TWELFTH MAN

Twelfth Man belongs to Short Plays, a Daniel Gruener project commemorating the 2014 World Cup.
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Director: Duane Hopkins
Producer: Samm Haillay
Editors: Michael Gardiner, John Minton
Sound Design: Michael Gardiner
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[@lifeofageordie1512]

Any one else come back to this video today to get you in the mood???

[@FeedingOurFuture]

Wow, that editing was spectacular

[@Sussy__baka]

Can't even imagine this comment section if they were black.

[@ChristofferRonaasen]

+DirtyColossus etc.*

[@ProramboFails]

+Boundless Difference is they didn't go around raping and looting lmao

[@jameswray50]

Probably the exact same.

[@thoseovtheunlight723]

If they were all black it would have just broken into a riot with widespread burning and looting. the game would never happen.

[@Neravine]

+ThoseOvTheUnlight Just like all those NBA riots in the deep south.

[@RayRJR]

Some people are seemingly forgetting (or ignorant to the fact) that this rivalry goes beyond football. These two sets of people (Geordie's and Mackem's) literally fought against each other in a fucking Civil War, the hatred is deep-seated into their culture/upbringing.

[@hamster4810]

Which civil war was that?

[@RayRJR]

@@hamster4810 English Civil War. Newcastle were on the side of King George (which is why they’re known as Geordies), whereas Sunderland supported Cromwell.

[@hamster4810]

@@RayRJR oh alright, didn’t know that they fought on opposite sides

[@Darkrai__]

@@hamster4810 yeah there was some mad battle at fulwell or something I think

[@bozabgd9911]

Support for all fans in England who fight against this crazy "big-brother" system ! From Belgrade, Serbia ! Red Star - Europe Marakana ! AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL

[@BroadcastDr]

I don't know what people are complaining about. This looks like a lot of fun.

[@kennylowrie1049]

We need one of these films about the Old Firm!

[@mihajlojovanovic5952]

The problem is, there's no any more the Old Firm :D

[@kfanady]

Absolutely fantastic editing and shots - You did what so few aspiring editors fail to do - you mastered the use of blending / carrying over audio between scenes to make it seamless. Wonderful, wonderful work. When done right, the average person doesn't notice, and boy you knocked it out of the park.

[@EasterIsland_EGO]

I knew people that drove on the left side of the road were savages.

[@siecheil]

The kid at 1:17 : "mummy, daddy, I wanna go home now"

[@WRXcellent]

Incredible piece of cinema right here. This is special. Everything is shot so well. The best actors are the ones who don't know they are acting.

[@danielperson7578]

+Josh Firicano Yes, agreed. It is nice work.

[@spiffaz]

Holy crap, you could feel the tension!

[@intruder313]

Thousands of wankers ensuring football maintains it's thuggish image.

[@annheron4181]

The poor lower class plebs of Britain

[@deftbeats1124]

+Ann Heron weab

[@LookItsMrT]

"plebs" who says that haha

[@stijn1144]

ahh, americans.... if you are in this kind of atmosphere, there is nothing better. English football culture at its finest. Respect from Oostfront (Psv Eindhoven, Holland)

[@Gia1911Logous]

And English football culture isn't as good as Western European culture And that isn't nearly as good as Eastern European culture

[@MrFlyingflipflop]

Amazing piece of cinematography. As one person in the comment section said, the best actors are the ones that don't know they're acting. So much raw pure emotion in this short film I was one of the people who thought football was a pussy sport until I moved to England and started attending games. What TV doesn't accurately portray is the power, speed, endurance, and precision that football players posses. As for the fans, football games are therapeutic source of release for many people. Whether people care to admit it or not, they in one way or another are part of the rat race. 9-5 jobs, personal commitments, responsibilities to family and friends, accountabilities to everyone around them... It's all very draining, however its a part of life. When you go to a football game, nothing other than the ball shaking the back of your opponents net matters anymore, and you are not alone. You are effectively taking part in a group therapeutic session were you forget about everything and release any bent up stress you have in a non-destructive way. You scream, you shout, you laugh, and you live. You let go of everything else and live in the moment. We saw in the video that this might sometime get out of hand, however today, rarely does anything really bad happen.

[@listentowhatihear]

Your explanation reminds me of the Two Minute Hate

[@RedcoatGaming]

Shameful behaviour from a lot of those people, makes me ashamed that this sort of stuff actually happens in the name of a sports team.

[@DerLoladin]

+BLACest1990 In britain social standards are relatively high, in terms of behaving correctly, not complaining and so on. These events offer, especially younger people with more violent tendencies, an opportunity to vent. What it comes down to is that England is just as retarded as the rest of the world.

[@RedcoatGaming]

+BLACest1990 I think you get the bad and the good guys that follow sport, and unfortunately, there are a lot more of the bad in England. Our views on sports is a lot more personal and I don't understand why.

[@T0mat0S0up]

It goes further than the sport. It's tribal Britain and football is the stage.

[@fabriciob.1616]

If only instead this time of energy would go into protesting a shitty educational and judicial system.

[@RoflZack]

As someone from Vancouver, it only takes a handful of idiots to make everyone look bad. And once a few people start the sheep join in. Makes the whole city look bad :/

[@MCPaddyB]

This event was actually pretty tame. The editing and filter make it seem worse than it actually was. Basically just a bunch of drunk people shouting wanker at each other. Anyone who's upset or scared by this needs to grow a pair.

[@IdealContracting]

tame? lol would hate to see one that gets out of hand. Do they bring in the armed forces for those games?

[@didacie5076]

Exactly, all these americans reacting as if this is unheard of etc. It's just the beautiful game

[@majorappreciator2813]

Swear words and shaky camera work offend me - I'm so fucking triggered right now

[@georgeofhamilton]

Very well-made video.

[@wmorrell6345]

nicely edited

[@MeowFoWowz]

insubordinate...and churlish

[@benwoodhouse4557]

great job editors! some cracking moments in that

[@AFCcurlyFAN]

Wow that is some intense editing. Tense football rivalry at is finest! Loved every minute of it!

[@geonerd]

These thugs may be acting out more strongly than most, but the tribal psychology driving them is universal to all humans.

[@jovanycorona7361]

It's true.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

This is what being a human is about. Raw passion and tribalism. We think we are better than this but it's completely natural and inside of every single one of us.

[@Lerxst]

+Virgil Grissom Yea fuck millions of years of evolution, I wanna yell at the guys who like the guys who kick the ball into the net of the guys who I like watching kick the ball into their net.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

Juws​ It goes deeper than that though. This rivalry goes deeper than football and can be traced back to the civil war. They are working class men from one of the poorest regions in England. It doesn't matter how much evolution we have, humans are tribal by nature and nothing will change that. It's why we all are slightly racist.

[@Lerxst]

Virgil Grissom That moment when it's not 15,000 BCE and we have that thing called quality of life and we live in cities, not camps. Other people kill our food for us, prepare it for us, they grow our vegetables and fruits all on highly stratified, highly technological and automated farms. The last thing we are is 'tribal' considering a tribe is that of a non-sedentary group of hunter-gatherers with no formal leader. I'd say we're actually the exact opposite of tribal.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

Juws We have only had those advances for a few hundred years, our natural instincts will take thousands to leave us. Look at the middle east and Africa they are still very tribal even in developed cities. In fact 1/3 of the world's population are part of tribes. You have huge tribes like the berbers (30 million strong) the amharas (25 million) the oromo (30 millon) the hutu (15 million) the zulu (10 million) the yoruba (40 million) the hausa (35 million) the igbo (32 million). You are using the historical definition of a tribe to fit your argument.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

Juws Yeah well the first slave owner in America was a black man named anthony johnson. Native american tribes also kept slaves.

[@TheDubGnosis]

really really well put together

[@paradox_trikz5289]

Biggest derby in the world , prove me wrong

[@chrisb3598]

3:28 I really wish they wouldn't have filmed me.

[@samuel5273]

this is video editing at its best well done

[@KennethHunn]

+Samuel I was imagining the BTS if this was a group of less than 100 extras being shot closeup and given good audio.

[@ZimbaZumba]

This is basically the working class showing they can affect the world around, and a symptom of the hopelessness the system has dealt them. There are also other mechanisms at play here and I think the whole phenomenon has a lot to say about who we are deep down. This is post football skinhead era and a shadow what of I personally witnessed in the 1970's. The crowds were far larger and had a primeval warrior like feel about them. Their rhythmic chanting whilst coming down the street as a phalanges was no different from any tribal group prior to battle. The level of violence was incomprehensible, they were animals. The police have also seemed to forgotten how to control these crowds. By the mid 70's they had it down to an art form, the rivals crowds would not have got even remotely close to each other.

[@webstersellers8268]

the more injuries the more jobs though

[@SwampyWilkinson]

its just a ball

[@s5c517]

This derby goes back 400 years to the civil wall theres more to footy than this

[@qnteban]

"It's just a game" It isn't about the game. It''s about rivalry. Us vs them. A significant deal of these "fans" care more about busting some teeth in than the result of the match.

[@jamesbroad5056]

+TehDarkrai "oh there's a match on today? I just came to batter some cunts"

[@s5c517]

James Broad that’s the spirit why aye

[@Whatthejunk]

That was much more entertaining than the game itself.

[@beezers1979]

Great short film, love it!

[@lefenec]

this video is very well maid, amazing, thanks.

[@danielperson7578]

I am always amazed, yet never surprised.

[@deadliftyournan3293]

The beautiful game.

[@iwillshowyouofficial]

Very depressing. If only they cared that passionately about things that actually matter.

[@tylergodspeed82]

sfgagerg who's to say they don't? Seems pretty judgemental

[@lishb2039]

Why is Ed Sheeran involved in these shenanigans? 2:12

[@DOGGUYISH]

so tribal.. respect the energy. GREAT VID

[@michaelnardmann3208]

Please, just once, cameras instead of cops. I would watch that shit all day!

[@4GENS]

We've evolved for thousands of years to become this?

[@4GENS]

Big Money Balls Please

[@coolumar335]

+AnonyVideoZ Billions brotha...

[@goustune]

+AnonyVideoZ Well, we didn't evolved.

[@brianfoster9699]

+Not Awake Modern humans have only been around for 200,000 years tops

[@AndyRubio1]

Reminds me of Game of Thrones. Fantastic sound editing.

[@LesPaulBJJ]

Jeez I see this and I'm glad I'm in NZ where Rugby is the predominant spectator sport. I'm not sure whether it's a cultural difference or a sporting one but even at major rivalry games the most you get on a wide scale is friendly banter between "opposing" fans. At the end of the day it's just a game and everyone's there to watch that game be played with a high level of skill.

[@RabidGamer159]

+Rhys Morris "Rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen, football is a gentleman game played by thugs", guess it also applies to the people who watch them.

[@141GILLY]

Class

[@chrise1237]

Such precious time, resource, and energy wasted on a silly game. Such ruckus for something so meaningless. Meanwhile, crickets chirp when something like the TTIP gets passed in secrecy

[@s5c517]

Jack Hammer do you even understand football ya tosser

[@squarehead444]

AWESOME VIDEO well played

[@mikvas8088]

awesome!

[@ianolmstead3752]

Amazing how a window infront of the player can prevent you from watching

[@thejedimex]

that was crazy!

[@HaleXF11]

So this is what it's like to be stuck at 12 years of age your entire life. I guess it makes sense since most of them appear to be underdeveloped.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

Salty. looks like a good time to me. Beats making comments on youtube about other people's lifestyle.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

***** Getting drunk with your friends, going to a football match and taunting rival fans is a lifestyle. What do you do to pass the time? Yoga? You sanctimonious fool.

[@virgilgrissom7753]

***** You sound so holier than thou. At the end of the day you are going to the grave with us. We have fun you say you have fun, what's not to like?

[@srr1463]

Sorry Americans you dont understand it. Sorry Americans you need cheerleaders, you need a band for the music, you need to tailgate, you need to get drunk, you need commercial breaks and have to stay four hours in front of a TV. We don't need any of that, we do have our football.

[@tomservojr]

Is this you at 3:29?

[@srr1463]

@@tomservojr lol

[@workid5313]

Bring it back!

[@BigSirZebras]

When I was in Japan and someone would tell me they wanted to go to England because the English are well cultured and gentlemen I would show them this video.

[@UltraSNASC]

Great!!!!

[@TheJinxCast]

Respect the passion.

[@paulogross7722]

Those children learning how to hate.

[@MrShadowBlob]

I don't get what destroying shit and harassing people has to do with the sport. Did someone seriously throw a glass bottle against that horse? Wtf man.

[@karlcockburn3383]

+Destrex G. Someone punched a horse at a Derby match the other year. I'm ashamed to be from Newcastle when shit like that happens.

[@samuelmcgough5448]

Aye. Geordies are scum bags to be fair.

[@laurencechrisp1368]

Good day this. Very lively

[@JesperSeoul]

Credit to the Police...

[@quartzking3997]

pigs

[@TheSnowdolphin]

Mob mentality.

[@AznBurk]

In all honesty that's pretty sick

[@trancemeister]

God i miss the derby days. Hopefully we meet again soon you filthy mackems!!!!!

[@Jcob91]

I imagine they celebrate other peoples achievements because they will never have their own

[@Siggikari]

all for a sports match, weird aint it

[@gregwaugh7]

Its called passion 🤷‍♂️

[@JamesWoolfordDesign]

It's been like this before football

[@CooperCarr]

We need another plague.

[@Perricilus]

Your wish came true lmao

[@Jeremy-up6zq]

Karl Pilkingto would absolutely dread this.

[@wadedrake6169]

Without the assurance of safety the potential of the human mind is unable to bloom. The potential for human civilization is built from the hard work of everyone involved to tame their baser desires and harness their personal flaws into productive means of cooperation.

[@ironbornfitness4657]

You should watch some of the in game chants, they spare noone.

[@johnrucker7822]

reminds me of the movie Green Street hooligans. great movie btw

[@d2tz]

Does anyone else get really nervous when they see shit like this?

[@hazeydayzify]

Jesus fucking christ, when they lobbed that smoke can (?) at the horse I nearly cried. What the hell. It doesnt look like fun, it looks terrifying.

[@hazeydayzify]

The only reason its not descending into riot is cos the police are incredibly present and calm, if they stepped back and the fans had to be responsible for their own behaviour it would escalate. I've got no problem with football or rivalry or intense letting off steam, but I think this is different.

[@hazeydayzify]

Where do you live, Baghdad?

[@quartzking3997]

Imagine getting scared at football fans on a screen and crying at someone throwing a can at a horse

[@RO-py2xh]

This is an impeccably made short, props to the director.

[@jebsievers]

Worship is a dangerous verb.

[@tomelliott9]

The "full version" is just the same as this, but with a 4 minute advert on the end lol

[@Skinrar]

Hahahahaha all these cocky drunk kids with their 18 y/o drinking age on that courage shouting across streets and barriers.

[@MetaHybrid]

Have you thought of having an bigger annotation?

[@samsamsABC]

and it was an actual riot after the game. glad i cleared out of the city before full time!!

[@hullian1113]

Now I don't want Newcastle to go down.

[@YEFCallum]

The editing in this is fantastic, excellent job

[@maxf610]

This comment section is hilarious. You are all trolls. This is an awesome setting where people who love their sports teams express their love for the game. You think this behavior is odd? People have been behaving like this throughout all of our history. You are the out-group. Go participate in a team/group activity and maybe you'll develop some feelings hahaha. My sides right now.

[@Nazgy]

+Max Fields Being part of a sports group is one team, I love football myself, but flipping cars is a bit far yeah?

[@will16320]

We paid for your hats, a classic hooligan chant

[@joepowell5648]

Why grown men behave this way is beyond me.

[@STEPOVSEK24]

Americans in this comments oh dear.

[@Patrick_1973]

And you still got beat 🤣

[@kylieh123]

So it's a game of tag between the cops and people right?

[@KonigdesUrwalds]

What are the two teams?

[@thomasjones6648]

+aWizardfromEarth Newcastle and Sunderland

[@skypekai]

defense! defense! defense!

[@horstslammer6055]

Which Clubs are that?

[@sockman385]

+Horst Slammer It has to be Newcastle and Sunderland

[@brodyarmbar]

me and my Jersey bros want to party at one of these football games bro!

[@user-rt3uv2lw4v]

No

[@brodyarmbar]

What club should me and my Jersey bros cheer for? Better question, what English club is most like New Jersey bro?

[@brodyarmbar]

Kevin Orlando They seem alright. I've been to Milton Keynes a couple times. Do the MK Dons have a bad reputation?

[@brodyarmbar]

I just bought a Swansea city Jersey. Seem like we would party hard together. They're not the best but we're Atlantic ocean bros. SWANSEA!!

[@ruthlessandevil]

+Brody ArmBar Brighton and hove m8, they all dress the same as you and are into the same sort of stuff

[@pigpiggy7586]

MON THE SUNLUN

[@ghuldorgrey]

How can someone be so passionate about a certain sport? Its not even extreme sports, just fucking soccer.

[@fannylindfors7309]

Footboll is religion in Europe and south america

[@geordie-drywall]

only thing i miss bowt yem !!!

[@parkb88]

Can't we all just get along?

[@s5c517]

The mags are horse punching cunts

[@Xensor73]

Geez all you people throwing you hands up and exclaiming disgust seem to forget that this sort of rivalry happens in football across Europe and South America. Go to any local derby and you will see exactly the same sort of thuggish behaviour. This is not an English only problem, nor is suspect does it only happen in football, but no doubt football has the worst. Tribalism and crowd mentality are very powerful, especially when kids are brought up to HATE the local rivals. Not an excuse, just part of an explanation.

[@RoguePenguinScotland]

My team can kick a bag of wind up a field. I haven't evolved and still embrace tribalism. Want a fight?

[@khaostheory23]

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

[@SpartansAndHeroes]

What language were those people speaking?

[@jonnycliffe2548]

+Brett Gallo English

[@onion420]

so many nitbags hahah

[@senmarys]

knackers

[@Spacecuba]

All over a 90 minute game. Man, England what's wrong with your people?

[@ca9drop]

+Spacecuba More like what's wrong with football fanatics. This happens on most football matches on most countries.

[@ca9drop]

The Back of Beyond Oh, I didn't read your comment and it's basically what I said but better. I didn't want to generalize because I don't know about other countries, but in México is pretty much the same. It's not just England.