294 The Five Laws Of Stupidity

"Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake." Carlo Cipolla In the 1970s, an economic historian called Carlo Cipolla wrote a provocative article titled "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity". This week's episode is about his theory of the destructiveness of stupid behaviour and why it is so underestimated and misunderstood. Show Notes: The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity by Carlo M. Cipolla The Five Universal Laws Of Stupidity by Corrine Purtill  

[@havz4444]

“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” - Bill Murray

[@ayampencen6363]

Maybe 2 both are the same..smart people will not argument with stupid person..if he do that, that mean ?? 😁

[@mishynaofficial]

Ob, so that's why I lost every argument in my life! Groundbreaking!

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

This is true. It seems that stupidity is highly contagious.

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

@@mishynaofficial ikr? 🤣

[@crashoppe]

this is how i win arguments with my wife. when she says,"why did you say/do/etc that!!!??? my answer is always, "just stupid i guess"

[@samppakoivula9977]

"The difference between being stupid and genius is that genius has its limits" - A. Einstein

[@spikespa5208]

Truer words never spoken.

[@Sienisota]

@@GeneralPatton88 You get enough stupid people together, and they will kill everyone, not just themselves. We have nuclear weapons and deadly, easily spreading diseases in labs. No matter how intelligent people come, they can't MAKE stupid people to not be stupid. Intelligent can do damage control, and lessen the chances of stupid people killing everyone... But they can never predict where the next stupid idea comes, and how fast it spreads and people rally behind it. It is a constant struggle, because stupid people are killing everyone, while intelligent people are trying to make life better as well, not just babysit stupid from burning the house down.

[@oa5538]

I love einstein

[@ltmundy1164]

Only 2 infinites: The universe. Stupid people. And I'm not certain about the universe. Einstein

[@whipwelder3417]

Okay good for you. You quoted Einstein, your definentally on another plane of intellect.

[@jayneliberty3429]

I loved it when Homer Simpson said, "Why does the stuff that happens to stupid people keep happening to me?".

[@dmvmeu7140]

lolll

[@cinthyasalas2360]

🤣

[@omargerardolopez3294]

Bruh 💀

[@colorzaddiction]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Sillytake1705]

I loved it when Morbius said, “It’s Morbin time!” and morbed right in front of the audience’s eyes.

[@rileyconklin145]

I find this idea of stupidity to be incredibly usefull because it’s practical, somewhat measurable, and it turns stupidity and intelligence into a fluid concept. Stupid people can become intelligent, and intelligent people can become stupid depending on both circumstance and personal choices.

[@coreyfinn5532]

You haven't met a stupid person yet then as I have and I can tell you its less likely that the class idiot is intelligent but just hasn't been engaged while its more likely the class idiot is just that. An idiot who has had the chance to learn but hasn't. Listen I live with one and the only reason I saw this comment was because he showered at 1AM not knowing it'd wake me up as while the walls may be paper thin how could I possibly hear him showering with the door to the hotpress (where the loud af pump is installed) open. You can have an intelligent person with little knowledge and a stupid person with the same knowledge all else being equal the intelligent person will beat the stupid person in becoming a better person every time.

[@johnrborges2363]

I see it every night at 6:30 News.

[@RS-nc2yn]

*useful

[@MadScientist267]

Sorry but stupid cannot be turned into intelligent. This is like claiming you can win a formula 1 race with a moped. It doesn't matter how hard you try, it simply isn't going to happen.

[@johnmichel4865]

@@MadScientist267 Yes, this. It seems endemic to conflate intelligence and knowledgeability.

[@daveerwin115]

Having laboured as a social worker for 17 years I can agree with his definition of stupid people. Social stupidity is much more prevalent than most would believe. Correctly stated the stupid cannot be taught or learn from their errors.

[@jhart63]

I’m sure you seen an equal level of stupidity amongst peers, and clients.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

Yeah… you missed the core argument of the article. Which, uhh… doesn’t make you sound terribly intelligent.

[@earlmace]

So, in the words of Ron White, "You can't fix stupid".

[@fredderf3152]

I wonder about those people who follow certain politicians or religious leaders like a cult.

[@DanEBoyd]

@@fredderf3152 Or network newz broadcasts.

[@gautamgairola4465]

The scary thing about stupid people is how sure they are of their decisions and preconceived notions. Intelligence to some extent abets stupidity because of the capability to rationalize their actions.

[@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars]

Rule #00: don't assume that someone posting a video about stupidity is too clever to avoid an obvious mistake :-) You have to add "Benefits to others" at the top of the vertical axis and "Losses to others" at the bottom for this to make sense.

[@merrywalsh2809]

Oh snap. Now it makes sense. Thank you, intelligent person.

[@Sar-ahG]

Thank you!!

[@DustyHoney]

I’m pretty sure the image is just zoomed in on, not an original image.

[@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars]

@@DustyHoney Yes I thought so too. But it's the only one available to illustrate the concept... so showing both axes correctly is still important in making sense of it.

[@FrostGiant91]

I thought everyone who listen to the video can easily figure out what the other axis mean without... Oh... Right...

[@dienekes4364]

One thing that needs to be clarified: When the term "profit" is used, it doesn't necessarily mean monetary gains. There are multiple kinds of currency: money is one, but time is also a currency, as are relationships and knowledge. If person A helps person B build something without being paid, they could still be gaining knowledge and expertise as well as building a relationship that could pay off in the future. Despite not enjoying a monetary gain, person A still may have profited in other ways, perhaps even more than if they had been paid for the work.

[@re-lmayer2546]

subjective and objective gains

[@richardhawkins2248]

I've discovered often that ego is a currency all on its own. When I see an overinflated ego it is often a sign of trouble to come.

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

All that glitters is not gold.

[@dienekes4364]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower I never thought of applying that saying to something like this. That's kind of brilliant! ;-)

[@richardhawkins2248]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower All that stinks is not poop!

[@Emeralds60601]

Something that really throws a wrench in this theory are external factors that influence someone's decisions, such as love, addiction, and strong emotions such as temperament. The example I thought of was that of Tsar Nicholas (the last one before the USSR) and his relation to Rasputin. Because nowadays we can see that keeping him around was a stupid decision because Rasputin was hurting Nicholas's reputation and rasputins reputation was indirectly hurting other people as well, but when you peek behind the curtain and learn it was because his son had terrible injuries that Rasputin helped both his son and his wife deal with then he suddenly becomes helpless, and so then he is hurting himself but simultaneously helping and hurting people, and from his point of view it wasn't because he was stupid it was because it was his son, yet we can see now that it would've been better long term if he disconnected with Rasputin. Something else to think about.

[@oliveoil7642]

Tragedy 🎭 ! It appeared in retrospect this last czar had dark and evil forces all around him even though he was one of the more empathetic and kind of the Romanov rulers. He loved his wife and family deeply which could have effected his judgement. He was ill prepared to rule much like his cousin George the VI whose life unfolded differently. He lived like many rulers do even today in a bubble oblivious to the forces around him) There were many Russians loyal to the czar but evil and dark forces descended upon Russia ( predictions of Fatima) if you believe in destiny it would not have mattered what he chose history or destiny were unfolding. Perhaps forces of ancestral karma ?

[@SSDD34687]

Its all hormones. Trust me. I had a patuitary issue that caused me to start understanding, spelling and reciting medical terminology, that i had never studied. They believe perfectionist, are created thru cortisol levels. It changes thought patterns. I may have heard these words at some point in life. Drs can't really explain it yet. After fixing the tumor, it disappeared.

[@cyber__laymen]

Where is article link

[@Puzzledrev]

My Dad was in Intelligence all over the world in WWI. He was very good at playing stupid. He said that people open up to stupid people and love to explain things to them, or they ignore them and let things slip. My mother was a nurse, and my Dad had an appointment. The doctor went on to teach my father about how to get the best exchange for American money, since he was going to Europe. Dad nodded. My mother tried not to laugh because my DAD was the head foreign exchange officer at his bank. The doctor asked why he didn't say anything. Mom said, "Well, he got you talking, didn't he?" Our family motto should have been, "Stupid always wins."

[@travisearnest9809]

You win.

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Why are there so many different types of stupid people in intelligence today? Has it always been that way? Obviously it’s a funny question bc they’re in “intelligence”, but it’s also concerning bc like this article says, stupid people are dangerous. Maybe that’s why the nation is falling apart and our foreign policy is so destructive and belligerent.

[@liljafamilyaccount7306]

Your father was a dishonest man.

[@secretcircusofficial]

but what did he gain from that conversation?

[@chrisgraham2904]

The old television series of Detective Columbo was a great lesson of the buffoon outwitting the seemingly intelligent. The disheveled looking looking detective that appeared to be dimwitted, who was always underestimated by the intelligent master criminal, who thought they had pulled off the perfect crime. Of course, Columbo always got his man.

[@ndnr8]

“When you’re dead, you don’t know it. The pain is felt by those around you. The same is true for stupid people.”

[@Scott-got-caught]

😂👍🏼

[@Zooral45]

Brilliant 🤣

[@lilyvonbulo9636]

Well said!

[@ndnr8]

@@DMillerFlorida fascinating, …but were they actually dead or displaced? Conscious thought and awareness along with the memory of the event suggests that while the physical body may have ceased functioning, their spirit/soul/essence was alive and had intent to return to the body. Since they did not remain in that state, they did not die (cease to exist). I would prefer to believe that we are aware after we leave the body, and that we continue to exist in a different manner, so thanks for sharing those examples.

[@d.e.b.b5788]

@@DMillerFlorida The fear of death will cause all sorts of delusions among those who are afraid to die. Consider; all those who will tell you that they are sure that they are going to heaven, yet are terrified of dying. Why? You'd think they're eager to go to such a paradise. But no, they're not, because they actually know that they've done terrible things, so they fear going to hell. So they make up all sorts of fantasies, in order to pretend that they don't actually die, and those are what they are telling you about when they come close to dying.

[@farazsm2013]

“One stupid person throws a stone down a well, a hundred intellects cannot bring it back up”. Persian Proverb

[@kewakl8891]

If this happens enough, you no longer have a well!

[@goldgeologist5320]

@@kewakl8891 no you still have a well full of rocks. I just no longer contains much water for you to drop a bucket into to get water.

[@cicali]

@@goldgeologist5320 a stupefied well :)

[@stevetheduck1425]

Enough stupid people then, can undo all that anyone has ever built. Simply by accident or impulse. I recall someone who had to be physically restrained every time he saw something pretty and breakable, such as a vase, or a stained-glass window. Stupid by the above tests' measure. - and stupid even by his own, because when away from anything he could easily break, he did not try to destroy beauty. It was also the first impulse, because if you could get him to look away and talk to someone, he could control himself. He did once start digging into a cliff-top right at his feet because he could see white cliffs nearby, though. Definitely self-destructive as well, as he could not see the danger.

[@kewakl8891]

@@goldgeologist5320 Reminds me of the joke question: How much dirt is in a 1 cubic meter hole?

[@philleprechaun6240]

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams, "Mostly Harmless"

[@Andrewcranky]

When I was in the Navy, my Department head had a sign on the wall. Fool Proof is not a challenge.

[@just1luckyguy229]

"You design the item, god designs the fools. And hes a hell of a good designer"

[@khanyosontange4634]

lmao

[@ethribin4188]

One of my favourit quotes

[@rebeccacummings6697]

Oh yes, bird-feeders and squirrels

[@DYH00000]

I'm busy so here is a short list for those who don't want to watch the full video: Law 1: Everyone always and inevitably underestimates the number of stupid people in circulation Law 2: The probability that a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person. Law 3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or group of people when he or she does not benefit and may even suffer losses. Law 4: Non-stupid people always underestimate the destructive power of stupid individuals. Law 5: A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

[@lindyinclusive8163]

Thank you!!❤❤❤

[@hana.s.5203]

I was always almost sure that stupid person are the most evil and dangerous, until the covid and the pro-vaccin shows up, so there 100% cofirmed my theory

[@Dude0000]

I never knew I had so much power.

[@lindyinclusive8163]

@@Dude0000 of course you do!! After all there’s no one like you so yes you have power!

[@mirailieva8849]

@@Dude0000, this is funny. Yes, the most stupid ones are the most dangerous. There are tons of dangerous people. Too many dangerous people very sadly.

[@davidrichardson6749]

I asked a shop teacher I had in high school once. “What’s worse to deal with, troublemakers or idiots?” And he said “idiots, because you can get rid of the troublemakers”.

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

This reminds me of my high school German teacher when I went back post graduation to talk to him. He said students are just getting "bigger and dumber" lol

[@VulpesChama]

Which makes the teacher kind of stupid, as you don't get rid of troublemakers, you try to make them use their ressources as "troublemakers" in school tend to be those with pro-active potential that can be harnessed if handled correctly. Which is by definition the job of the teacher.

[@DerKiesch]

@@VulpesChama And which is a great method of getting rid of troublemakers.

[@VulpesChama]

@@DerKiesch I don't know... do your job as teacher? Maybe get professional support that is trained to deal with emotional and possibly family and/or other social problems and is trained and capable in offering support in various areas for all, teacher, student, parent? As said, a teacher is paid to do a job, so she/he should do it and not just kick everyone out that doesn't seem to fit. If that's what you do, you are unfit as teacher. Oh, yes, that requires work and effort. I know that. But that's what teachers are paid for. And as said, with what they are unable to deal themselves, they can seek help and support for this. Or not, if they live in a country with shabby scrappy school system. There is no general way to deal with troublemakers, your question is as simple as it is redundant. Each and everyone is an individual with individual problems causing individual problems. To know how to deal with a specific "troublemaker" you have to know the specific "troublemaker" and have to work from there. And yes, it can be done. But those teachers who want to, often don't get the time from their superiors and the rest does not care for the general student. That's why more civilized countries with tiny bit better school systems are hiring additional personnel for those kinds of jobs. Giving up before trying is likely the first level of stupidity.

[@whodafox]

@@VulpesChama Don't think u get what DerKiesch was saying, they meant changing and teaching a troublemaker to use their abilities positively, is in fact a way of "removing troublemakers."

[@kurtiskurzmann7642]

Three things: 1. There's always someone smarter than you. 2. Intelligence and education are two different things. 3. The smartest person in the room isn't always right.

[@MM-vs2et]

The first and the third is a paradox btw. What happens if you are the smartest person in the room? That can't be true because there is always someone smarter than you. So then someone else is smarter than you in the room. But then the smartest person in the room isn't always right. So there is a chance that you are the smartest person in the room? Maybe you are the smartest person in the room. Then it repeats. Edit: You mfs took this too seriously lmao

[@TimeattackGD]

@@MM-vs2et 3. being smart is not equal being right

[@kurtiskurzmann7642]

@@MM-vs2et Haha! Good one. I saw this coming but didn't think anyone would pick up on it. This might be akin to Russel's paradox and I think I defeat it by using the axiom of comprehension in set theory. Iow, "the room" in #3 is a subset of the (assumed) "general population" in #1. But that still leaves a paradox in #1. Here, I can do one of three things: 1a. Appeal to #!1 being a simple generalization and not axiomatic. 1b. Appeal to #1 being an aphorism. 1c. Appeal to an exemption outside the natural human realm in the form of a Greatest Maximum Being.

[@curlylouis9258]

Someone in this thread didn't get the point of the video nor the comment they are replying to...

[@mycoffeequest6634]

It's not a paradox. "What happens if you are the smartest person IN THE ROOM." Just because you're the smartest person in a room doesn't mean there isn't someone smarter than you outside of the room. You can have a room full of idiots and the smartest person there will still be an idiot. The logic still follows. Unless you put the smartest person in the room. Maybe then it would be a paradox since everyone inside and outside of it is not as smart as they are. Actually, it still wouldn't be a paradox because for everyone who isn't the smartest person in the world, they would still have someone smarter than they are. The only person this doesn't apply to is the smartest person themselves. It's not as much a paradox as it is a subjective "truth" (if you can call it that) which changes depending on who it is applied to. Maybe then it's just easier to imagine the Earth as that room.

[@kyndread71]

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -- Mark Twain

[@neosrdjan671]

They are NOT people, in the FIRST PLACE...as strange as it CAN BE

[@gibraltar0553]

Well stupid is such a multi faceted word. I would say the are quite smart and organised. You could argue their backwards believes are stupid. You know, thinking of being superior than others and so claiming the right to controlling them.

[@kyndread71]

@@gibraltar0553 So is "stupidity" subjective? Interesting point of view. (that isn't snark -- your comment really has me thinking right now)

[@holdenrobbins852]

I suspect its a bit of both. Smart people doing the right things while pretending to be stupid, so they don't raise the ire of the the stupid people, especially not the stupid people who think they are smart. ie. Intelligence agencies aren't generally going to stand up and announce everything they know... instead US policy looks like a bunch of plausibly deniable bumbling that somehow always works out in the US (and generally speaking, the rest of the world's) favor in the long run. They're clearly not going to pass up using the cover of actual stupid people being destructive stupid people to get it done either.

[@neosrdjan671]

@@gibraltar0553 I would really appreciate if you would analize my sentence and explain where did you read those judgements you put on me. If you have time and energy, please do. I would be really Grateful. Really. I am not kidding. I like to see ALL what others SEE in me.. I like to HEAL myself, in every aspect. So, Why this sentence provoke such answer from you? If you have not time for that, I would understand. Thank you. P.S. Did you ever read/ watch something from David Icke? (that is the basis WHY I put that sentence in my comment)

[@batteredwife]

This classification helps so much in explaining the behaviour of narcissists or abusive spouses / partners. I would constantly wonder why my husband was actively destroying our family and our financial security / future. I would keep trying to explain things to him, and wonder why he wasn't getting it. This perspective suddenly makes it so clear to me. He had no agenda of destroying the family or our finances. He actually had no agenda at all. He seemed to be acting on autopilot, without any apparent design or plan. And refusing help such as counseling. I would keep trying to understand him and his perspective. But now, with this explanation, I can see so clearly - he had no agenda or plan. He is just plain stupid - actively causing harm to himself, his spouse, and his children - without really intending to. Thank you for this new perspective!

[@lewiskarani]

Holy shit, it's as if your reading my mind. Had a similar experience with a certain stupid lady

[@calderarecords]

At what point does a person become sentient I wonder? My father did the same, but it turns out that he was sent to boarding school which felt like betrayal by his parents, & this feeling of rejection & background rage meant that he could never manifest love, empathy & consideration in adulthood as a result of unacknowledged childhood trauma. I disagree with referring to people who we misunderstand as "stupid" though. They have become intransigent. And it is easy to see why, when they have never had trust or security in their lives from the people we are most dependent upon. Your partner for instance. He may be aware of what he was doing, but he really did not know how to modify his behavior without admitting to himself that he needs help. What was required of him was beyond the abilities he was given. Put it this way, if tomorrow you had to act & conduct yourself as a bigot would, to kill, torture & revel in misery, you would struggle to suddenly invert! It may not feel natural for you. Many children feel ill-equipped to adhere to a pleasant society - if all they have been taught is hatred. Does this make sense? 😇

[@batteredwife]

@@calderarecords Thank you for your reply. I get what you are saying. I put efforts to learn about his background, and got us an appointment with a counsellor for professional help - so that we could navigate this. But he refused to go. And later, when I tried to leave because life with him was more than I could handle, he bullied me into staying. No matter what, it is not right to force somebody to live with you. He is a violent and unpredictable person. I did look at his approach with compassion and empathy, but what he did to us is not okay.

[@calderarecords]

@@batteredwife You took the correct course of action. Many people don't want help because they fear change. And learning can be a painful experience of discovering what you have put people through. I also suspect that if we had the freedom to live where we want, how we want, & with who we want.. we would have little stress at all! 🥰 After all, I cannot in any degree, disagree with your statement about being forced to live with someone. Yet Wed-lock does precisely that. The further you look back, the less rights woman had to define the meaning of her own existence. Humanity must re-examine all these daft traditions, economics & values & we must build a better civilisation. 😉🌎 _"The only difference between a saint and a serial killer is environment. That's a very hard thing to accept because that raises a lot of questions"_ ~ *J. Fresco*

[@freezingcathedral]

you married an npc.

[@roberthastings5550]

“Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.” - Margaret Atwood

[@alexfagnan7469]

Omg…brilliant!!!!! I completely agree.

[@milenacukic]

Margaret Atwood, brilliant as ever

[@JaysonT1]

Believing in evil is the first sign of stupid.

[@JaysonT1]

@@zara-of2zw He was a guy that did a bunch of things.

[@JaysonT1]

@@zara-of2zw I saw a lion slaughter a bunch of gazelle. It was must be evil.

[@dieminervaeule]

"If at a certain age you don't realize that you're surrounded by idiots, you don't realize it for a certain reason" (Curt Goetz)

[@emmanueljoseph994]

Nice

[@billcape9405]

A corollary to this idea, and an extrapolation of the poker table rule, is that if you look around the room and can't tell who the stupid person is.... guess what?

[@Scott-got-caught]

What about the theory: 'you don't know what you don't know'

[@malow8755]

Disagree. Some people choose their surrounding wisely. Not every circle is a stupid circle.

[@Tovek]

I rather like surrounding myself with idiots. They are easy to manipulate.

[@tripzville7569]

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" - George Carlin . The current mess Humanity is in now, proves that beyond a doubt.

[@rizzamaeong]

Reminds me of the scamdemic. Where smart qualified doctors are censored in the media and the experimental injection fooled victims are swept under the rug.

[@tripzville7569]

@@rizzamaeong Exactly. Stupidity and cowardice , that is the real pandemic.

[@BoratVoiceMyWife]

Lol like politicians

[@R0bertRodriguez]

The current mess? Sorry to say but It's always been this way.

[@cartoonhanks1708]

Pot calling kettle black

[@JohnSmith-tx3ys]

I took in a friend who needed a place to stay. He was making a lot of money so I told him up front what I wanted for rent and food. He agreed. Keep in mind, this guy is brilliant. He worked for space X and a lot of different tech companies. Instead of paying rent, he gave all his money to catfish scams. I gave him a break and told him that the next time he gets money, he has to pay me first. Sure enough, he got paid and gave it to grifters. I kicked him out. He got so mad that he began manipulating me to give him money. As a result, I blocked him and will never speak to him again. We were friends since high school. I never understood how someone so smart could be so stupid.

[@TheCenteroftheUniverse]

One word: Narcissism. Once he couldn't manipulate you into doing anything USEFUL to he, he dried up and blew away.

[@NathanaelNaused]

I'm glad you differentiated between his intelligence and his decision making

[@SanjayFGeorge]

Sadly you are not the only one with this experience. I've had such people in my life too

[@UHFStation1]

Could his memory be bad or he simply has risk taking behaviors like a psychopath or bipolar?

[@JohnSmith-tx3ys]

@@UHFStation1 I don’t know. But I know he bought a new iPhone for one of the fake women he met online when he was supposed to be paying me for rent and groceries. He was definitely delusional.

[@stephenshoihet2590]

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" - George Carlin

[@williamedwards3832]

Blm

[@slappy8941]

We call that "democracy".

[@AviLOrkQ]

@@slappy8941 Socrates was right about democracy

[@AlexWBKK]

yes, we see the outcome of that very good in these times.

[@ramanrao3290]

Really bro

[@LucyLvgd]

A quick summary 1. Everyone underestimates the number of stupid people 2. The probability that a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic 3. A stupid person causes loses to others without gains to themselves (consistently) 4. Non stupid people underestimates the danger of the stupid 5. Stupid people are the most dangerous people

[@ragnarok7976]

@@tafdiz No, he who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. The fact that most psychopaths are not shackled to normal human behaviour frees them to make beneficial personal moves that other people would not make. They actually tend to be more capable in a sense but this only benefit themselves. They are not stupid they are bandits.

[@TheCRAZYEYES1000]

@@ragnarok7976 Unless you're a stupid psychopath.

[@PJ-oe6eu]

@@ragnarok7976 You're right but that only applies to an intelligent psychopath. There are also plenty really unintelligent ones who while trying to pursue things to benefit themselves don't realise that the way they go about it either just fuck themselves/others over or what they try to achieve in the first place isn't actually going to benefit them in the end.

[@fersuremaybek7741]

without gains to anyone.

[@mattmieres]

@@ragnarok7976 Ever think you praise psychopaths too much? Also that's not true. Psychopaths have a lack of empathy which is associated with lower development in the prefrontal cortex. Them not being able to have those same shackles that you hate so much is why they get caught. Criminals, thieves, scammers. You talk about them like they're something to be lauded because youre an insecure little man

[@brotherpaulv]

I think the one big thing that my 52 years of experience has taught me thus far, is to never underestimate the stupidity of others. I'd rather underestimate their intelligence, and be pleasantly surprised if I get it wrong sometimes.

[@rachdarastrix5251]

Usually what happens is people underestimate my intelligence, and then they lose the battle. I actually don't know what it is like to win for another reason. I often wondered why. Then I thought to myself, "Would an intelligent person pick a fight with me in the first place?" Well I guess that's how some of us are handed our situations.

[@sptflcrw8583]

@@rachdarastrix5251 OK buddy, lol

[@morty7145]

@@sptflcrw8583 dont break his character

[@davidh9354]

@@rachdarastrix5251 **unsheaths katana** "Heh, so... you're challenging me then? Good luck with that." **pushes sunglasses up to brow** **tips front of fedora down** "Prepare yourself. I've never lost a fight." **thrusts katana in to the dirt in front of him** **performs complicated series of hand signs** "You don't even know it, but you've already lost. Pity. I would've enjoyed using my sword, but it seems you are not a challenging opponent." **slowly pulls katana out of the ground** **wipes off the dirt on the blade** **sheaths katana slowly, deliberately** **opponent falls dead, timed perfectly with the katana fully entering the sheath** "That'll teach you to challenge a master in the marketplace of ideas. Facts and logic are on *my* side this day." **onlooking crowd cheers** **applause**

[@rachdarastrix5251]

@@davidh9354 It's a pity you can't make this animated.

[@webstercat]

Never trust anyone who can’t admit to you they weren’t once wrong about an important issue. Knowing you can be & have been deceived is an important truth to be aware of.

[@johnphoenix1175]

Idiots are full of confidence and geniuses are filled with doubt.

[@guitarista67]

That's how the holocaust happened and that's what Trump is trying to do right now.

[@matthewguzda4075]

Thank you. I try to impress on my gf that tho she may hate her political opponents, to remember that this doesn't mean they're bad morally deficient ppl. They may simply be wrong or may have been fooled thru propaganda because we all have been fooled and or been wrong about things. I think it's pointless to demonize our opponents where it's better to understand them. I also try to get her to realize that one may really disagree politically but if they are a good neighbor, if they care for us and our family that that conviction and care matter more than ideologies as it's direct and effective action. Cheers

[@stokedmtb333]

@@matthewguzda4075 excellent point; I was fooled by political ideology until realizing the idiocy of it all. I watched good friends and family treat each other like enemies and I was just as guilty. The culture wars are designed as a huge grift simultaneously controlling the truly inept of society who relish in stupidity. It’s no wonder that it captures as many minds. I try to remember that EVERYONE believes they are fighting for the righteousness of their particular cause. People forget that a democracy works this way and should not be taken to hyperbole which is where media profits.

[@rodneydowney2561]

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then imagine that half the people are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

[@buddyroeginocchio9105]

Rater crude, but logical.

[@bdevenyn]

This is exactly the quote I thought of while listening to this

[@JohnDoe-vi1im]

And then think about your place in the intelligence hierarchy and feel superior to at least half of the population.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

I expect to see this about every 10th comment any time the topic of intelligence is posted. It is somewhat Pavlovian.

[@richardhawkins2248]

@@MariaMMCardoso I think it was Plato that said. Intelligent people learn from everyone and everything. Average people learn from their mistakes, but stupid people already have all of the answers.

[@G_Confalonieri]

"I fear nothing, except for the stupid people. They are a huge number, and they even vote". Facundo Cabral.

[@rogerlibby14613]

You will never OUT VOTE the stupid.

[@brianlane9534]

@@rogerlibby14613 The fall of America...

[@quester09]

hell, they're first in line.

[@tientlam1589]

💯🗽💐..😂..May I add the ### of votes in facts are the highest ##==>The winner of Stupidity 🏆to lead the entirety stupidity..Talks about 🔂🔄🔁..😆😅..

[@fisshbone]

Wouldn’t the act of voting imply that the person wishes to gain something fro their actions? That puts them more into the naïve (or maybe bandit depending on intent) category, right?

[@guanlong6699]

“Its hard to win an argument with a smart person, but its damn near impossible to win one with a stupid person” -IDK

[@hsharma3933]

You beat them with emotional arguments and every logical fallacy that exists in the book. It’s the only language stupid people understand. But doing that would also render you stupid…so it seems they would beat you with experience then after all… Guess you can’t beat them after all…huh…

[@maou3118]

I'd rather argue with an unintelligent person than with an intellectually dishonest person. You have a chance of making the stupid one understand, while the liar might understand, but won't ever admit she or he is wrong.

[@dawnzimmermann2958]

People who are too defensive to have a clear communication about a problem without becoming abusive cause untold harm to relationships and to themselves. I dont know why that concept is so difficult for people to understand

[@hsharma3933]

@@maou3118 well it’s the intellectually dishonest ones that lead the stupid

[@Novozymandiaz]

@@maou3118 Yeah, that's why I like to add to this quote: "It's absolutely impossible to win an argument against someone who thinks they're smart." You can't teach someone who thinks he already knows what you're trying to teach them. Most people are "stupid". It's normal. We're meant to know nothing.

[@trudilm3864]

After the last two years, this is proven beyond any shadow or shade of doubt.

[@stevereedatx]

This is hilarious, enlightening, and terrifying all at once.

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

damn, man, you just described my life!

[@chrisbuesnell3428]

It's not hilarious at all

[@H-Man1]

@@chrisbuesnell3428 14:06

[@spfein]

@@chrisbuesnell3428 weed helps one tolerate it but barely these days

[@thomasrusso8323]

What a inlightnment.i mean that ,you have open my eyes wide open.it is one of the most . beautiful , explain.statment.i always thought that stuiped.was just a word.now I understand just what.i have been feeling.well done.well done.

[@GayleenFroese]

In uni, I played cards with a bunch of people on the regular and we got pretty good. One day, someone who was new to the game and bad at cards in general joined us. We thought it would be easy to win against someone like that but the game that followed was a huge life lesson. She was a disruptor. We assumed her actions had meaning. We read into her choices and made our own choices based on that--"She must have a high trump left if she'd play that card, so I need to play this card." But her plays were largely random and she created chaos. No one had a good game. That was the day I learned that people who don't know what they're doing can upset a whole situation, no matter how many people who do have their shit together are in the mix. In some ways, the more everyone else does know what they're doing, the worse it is, because a group of competent people is used to being able to read and work off of each other's signals. I also learned that, if you think someone you work with is playing multi-level Star Trek chess because you can't figure out their strategy, you need to stop and ask yourself whether they are just a shitty card player.

[@pinchebruha405]

And that’s why Yang said people 1k a month… to get the stupid people to stay tf out of the workforce, because they are responsible for so so so much loss to begin with!

[@b.aaa.d624]

Same goes for chess

[@wildonez3076]

Wow! That's a deep analysis. This could be a study

[@_yuri]

pov you still salty about a game you lost

[@b.aaa.d624]

@@_yuri lol this is true😂

[@johncruz9793]

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Grey's law: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

[@purpurina5663]

Grey's Law is why at least in the Continental Law (Roman, French) systems gross negligence is equated to willful misconduct. Basically the law is saying you simply can't be that dumb.

[@purplepheasant4776]

Studipidity is the new violence. Stupidity is a cancer.

[@nozrep]

hmmmmm methinks… a conflictional paradox of philosophical thingamajigs in these two “laws”. My mind is blown. I cannot comprehend it!😂🤪😤🤓 So then… uhhh… what is the solution?

[@purplepheasant4776]

@nozrep There is no solution. It is paradoxical. Being stupid is a choice and a consequence of not choosing to be intelligent. Sadly, there are ppl in the world that love nothing more than for others to think for them, which opens them up to all kinds of negative influences. If you try to reason with or help these people they turn on you. Nope, no solutions.

[@SotiCoto]

The unfortunate irony is that you can, in theory, convince a malicious person to stop whatever harm they're causing... but someone who causes harm without even acknowledging they're doing so can be near impossible to stop. As such, malice is much more forgivable.

[@JohnSmith-yc6uv]

I'm very curious to hear from someone who thinks stupid people are very dangerous, and yet also thinks that everyone should have the right to vote.

[@franzherger2377]

Mark Twain: „Never argue with stupid People, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.“

[@richardprice9730]

TOP MARKS :Exactly that's why I'm NOT bothering anymore capiche ...

[@derealized797]

The worst thing is stupid people who think that they're smart, that's what leads to problems, especially when it's stupid people in large numbers. The dumb ones who are aware of what they are, are usually funny because of it.

[@pulsaran]

George Orwell : ,,There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual can believe them."

[@codymacaulay1435]

@Derealized This is known as the Dunning Kruger effect.

[@peterplotts1238]

I ran across that quote yesterday. Dostoyevsky said the same thing - in Russian, but without also being funny.

[@hollowdog9049]

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” ― George Carlin

[@schwarzwolfram7925]

"... stupid people in large groups"; We call that government.

[@ladasodaexplains3355]

George Carlin is too smart for all of us normies

[@mayurchavhan8590]

That's called religion.

[@CheriBerry1]

Amen and at this point i want off this planet. I cant stand dealing with stupid people.

[@DrozGodhammer]

@John Court or how about the democrats that voted for potato joe, and cackling kamala, and turned your country into a steaming plie of shit, fail, misery, wokeness, and massive inflation?! I mean those cancerous, ingrates calls the very people trying to Make their own country America Great Again, stupid and dangerous?! you call people wanting to make your country great again extremists, and worship a bumbling old sack of fail that opened your borders to illegal immigrants, human traffickers, and drug cartels, humiliated his own country's military might by staging the Afghan debacle and promoting the woke military, waged war upon your own culture by promoting woke feminism, trans-rights abuses, gender ideologies, child gay grooming, race baiting, cancelling religion? you prefer an old, worn-out senile communist puppet, that jeopardized the very safety of his constituents by defunding the police, promote terroirsts like antifa and BLM, hiring soft-on-crime judges and prosecutors funded by a communist megalomaniac called george soros; almost deleted your constitutional right to defend yourselves by amending gun laws which, will affect only the law abiding citizens and not the criminals? and what about the inflation you are currently suffering right now?! potato joe was willing to give away 4 billion in aid of ukraine for a war they brought upon themselves by following potato joe's advice to join NATO, a woke organization that will threaten Russia's security by planting missile bases in Russia's backyard?! while back home, mothers are struggling to find baby formula to feed their children!!! the list can go on, and just to remind you... DEMOCRATS, HATING MAGA AND VOTED FOR KAMALA AND POTATO ARE TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS!!! NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN LARGE GROUPS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE WOKE!!!

[@dennisdecarlo3569]

Einstein, when asked the difference between Genius and Stupidity said “Genius has its limits”.

[@JaysonT1]

I bet that's a false quote.

[@akashalicinia4942]

Wrong geniuses have no limits... unlimited .. infinite ..unchained ... stupid people are limited .. they live in a box ... unable to connect to their higher spirit self ..their true self ..their all knowing self ... Because they are so limited and stupid ..they foolishly destroy themselves and others .. because they are rigid... fixed and unwilling to learn and grow ..they are delusional ..and believe they know everything ... When in reality they know nothing ...

[@draconite7515]

@Kahn Phusion indeed we have

[@skiptomile]

We get it akasha no need to elaborate..we get it

[@akashalicinia4942]

@@skiptomile I could do with the hell I want to do who the hell are you to try to control how much wisdom I give you need to shut up ..and mind your business idiot .....

[@lucamariti8458]

(I apologize for my bad English😅) When I was in middle school, my math teacher here in Italy gifted me this book by Carlo Maria Cipolla entitled “Allegro, ma non troppo: le leggi fondamentali della stupidità umana” (i.e.”Cheerful, but not too much: the basic laws of human stupidity). It included a first part where Cipolla mocked the economic and social history of the medieval times that connected with the second part about what you exposed in the video: the foundations of human stupidity. It is essentially a parody of the human behavior, though it can be expressed with rigorous mathematical laws because humans have always been intelligent and stupid through the history. A book that is pretty funny on how exposes in such an analytic way of speaking something so distant from an empiric, universal law that can define a person’s behavior in the society. Cipolla in the last pages of the book even leaves you some graphs and tells you to see how a person next to you behaves! You fulfill the graphic with the informations of the person, like name, behavior, actions, and after some calculations, you can put the person in one of the 4 dials of the graphic and see if, for example a friend, is stupid, intelligent, helpless or a bandit! It is such a funny book(that I recommend to everyone: it’s only 70 pages long), but with a bitter sweet taste. After 8 years, thanks to your video, I read again the book and I laughed so hard at some points: you remembered me of the old memories of my old school, friends and of my math teacher. I thank you! If someone wanted more information about the book or Cipolla, be free to ask…I hope that I can help…there are much more informations here in Italy of him and his works!

[@enriquesanchez2001]

👍 GRAZIE ♥

[@felipealfaro9389]

Nice review, i find it funny how at first you apologize for your english, but still happen to have better writting and ortography than many native speakers (btw english isnt my first language as well)

[@carloduroni5629]

Not "Maria". The "M." was just a joke by Cipolla.

[@robertcounts5300]

when you said "the foundations of human stupidity." you are right it is just the foundation, then one can go in any direction from there, i will see if i can find this book and enjoy it like you have done! thank you sir!

[@nick11crafter]

Hanlon's Razor: Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity Seems like a fitting place to drop this

[@bereal6590]

Yup like this 😊

[@matthewn2559]

Evil and Stupid are first cousins. Evil by it's very nature is stupid because Evil ends up imploding upon itself. One need look no further than Nazi Germany or the continual rise and fall of evil dictatorships in the Middle East.

[@lashlarue7924]

I never knew this had been codified! I reference this dynamic all the time, now I have a way to encapsulate the learnèd, “received wisdom”… Thanks!

[@greygrey4]

Do not attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by an ebb in the up-and-down of consciousness.

[@NeverForget1776]

Smiths Disposable Razor: do not write off with catchy razors that which you prefer to believe is not possible because the reverse is to frightening to believe

[@stephenclark5812]

The wisest thing I was ever told: "Never underestimate the stupidity of a human being".

[@reburdoc4647]

Said the dog to the cat

[@michaelfuria4257]

Frank Zappa, when asked what is the most common element in the universe, said "stupidity".

[@ryanrivard1455]

Never underestimate the stupidity of a human being including myself

[@johnnysalter7072]

We always underestimate it.

[@paulbrower3297]

Stupid people think that they are clever enough to get away with what they do. Just think of the vicarious delights many people had with Dillinger and the Barrow-Parker gang in the 1930's. The criminals all met bad ends.

[@samsolomon6152]

This is so true. Think about how many famous people you know that just because they're good in one thing (like making music), they then go and shoot their mouths off and reveal themselves to be dumb, showing that they do not actually understand the issue fully. I think it stems from the fact we tend to view intelligence linearly. If someone has a good IQ score or talented, we assume that's it, that they'll be smarter in everything, more moral, more shrewd, more literary etc. and it just isn't the case. We want to think we understand the formula and have simplified it. But we obviously haven't. Most probably because like most things in life, we assume things, take them for granted and haven't stopped to think things through properly, as this video shows.

[@combatepistemologist8382]

Nobel Prize winner William Shockley. Co-inventor of the transistor at Bell Labs, but also a white supremacist and eugenics proponent.

[@rimshot6444]

When a was a little boy my father R.I.P explained to me a most valuable lesson, if you put 3 persons on a boat, one is good, the second is evil and the third is stupid then: the good one will row a boat forward, the evil one row a boat backward and the stupid one will sink the boat.

[@TimeSurfer206]

My cousin, at 14, walked up to our grandfather and I and announced, like he was the first to ever have the revelation, that, "People are STUPID!" And walked away with a smirk. I looked at Grandpa, and said, "That poor fool just forgot he was people, didn't he?" And Grandpa said, "Yup. I worry about that boy." He was wise to. My Cousin spent the majority of his adult life with "Department of Corrections" as his address.

[@clevertaco328]

@@TimeSurfer206 great lesson 😂🤣

[@RobertSeviour1]

@@TimeSurfer206 "walked up to our grandfather and I" - it's not "I" here, it should be "me" in correct English. This is a common fault and I fight a lonely compaign against it.

[@TimeSurfer206]

@@RobertSeviour1 "Me'n my Grandpa..." My Grandpa wasn't mean.

[@ronaldholmes8525]

The stupid one won't even know he's on a boat...He'll think his waterbed sprung a leak.

[@gc2696]

You can't fix stupid......ESPECIALLY if they're in charge.

[@darkone9572]

Always are ! Thats the kind makes good bosses !!

[@gc2696]

@@darkone9572 " Dilbert " reader ?😅

[@dragonfly1929]

SPECIALLY IF THEY ARE PART OF YOUR GOVERNMENT ,AND MAKE THE LOWS.

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

Can now 💉

[@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting]

Yes you can! You just need rope. Lotsa rope .... and torches and pitchforks!

[@lomax343]

When you die, you won't know you're dead, but it will be obvious to everyone else. The same applies if you're stupid.

[@InanisNihil]

lmao im ded 😂

[@SchoolforHackers]

💀💀💀

[@skywalker847]

Actually, U may be dead to others, but you're just fee of their physical prison.

[@PhilLesh69]

So is that what my computer thinks when I unplug it and disconnect the hard drive? It's free from their physical prison?

[@user-fb2jb3gz1d]

Trumpers are the very example of that

[@madstork91]

On a long enough timeline, there is no difference between stupidity, malice, and apathy.

[@bitcoin.crypto]

"You know, I often tremble when it's apparent that I've accidentally confused a stupid person. Stupid people have been known to kill what they don't understand." - Jason Daniel Chaplin

[@stevetheduck1425]

Ignorance = fear = killing = the creation, maintenance and destruction of an underclass so as not to confront reality.

[@nicklevi5537]

Stupid ppl (literally) also the least to have suicidal thoughts. Act more like animals. Instinct have big portion in their lives. Thus the kill.

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

And if you should be in a "concealed-carry" state...

[@bryanchandler3486]

@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry this is why I don't support gun control but do support gun regulation ie, I think most people should be allowed to own most guns, but also that they should be required to take safety classes and lose that right if they commit domestic violence, general sensible stuff like that, as long as it isn't enforced in a way that's racist or classist ie a marijuana conviction keeps you from having a gun for example that's bullshit and is going to hurt mostly poorer people and people of color.

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

@@bryanchandler3486 That's pretty much what we have in Canada, though some people with weed convictions prior to legalization still get the shaft, I'm told, as no general pardon has been granted. It also keeps them from crossing the US border. But if you apply for a pardon you can usually get it IF there are no other convictions beyond simple possession.

[@marvwatkins7029]

Dealing with the public daily in my work for decades confirms his laws. Even well educated people can be stupid. He is a man of my heart and soul.

[@camilafilosafia333]

Please, stupid in what sense?

[@Dan_Kanerva]

@@camilafilosafia333 stupid as in laking common sense... Like that psychologist with PHD that said kids at the age of 6 should be able to decide if they want a change of sex

[@ericapaquette9624]

I see alot of book smart but common sense dumb...just like the video guy said so what are they bandits or truly stupid people.

[@Someone-ft5lw]

@@camilafilosafia333 Decision making Choice of words

[@remoevans7847]

@@camilafilosafia333 Following simple instructions!

[@_..-.._..-.._]

8:55 “Stupid people are the most dangerous people on the planet” In all my life, I’ve never heard my feelings summed up so concisely and eloquently ❤️

[@thedoranwilliamsshow6863]

People who worship Covid19, masks, vaccines, job loss, Communism, and hate for their own country are stupid. They are hurting the rest of us by complying like 1940's trained Nazis. Plus they are hurting themselves because when you choose to take away people's rights and freedoms, then your rights and freedoms are the next to get taken.

[@peterobbo7512]

I wouldn't call Putin stupid.

[@painkillerjones6232]

@@peterobbo7512 I'd call Biden ignorant, and I mean before the Dementia...

[@danahansen5427]

@@peterobbo7512 remember, intelligent people can be stupid. In light of this article, I'm tending to see him more as a 'bandit'.

[@danahansen5427]

The truism of: "You can't fix 'STUPID'." jumped out at me midway through his discussion. Myself, I've used the phrase 'willfully stupid' for the people who turn a blind eye on the train wreck they're heading for.

[@benttranberg2690]

This was actually not news to me, is what I realized after watching half the video. It falls perfectly into my own experiences and the patterns of defense mechanisms I have put up throughout my life. I didn't expect that.

[@fullclipaudio]

The US Army is famous for this. Hear me out. If you have a stupid person in your squad, platoon, or company then the easiest way to rid yourself of the stupid person was to promote them as the promoted person would be sent off and put in charge of something. Now, this really worked in the short term but, as you can imagine, had horrific longterm consequences. For example, the Sergeant that you just promoted to Staff Sergeant might be sent over to Headquarters where they are now in charge of the rations that will feed you during training exercises. As a matter of fact, the Army did everything possible to promote a person into a position where they were least effective. It was amazing to watch. Here is the kind of damage they could do: One day I'm walking past the quad and I notice several sections outside attacking their gear with knives and hatchets. My section sergeant sees me and calls me over and tells me to "destroy your equipment so we can turn it in and get new stuff." Getting new equipment was an extremely rare event so I was suspicious and told my team to not destroy our equipment until I figured out what was going on. Come to find out, our section sergeant had heard a rumor that broken equipment could be exchanged for new equipment without actually discovering if this were true or not. In his mind, if a broken thing can be replaced with something new then why not break everything, right? Why not get new stuff. We always trained during the winter so the next time we rolled out to enjoy our 6 weeks in the frozen woods, the other teams had to do so with tents and cammo that were all torn up and patched together with duct tape.

[@fullclipaudio]

@@rickyrat42069 Oh? and what outfit did you serve with?

[@gourdguru]

ah yes, "Failing Upwards". in civilian office life, this is sometimes called "The Dilbert Principle", after the comic strip of the same name. the laziest, most bungling and useless screwup will be promoted to a desk position because the higher ups figure he can do far less damage if he's just pushing paper rather than handling customers or working the assembly line etc. in theory you can just oversee the paperwork and catch any major problems before anything comes of them, but no one ever actually keeps a close eye on him and as such most of his paperwork mistakes and stupid ideas get implemented and translate to far bigger office-wide screwups before anyone catches it. you sometimes see the same thing in law enforcment, a cop with a history of excessive force, civil rights violations or repeated negative interactions with members of the community will usually get tossed "Sideways" onto parking detail or school security detail or some other tertiary role the police fill where they can cause less trouble, but sometimes you'll see them get promoted to a desk position at the precinct, again the rationale being if he's pushing paper at the precinct house he isn't creating another lawsuit/media circus for the department.

[@TomFromYoutube]

I think that happens in government jobs in general not just the army.

[@fullclipaudio]

@@TomFromKZbin Yes but you can quit most government jobs. When the person in charge of you that must listen to was put there simply due to incompetance and can get you killed then it is a whole different ballgame.

[@TomFromYoutube]

@@fullclipaudio yea i see what you mean. I been in government work for many years and the shit I have seen and put up with is mind boggling though.

[@anthonyjames1745]

Before law number 3 I was pissed that we weren't even defining "stupid". Then I was pleasantly surprised. For the next several minutes I was trying to figure our whether or not that I qualify as a "stupid" person, until it was explained that it must be consistent. So I am happy to announce that I am in fact stupid and you all must take care of me 🙂

[@k-jo]

🤣 that's funny lol

[@TheBazzini]

You're patently dangerous and should be sectioned ASAP before you wreak further havoc!

[@whocares_yes]

Well good news: you are not! the simple fact that you can come to this conclusion proves that you are smart enough to question yourself and have definitions. Being a bit of a dummy but being aware of it doesnt mean stupid imo.

[@QuackersMcCrackers]

@@whocares_yes Ah! I actually came to the same conclusion myself... about myself. Which is awful news, because now this means I'm stupid! :(

[@OddWolf666]

@@whocares_yes it's like you didn't even watch the video!😃

[@moka9871]

I used to work at a call center for a famous luxury brand and what I always kept asking myself was "How can you earn so much money and be that stupid" (The answer probably is nepotism or something like that) I had calls from stupidly rich (pun intended) people asking the dumbest questions every day. Some of them were either smart or kind being nice to me and getting me to make extra effort that benefited them. Others were really dumb and rude insulting me directly or being passive agressive and I made sure to do the bare minimum, sometimes even not doing anything for them as payback. So I belive there is some truth to these laws

[@vinzanity68]

U r the bandit in the graph.

[@suzieg8310]

What you describe is simply the difference between old money and new money. New money (or really anyone new to power and position) has not yet learned how to deal politely with "the help", because they are so unsure of themselves. Old money has been raised to it. No matter how polite they are, you always know that you are the help. I used to work in luxury too, lol

[@sue.F]

Sure, but is this net result of their stupidity harming you or others? I would argue that their stupidity was in fact a benefit to you because without a certain amount of dumb and perhaps easily solvable questions the luxury brand you worked for would not have needed so many call operators and this would have resulted in a job loss. While it may be argued that the cost of operating a call line is factored into the cost of this luxury brand, it did result in a more equitable distribution of profits.

[@reypolice5231]

I have dealt with extremely wealthy people also. Some are helpful and decent. Their kids are not in some cases, because they never worked for what they have. Example: In business at least Trump paid his help well. Dealt fairly with most people. Worked for what he got and took what his dad gave him and made it bigger. Then you have hunter Biden, as an example, doesn't know the value of things because he wasn't taught it. Privileged life he didn't work for. Exibits aggressive stupidity as his actions routinely do not benefit anyone, not even himself. However acts as a bandit and fails at it badly, gets caught. Leave a mess behind for someone else to clean up. I have seen many children of the rich utterly incapable. So they use their family connection to steal. It never works out for them in the end. It might take forty years to land on them, but it always lands on them eventually.

[@mackenzieclancy959]

when designing trash cans for national parks, there is considerable overlap between the stupidest people and the smartest bears

[@alexfagnan7469]

Lol…the bears are exploiting those peoples stupidity.

[@rodneyburns243]

I stated stupidity is included in a venn diagram of intelligence. You are a good observer

[@ClaudetteMiss]

@@rodneyburns243 Nah, the trashcan/bear thing is an internet meme

[@MyName-tb9oz]

I just laughed so hard that I choked on my coffee!

[@nobodyknows3180]

😂🤣😂

[@jameshallahan4376]

Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity - The most important insight is that stupidity is essentially a moral failing more than an intellectual one. The failure is in believing things based on how they make us feel, rather than on their truthfulness.

[@gomez9949]

That and some truth is subjective. Principles and morals are born from wanting to wrangle these particular truths into a reliable manual for living the "right" way. I went to an outdoor gathering the church down my street was hosting, mostly for the movie, tacos, and to socialize. I remember seeing an eight or nine year old rolling one of those large plastic tables and I said to him, "It's just a table." Thinking about it now I laugh because if the father was watching he may have thought I meant, "It's just a table (Endure be strong.)" While the mother could be smiling at me thinking, "It's just a table (Be safe, if you drop it it'll be ok.) "I suppose" you could say this may be part of why art makes some people angry, well anything really... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6XWY3lqabekfNk

[@huntercrouch3228]

@@gomez9949 I guess I'm one of the stupid people, because I can't figure out from the context what you meant.

[@NickRoman]

@@huntercrouch3228 , and how do you roll a table?

[@redeyejedi68]

THIS

[@gottesurteil3201]

It seems like integrity and compassion are the most important factors for the author's view of intelligence.

[@andytidnits]

I think this is related: Once at work (IT cubicle world) I was listening to my co worker Jane who was on the phone. She was being very professional but by what she was saying to the other person on the line I could tell that the person was being an idiot and could not understand a relatively simple, well articulated explanation. At the same time, one of our co-workers, Bob, was standing just outside her cubicle waiting to speak with her. After she hung up the phone Bob asked Jane a very reasonable question and Jane's reaction was completely idiotic, she was now his idiot. It was then that it struck me: AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME EACH OF US CAN BE SOMEONE ELSE'S IDIOT. For example, you get cut-off on the road by someone who clearly did not see your car because they never turned their head to look: He's your idiot. Angry, you pull into your destination, McDonald's drive through, and put in your order. You receive your order and then complain loudly that they got something wrong. You persist. It then becomes clear that your order was correct: Now YOU"RE their idiot. It can happen in the blink of an eye, as was the case with my co-workers. I find this to be a humbling insight because we all do this on occasion. I think the link for me to the Basic Laws of Human Stupidity is that this behavior is a subset of the stupid person. It is a behavior we all exhibit occasionally. Being stupid as Cipolla defines it seems to be a persistent behavior. Being someone else's idiot may just be transitory but could be perceived as stupid.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

/so true. It's a fluid state!

[@ChrisTian-uw9tq]

Nicely observed and expressed ;)

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

is idiocy the same as stupidity? what you're describing is the "stupidity cascading effect." like hate is more contagious than love, paranoia more contagious than reason, stupidity is more contagious than "intelligence." stupidity and fascism are much alike. i claim fascism is an infectious mental illness that robs the victim of all ability for reason, logic, empathy and ethics. its mass psychosis. there are even people who're proud of their stupidity. fascists wear it as a badge of honor. so sad to be soooooo stupid. but like they say - ignorance is bliss!

[@frankbbnormal3608]

That sounds very intelligent and I can very well agree with your clever analysis... Allthough it could be that you and also I are social idiots in daily life and we do damage others and ourselves without realising it, which would mean that we're both stupid... Maybe in theory social intelligent but not in real life... Or maybe I better shut up, allthough that's the real literal translation of being stupid; not being able to talk/communicate. Two songs; "Everybody's somebody's fool" OR "The sound of silence".

[@Aaackermann]

So true. But it lacks one notion. Are you stupid for limited occasions or is your stupidity defining you. So as you said everybody can be stupid at one point or another, often caused by distraction or maybe tire. But some are stupid on a fundamental level. So that they are all the time the person causing trouble!

[@benallen2942]

This is a very interesting idea. It would be interesting to talk with him about things like, "Love thy neighbor as you would love yourself." and 1Corinthians 13, describing what love is. The definition of stupidity in this video seems very parallel to living for the world or be worldly; doing things without really knowing why except it's what everyone else does or just because it feels good. This is definitely not a conversation piece for everyone, I can see how it could come across as pretty offensive. However usually when we confront the truth in ourselves it can be painful.

[@joelpandess2346]

Amen brother

[@frankdeleon4209]

Why does behaving benevolently and applying common sense to everyday life have to be deified. Can we as humans take credit for actually being good

[@brandex2011]

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

[@esmannr]

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." S L Clemens

[@jeanclaudejaycee3472]

This is actually my quote!

[@esmannr]

@@jeanclaudejaycee3472 Sorry. Didn’t read all the posts.

[@zelenskysboot361]

@@jeanclaudejaycee3472 no its not. That's my hero. Laugh before you die

[@itadaku23]

I learned this in jail. "Please the fool, never tease the fool"

[@beinghuman3225]

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

[@josephdargy936]

"Me, I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for 'cause you can never predict when they're gonna do something incredibly stupid." - Captain Jack Sparrow

[@tabithacamarillo3789]

You think honest people are only honest because they're too stupid to be dishonest.... honestly????????

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

@@tabithacamarillo3789 too stupid to be afraid exists. Too stupid to see the danger exists. Too proud to allow the thought of having made an error also exists. Good intentions do not guarantee good outcomes. For instance: cpr. We know a lot about it, but for centuries drowned sailors have taken abuse because somewhere some unconscies guy had been punched in the gut and woke up, word spread and so people saved from the water got their liver punched to bits instead of the kiss of life. Another example: treating combat wounds with boiling pitch, to burn the wounds shut. One time a field docter had so many wounded after a big battle that he ran out of pitch. He trend them as best he could, but was worried sick. Halfway the night he woke up, riddled with guilt, and went to check on his patients. To his surprise most were well and calm, some even asleep, while the first ones that had been treated when pitch was still available were restless, moaning in pain, feverish, and not doing well at all. Best intentions, bad results. Too bad I forgot the name of the guy

[@stephenhanger2521]

" Captain Jack Sparrow" you say. No, You call the second man, "Unpredictable." Maybe THe Captain is just too dumb to know who he can trust and who he can not trust or he is perhaps an Alcoholic who gets his philosophy from the bottom of a Wiskey Bottle ?

[@yepwhatever1142]

Joseph, that's really stupid.

[@michaelwaninger3155]

Bring back Johnny.

[@laurapaparella2814]

This explains everything happening in society today. Great podcast.

[@sirclarkmarz]

It's been happening since the dawn of humanity the only thing different is we have 24/7 media coverage now that doesn't condemn stupidity but makes excuses for it . Stupid people are encouraged by this and it has caused the exponential growth of stupidity worldwide .

[@Moribus_Artibus]

"It's difficult to free fools from chains they revere." - Voltaire

[@Livefreeordie-182]

Change 'chains' to masks' and you got it 100%

[@KibyNykraft]

Most people are actors. They act as if there are no chains, simply because it feels safer that way. If the partial way out of chains can be participating in pure evil against a minority or individual, the large majority will always choose to do that. It is a pack animal instinct. If you know that someone penetr..tes your behind every week financially and in every other way, you start going into denial. An escape from reality, a common instinct in all beings. Like the spider who plays dead if it cannot escape fast, or it's venom is too weak to harm the big monster about to step on it. ("probably the monster will think I am dead") That is the effect of the public always trusting the gov..nment. Or always voting for the biggest parties. Always believing mainstr..m media narratives. And so forth. Other ways of escape from reality is to get religio..s or to trust political wing-guerillas and pseudoradicals who cannot see the difference between corruption realities of the elites vs imaginery monsters from outer space.

[@krzysztofciuba271]

I love it! The perfect proof of today's global idiocy of AGW@16teen years school-dropout preaching at UN,UE, US Congress and as CNN "expert". If u also revere Her@AlGore read just a few sentences p.744 in IPCC 2001 report that undermines their own garbage about future temp. predictions (in logic:contra the reverend non-contradiction principle-Aristotle, Matthew 5:37)

[@CashCowz962]

Yeah..they go back and get more expensive chains

[@guyinaplace]

@@krzysztofciuba271 whoooosh

[@TROOPERfarcry]

Saw a "spray-paint" in an online video game a long time ago in a team-based game that said, "A noob can noob harder than a pro can pro." Meaning that the strongest conceivable member of the team could not overcome the deficit created by a dumbass. I don't know if it was the presentation or the sentence structure, or maybe just sleep-deprivation.... _but that sentence made it deep inside of my mind._

[@jujubee4249]

That’s fascinating dude. I think in the realm of team based video games, this theory of stupidity is the most applicable. You have the pros who do everything in their power to help their team while keeping themselves alive to do so (intelligent). You have the skilled players who chase stats and don’t give an EFF about their team (bandits). You have the folks who know they aren’t skilled, but know generally how to play in a way that won’t out right harm their team, but aren’t the hero’s - could be a noob (hapless). Then you have XXXdragon420, the guy who can’t be reasoned with, has terrible stats but knows the game, and seems like he’s intentionally doing things to bring the team down in some twisted display of masochism / apathy… and revels in making the game unenjoyable

[@citrusjuicebox]

@@jujubee4249 holy crap, that's why it's rude to be bad at WoW.

[@dankurtis5738]

Scrubs. The way they approach any situation guarantees failure.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

@@shaneh1003 Left 4 Dead 2... specifically the "survival" gameplay.

[@mr.husbandoeu7254]

It's rare to find such a great philosophical person in video games

[@sambabisky4742]

I was in my late 30's before I fully understood this. A mentor I had at the time a very good man, told me one day when I was complaining about a new member of my team how hard it was dealing with that person. He said stupid people don't know they are stupid so you are not dealing with them you are fencing them in to limit the negative out comes that they will bring.

[@romitsu968]

Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.

[@carstenhansen5757]

@@romitsu968 You're exactly what's he is talking about.

[@curbmassa]

@@carstenhansen5757 And you expect him to understand that? Don't be stupid......

[@carstenhansen5757]

@@curbmassa In time he might. I have more hope for him, than you....

[@thomasmichaelschwarz9741]

@@carstenhansen5757 hope is the foundation of failure....😉

[@frankmccarthy2624]

I’ve really tried to stay in the win/win intelligent box for all of my adult life. We won’t talk about teenage years haha! But I always found it amazing that when I would present a group with a win/win solution invariably there would be a few that would fight me tooth and nail just for the sake of blowing up the groups outcome, with no gain themselves. The helpless and stupid often become ally’s too in those group situations.

[@Heisenberg69-qn8mm]

Not really, they weren't helpless cause as he said, helpless people are those who benefit others but not themselves.

[@robertgreen7148]

Usually it's the stupid and the bandits that become allies...because the bandits can profit off the stupid and the helpless!

[@johnbutler5650]

I’ve heard people say “ If you could just have a meaningful conversation with them….” You CAN’T have a reasonable conversation with a stupid person.

[@giggymiggins2456]

The mistake is believing they want a conversation at all.

[@anthonyjeromejr.6808]

That’s because there stupid

[@dropperknot]

@@anthonyjeromejr.6808 ''They're stupid'', Stupid!

[@jackwalker1822]

It seems like we all fall into that doomed attempt from time to time trying to reason with stupid people.

[@dusty6345]

@@dropperknot 😂

[@luciferstaxi]

"Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinishable from evil." - Packwood's Law

[@donaldedward4951]

We all have the power to be evil but stupid people can't tell the difference between things evil and things benign. (Donald Edward's Law)

[@I_Don_t_want_a_handle]

@@donaldedward4951 I'd disagree with that. A stupid act is one, I'd say, that is performed despite evidence that it will fail. Also the road to hell is paved by good intentions. Also, also we all have the ability to act stupidly and we all do, often unintentionally.

[@medexamtoolscom]

That's pretty good. I have always found fault with the claim "you shouldn't attribute to evil, that which is explained by stupidity." Because stupidity can simply be a form of evil, if as you said, it is sufficiently advanced. A nice parody of the famous Arthur C Clarke quote of sufficiently advanced technology and magic, too.

[@ohgosh5892]

...as the letter 'g' is indistinguishable from a zero-width character :-)

[@jumbo_mumbo1441]

Indistinguishable

[@Meregolo]

A moment of silence for the stupid people watching this video and thinking they are part of the non-stupid crowd...

[@faiththrower7951]

😂😂😂😂

[@CharleneCotton-wb7yv]

I'm not sure which group I am in.... It depends on the day

[@nigellevey]

Excellent comment :)

[@GordoFriman]

I've seen stupid behavior next to me, many times: -case: A wasp nest inside an aluminum window structure. -Solution? Add big plaster of concrete to the base of the windows where there were some gaps for the wasps to go in an out. -Result? wasp kept going in an out as the whole thing was full of holes and gaps, plus the window shutter was not able to properly shut the window as now the concrete was in the middle of its path. -summary: the person just made the situation worse, for him, and for other people around.

[@aspieatheist6040]

"There is no point in making something idiot-proof because idiots are such geniuses." One of Murphy's laws.

[@JFDSmit-rm6tw]

My dad had a good spin on this: "Geniuses often underestimate the ingenuity of fools."

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

By the time you've gotten any piece of technology to the degree of "idiot proof", only an idiot is going to want it. ;o)

[@wmmseo]

"Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool." Stephan Hawking

[@gintasvilkelis2544]

"If you make something idiot-proof, somebody will invent a better idiot"

[@KrepsyK]

I always thought it was phrased: "nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool" and "If you make something idiot proof, someone will build a better idiot".

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

“NEVER ARGUE WITH STUPID PEOPLE. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.” Robert Duvall -Mark Twain

[@Robert-nx3uy]

Mark twai N

[@infinitestare]

If a person is an idiot, then that's for long - quote from a soviet movie

[@Lg-xt5eh]

Why did you add two names for the quote?

[@Lg-xt5eh]

@@HankPanky If so, I'm gonna be nobody and find out

[@WhyDidYouSayThatJustWhy]

Because in order to see the real author of the quote, you have to "drag down" the comments to be able to see the real author

[@catharinepizzarello4784]

I am slowly crawling out of the void of stupidity. Learning to be unflinching honest with myself about my motives is most important. Taking action to change my behavior is also essential.

[@peterplotts1238]

Sounds like you are on exactly the right path. Stick to it and everyone worthwhile - except for you - will call you wise indeed.

[@tonymp]

Not many people have the mental fortitude to look at their behavior honestly and self assess. Good job, hope you reap the benefits!

[@peterplotts1238]

@@tonymp That's one of the hardest tricks for a human being to manage. Robert Burns wrote a whole poem about it.

[@bro4539]

Same here, been a long road I didn't even realise I was walking. I started by wandering due north from stupid land and now I'm trying to figure out what my interests really are and how to effectively serve them instead of fumbling around and making myself feel useful by helping others regardless of the cost to myself. Good luck!

[@sascotttx5145]

"unflinchingly"

[@peterplotts1238]

As a recovering stupid person, I found this fascinating, insightful - and painful. Stupid people are the most dangerous people on Earth and their ability to do immense harm should never be underestimated.

[@thisisnumber0]

Barack Obama...."never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

[@comb555]

"Stupid people don't know they're stupid." Just when you think you're no longer the same stupid person, you might have converted into another idiot. So always assume there are more or less always things for you to learn about the topic, and stay humble my friend

[@jarocats]

What changed you?

[@peterplotts1238]

@@jarocats Confronting the reality of my own considerable stupidity, of course. Moreover, I have known many very intelligent, even brilliant, but very stupid people. But you don't have to know them. As this video so rightly points out, human stupidity cuts across every class, level of education, race, profession, political belief, etc. In short, it is everywhere and business is brisk.

[@peterplotts1238]

@@thisisnumber0 What a great example. One stupid person accurately assessing the potential harm presented by another stupid person. Moreover, your example shows the tremendous diversity of the stupid community. That Biden is a dimwit has been widely known for decades. However, Obama represents another, less obvious and therefore more dangerous form of stupidity.

[@robertsteinbach7325]

TL;DR: I win, you win - Intelligent,; I win, you lose - Bandit I lose, you win - Helpless (Naive); I lose, you lose - Stupid

[@Apex_Alpha53]

Soo u can have intelligent people and stupid independently, but for one naive person u must have a bandit who fooled him, otherwise that person won't be called naive in the first place 😂

[@rickvenlo1362]

@@Apex_Alpha53 Trusting someone takes courage.

[@maciejkulczycki3882]

I would rather say "wise" instead of "intelligent". Wasn't Stalin intelligent?

[@SuperElkjer]

The win-win situation never exists. It's just because the actual looser is in the dark ond left out of the equation 🙂

[@Santaheckler]

Only stupid people think there are laws to be followed. 😉

[@beltempest4448]

I found this very challenging in a way that makes me uncomfortable.. in like a good way. Am I consistently behaving in a stupid way? I feel like the answer is yes I am. Yet people comment on how intelligent I appear to be. I don’t feel like a stupid person because I have the ability to think abstractly and I try to use critical thinking but there’s a lot in here that I think puts me in the helpless/stupid vein. This makes me feel like a person can be smart but can have stupid habits which result in a loss of benefits to themselves and others.

[@RoaringMind]

Someone made a comment which addresses the slightly reductionist viewpoint expressed in the article: true stupidity is being completely *unaware* of the damage one is inflicting. I tend to agree with this sentiment.

[@cardescomedioses3674]

imo, the article calls out terminally stupid people, i believe people can change categories as time goes by, like the bandit can become a smart peron or a smart person into a bandit, or a helpless one to a smart one, and the line between helpless and stupid is really hard to spot clearly, even for "smart" people, so i think you are likely doing great, self reflection is important to improve

[@kiradagenhearth3056]

You sound pretty stupid to me

[@sebastianoliva8361]

As mentioned by Roaring Mind, the fact that you’re self aware of that possibility is definitely a strong indicator that you aren’t in that quadrant of stupid people.

[@maryhart141]

I really could relate to your comments. As pointed out in the talk, actual intelligence does not prevent stupidity. It’s strange to realize that I am so stupid.

[@raj180380]

Very insightful. While growing up one of the most surprising realisation for me was that the world is full of stupid people.

[@roadrunner9622]

"It is vital how the other three quadrants choose to handle the stupid people." Up til the 1980's, stupid people were more-or-less marginalized and ignored. But today we have a situation where the intelligent and capable are expected to be quiet and give deference to the stupid. Intelligent people can have their dignity trodden underfoot, but they must be careful not to offend the stupid. And our society is in trouble because of it.

[@regular-joe]

Yes!! When "everyone's created equal" got mixed up with "everyone's entitled to their own opinion" and we ended up with "my opinion is as true as your facts".

[@yepwhatever1142]

Yep!

[@d3nza482]

Clearly, none of you guys ever served in any kind of military. What's fascinating though, is that somehow you've missed the memo on politicians, through history. Or kings and noblemen. Hell, you guys missed the story of Caligula. And boy... when you find out about all the completely failed civilizations through human history...

[@regular-joe]

@@d3nza482 Your reply isn't showing up in the comment thread under the video, I can only see it in my own notifications. What's KZbin done this time?!

[@chuckjls]

My brother is a labor lawyer who had a client who sued his employer for wrongful termination because he fired him for being too stupid. His claim was that he was fine doing the job he was hired to do and then the boss promoted him to a position that was beyond his capability and so he did poorly and they fired him. It seems to me that the boss was dumber than the stupid person he fired and he probably should have fired himself and let someone else run the company.

[@dungteller367]

The US currently is displaying a high level of dangerous behavior, and intelligence is not the cause!

[@GordonSeal]

The day Donald Trump was elected as president, the US really achieved peak stupidity. Or perhaps that will be if they elect him again.

[@Nagolobo2023]

Precisely 👏👏👏

[@shoeberrypie]

@@GordonSeal meanwhile, assigning society-wide problems to a meager president is either only moderate stupidity, or simple self-preservation in the presence of other stupid people

[@mattrussillo4587]

@@GordonSeal That will simply be the eclipse!

[@solarwolf678]

@@GordonSeal he helped the economy, keeped people that we did not fight for from illegally coming in our country, and handled the "pAnDeMiC" very well.

[@taliawtf6944]

I have worked in retail management for a few years before and I'm an avid people watcher on top of that from what I have seen this whole thought exercise is spot on. The danger stupid people can cause to themselves and anyone near them is both awe inspiring and terrifying.

[@NeverForget1776]

I too worked retail for over a decade, in the 90s and you gain a real insight into human behavior when you work retail long enough especially if as most in retail, you move around between various retailers. I learned long ago that when it comes to the semester women are the laziest. They will drop clothes where they stand even if it means the floor. Men may be bad at putting things back but most will at least try. I've said for decades that our society would be a better society if all people had to work in retail at least 1 year ideally while in their mid to late teens. Teaches you to treat others better

[@taliawtf6944]

@@NeverForget1776 I agree, I have seen fully grown people pick up something look at it then decide they don't want it and just drop it on the floor like a giant toddler. It's beyond frustrating when you just faced/recovered that very isle or just set the mod for it. I know they wouldn't do that in their own home so why do it in someone's place of business? Pet peev I had. lol

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

@@taliawtf6944 I don't know if that is stupidity. Those kind of people have no, repeat, no respect. They are the people that think the rules don't apply to them. They are the ones that take pictures in the museum that strictly prohibits photos. They are the ones who step past the barriers that say "Please do not cross". They are the ones who touch when the sign says "Please don't touch". They are the ones that carve their names on to antiquities or plants in a botanical garden. People that think they are entitled to act however they want with no consequences. And they also take no responsibility for their actions. It's a sad world and I don't have much hope for any improvement.

[@seanrafferty3767]

I don’t think lack of respect precludes stupidity. In fact, I think the example of dropping a retail item on the floor because you aren’t interested in it fits the description of stupidity mentioned in the video to a tee. Dropping an item on the floor instead of placing it back is a negative for others, it causes extra work for the employees, it could potentially break the item, it causes someone that is interested in the item to pick it up off the floor, etc. It also does not provide benefit to the person dropping the item. Unless you consider avoiding the extremely minor inconvenience of having to place the item on the rack as a benefit, which I would not. In fact, it could be seen as a negative for the person that dropped it, as now the store they’re shopping in is dirtier, and the sight of items of the floor could cause other shoppers to discard items on the floor instead of properly returning them.

[@taliawtf6944]

@@seanrafferty3767 Yeah that was more of a vent for seeing it done for years than anything else. You could say it's a lack of empathic stupidity as these people just can't fathom why the staff was upset with them. They completely failed to figure out it's the same someone trashing your office or home.

[@susanblack7782]

A stupid person may have knowledge, but lack understanding to benefit from it.

[@user-gl9iz1bp1r]

“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil,” wrote Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German theologian.

[@Pioneer_DE]

What you should also mention is he was a strict pacifist and Anti Nazi Resistance Fighter.

[@memes4life26]

What if a person is so malicious they are willing to hurt themselves to harm others?

[@damdampapa]

75 Jahre später und immer noch zeitgemäß.

[@honeytubs]

@@Pioneer_DE A fighting pacifist! Those are the most dangerous pacifists. But if I had to get into a fight a pacifist would be my chosen opponent.

[@doctorlarry2273]

This whole "theory" is based on Bonhoeffer's work.

[@prototype8534]

As an Italian myself, the first law is actually a popular saying here “the stupid’s mother is always pregnant “

[@jameshallahan4376]

What does that mean? The stupids mother has so many children she can’t pay enough attention to any of them?

[@jasminaogrady7470]

My Italian friend told me this proverb years ago. He put it as : "The mother of fools is constantly pregnant and every day she gives birth to twins." It simply means that stupid people are more numerous and are multiplying with a double speed!

[@prototype8534]

@@jasminaogrady7470 yes exactly

[@jasminaogrady7470]

Hi! I would be most grateful if you could write the saying in Italian? Thanks!

[@prototype8534]

@@jasminaogrady7470 La mamma degli stupidi è sempre incinta (You can change degli stupidi with “degli scemi” (dumb people) or “dei fessi” (fool people)

[@mrcuttime22]

I've had my stupid moments that were lose-lose... and times I've been helpless. There were times I was a bandito... and many, many times I was smart enuf to create some win-win. This is a good reason to look in the mirror and recognize stupidity is not a permanent state. We can see him COMING and learn to refuse him as lose-loser.

[@ramushsteinuts9318]

sure thing dude

[@MatthewLombardi84]

Ye. This was my main issue with his theory. That it was so black and white. I suppose we are all these things at times.

[@ziploc2000]

Agreed. My definition of stupidity would be failing to learn from our mistakes.

[@jkaanta8555]

Well said! That's helped me think about this more constructively. Thanks, Rick!

[@killaknight12]

Of course nobody is perfect and you need to make your own experiences and learn. But there's the difference to people who keep forcing stupid lose-lose situations, there's no sign of reflecting their own behaviour and they would go far and beyond to claim what they do is always right, no matter if evidence is totally against them. I had a friend who would constantly distract herself while driving, looking at her phone or searching for something, you could tell her countless times how dangerous that is for herself AND everyone else, but she wouldn't learn. She already managed to get her car wrecked, but she just wouldn't stop doing these obviously stupid things while driving. Additionally, she alway claimed to just be very clumsy, when in fact she always forced these situations, while everyone can see and point it out from a mile away, yet she won't ever get it into her head or just doesn't care, I don't know.

[@LePedantSemantique]

Having lived in various cities around the world, I would describe typical drivers by similar standards. (Specifics are redacted to avoid distraction by offense) 1. Bandits were the “Blank” city taxi drivers who’d dangerously cross my lane for a fare on the other side of the road. 2. Intelligent drivers are rare. 3. Stupid “Blank” city drivers who’d speed ahead of you to block your exit ramp while simultaneously putting themselves in the midst of a bottleneck. 4. Helpless “Blank” race of drivers who endanger everyone by sheepishly allow others to their rightful spot under the guise of being “nice”.

[@abhijeetmandal3822]

Law#1: everyone underestimates the number of stupid people. Law#2: The probability that a person is stupid is independent of any other characteristics. Law#3: A stupid person causes losses to others without gains to themselves. Law#4: non-stupid people underestimate the danger of the stupid. Law#5: Stupid people are the most dangerous people on the planet.

[@logi-operations]

... yep

[@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010]

Law#6: Everyone eventually goes stupid, lonely and depressed. Stop blaming stupid people, they cannot get near anything important anyway.

[@douglasracionzer8900]

@@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010q1

[@Eris123451]

I have to confess that as soon as read the so called first law I realized immediately that this is probably a complete load of bollocks. Intelligence of which stupidity is simply a low value of, follows the normal distribution meaning that the outliers of atypically gifted and atypically stupid people are both relatively small in number and loosely equal in number. The majority of people, the overwhelming majority of people myself included fall somewhere between those two extremes and are not so much stupid as for want of a better term, "normal ?" There's an old saying that, "The best is the enemy of the good," and I strongly suspect that most people are not nearly as stupid as the creators of this video would have us believe nor, it's authors anywhere near as clever and brilliant as they might want us to think.

[@anomamos9095]

Law#6 Stupid people often think that they’re smart and won’t listen to anyone else.

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

This is a very interesting and useful idea, particularly in the definition of "stupidity." But--and this is a big one--the premise behind it has a glaring flaw. This model is static, not dynamic. In other words, people simply ARE stupid, intelligent, bandits, or helpless. But in terms of human behavior, this is about habits. Nearly all behavior is. So I do not presume that everyone is inherently belonging to one of these categories. Rather, I actually suspect every single human who does not die in infancy indulges in all four behaviors. Everyone sooner or later is (using this model) IS stupid, intelligent, a bandit, and helpless. You. Me. Him. Her. Name someone. Anyone. At all. They have been all four in their lives. They also will be all four. It is just that (using these definitions) not enough people try to behave intelligently. What I do not believe is that we cannot change our behavior. No guarantee everyone will, only that everyone can and some of them absolutely will in terms of habits.

[@grego.ry.omeley4230]

Some believe there are only four personality traits Sanguine Melancholic phlegmatic Choleric and we belong to one of them , but I believe we can / do swing between them to an extent , in the right or wrong situation I life in an area where we have four season days may be one or two times in the year but still we experience those crazy days , and I agree of the ability to swing between the four quadrants of this " stupid ," post .

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Seems like this is an imbalance in the typical archetypal expressions. The loudest idiots are the most influential and when the metrics favor every individual interaction as equal regardless of any actual value it blurs the "stupid" line.

[@teamorozuk6819]

Then there's the aspect of people who are sufficiently aware of these ideas, are actively aware of Cipolla's four classifications and practice an ongoing resolve to reside in the upper right quadrant of his matrix. In this way, they serve the general well being of society as well as their own. Win-win. Existential self determination to be a positive influence on the current human condition and human evolution itself.

[@camilafilosafia333]

I like this comment. I like the flexibility of the concepts.

[@marlborogorila]

In fact he predicts the constance in stupidity, I believe leaving room to argue that intelligence is inconstant, something that is easy to understand when you see someone learning to behave in society from infancy do adulthood.

[@TorMax9]

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Robert J. Hanlon

[@dubes5594]

Or....never attribute to stupidity that which is adiquitly explained by mallace

[@EphemeralTao]

Hanlon's Razor is a very valuable tool in political science particularly.

[@floydchen7523]

I've struggled with the idea of malice being just stupidity. One doubt arises when I feel that stupidity should get random results but always seems to produce malevolent ones. I wonder is stupidity is just "games that people play" in disguise.

[@thedoranwilliamsshow6863]

People who worship Covid19, masks, vaccines, job loss, Communism, and hate for their own country are stupid. They are hurting the rest of us by complying like 1940's trained Nazis. Plus they are hurting themselves because when you choose to take away people's rights and freedoms, then your rights and freedoms are the next to get taken.

[@rhael42]

sufficiently advanced ignorance is functionally indistinguishable from malice

[@robertginsburg8113]

This does a good job of explaining how dangerous the Trump MAGA cult is.

[@johnpowell9169]

While were quoting Twain this is the one I always tried to live by " It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool ,than to speak and remove all doubt " Oh and thank you for the Carlin quote.

[@richardlewis1243]

There are also very similar sentiments found in Proverbs

[@alswearengen6427]

Is that a Mark Twain quote? I always thought it was Abe Lincoln.

[@TheWormIsaiah]

While 'we are' not 'were'. Just saying....

[@sammysame]

That is also a very old Latin proverb as relayed by sir Humphrey

[@disregardingsanity2890]

“We’re” and the quote is from Shakespeare.

[@miker4895]

Never argue with a stupid person, they will drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

[@stm7810]

sounds like something you'd say to feel less bad for sucking at explaining your ideas. you don't really understand anything unless you can explain it to a 5 year old.

[@ambeatzZz]

I agree, you are right..

[@Snarkapotamus]

Twain I believe...

[@Sapper21b10]

It's why you never wrestle a pig in his pen. You'll both end up tired, sore and covered in shit. Only one of you is going to enjoy it.

[@franklinfleming1237]

Argue with an idiot for more than 10 minutes who is the idiot?

[@mikefranco5651]

Unfortunately, this is very relevant in America right now.

[@extremosaur]

Such a trendy and unhelpful thing to say.

[@MrMarkusbotha]

I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize trueindanationalhavphressure! - Joe Biden

[@alice_in_wonderland42]

Hi from India, here it's a bigger problem. We have experienced it's consequences already during 1975-1977.

[@shekharbansal1051]

Tell me where it is not!

[@folopoideco]

You are right, polarization by definition is stupid. Politics is the art of finding common ground and balancing the many different needs of different groups. When that's replaced by polarized intolerance its an stupidity problem for sure. People are causing problems to themselves and others, nobody wins.

[@MrMrsMGTow]

Updated for 2023 1. Stupid people -Donkeys' 2.Helpless people - Sheep/Sheeple 3. Bandits - Politician/Elites/Bankers 4. Intelligent people - Everyone else who is left.

[@JonnM]

Bonhoeffer wrote that “Stupidity is not an intellectual defect, so much as a moral one”

[@evagelosgeronicolas4019]

Yes! IT IS A MORAL DEFECT. It seems to me that stupid people get a kick for just messing things up and this is a form of pettiness. And so, for a revolution, like the one that now breeds all over the world, or the French revolution in the past, if you are, say, Soros, or Adam Weishaupt, you have to pick up a crucial number of intelligent-stupid people in order to destabilize things. It explains why Antifa and BLM and feminist organizations recruit from colleges.

[@willmind4296]

The irony with Bonhoeffer is that he was a priest. Religion is the seed of bandits to create stupid people if you follow this matrix.

[@willmind4296]

@@evagelosgeronicolas4019 sounds like you proclaim Biblical morals?

[@richardprice9730]

Yes

[@evagelosgeronicolas4019]

@@willmind4296 Unashamedly, yes.

[@markjohansen6048]

The last point is interesting. I can see it being true this way: You can deal with a "bandit" by creating consequences for bad behavior. If you continue to take advantage of me, I will stop doing favors for you. If you steal, we'll arrest you and throw you in jail. Etc. But if a person isn't smart enough to realize that what he is doing is hurting himself, then creating consequence won't matter, because he doesn't consider the consequences when making decisions.

[@strictnonconformist7369]

This is why we have laws to protect the stupid, because they can't protect themselves.

[@rayzek7750]

Simple put: this are stupid people

[@Ming1975]

Prison should be for criminals, mental institute should be for mentally disabled, maybe the Asylum is where stupid people should be kept.

[@googlellc3490]

Jail is bullshit

[@wulv1013]

Dude you obviously have life experience and that is a brilliant little statement

[@ronjon6512]

In my experience, stupid people engage in character assassination when someone they don't like has what it takes to rise up the ranks in the average company. Sometimes we do dumb things and earn a "bad" reputation but when you are associated with a bad reputation without earning it, then there is a stupid person at work that doesn't like you.

[@rogerwilco2]

I think those are bandits.

[@yycbiker]

Such people eliminate intelligent people from promotions in workplaces to dumb the whole corporation down to their level rather than allowing people with different skills to compensate for their management deficiencies. Incompetent managers need to satisfy their fragile egos by always keeping an adequate supply of violent people working for them who have the same learning disabilities. In such a situation, being laid off is actually a higher complement than flattery.

[@ronjon6512]

@@yycbiker absolutely, you nailed it

[@karenoogjenbiserni1201]

Dear Ron Jon: If they are hurting someone's character by lying through written words it's legally called "character defamation; if orally then it's legally called "slander"..both ways are illegal.

[@wmmseo]

Sounds like FOX news

[@cp4512]

Unfortunately I work with and for stupid people 😞

[@BrillianceManifested]

Being a huge proponent of the teaching of behavioral intelligence, this was music to my ears. You can be successful academically and fiscally but be a failure as a human being.

[@reaper411b]

omg yes, exactly. my mother and aunt, very professionally successful, took me absolutely ages to realize and you'd never guess from the outside that they're absolute trainwrecks of human beings.

[@jacobheinz8236]

Absolutely! I met many, actually 😔

[@lbfeline2782]

I would add my personal experience that the most intelligent people are frequently also the stupidest. People assume intelligence precludes stupidity…it does not.

[@chickenbloodmachine]

So what, in your view defines a “successful” human being?

[@andyh8239]

Like Hunter Biden.

[@Krivack]

Stupid people never, ever -- not for a single moment -- contemplate the possibility that they themselves could be stupid.

[@glennso47]

I have contemplated that fact for years. That I am stupid. Not really stupid, just ignorant. Stupid is forever, ignorant can be fixed.

[@musicjunkie2k]

You have both said a mouthful. I feel precisely the same. Woefully inadequate. But trying to understand my own ignorance.

[@odomisan]

The worst part, they believe they are smart.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@odomisan Include me out of that.

[@philipjungelson8591]

You cannot make never more never than it already is... rather like trying to improve on the immediacy of now by prefacing it with right, à l’américaine!

[@janusatthegate6201]

Stupidity is the condition of being unable to learn.

[@Glisean]

It's crazy how I was trying to explain this concept to someone without knowing that it was an actual theory until now. I was saying how some of the most powerful people in our society are actually very stupid despite being praised for being intelligent because in their own self interest they will hurt people on a massive scale and therefore themselves in the long run. They didn't take what I was saying seriously.

[@TimeattackGD]

if you define smart as that then yes. if you define smart as finding logical patterns quickly, absolutely not. this seems more like "if I define what people with power who are hurting other people do, namely hurting other people, as stupid, then these people are stupid". also hurting others does not result in hurting oneself. it would probably work so in a perfect society, but thats simply not the case

[@JK-rd9dj]

@@TimeattackGD hurting the nation and burning the land that you live in will have some effects either on you or your children, but it just takes a while for the effect to materialize: that's the whole debate about climate change and nuclear war. And you can easily argue that politicians make it harder for themselves when they're acting in a corrupted manner as the extra millions doesn't really change their lifestyle - but in the long run they risk their reputation, their respectability, their freedom and sometimes their lives.

[@JK-rd9dj]

@@TimeattackGD in the context of both the video and the comment I think the concept is more about wisdom and foolishness. Although I don't really think wisdom is that far from intelligence

[@stephenhanger2521]

They took it seriously, they just didn't care.

[@michaelwaninger3155]

People don't want to think about such things. Even if you bring it down to their level of understanding, they don't want to hear.