Twin sister building to collapsed Champlain Towers South coming under scrutiny from residents an...

Champlain Towers North, an identical condo to the Champlain Towers South building that came down early Thursday morning, is being watched closely by local officials.

[@jimmyrhino6176]

If it was me I'd be moving out of that area asap.

[@thoughtstorn854]

Same.

[@MBMB594]

good luck selling your condo

[@MzCrystal-7]

I would too

[@tsmith682]

Me two out of there

[@copusmultimedia]

@@MBMB594 take the loss and split.

[@samus6256]

If I lived in the sister building and I saw that failing pillar I would never come back.

[@MzCrystal-7]

Right

[@KevinP32270]

BOOM!

[@gayle9428]

Yep. That was alarming right there. Get out, people, while you can.

[@henryottis295]

Totally!

[@sandyhill1392]

Right!?!?! I think anyone who stays is gambling with a potential crushing death.

[@sydnidowney3598]

That building has been sinking for 30 years according to city officials. Three years ago an engineering company flagged all the structural problems with that building but they allowed people to continue to live there? THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

[@tiftyme]

Smh

[@simoncohen4264]

The sinking was 30 years ago things change also the engineers did say there was structural issue three years ago but said that the building has no immediate danger

[@NicoleCorby]

The scary things is that this isn't the only building this happens to. A lot of the million dollar condos in Bal Harbor and Sunny Isles are exactly the same. The contractors become friendly with the inspectors and there you go.... This is not new here.

[@punker4Real]

Here in california they red tag you for tiny speck of dirt in the wrong place

[@carlazinnrigger491]

I think it’s the sinking built on marsh lands and Florida has a big problem with the entire state sinking

[@sassygeorgiapeach]

I would’ve evacuated immediately & probably never set foot in a high rise EVER again! How traumatizing!!! My heart truly goes out to all of the families affected by this tragedy.🙏🏼❤️

[@kellikelli4413]

Good luck living in fear all your life. Do you drive a vehicle (disaster is close) ? Danger is everywhere. In order to live you mustn't dwell on the maybes'.

[@sassygeorgiapeach]

@@kellikelli4413Of course there’s a risk of car accidents but it doesn’t usually cause loss of life on a mass scale & losing all of the personal possessions of 150+ innocent people. Plus, one doesn’t have to “live in fear the rest of their life” meaning 24/7 in every single part of their lives.🙄 It’s a euphemism!

[@johnwatson7343]

Hey beautiful

[@kellikelli4413]

@@sassygeorgiapeach This collapse is RARE that's the point I'm making. People are going bonkers over this RARE tragedy. Devestating tornado 🌪 destruction is much more likely than this collapse.

[@kellikelli4413]

@@sassygeorgiapeach Just think 🤔 40+ years of DEVASTATING hurricanes w/tornadoes in them could have done this, yet no one has mentioned that ~ why..?

[@dawnjohnson8739]

I’d be out of that sister building so fast.....I wouldn’t wait for someone to tell me to leave.

[@jam6636]

but many people have nowhere to go

[@aferg76]

And go where with what money?

[@dawnjohnson8739]

@@jam6636 Maybe. The condos cost a ton of money, right? So, those people have a ton of money, right? So, they can go anywhere, you’d think. Just guessing here. Also, if you’re very materialistic it would be hard to leave your “stuff.” And hard to just “camp” at a lesser place.

[@joecuban8722]

Me to ! Run ,Run ! Away !!

[@KatherineSoriano]

@@aferg76 if you live there, trust me, you have money.

[@desertflower9858]

They wouldn’t have to “order” me to leave that area. Tragic!

[@KevinP32270]

AGREED.

[@gogovideo10]

It's not that easy, though. These are people's homes. A lot of them own their properties and have spent a huge amount of money on them. Where are they supposed to go? Not everyone has someone to fall back on. If I was living there, they would 100% have to order me to leave, and even then, I might still stay.

[@imzackson]

@@bolochongli9267 choke! nobody cares about that rich pos

[@peppapig5298]

@R Go yes, rather than keeping a lookout on your property it’s better to take care of yourself first and take necessary precautions, then afterwards if they inspect the building and it’s “all fine” then you can move back in, but if you stay there and it collapses next, then the one who will now need help is you

[@rosel5107]

Same!

[@xmen9916]

I couldn’t sleep in that area knowing this could happen again.

[@kookyjoeb5524]

Maybe that was part of it……

[@NoName-rm1nv]

Heck no

[@Krazy_Shorts]

Everyone's property values are going to collapse as well..

[@horroRomantic444]

Business people may say regulation kills jobs, but lack of regulation kills lives.

[@Leonnie13]

They need to find a good balance. Heaping tons of nonsense regulations is similar to having no regulations. Examples are when government adds regulations that exist for the sole purpose of providing overpriced jobs to friends and family and businesses willing to line corrupt political pockets. Most politicians have little to no experience in implementing anything. Nor do their family and friends. That is why the DMV, the IRS, etc. can be hard to comply with... their projects are also typically far more expensive and take 10x the estimated time to complete for substandard results. To get contractors in line the government needs to be severe in punishment if crap like this happens.

[@lindsayblair5181]

Exactly

[@mikewhite9818]

A lack of jobs kills many more.

[@louispaquet8185]

Just discover the USA is the richest Third World country, a building collapsing, oil refinery and chemical plant exploding, electrical grid failure in Texas, and the Californian electric grid creating forest fire, most of these things are unheard of in Canada, keep deregulating everything and this will happen.

[@mikewhite9818]

@@louispaquet8185 It is the excessive restrictions placed on business by leftists that has lowered our standard of living. Leftist do not understand free enterprise but they sure do understand Nazi, Communism, and Socialism.

[@gerri577]

who needs an official evacuation? I'd be wise and get out minus any mandates.

[@KevinP32270]

BOOM!

[@annahgibbus8]

@@KevinP32270 SHAKALAKA

[@thatboikam2863]

@@annahgibbus8 boom boom

[@RobimusPrime]

Hell yeah, forget the inspection. I ll GTFO of there.

[@karencarpenter5845]

If it's official you get red cross and fema help..if not you are on your own.

[@khoover8561]

Not just Florida, nation wide residence of highrise condos should start asking questions.

[@carolhutchinson7763]

Florida is full of sink-holes.

[@kookyjoeb5524]

@@carolhutchinson7763 not in south Florida….sheesh

[@pastelskies8466]

Deteriorating infrastructure in the US shouldn't be limited to roads, bridges, power grids. Bldgs too!

[@petero2693]

Funny ....dont inspect for 40 years in beach front salty environment.. dont fix it...then it fails..yes funny...

[@itsnotthesamething]

I wouldn't even stay to collect my things. Only what I could grab on my way out the door.

[@sunlight4169]

Let's not forget the tragic FIU bridge collapse where the warnings were also ignored. Something is very wrong here.

[@SPOT305]

FiU Bridge failure was in part to an all woman team that was hired

[@majav15mg]

@@SPOT305 How’d you know that’s the cause? Where did you get they were all wimminz?

[@REALPLANETXVIDEOZ]

IT'S OK,,,,,,IT WAS JUST A PRANK 😀

[@susanfudge1737]

The I 85 bridge in Atlanta was not an accident. I'm positive something was planned on that.

[@JagoffCitizen]

@@SPOT305 What's your motivation for perpetuating this debunked, silly, misogynistic tripe? One of the two companies responsible for building the bridge - and the focus of the conspiracy theory - is MCM, which is owned and managed by five brothers. MCM’s vice president, manager of general construction and its Texas operations director are all men. In fact, the MCM website page that features key personnel does not include a single woman. -Politifact

[@deplorablegal4078]

I would get the heck outta there!

[@MzCrystal-7]

I would too

[@raywite6665]

I'll give you a dollar for your condo.

[@hozer100]

@@raywite6665 Go ahead, get out! I will buy your condo for pennies, and have a good time living in it.

[@REALPLANETXVIDEOZ]

WHY ? ,,,,,,,,IT WAS JUST A PRANK 😀

[@ericsalles3393]

Its happened apparently. Whatever happens cant be unhappened. Shakespeare said that . No he didnt . Oh yes he did oh no he didnt

[@3ppcli]

I feel like I'm looking at a mass grave. So unnerving. Prays for the souls lost and the Rescue personnel.

[@Just.A.T-Rex]

Cuz u r

[@larryfairbanks1734]

So tired of thoughts and prayers.

[@jnagarya519]

@@larryfairbanks1734 Same here. It's an avoidance of personal responsibility to be attached to reality.

[@petepeter1857]

That's what it is, 150 people didn't fake their disappearance

[@doiron12]

@@larryfairbanks1734 The church likes them because they are followed by tax free cash donations!

[@Mr91495osh]

Move out and forget trying to sell it. If your home insurance doesn’t consider it a total loss, you are screwed!

[@userhandler0tten351]

Yup, my thoughts exactly. Ben Shapiro tried to say that people impacted by these kind of events would have to sell their home and move. What he got wrong is that noone will buy these properties now. The owners will have to cut their losses.

[@nikonmark37814]

When you drain a swamp and then build on it this is what happens. When will people learn from this? Unfortunately people died because of greed and stupidity!

[@SL-lz9jr]

No different than all the buildings on hills that tend to landslide. Or all the homes built on landfill. Or all the homes prone to natural disasters. We want what we want no matter the logic. Weird right?

[@ALT-vz3jn]

@Daniel Rodriguez what? This was an actual swamp that was drained and had landfill. You’re not too bright, are you 🤣🤣

[@TheChimpoko1]

Agreed, this was never land suitable to be built upon. Greed has now cost a few hundred families a lifetime of despair and grief, for loved ones lost to due to this gross level of negligence by the property owners. Otherwise known as slumlords, they keep their tenants living in unsafe, unsatisfactory living conditions, and somehow city ordinances allow it.

[@beanz6795]

I know some of you on here can get testy and sensitive very easily so let me start off by saying that this isn't directed to anyone in particular. This is just a simple post, in general, based on some comments I've read. First, what we have here in South (and Southwest) Florida is called the Florida Everglades, NOT the swamp... and it should be respected AND protected. The Everglades is an important part of the ecosystem and was home to hundreds of Native Americans and wildlife wayyyy before greedy men came here and tried to profit off of the land by building on an area that isn't suitable for commercial activity... So that I agree with completely. Second, Miami Beach (which is where this occurred) is NOT the Everglades, they're two completely different areas. Miami Beach is on the Atlantic side of Florida (as apposed to the Gulf Coast) and there's a BIG clue in the name to what type of area it is. Give up?.. "BEACH". This is on the beach. Not anywhere near the Everglades. Another area where we shouldn't be trying to habitate because we're at sea level and Florida is full of sink holes. Those are just facts. Now, if I lead with emotion, I must say that some of you on here are very rude to others and I don't know why you don't invest your energy into helping those affected by this or being a positive and considerate human. Damn trolls. :)

[@vikkinicholson5880]

@@beanz6795 What happened to the Everglades is a crime. When will the message ever come through that man keeps messing with and destroying perfection. Please stop reinventing the wheel and screwing it up.

[@stoptheviolence3358]

If you live in that sister building get the hell out don’t wait

[@MzCrystal-7]

Right I don't have a good feeling about that one

[@KevinP32270]

say it louder please for the ones that did not hear you in the back. lol.

[@MaxItUpwithMarta]

In MIami, buildings collapse, bridges collapse, and holes open up everywhere. We need to STOP increasing density. Even lifeboats have a limited capacity. The developer greed is too much in Miami.

[@jnagarya519]

Developer greed is everywhere.

[@margueritegastanaga5156]

If Florida gets high with a Cat. 4. It will be a complete disaster. They still put staples on roofs. instead of nails. Everything floods during normal rain. Greedy shady contractors. The Govonor does Nothing.

[@carolhutchinson7763]

This is the first time I've heard of a whole high-rise building collapsing for reasons other than terrorism anywhere in North America. And that includes places that have earthquakes.

[@joyceleadbetter2600]

All those people who had condos worth 500k-1m, in other towers, are now not worth spit.

[@carolhutchinson7763]

@1993: Aw shuddup! Does it ever occur to people who say this stuff that a lot of people worked hard and gave up years of fun time to earn their money? Also, many had to spend decades paying back student loans.

[@sharbymj]

Until people are held criminally liable for overlooking defects and substandard building, greed will always win out. Companies and governments continue to weigh costs and profits over human life.

[@privatejets9992]

Yeah ,..i just noticed something,..the one dude talking from the sister buildings garage,..uh the pillar looked empty inside that gaping crack

[@eagleeye2300]

Case in point: Minneapolis Bridge collapse about 12-15 (?) years ago. The "officials" knew it was faulty and gambled. Many people died.

[@401Impala]

It's every condo owners resposibility to maintain the common areas of the building, no one elses. The condo owners are to blame.

[@sabr4174]

@@401Impala They can’t fix concrete and structural defects though. All they can do is report it and expect the building association to get it fixed. They also rely on local government to send inspectors to make sure the building is safe, particularly in areas where residence can’t go and/or see.

[@401Impala]

@@sabr4174 It's still on the homeowners to follow through and be on top of these sorts of things from day one, not the 11th hour. They are property owners, their property is their responsibility. If they've been trying to get someone out there to address their concerns, there should be a paper trail and that would be a different story if their requests have gone unheard. The building that came down, had engineers and inspectors come out, they were told what needed to be repaired and in some cases had repairs made incompetently and made worse than what they were originally, and other repairs not addressed at all.

[@NoOneHere2Day]

"This doesn't happen in the United State. Building just don't collapse" Didn't it just happen?

[@davebar2017]

Tenents said the garage was in puddles most of the time

[@KevinP32270]

@@davebar2017 that's a huge clue that there is a huge problem.

[@paxundpeace9970]

Reminds me of the video from a few weeks ago when a building in china was rocking because of high wind loads.

[@weldean46]

I guess we live in a 3rd world country now or at least it seems like it, prayers go out for the people lost and killed in this Tragedy

[@eaglewoman3263]

I think they’re implying this sort of thing happens in 3rd world countries, but I get what you’re saying. It’s sad it happens anywhere, but it doesn’t make sense that in a wealthy country this is happening. Again, it shows we have a lot of issues we need to address in our country.

[@seeyeexiong1]

“This doesn’t happen in the United States”……. Ignorant statement….

[@lostharmony27breaker98]

yeh considering the number of structure faliure's in the usa in the past

[@joetine5046]

It only happens when the scumbag govt. Takes out its own people.....

[@joetine5046]

Very well executed implosion and takedown of a building done by professionals funded by govt.

[@ricocheteraw90sthebestdecade]

Go you tube fascinating horrors

[@Sufi_Shadow_Bunny]

So much happens here too. We are not immune. From flint water to govtcorruption. Hurricane Katrina.

[@TheChicagoL]

"This DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES" (1:31).......Really??? What makes people think that this country and it's infrastructure are so great, so "invincible", that this kind of catastrophe can't happen here, especially when you either build on land that provides insufficient support? Or you neglect investing in the necessary maintenance and reinforcement of structures that already exist? "ANYTHING" that is constructed by human hands can fail irregardless of what country it's built in.

[@enveloreal]

see thats where you're wrong. Most buildings now are constructed with the use of machines and tools

[@TheChicagoL]

@@enveloreal Sir, I am looking at the END RESULT, especially with the collapse of this condo, not to mention the death and injury that have been left in the wake this structural failure. We're talking about lives lost or lives being adversely affected, possible forever. I am not the least bit impressed with your lame explanation about how "most buildings now are constructed with the use of machines and tools". My comment STANDS.

[@enveloreal]

@@TheChicagoL They are no longer built with hands

[@poppykok5]

I can't fathom the paralyzing anxiety having to be endured by so many...I imagine all the nearby residents living in high-rise buildings, now must be beyond terrified about their own future safety...Our prayers must continue, & let's not forget to pray for the safety & wellbeing of the brave responders working under such perilous conditions...God bless them all...

[@coasterblocks3420]

Properly enforced regulations will be more useful than thoughts and prayers.

[@poppykok5]

@@bolochongli9267 It takes a lot of G A L L to post a comment about some Hollywood star on THIS video, while not even mentioning this horrific tragedy... How old are you---t w e l v e!!!

[@jnagarya519]

"Thoughts and prayers" are really effective. Note how they've eliminated mass murders by guns? Oh, wait . . .

[@jnagarya519]

@@coasterblocks3420 "God" is obviously a no-show yet again. Yet there are those who continue to invest their lives in that fantasy.

[@jnagarya519]

@Eric Rerrud11 Not all have disposable income.

[@rosewest5168]

They should be looking at all buildings there tbh

[@bamahama707]

And preparing to RUN.

[@oxyfee6486]

With the amount of cocaine and corruption in the eighties,I would bet a lot of corners were cut.

[@kevingunnery5470]

Major wrongful death lawsuits incoming…

[@stuartlee6622]

The Porsche Tower up the road in Sunny Isles Beach has been quivering and groaning.

[@kevingunnery5470]

@@stuartlee6622 that’s a scary situation

[@hymanbjorn6768]

And how many times have those buildings been subjected to the stress of hurricane force winds!?! 🤨

[@nancybreaux9684]

Yes very true.

[@lisayee7695]

A very strong question.

[@kathyyoung1774]

That doesn’t matter if they are built to code. The code takes that into account.

[@hymanbjorn6768]

@@kathyyoung1774 Yet that building is a pile of concrete and rebar for some reason! 🤨

[@artemis1style]

That's so pancaked and flattened. There is little hope anyone survived that 😔

[@user-is7xs1mr9y]

I think that's why the rescuers don't seem to be moving fast enough: this is a recovery mission, no longer a rescue mission. So sad.

[@pollypocket2282]

My father is a retired firefighter here in SoFlo… When it happened he said to me there would be few survivors. He has done search and rescue and said the way it fell there would be little left in terms of remains. I pray for all the family, friends, neighbors and first responders. Such an unnecessary tragedy.

[@billyboy1093]

"Champlain Towers North is being watched closely" Watching does nothing....get those people TF outta there and inspect every inch of that death trap!!

[@bulldog03leatherneck91]

People shoukd not be like monkey see monkey do! Just pack light and leave.

[@kscommentary9710]

@@bulldog03leatherneck91 yeah there’s no way! I would pinch a tent on the beach before I start one more minute in a condo there

[@rosel5107]

Why would you wait around? Those poor people had no idea that would happen to them. I would pack and go!

[@rahla53]

Yeah, we are watching too, it will be very interesting to see the fall, :>(

[@bartonpercival2147]

IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get the F out now!!!!!!!!

[@LisaMarie51968]

I would have moved out immediately, even if I had to store my things and move in with a family member. I pray everyone can move out ASAP, it just doesn’t seem safe on that whole beach area!

[@Kevin-sm8pn]

Ok, then they can wait until the building collapses and not have to worry about where to live since hey will be, you know, not alive.

[@sharonhines3476]

I'd be out, with pets and what I could carry. No item, sofa, TV or whatever is worth anyone dying over, to include the people who would have to move it.

[@dwest889]

The mayor should order their evacuation! This is a moment when people are looking for leadership to tell them what to do with the assurance that they will not be penalized! The few people who would be mad, would just be mad.

[@AwakenedStars]

You pretty as hell n smart

[@kwhite2743]

Who needs to be told to evacuate? It’s called common sense.

[@supmaidoods8753]

@@kwhite2743 some people need the government to tell them what to do

[@Sgt_Bill_T_Co]

I don't think I'd need anyone else to tell me to move out...

[@joebird1400]

@@supmaidoods8753 tell them to breath?

[@lisabrygger4869]

Wondering how many buildings are in that state of disrepair.

[@sarahconner9433]

Ohh Lisa..... Lots and lots and lots and lots... How are you? Spiritually, I mean?

[@skillz9549]

I do food delivery. This morning I went into a high-rise. Haven’t been so scared in a while. I saw all types of cracks in the foundation. Got out of there like the Road Runner

[@feces305]

Glad you made it out.

[@dawnjohnson8739]

Yup. I never liked high rises, elevators in tall buildings......and this event just solidified my views on the matter. Hope you can get another job where you don’t have to go into high rises!!!!

[@toniwilson8212]

SkiLLZ 954 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Miamistreetinterviews]

Deny orders in those high rises. Sorry not sorry, your safety should be #1

[@fladave99]

Big problem is that condos dont do the maintenance. Owners dont want to pay. What would they pay now? It failed waterproofing. Water gets into concrete, rots the rebar. Eventually it will fail

[@themerrigans2734]

The banks holding the mortgages on these condos are screwed. No one, living, will pay a penny after that horror show.

[@DS-tj2jc]

Insurance going through what used to be the ROOF!!

[@williamsimmons152]

I see all kinds of bankruptcies coming……nobody will be charged.

[@susanfudge1737]

The buildings should have been paid for years ago.

[@darlenewells3309]

@@susanfudge1737 you also have the one's who buy a condo unit. They have mortgages too..not only the main condo building!

[@mashakalinkina7207]

Gross.

[@Frankyouknow]

We need to 🙏 for everyone affected by this tragedy.

[@industrys4092]

@@bigmike1850 think of a broader theme of hope with prayer, not these stupid fantasies you come up with to try and bash people praying for the well being of others

[@Frankyouknow]

@@bigmike1850 Just Wow!

[@carolhutchinson7763]

Fund raising for the survivors would be more helpful. These poor people have only the clothes on their backs, maybe not even that if they were in sleep clothes or the shower or pool, and they have no money, no ATM cards, no credit cards. They are homeless in the summer heat with nothing.

[@Frankyouknow]

@@carolhutchinson7763 By praying God will provide.

[@Sgt_Bill_T_Co]

I'm sure praying will get rid of the rubble. FFS if people put as much time and effort into others as they do worshipping false idols things would be a damn sight better.

[@peterpann9619]

It's called inspectors getting kickbacks for looking the other way when the contractors were cutting building materials.

[@crisfranco4717]

The city should be relocating EVERYONE who resides in the area. The indicated geological conditions that contributed to this disaster are actively occurring to all the foundations of those high-rises along the Florida coastline. As demonstrated, critical failure happens without warning and to tragic ends. Evacuate the area now.

[@sct4040]

If I live in an apartment in the twin building, I would have left already. No need to wait for government to relocation me.

[@77jaycube69]

Agreed. Better safe than sorry.

[@goingaboutmyfathersbusines4359]

Absolutely agree..

[@michaelgrabianowski6567]

Unfortunately they had plenty of warning and time. I'm sure we will find out that incompetence and corruption at the highest levels of government in this banana state was a main factor .

[@7531monkey]

We dont just panic and rip people out of their homes in this country. We need investigations not guesses.

[@tenerifecats6652]

‘Buildings don’t collapse in the US’. Well, now they do. We just take it for granted that codes are strictly being enforced. How many other buildings have gone ‘undetected’ as having issues that could cause catastrophic failure? 40 year recertifications?? That is a lifetime in high rise building safety!

[@Thepuggleparty]

Amen

[@bamahama707]

Just like bridges.

[@hamfistsman6267]

But....but....FREEDOM!

[@samsmith3025]

Sure they do, there has been a number of various structure failures in the US.

[@bolochongli9267]

Free britney Leave britney alone!!!

[@sierradenson1585]

Reminds me of something that happened 20 years ago..that also had a twin building.. looked like a detonation

[@nicolestewart2274]

@@garymurphree7402 What exactly would any of the aforementioned individuals gain from this? Especially since when the buildings on 9/11 came down, a Republican was President, and he got to start a war.

[@scarpfish]

Conspiracy theorists are morons, and this is yet another example.

[@ghetta7794]

Unfortunately the way the building fell, it basically pancaked everyone between floors of concrete. It's very unlikely they will find anyone still alive at this point. Prayers to the families who still haven't found there loved ones.

[@larainyday964]

Aw, the teenage boy they found, he was trying to get out - he was probably one of the few people awake at 2 am bc of his age, he said his mom was with him, she was killed.

[@russlehman2070]

I'm afraid you are right. On top of that, there have been fires burning in the debris pile. I will be pleasantly surprised if they find even one person alive in the rubble.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

The concrete is spalling because the reinforced steel is rusting and expanding which = weakness in the structure

[@charlottemartin4850]

Metal probably from China

[@chrissmith7669]

@@charlottemartin4850 forty years ago? Doubt it.

[@boataxe4605]

Add to that a sinking foundation due to soft land.

[@danieljones317]

Might be the type of rebar. Did they use the epoxy coated stuff?

[@Dog.soldier1950]

@@danieljones317 built in 1980 I think epoxy coated came along much later

[@freeagent2207]

Yep the twin is going sooner or later. That picture the resident took is similar to the pictures pulled from the engineers assessment of the collapsed building in 2018 cracks in the cement and rebar exposed to potential water expansion. Please get those people out of there

[@poeticnation6251]

So true - Well said.

[@davidgray8089]

That lone picture was not overly concerning as that concrete looked like it was added over the existing, perhaps to cover and protect the electrical outlet from damage. When we pour structural columns they are poured monolithically, which means the whole corner would have blown out, not just a one side of the corner. Problem is that I cannot tell if that cover was poured over just for the electrical or because there was damage to what is behind it but I haven't seen structural repairs done that way if it was that. Not much use in speculating without a complete set of structural drawing and specs, although with some detailed and well lit photos we could at least get a bit of knowledge.

[@luvbig41]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@bamahama707]

One hopes the residents of that doomed tower have the sense to GET OUT, NOW...

[@vickierichter7850]

This didn’t happen by accident. Wake up folks. Distraction is what this is.

[@moses7101]

And what distraction might that be?

[@randyneilson7465]

CLS - Crazy Lady Syndrome

[@privatebubba8876]

LMAO another moron tossing their 2 cents worth in.

[@garymurphree7402]

Thank you. Someone is awake in america.

[@garymurphree7402]

@@moses7101 anything to distract us from the border. Ask Harris. She's "been" there. Though she hasn't been to europe.

[@codyflowers8758]

This is a failure on the city inspectors for not doing there jobs. Someone got payed to look the other way

[@nancybreaux9684]

Exactly.

[@yolorodriguez4794]

That's what I'm thinking, we have examples of what corruption has done for infrastructure in other countries. How many times has a mall or event space collapsed only to find out corrupt leadership was responsible?

[@sarahconner9433]

Not about money..... It's about luciferians....

[@yolorodriguez4794]

@@sarahconner9433 oh wow, do you know any luciferians? Where did you learn this?

[@sarahconner9433]

YOLO, i have always looked for god, prayers and magic.....On the way i found luciferians...prolly 1/1000 people are.....Yes I know allot... You prolly know allot also... They just don't trust anyone enough with life and death or risk to let you know...... They do everything in secret code.... All is secret...I was in love with a luciferian and they confessed to me because of love.....I like luciferians.... up Until the killing of innocent people for no reason part... Im a white high wizard now......There are many sparkling facets of a diamond and many facets to insanity, and many facets to god.... 1 facet is a little piece of god inside you..... And I see it's very beautiful.... Thank you....your sparkle gives me hope...

[@FM-nm4ng]

What the city needs to do is find out who built that building 40 years ago. Then, find and inspect every other building that those builders made in order to see if they are all structurally sound. My hypothesis is that the builders cut corners to save some money during the build. If that ends up being the case, everything else they've built over the years is now suspect as well.

[@cpnotill9264]

8

[@richardkey4289]

& what about the inspectors that passed these bldgs

[@whackamolechamp]

One report I heard is that the same builder used the same design to build other buildings in the area.

[@richardkey4289]

@@whackamolechamp yikes, the city should be checking this stuff out, because it's their duty, & also to prevent massive legal action coming their way, if just one thing gets revealed that they overlooked something, it could be a huge liability. I'm sure everyone is efforting to reduce / remove legal culpability

[@quaithom3138]

All those builders, commissioners and greedy folks are in nursing homes now.

[@martinezfrederic1]

I wouldn’t hesitate to get out especially if they were made with the similarities and the same age of the Champlain. Get yourself, family, pets, important things and get out! If they live in those buildings by the beach then they have the money to stay with family, friends, hotel, motel.

[@KevinP32270]

AGREED.

[@usa5046]

👍

[@lextacy2008]

how are they going to get the hell out during this nasty housing market ?

[@dizcret]

Anyone know when those buildings were built?

[@oxyfee6486]

There was a lot of cocaine and corruption in the eighties,you can bet a lot of corners were cut to increase profits.

[@thomascrane7547]

They wouldn’t have to evacuate me. I would be the hell out.

[@theyredistortingyourrhthym126]

How about them flashes.

[@barbarapeller]

If the engineers don't know what happened to the building and why it collapsed how do they know if the surrounding building won't do the same? I would get out, better to be safe than sorry.

[@CulturedThugPoster]

Build high rise building on a giant sandbar ... how could this possibly happen !! Still someone is rubbing their hands with a plan for new fancy high rise condo's that are 'safe' as the main selling point.

[@kingofthedots3835]

It's happening all over Florida ....It's in the bible ....if you build on sand you will be desolated !.....Smart Architects 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@christinerose4839]

@@kingofthedots3835 you are so right I don’t have any degrees but I have lots of common sense

[@kingofthedots3835]

@@bolochongli9267 I'm with you brother !!!!

[@kingofthedots3835]

@@christinerose4839 you will go far grasshopper 🦗🙂

[@annahgibbus8]

"Only a foolish man builds his house on sand" Matthew 7:26

[@oriusnicolas5327]

When it comes to Champlain Towers North, remember what they say: " If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck".

[@kombaijoe]

What if it hops like a bunny rabbit?

[@IQscan51]

@@kombaijoe Come on dude.

[@mamatboy84]

Oh, I thought that it was a goose. My bad...

[@blardymunggas6884]

Bad planning and poor construction.

[@davidgray8089]

@@talos2373 ...and trump would lose track of what he was talking about mid sentence, what's your point, Princess?

[@whalesong999]

Just observing, anyone else not comfortable with patio slabs jutting out without more cantilever support?

[@aheimdahl5201]

I noticed that too.

[@Splexsychiick]

No not really. They are hopefully reinforced with steel. If done right they should be very secure.

[@rblxgirlie]

Made me uncomfortable as well

[@whalesong999]

"Hopefully reinforced" and "done right" - invisible qualities. Yes, I'm sure they are reinforced but to the naked eye just how well it is done is an unknown. It's the feeling I get when I see them I'm referring to; I get uncomfortable no matter what reassurances they are safe. It's a gut issue, not an intellectual one. I had friends and acquaintances close to the building processes when I lived in the vicinity of NYCity. What goes on to get permits and how the inspectors function with the temptations of graft is a swirl of energy that makes your stomach ache if you're centered around being scrupulous in your endeavors. It's pretty raw. So much of it about "the cost of doing business" and all the pit falls of that. I'd be way more comfortable if there was a triangulated beam, even a small one, at the sides to help support these slabs. These buildings give me the 'willies' considering they're so near the ocean. Captive beams in concrete would need some thorough consideration of their longevity, they'd deteriorate if not well protected.

[@greyjay9202]

Land sinking, lack of inspection, failure to correct defects, vibration from nearby foundation construction, building design -- it all adds up.

[@russlehman2070]

It kind of looks like, like a lot of accidents, there was a long list of failures that finally reached the point of no return.

[@phucknaw2104]

Whats the word on the people trapped in the rubble? We keep hearing about the integrity of structures and finger pointing but not mentioning anyone else getting pulled out just makes me think that theyre just pulling corpses out at this point. So sad that this happened this way to people who were just living their lives.

[@rt3box6tx74]

Compare the supposedly sophisticated approach to search and rescue of the modern world with the frenzy of activity when this happens in 3rd world nations? If I was under that rubble I'd want some guys in sandals digging like badgers with their bare hands

[@annafdd]

@@rt3box6tx74 There is nobody alive down there. They keep digging because you have to, until you have found the last corpse, and somebody might have been incredibly lucky. But you can see what’s left of the building between the roof and the ground: it’s not even rubble, it’s powder.

[@latyshal.2286]

@@annafdd You may be right. 😞 God be with the families and loved ones of the victims. I pray for a miracle that more survivors are found. 🙏🏾

[@rt3box6tx74]

@@annafdd Those who are dead won't get any deader... and perhaps those incredibly lucky one's luck will hold on. I'm concerned about ppl who've survived, but have limited stamina to live buried for a week while professional search teams work on their Union schedule.They NEVER tell us about the ppl who died after 3 or 4 days under the rubble, do they?

[@marylandgirl9246]

I see a team of people standing on the rubble itself. Earlier they said they heard no voices or knocking sounds. It looks pretty bleak honestly.

[@joelglaze5545]

I'd be moving out quickly if I lived in any of the other buildings

[@gigiskitties499]

All those other condo owners are screwed as no one will buy their homes, or maybe buy for pennies on the dollar.

[@chrisbrown8640]

And Now folks.....the Collapsable Condo ! A real break through in building Technology !

[@romalohk3405]

Huge earthquakes hit mexico all the time and when something like this goes down EVERYONE is helping take rubble off piece by piece the fact that the cops are just driving around and chillin sitting in the car with the ac blasting is crazy. They do this thing where they all stay very quiet for a few seconds and prior to that they yell out for survivors to scream for help or make any noise they can. Even the pups they have are savages they need to get them down to Miami to show them how it's really done!

[@romalohk3405]

@John Beige oh yeah man alot of overtime and free food they take their sweet time and they still look like heroes at the end. Its Miami do you know how much cocaine money has been seized! We have the resources but no one realizes they arent doing enough!

[@granmabern5283]

They are not used to having collapses. They get hurricanes, not earthquakes. Yes, I saw reports where all the neighbours chip in to help in Mexico. Awesome!

[@granmabern5283]

ROMALOHK! I got that part. Yes, it’s earthquakes in Mexico. And yes, it would be awesome if Mexican experts could help out in Florida.

[@romalohk3405]

@@granmabern5283 I see what you where saying now I apologize! At the end of the day it's about the people stuck under that hell. Hope they are all saved🙏🏼

[@freeatlast9741]

I agree and glad to hear some else mention this. They should have had people removing blocks from the very beginning. A lot of standing around on top of the pile. Cranes in my opinion are not ideal. Should have something like those big gigantic claws they have in salvation yards. They've wasted to much time already. They just don't have the experience in Miami. Not saying they can save everyone and Not saying there not trying but to little to late in my opinion.

[@goforgold7082]

From being worth millions to a worthless heap of rubble in 3 seconds

[@costamesa22]

The man asking the structural engineers to come just feet down the street for an inspection is very reasonable. Especially with the evidence of clear damage to what look 👀 to be structural support beams in the parking structure. Absolutely a rational and valid request.

[@majordeezee1659]

We have all inspected it. In real time. Just now. Conclusion? 👀 let’s vote 🗳.

[@marylandgirl9246]

@@majordeezee1659 That one pillar looked terrible. Whatever's inside is exposed to the salt air. I wouldn't wait to be evacuated, especially seeing that type of disrepair.

[@copusmultimedia]

He'd be wise to start packing.

[@KevinP32270]

SISTER BUILDING? i'm leaving that place EXPEDITIOUSLY AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED LOLOL.

[@adrianaboga8361]

You'd see me, speeding down the same highway, too.

[@jnagarya519]

@@adrianaboga8361 And ending up dead in a multi-vehicle car pileup.

[@KevinP32270]

@@jnagarya519 you are out of control lolol.

[@adrianaboga8361]

@@jnagarya519 Nooo! That was half- joking. I do not like to, or actually, speed. 😂

[@arizonaunplugged-neilbrook9509]

Such a tragedy can’t even begin to imagine how painful it has to be for the family members left behind…..Why governor DeSantis isn’t calling for an immediate evacuation of the rest of the buildings pending inspections is beyond me…

[@sarahconner9433]

My little friend....(sadly)...there are these people.... That enjoy this.....

[@johnekopy]

Probably because they don't know the exact cause yet. What if the inspectors were wrong on many other buildings or something is wrong with the ground terrain in that area, etc. Until they know for sure I think they're being extra cautious.

[@Nikki-bk1wf]

@@johnekopy being extra cautious would be telling them to get out to not risk their lives 🙄

[@883tom]

I' glad that I live in Wyoming, a state with a total of two elevators.

[@sandywhite1550]

Wyoming has it’s own problems to contend with. Good luck. The Yellowstone Caldera, sometimes referred to as the Yellowstone Supervolcano, is a volcanic caldera and supervolcano in Yellowstone National Park in the Western United States. The caldera and most of the park are located in the northwest corner of Wyoming. Wikipedia

[@Peace-lr7mt]

People living there should get out immediately and start with going after whoever signed off on the inspections.

[@privatejets9992]

uh ,..THAT would be the greedy Democrats and Rino Repubs in South fla

[@eaglewoman3263]

Yes. I hope people can get their families and pets out quick before anything else happens. I can’t imagine the fear and anguish knowing it could collapse, too. I really hope someone will be held accountable because it’s always the citizens that’s suffer. 🙏💔

[@stephanieadams3747]

What are you talking about? The building was just getting ready for repairs to pass inspection.

[@stephanieadams3747]

There was an engineering assessment done in 2018. The condo board didn't act on any of the concerns. Whoever was on that board is going to be sued.

[@stephanieadams3747]

@@privatejets9992 You have inject politics in everything? Get a life.

[@arthurbeowulfe7339]

I can almost guarantee it's the pillars holding up the floors in the parking area

[@KevinP32270]

i think so as well.

[@gordonmculloch4904]

Have to agree. @ 1:50 It looks like some serious problem with that column.

[@normanbaril8024]

Looks like missing rebar , should have rebar 2inchs within edge of concrete , unless its another design im not aware of.

[@karencarpenter5845]

2018 structural engineer said pool was build incorrectly, leaking underground parking soaking pillars. 2019 2020 20213 years kaboom.

[@a990dna]

@@normanbaril8024 that square column in the sister building shown in the video, appears to be hollow and has electrical and perhaps water service running through it. What's the building code for a column like that?

[@adamantman3200]

I think that they need to investigate the intact portion of the building. Why is it still standing?

[@nickbeakburg5704]

We should all probably start looking at our buildings and make sure they are up to code so this doesn’t ever happen again

[@threeshocks5769]

No two thoughts about it, I couldn't imagine living in any building with in ear shot of this tragedy and not be unnerved 😕 And seriously be considering moving into something at ground level with nothing above.! God bless those poor souls that never had a chance.🕯️🙏

[@jnagarya519]

Your "God" should act AFTER the fact? Re-evalute your belief system.

[@threeshocks5769]

@@jnagarya519 May the birds of paradise fly up your nose too and leave my God out of it, because unless you know your any better than any one else on this Earth. your just as poor a soul as the rest of us.! Stay twisted in your mind but remember in the end those poor souls that didn't make it out of this tragedy are in a much better place!

[@mannysd6191]

"This doesn't happened in the United States. Buildings don't collapse"... oh the irony

[@ilovesuisse1]

That’s what they said about the Titanic, unsinkable. Yeah, right.

[@MG-ot2yr]

Its the typical exceptionalism here in the US, people think we're immune to other worldly problems, when in fact with some things we have more of, like violent crime. Its a lot of ignorance.

[@jam6636]

and is not true either, they just forgot about other building collapses that have happenes not so long ago or the fact that they spend hours talking about "failing infrastructure" but are surprised by what happened here. So disingenuous.

[@richardbowers3647]

Little bit of lawlessness = a lawless society!!! Check it out?

[@sicsempertyrannis4104]

Miami isn’t part of the United States anymore stupid 😂

[@desolategrey]

It's quite common for owners of properties to do the minimal upkeep while charging the maximum rent and rarely ever even setting foot on the properties then they pass the hassle of dealing with the structure up keep on a maintenance manager and then give that very maintenance manager zero budget for"maintenance"

[@simoncooper4937]

THEY SHOULDNT BLOCK OFF THE AREA!!! They should be allowing help from all over the place and let people in to help dig through that rubble there are so many people on accounted for that are suffering under that rubble they can use all the help they could get this is crazy and very sad!!!

[@jimz508]

40 years between re- certification? That's way too long.

[@arthurbeowulfe7339]

You all might want to get some geologists out there too to inspect the ground in that area

[@sarahconner9433]

You might want to get some "hostess twinky" Salesman out there.....

[@MichaelRose87]

Evacuate the other building, until a thorough investigation is complete

[@margaretdell25]

Could you imagine what lower Manhattan looked like when the towers went crumbling down. I remember all the news footage and sobbing all the time. This is a very sad tragedy that in all likely could have been prevented. Pray for the Souls and just hope they did not suffer.

[@kineahora8736]

Yes I do-those were 110 story buildings and two of them. This was one 13-story building. Big difference, but similarly upsetting despite the former essentially being an act of foreign war on our soil.

[@gayemarianesfox2405]

In CA our prayers are with all those in Florida

[@marquamfurniture]

As you mentioned California.... I can't help but think of Millennium Tower in SF. One good quake shake and it's over.

[@justsayin6602]

Fault lines are along Florida coast. A military aircraft carrier did set off a bomb a few days earlier setting off a near four earthquake that was felt on the coast,,,,,, wondering if underground the vibrations could have traveled, triggering the collapse?

[@constancegomez351]

Good point!

[@5DNRG]

...and that darn Bermuda Triangle.

[@mr.majestic2667]

Salt is very corrosive like acid it ate away at the steel became brittle then ruptured over 40 yrs every older condo building on the sand is in similar condition .

[@ciaranbyrne62]

@@mr.majestic2667 I wonder if these buildings have a life expectancy?

[@SoFloPatriot]

I saw that too

[@Lisa-xz1yp]

In Florida, by the water...I'd worry about the salt, sand, and wind, especially in a highrise.

[@Regular689]

But the view is to die for 🥺

[@ron4501]

A resident called her husband as the building shook and told him that she was witnessing the pool collapsing. She is still unaccounted for. The pool is built over the garage and integrated into the building's support pilings. This answers lots of questions yet I hear little about this woman's eye witness account. IF you look at video of the pool, there is no water in the pool.

[@jillianrenee2769]

If I lived in that building I would already be out. Nobody would have to tell me to evacuate.

[@401Impala]

It's up to the condo owners to make sure their Condo association keeps up with repairs.. You want the engineers to come look at your building? PAY HIM/HER.

[@adawnhowell9256]

Lesson from the past: If or when the South Tower falls, beware its North Tower twin.

[@russlehman2070]

Well this time the South Tower didn't even need to have a plane flown into it.

[@CloveCoast]

Suspicious how cleanly the collapsed parts came off, and so quickly.

[@tarikterzic6125]

Conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork whenever theres a tragedy, particularly if it involved collapsing buildings.

[@wakeupsaudiiii]

@@tarikterzic6125 exactly, like calm down, people died

[@calbob750]

Looks like the surviving portion of the building has the same first floor parking area supported by concrete pillars. Time to move.

[@dimpletoadfoot8631]

That north building looks like it's leaning, doesn't it?

[@jlou3579]

Yes it look that way to me

[@bunnytail1370]

Yes, looks like it will collapse once the other rubble is moved.

[@JuanCarlos49086]

I would have been out of that "sister building" days ago. Just look at the damage in the garage area! Crazy to remain there waiting for an evacuation order. Hard to sleep at night for those people still in the sister building. Yes, enforce those codes and investigate. I read an engineer said there was likely some structural damage stemming from the pool area. He said it years ago and no action was taken. I guess a raise in HOA dues was needed to accomplish that and perhaps the condo owners there were not ready for such an increase. Now, I don't even know if this was ever discussed in one of their meetings, but it should have been brought to their attention. I love residential high rise buildings with a sea view, but the codes need to be enforced to the max. Make sure no one is bribed and build well. Some developers are just desperate to sell, the sooner the better. Just consider that some of those people who lost their lives and or homes paid over a million dollars in some cases for one of those apartments. Those were high priced units.

[@fonhollohan2908]

I don't know why they keep talking about maintenance being done on a roof as a cause for this collapse. High rises get roofs replaced all the time. There is no way that Roof maintenance caused this building to collapse. I watch a previous video where they said that engineers took noticed that a chasm had formed underneath the garage and if that is true that would certainly play a role in this horrific tragedy.

[@quaithom3138]

Didnt they have several pieces of roof materials weighing 1600 pounds each lying on the roof?

[@Melissa.712]

1:49 given what just happened a couple days prior and then seeing this in the garage.... I would get out immediately especially being told that it's a "sister building"

[@sonofhibbs4425]

IKR!!!?? Is there anything of substance in that pillar?

[@movingforward.]

I wouldn't stand there!

[@ronkali5365]

@@sonofhibbs4425 Only the stirrup is holding that column up in the sister bldg not if but when it fails i hope the bldg is empty

[@movingforward.]

@@sonofhibbs4425 styrofoam

[@quaithom3138]

The people in the next builiding should get their valuables and get out of there. Leave furniture behind.

[@shark5919]

Hasn't anyone looked at sink holes as the cause? They are all over FL.

[@crowredeye8066]

I was wondering that, too.

[@annafdd]

I don’t think the terrain is right for sinkholes there. You need a cavity to form underground.

[@plainlybasic2300]

@@annafdd Nearly all of Florida is perfect for sinkholes, it's just a giant marshland. That said, these buildings are right on the waterfront, a sinkhole is even more likely

[@jnagarya519]

@@plainlybasic2300 Shifting sands of a sandbar.

[@christyguerrero6503]

Most of Miami dade county is limerock not sand. But it’s basically coral so it can erode over time and Miami Beach and the surrounding areas has been flooding every year for at least ten years. So the salt water infiltration is probably causing some of these structural issues.

[@ananmai8700]

The Building Never Build to "HOLD" so much peoples, They build it with the cheapest materials, Miami-Dade County Probability never had an inspections

[@talapeanutbutter4250]

That twin sister North tower needs to be evacuated now! It has structural damages in the bottom pillars!

[@lorenzoharrison3615]

This tragedy reminds me of grenfell tower in London, my city. The only difference is these are wealthy people which doesn't make it easier on them losing love ones.

[@meymay11]

Honestly I assumed these were low income apartments when it first happened.

[@jnagarya519]

@@meymay11 There are some who paid their only savings for condos. Some of them actually work for a living.

[@pamveeee]

@@meymay11 same 😬

[@sarahconner9433]

Oh Lorenzo....grenfell towers london....not an "accident"... And neither was this.....

[@blessed6327]

They should bring down the entire twin building.

[@marquamfurniture]

Easy for you to say. In reality that building is the collective home of many owners. It represents their investment and mortgages like home owners anywhere. They couldn't unload it now for any price.

[@skliros9235]

@@marquamfurniture it's the mentality like yours, which is why this building fell and people died.

[@scrapcash2421]

@@skliros9235 The Twin Towers fell in NYC. It didn't make every building around it unsafe and have to be taken down. They need to be inspected, they MAY or MAY NOT be good. Your mentality is horrible. Using emotions to make decissions, instead of FACTS & EVIDENCE!! You can tell the Marxist a mile away!! Let's throw out the whole city because "I FEEL LIKE" it's unsafe!!! You have no mentality!!!

[@marquamfurniture]

@@skliros9235 Oh sure!

[@kcook8119]

That would be stupid if it doesn't have any failures detected.

[@constancegomez351]

I will never live in a building that has no more than 3 floors

[@differentlyrome9732]

we r livig in dubai on 90th floor so scary

[@amtrakhiawathafan3609]

I live in apartment complex that has three floors. That condo had more floors than this apartment complex has. Glad that I don't live in surfside Florida

[@joleda56]

So proud of you Andrew Perez!!! Thank you for keeping the composure to report during this horrifically painful time!!

[@adrianaboga8361]

I'd like to hear about any progress, on saving anyone possibly trapped..🥺😟😒

[@SumAnonymousAcapella]

Whoever the contractors and building owners are affiliated with this.... I do not want any of YOUR property!!! Hell no.... I wouldnt even work with your management company!!!

[@sandybird5785]

3 yrs ago inspectors found problems,the city is as guilty of neglect as are the contractors,and owners. I bet the owner got a copy of the inspectors finding and lt went in the desk drawer. City didn't follow up inspector didn't follow up on it owner stayed quiet, thought it would be forgotten and all would be well. The families of these people will sue and probably end up with nothing.

[@kinky_Z]

Thanks. I was wondering about this.

[@patriciajohnsonson8639]

If I lived anywhere near there, I would abandon my home, take my cat/dog/ ferrets, whatever, quit my job and move in with my family somewhere far away from there. I would restart my life somewhere else. Life is too short to wait until the inspections are complete. It is too risky.

[@joshyoon]

The real estate market there finally crashed... literally.

[@Haitian1130]

Lol

[@sachad964]

the last building to come down, the pillars in the lower areas like the car park gave way, you can see it roll to the side before collapsing but the upper stories were still intact, they may need to investigate soil erosion which may have caused extra stress on the lower pillars, also it could be age and time and if over that time extra weight added which could have overstressed the pillars like new lifts and ac units or motors on the roof. they showed a pillar that is cracked away if thats from the other building, thats a very bad sign

[@jansonshine9082]

Seas level rise. It's happening all over south Florida & all coastal areas. While this is a huge tragedy it should not be a surprise. Most of these buildings are steel-reinforced concrete- to meet hurricane building codes. Unfortunately, the rebar can degrade from saltwater exposure- unless waterproofed. The buildings built in the 80's had different standards.

[@russlehman2070]

It's too soon to be certain that it wasn't a sinkhole or some other failure in the ground below the building, but I would bet that it is the structure itself that failed, due to water penetration, corroding rebar and spalling concrete. I would also not be a bit surprised if it turns out the concrete was not up to specifications also.

[@gmillerny]

The surveillance video that was given to the public starts AFTER the building had already begun to fall. Why was it edited? What was at the beginning of the video? Were there flashes and lights? Detonations? Who edited the video? Where is the unedited video? People said they heard a bomb.

[@annafdd]

A bomb is not enough to bring that much building down. The Alfred Murray building was gutted, but stayed up.

[@elle5031]

My thoughts exactly. I pray that everyone gather pets and important papers...and get the hell out until all buildings in the area are checked...and help people in every way to get relocated. Florida needs to ask for emergency money if it has not already been given.