Twill Lift Plan

I'm using my Ashford, 8 shaft, 24 inch wide, table loom to weave some 2/2 twill, in a blue, purple, and yellow tartan pattern. What I want to show in this video is how the table loom uses a "lift plan" rather than "tie up" and treadles for opening the shed.

[@Mochi_Parrot]

This has been very helpful. I hope that you do more videos using the eight shaft table loom as I am having a hard time learning how to use mine and this was a great help.

[@SherrisPlace]

That was EPIC!!!!!!!!!! New weaver here! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

[@ravenwingxx3]

This is the single most helpful video that I've ever seen regarding weaving twill. I'm a brand new weaver, and I cannot wait to watch more of your videos! You are a delightful gentleman, and I sincerely thank you for making your videos.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thank you kindly for your comments. I always hope that someone will find my videos interesting and hopefully learn something from what I have done. It is not easy to know what will be helpful, so when I hear back that someone has learned something from one of my videos, it always makes me happy.

[@jedwardchapman]

I'd like to thank you for all your videos..... its great to see men weaving. I have been weaving on a rigid heddle for about 18 months and loving it. Your videos convinced me to make the jump to a table loom and I just ordered an Ashford 8 just like yours. I am fascinated by the twill structure and your conversion from 4-8 shafts really helped me see what twill is doing to the cloth. You are a real treasure!

[@curmudgeon66]

First off John, thank you for your kind comments. That sure didn't take long, only 3 weeks ago a bigger loom was out of the question! Believe me when I say that I really do understand making the big jump from an inkle to a table loom. I still enjoy using my Asford table loom, although I use it mostly now for portability and for "experimental" small projects. It really is a wonderful loom and I am sure you will get many years of great use out of it. A few hundred years ago, if I understand correctly, in Europe when weaving was done commercially it was almost always men who were the weavers. I also understand that when weaving was done in a home setting for just one's family that then it was usually done by women. Personally I am fascinated by the whole process, and the endless possibilities for designing and then "building" various pieces of cloth. Both structure and color can be used to create wonderfully unique projects. Enjoy your new loom!

[@oscilis]

This is such a massive help to someone who is still learning. I bought an Ashford eight shaft table loom after watching your other videos. I have just finished building it and ready to go! Thank you so much for making theses videos.

[@curmudgeon66]

+oscilis Congratulations on your new loom. You will love it! Enjoy playing with learning all the great things you can do with it and that you can make with it. The possibilities are endless.

[@edelellingsen]

Thank you for all the help you have given me. I watch all of your videos again and again. I even had to buy an Ashford eight shaft loom because of you 😀 I live in Norway and you look very scandinavian to me. Thank you again. Regards Edel Litland

[@curmudgeon66]

You are quite welcome! Well I do like both my Ashford (New Zealand) 8 shaft and my Louet (Netherlands) 12 shaft looms. They are great. Scandinavian? Well if half Danish ancestry (island of Fyn) and 1/4 English, and 1/4 from the Shetland islands (closer to Norway than Scotland) counts as Scandinavian, then I am guilty as charged. ;) And thank you so very much for watching my videos. I enjoy doing both the weaving and the videos, I only hope that I can be of some small help to a few people who are also interested in the wonderful art of weaving.

[@marianeill7141]

BEST tutorial!!!! I am a wanna-be weaver, trying to learn as much as I can....this post was what I needed to understand.....Thank you!

[@travgal9903]

Great explanation! and thank you for showing the difference in using treadles and using levers. I just picked up an Ashford 32" 8 shaft table loom so it all looks the same as what you are showing. You've made things clear.

[@CriaAndKiddFW]

THANK YOU for showing us how to convert the weave plans to table-loom friendly with the software. I appreciate all your videos!

[@kiwilassmanawatu6782]

I enjoy watching your constuctive video's and seeing the lovely cloth you weave. Thanks for the tip of spreading your many threads over the shafts that are spare.

[@Handmade_at_Harcles]

This has been really useful, particularly showing what to do with your weaving software! I recently downloaded it myself and am still learning to use it, so your video was particularly helpful! Thank-you from a weaver-in-the-making from the UK!

[@Juanelo1946]

Andy, your blue, purple, and yellow tartan pattern is very smart and classy! I love it!

[@curmudgeon66]

+Juanelo1946 Thanks for watching this John, I know I didn't catch any bluegills with all this yarn (fishing line), but I sure am having fun watching the pattern grow as I work my way thru the material, one thread at a time.

[@DameEleanor2]

An excellent video! Thank you for explaining the 4-shaft/8-shaft tie-up. Especially as you did it on Fiberworks, which I have. Made it much easier to digest. i do like this pattern too. A lovely piece of weaving.

[@curmudgeon66]

+Gina Hill I've had Fiberworks for 8 or 9 years now, and find that it is one of the most valuable PC programs which I have ever had (notice I did not say purchased, because the original CD came as a Christmas present from my lovely wife a good number of years ago.). The pattern is one that I made up out of thin air, simply following the rules for creating tartan, and using up what threads I had hiding in a closet just waiting to be used.

[@itiavvershimajoseph7580]

Your videos are more like a practical class room to me. Thank you very much.

[@lesmessbucilova2732]

Thank you for this video. I purchased my first table loom and it sure was nice to see a visual aid to my book on weaving for beginners. Thanks again.

[@curmudgeon66]

I'm happy to know that my video was helpful for you, and congratulations on the purchase of your table loom. I hope you have many many hours of enjoyment weaving on it.

[@frostfox1208]

I just finished my first sample on a four shaft. Thanks for the video! Alan

[@sarahwalker4434]

I really learn a lot from your videos.. Thank you so much for the time you put into making your videos..

[@curmudgeon66]

+Sarah Brown, You are quite welcome Sarah, I enjoy the weaving and sharing what I am doing with others. There are so many useless videos on KZbin, so I try to put up ones that I hope someone will find worth watching.

[@angelabernard2664]

Great video. As a new weaver this was very,very helpful. Thanks.

[@anahradatz6426]

I appreciated your clear explanations. I am getting my first 8 shaft table loom (I have many floor looms) and this simplified the lift process for me!

[@curmudgeon66]

+Anah Armbrust Glad that you liked this. I find that taking things slowly and walking thru the process helps me to understand what I am doing.

[@37homecrafts]

Another great video, very well explained, can't wait to see the end result. Thanks again.

[@annewaller1]

Fantastic video and everything explained really well. I am just starting out so thank you for sharing your expertise. Looking forward to following more of your work.

[@movourneen]

Thanks for the good explanation of using multiple shafts so you don't have to move heddles.

[@annapchelka2706]

Благодарю за ваше видео,,, душа радуется видя таких мастеров ....

[@adamakaru2683]

Thanks for the presentation I did learned a lot thanks again.

[@maureentroake]

From South Africa, thank you for such a clear explanation! At last I “get it”!

[@PidasianHippie]

I love the colors and pattern of this piece. You must be a very patient man or this has taught you patience.

[@curmudgeon66]

+Pidasian Hippie Hahaha, very impatient would be my wife's response, especially early in the morning when I wake up just raring to go. But I must admit, that weaving has taught me how to slow down a bit, as I have learned that "rushing" the process just causes me errors, which in turn makes me go even slower.

[@PidasianHippie]

curmudgeon66 Hahahha! Your response made me think of the video of you cooking breakfast. I think you said you were the only one up at that time.

[@Miss_Judy]

I just love your vids! it is fascinating!

[@curmudgeon66]

thanx

[@oscilis]

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain.

[@annalarsen9446]

Hii, this is many years later after the videos been posted, but I would love to be able to see your floor stand. I have the same table loom and would love a floor stand for it.

[@KaungAungplus]

Hello, thank you for posting this video. I took a weaving class and we used floor looms. I always wanted to get one but my apartment will not accommodate it. Now I can see there are looms that are not so huge and bulky. I do have a few questions if you don't mind answering. Where do you order your looms? Are there limitations like patterns to Table Looms compared to Floor Looms? Again thank you so much for making these videos :)

[@rayphelps-bowman3824]

I love your videos. I also have an Ashford 8-shaft table loom (32"). It is far more loom than I will ever need, but I got it at an excellent price. So far, I have only used my loom to weave scarves and place mats, have only used worsted size yarn and have only used stick shuttles I would like to branch out and weave using thinner threads. I see you using a boat shuttle with the Ashford loom. Could you please comment on when thread size starts to require the use of a boat shuttle and what boat shuttles might work best with this loom? Thanks

[@rebtantillo2409]

Does this work for any pattern, in particularly overshot? Thank you for all your videos.

[@curmudgeon66]

Are you asking does spreading a four shaft pattern across eight shafts work. Yes - any pattern that can be done on four shafts can be spread out to use eight shafts. But you gotta PLAN it out correctly. So imagine you have a four shaft pattern that is 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 . You could have the first set of four remain as 1 2 3 4, but then you have the second set of four be moved to shafts 5 6 7 8, where 1=5, 2=6, 3=7, and 4=8. And as said in the video, you must change your tieup or lift plan accordingly. For overshot you need to be more careful in your planning, but it can be done, remember to have your tabby spread across all 8 shafts. But you still only need 2 treadles for tabby and four treadles for the pattern.

[@RF-nx9pm]

I was wondering if I can ask quite a few questions . . . What boat shuttle length do you use on the Ashford, the slim or regular size? Would 80 heddles per shaft be enough and do you recommend cutting the heddles apart at top and bottom or leave them attached. Dressing the loom b2f or f2b is best? Do you have to use a raddle to dress the loom no matter if you load from either b2f or f2b? The heddle holders, do they need perfectly lined up or can one be slightly higher/lower and still all work? I'm new at table loom so your videos help A LOT. Thanks.

[@curmudgeon66]

This answer applies only to y ashford loom. I use a schacht slim shuttle, with 4 inch bobbin. I have 100 heddles per shaft. I warp f2b, do not use raddle on this loom. The heddles are cut appart. The shafts should be as close as possible to the same height/level.

[@RF-nx9pm]

@@curmudgeon66 Thank your for all the information.

[@MrQeverone]

thank you

[@sandraeasthope3010]

I have a question …. when you are warping you only do one colour at a time. When you take that colour off the warping board do you immediately put it through the cross sticks and on the raddle before continuing to warp the next colour? I would like to try doing it that way and see if it is easier for me as it is for you.

[@barbararickman8543]

You mentioned sleying the reed doubled and that you had to cut a loop and then thread the heddles. How did you warp the board again? I did not quite understand. Mr. Putney has only one reed that is 12 dpi. If I want to do a 24 epi, how would I warp the warping board and get those loops you speak of? bjr

[@Nancy-no7kq]

I really enjoy your videos and find them quite helpful. I'd like to know what software program you use. Thanks!

[@curmudgeon66]

My videos are created with using Cyberlink Power Director 15 on a Windoz 10 PC.

[@suegallo4269]

Love your videos! You may have addressed this somewhere else but I have not seen it , what Weaving Computer program are you using? I really like the look of that program and I would like to get it. In the process of switching from rigid heddle to multishaft loom and I think that program would really help me!

[@curmudgeon66]

Fiberworks PCW Silver www.fiberworks-pcw.com/ my version is a bit out of date, but works great for me so I probably won't update it anytime soon. They have provided great support for the program.

[@johnhenderson1760]

I just came across your channel a couple weeks , and have been enjoying the videos immensely. I love to try weaving, but a loom is out of question anytime soon (although I am getting started doing SOME weaving by building an inkle loom. I have few books, but seeing it done on your videos lets me see what I've read. Anyway, my question is, is that a temple your cloth?

[@curmudgeon66]

Yes - beginning around 12:30 of the video where you see me showing the leaver action, there is a temple sitting on the cloth. Inkle is a very good and inexpensive way to start. My first loom was an inkle that made myself following the pattern in a book which I had picked up for under $20, and the inkle itself was also under $20 from the local big box hardware / home improvement store.

[@jasonreeve661]

can you do a short vid on how levers are attached to the heddle bars

[@WhoisMichelleCollie]

looks like you cut all your heddles apart at the top. its it easier that way to count? I watched ashfords and theres wasn't cut at the top. so just wondering which is easier to count?

[@AREA-sj4ec]

i just found your channel and subscribed. im brand new to weaving and have got my first table loom. question what is that program you are using on the computer and where can i get a copy looks nice. thx jon

[@curmudgeon66]

First of thanks for subscribing, and welcome to the world of weaving. The program that I use is called "Fiberworks PCW" I have the "Silver" edition of it at version 4.1. It is a bit pricey but does fantastic things and is absolutely great for planning weaving drafts. Especially with a table loom, since you can draft as if you had a floor loom and then switch to a "lift plan" for the direct tie-up method used on table looms.

[@NasrinAhady]

thank you for sharing it was helpfull

[@curmudgeon66]

You are quite welcome, glad it helped.

[@elel3797]

Just wondering, when you tie on to the front of the loom, what length of cord do you have.

[@curmudgeon66]

+El El . . . I never bothered to measure it. I suppose a couple yards long. It must be long enough to loop around the tie up piece and then thru about an inch of width of warp and then around the tie up piece again, and so on until we get all warp tied on. I keep re-using the same cord over and over again, but never bothered to measure it.

[@estellelace3402]

I'm hesitate for buy it, it's a good loom? Thanks you

[@curmudgeon66]

It is a good loom! It is good for smaller projects. It is good for experimenting with multiple “treadlings” (no retying of treadles). It is good for taking to work shops. It folds up nicely for storage when not in use or when traveling. But . . . It is not heavy - don't even think of doing rag rugs or Rep-Weave. It is a table loom so you will use your arms more, and that is slower weaving. It doesn't have a shuttle race. Conclusion - Think about what YOU want to weave with it, and YOUR style of weaving. If it matches what you want to do then it is a good loom, if it does not, then get something else.

[@estellelace3402]

@@curmudgeon66 thank you for answer 😊

[@estellelace3402]

@@curmudgeon66 last question sorry, it's a 50cm or 80cm loom?

[@curmudgeon66]

@@estellelace3402 24 inch

[@estellelace3402]

@@curmudgeon66 OK thank. I place my order. 😊😘

[@Jedapoo]

Are these any of the yarns you teased us with in your previous videos?

[@curmudgeon66]

+Jedapoo , no.

[@lyndasnart7823]

🌍🇦🇺👍

[@corthanowphawhawar3092]

Wow

[@oscilis]

The first ashford project asks for 300 ends. I have 60 heddles on each shaft...do I have to take everything apart to put 75 heddles on each of the first four shafts or can I use six shafts using 50 on each? I feel like I am missing somthing obvious. How does one calculate the number of heddles required. Thank you. I will pester you no more!

[@curmudgeon66]

+oscilis There is never one perfect answer to your question. It depends on the pattern, but in general you should be able to more shafts and less heddles per shaft. Probably if it is a 4 shaft pattern, and an 8 shaft loom, I would use all 8 shafts. So plan that what ever the pattern says goes on shaft 1, you put every 2nd of those threads on shafts 1 and 5. Then the shaft 2 threads on shafts 2 and 6, etc. Then in the "treadling" or "lift plan" you must remember to use all 8 shafts where shafts 5 thru 8 do exactly the same as shafts 1 thru 4.

[@rufinocondorihinojosa9749]

Mi estimado ese video me puede mandar en idioma español por favor

[@curmudgeon66]

Ich spreche oder verstehe kein Spanisch

[@curmudgeon66]

No - I can not - if you choose to watch my video, please watch it in English.