TwinPower SW Review/Teardown. Save Your Money...

The Shimano TwinPower SW brings a ton of technology to the table. Is the TwinPower a slightly watered down version of a Stella SW or is it a slightly beefed up Shimano Saragosa SW-A? Is the TwinPower worth the money $$$? This Shimano Saltwater Spinning reel gets completely torn down part by part and I cover what every part does and what I like and what I don't like. Overall I will detail differences with: TwinPower SW vs Stella SW and TwinPower SW vs Saragosa SW-A. Let me know what you think of this TwinPower SW teardown review.
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[@viper2788]

Perfect timing, I just ordered this and started watching reviews lol Keep em coming!

[@RyanMorie]

Definitely more coming in the future!

[@727joeyg727]

when your doing reel teardowns, do you have flashbacks of being in the military tearing down your rifle? lol

[@RyanMorie]

The rifle was definitely simpler and easier to work with haha!

[@raleighthomas3079]

@@RyanMorie “ Without my reel, I am useless. Without me, my reel is worth a few hundred bucks.” LOL! Semper Fi!

[@mrbamboo23]

What do you guys think about Penn authority vs twinpower

[@franciscodreyer3736]

@@RyanMoriehi man, what grease do you use for service this twin power or any other reels? Thank you

[@brinkee7674]

Glad I got my Twin Power when I did. I got mine years ago from Japan and it has a completely different handle setup. Never had an issue with mine and it's been through hell and back. Is it sealed up like a Van Staal or ZeeBaas, No but it's the next best thing below a Stella, along with half the $ of those I mentioned. You call that over greasing? We would pack the body, this way if the is any sw intrusion there is little room for that water. My Twin Power didn't just get wet, it got dunked repeatedly.

[@maasai-]

I have both stella 6000hgc n tp 8000 hgc , tp just as good as stella , casting n durablity is so identical , n less parts , shouldn’t be as twice gosa price but it is noticebly better , alittle bit better in over all torque ,castibility n water protection , worm gear osc is just a winner any day vs locomotive one ,for those who pay high attention to their average longer distance casts. Btw nice review with this great reel , we r here blessed with GTs n tp is a true working horse .

[@The-Fin-Factor]

Great review! Twin Power SW sure is gorgeous, and I believe that much better value than Stella!

[@RyanMorie]

I kind of drool a little when I stare at it too long 🤣

[@The-Fin-Factor]

@@RyanMorie 😁

[@AMLuc1320]

Ryan I really enjoyed your tear down and comparison to Stella/Gosa. With Tackle Advisor gone and Alan Hawk doing less reviews, you’re keeping the tackle junky in me satisfied! Next we need a 21 Certate SW review v 20 Saltiga. 👍🏼

[@RyanMorie]

Thank you! It's an honor to be mentioned next to two people who really inspired me in this industry!

[@AMLuc1320]

@@RyanMorie No worries mate.Watching from Australia 🇦🇺

[@77jaycube69]

What happened to Tackle Advisor?

[@eves08109]

Just stopped making vids.

[@Distantttt]

@@77jaycube69 he got a job at a major tackle company.

[@Yankees_1996]

A quick temp fix for noisy bearing while you wait to new bearing to replace that noisy bearing. Soak the bearing in WD-40 in a bottle cap, so the bearing sits under the level of the WD-40. It will break down the oxidation. Then you can fish while you wait for the near bearing. Continuing problem bearings, I replaced with ceramic.

[@unsalkarhan346]

Hi Ryan I need an expert opinion on a problem I'm having with my Twin Power 8000 PG. While checking the drag of the Twin Power SW-C 8000 pg I just bought, I realized that it was still a bit tight even when the drag was loosened to the end. Then I compared it with the 10000 pg I have. By the way, I know that the 10000 pg has a slightly different drag system. I loosened the drag of both of them to the end, checked the drag tension by turning the spool manually. 8000 pg was quite tight compared to 10000. I then measured the minimum drag values of both reels with a precision balance. 8000 PG’s spool stopped clicking at 900 grams. In other words, in the lightest drag (when the spool is close to coming off), a weight less than 900 grams cannot move (rotate) the spool. The minimum drag is 900 grams (approx. 2 lbs) In the 10000 PG, this value is 380 grams (approx. 0.85 lb). There is a difference of about half a kilogram. Is it normal that there is such a difference? Is it normal for the 8000 PG's loosest (lightest) drag to be so tight? So is this a situation specific to 8000 PG? I would be very grateful if you could share your opinions. Thanks in advance 😊

[@user-nx8vp5sy5d]

Infinity drive, buy a lot of pinion gears, the shaft bushing wears quick on the Stella, remember that it’s very hard to buy replacement parts after the 10yr period. Most reels last a couple of years if you look after it, but infinity drive, Xlies parts do need replacement yearly. If you do your own maintenance then these items are irrelevant completely

[@cameronkanner3186]

I always convince myself I don’t need another reel for a little while until I see one of these reviews show up in the feed 😬

[@RyanMorie]

That's what I'm here for haha!

[@CaptainBadChad]

Great review, thanks for the time spent making it! I just purchased a Twin Power 8000. I can't wait to get it! This video was very informative! I subbed.

[@aekara1000]

Daiwa fan boy you ranked Shimano Stella sw 19 almost like twin power but where is the test that proves it?

[@fishing4life292]

You should do a review on some of the newer van staal reel models, I don’t believe you did one yet on the smaller ones I may be wrong

[@slyarsenal]

I agree the 2013 Stella was a beast and I'm usually a Saltiga guy. Would also prefer to the 2019. As of 2020 though, the Saltiga is still the best spin reel ever made imo

[@needmoreboost6369]

The handle bearings are most susceptible to failure it doesn’t matter if it’s the bearings daiwa or shimano! a bush will always win for durability against maintenance negligence!

[@peterdomingo3965]

Great comparison of Shimano spinning reels. I have the 4000 SW as well as the 10000 SW (‘19) models. I love both of them and the drag systems got my attention. I’ve used the 4000 fishing lakes (bass and Northern Pike), offshore for Calico bass and surf fishing (local surf fish). A great reel to have to handle all types of species. I mainly use the 10k model for offshore. It has a lot of drag potential in comparison to conventional reels. 👍🔥 great video. 🐠

[@benskinner7449]

hey man love the content, just wondering if you could do a comparison for the shimano twinpower and dawia certate.

[@ronaldmiller1835]

You, my friend, sound like you are as Much of a Fishing Fanatic and enthusiasts as I am!!! I would LOVE to get to fish with you one day! Lol. I Moved to Florida 9 yrs ago, just so i can Fish anytime i can afford to go! Lol. I go on excursions for 4-5 days 3 or more hrs away from where I'm at in Sanford Florida, and locally at Titusville or New Smyrna or such on other good days.. and pour weights, work on my gear, etc.. on days that are not very fishable... as well as Cook up my fish for Dinners on my days at home.. lol

[@Pmckh]

Great video, I have 6 gosas and they’re absolute work horses but I also have 4 TP’s that I absolutely love and have been bulletproof

[@RyanMorie]

Awesome to hear!

[@martintin]

Another great review! Thanks for the amazing work. Just decided on the Saragosa, after watching several of you reels reviews. Your in-depth knowledge makes me feel like I made a sound and informed decision, and saves me a handful of bucks. Cheers, mate!

[@snipergene]

Great video! Would love to see something similar with a Van Staal VSX, Visser, and Zeebass.

[@jakeelson2458]

Would you be able to swap the saragosa part into the twin power? It's pretty poor design to have cheaper reels with better sealing when the twin power and stella are the top teir. The saragosa doesn't habe the drag to match the reel but yet the twin power has all the drag but less sealing.

[@ozzyhouston2535]

I see many people selling used Twin Power's on ebay, and the savings are not significant enough for me to buy just now. What could go wrong! Parts no longer available? 5 year old water droplets inside? Old technology! Is it ever advisable to buy a used Twin Power? I admit to being tempted.

[@aldraw]

Thanks for the thorough review. I'm debating upgrading from my Daiwa Saltist and Daiwa BGWQ to a Twin Power. I'm just getting tired of sending the Daiwas in every season because they get grindy. Mainly tuna fishing on a boat that tends to spray & splash. Need high drag, durability and a good seal, hopefully without breaking the bank.

[@RyanMorie]

The Twinpower is a definite upgrade from both of those reels. And service is easier with Shimano than with Daiwa USA.

[@Brian_Vo]

Get a certate sw or a saltiga bro

[@azmankhan5415]

@@Brian_Vo No. Its time for him to switch from the dark side😝

[@Dink_master_fishing]

Penn slammer or authority they full metal with stainless steel gears

[@Nofishnoclue]

And you don't have to worry about them becoming rough and clunky over time because that's how they are out of the box haha

[@mrfish49el]

So grab a gomexus knob, got it

[@jordanrichard3641]

Can you do a review of Shimano bait runner, thunnus or maybe a comparison between the two ?

[@JLTFishing]

I usually buy all my Shimano and Daiwa reels in Japan. Do you know any where in the U.S that will service JDM reels?

[@gavinlangford2984]

I have the 14k PG and is a cracking reel..shame shimano dont make s 20k version..probsbly will go woth a 13 Stella rather than 19 in the 20l version

[@miketorre16]

the Twin power reels are ok, I just make the jump to the Stella, and your done!

[@stripervince1]

One of these twin powers has 62 lbs of drag. Do you know which one and year that one is? Anyone know?

[@adamgibbons997]

So now you must want to review my new Certate 14k

[@vaskodimoski5690]

Hasn't the saragosa 8000 and up got a alluminium rotor. And where would you rank the 2008 stella

[@ShinkiZer0]

Certate SW VS Shimano TwinPower SW next pleaaasseeeee! I will forever be grateful! Keep up these teardowns vids coming!

[@kamadowoah4584]

The sw Is a better and cheaper reel. Certate sw is awesome.

[@ShinkiZer0]

@@kamadowoah4584 which one?

[@eves08109]

Problem with the Certate is when you see the cost you might as well just put out a few extra dollars for the Saltiga...If you can.☺️

[@ShinkiZer0]

@@eves08109 for bigger sizes definitely. I need a 6000 size reel. Went with certate sw and happy so far. its lighter, more line capacity, better drag, smoother, starts up quicker. Only i like about the twinpower, clicks when you close bail and cast tad further but tbh you can never go wrong with either and its all preferences.

[@eves08109]

I was actually considering buying the Certate also and for smaller sizes that was a good choice. I was considering the biggest reel and since the Saltiga 20000H holds a generous amount of 80lb, plus with that drag I just have to get it!..I also have 5 BGs and love em!

[@user-nx8vp5sy5d]

Hmm I will upgrade my line class and stay with my early 2000 sustain 4000. Never had an issue with water entering the reel body or any issues with pinion bearings

[@gh0ztkid211]

Absolutely love the review! Can you do a similar tee video with the daiwa certate sw and the daiwa saltiga?!!! Interested to know what you think about the certate. I’ve got the certate 10k and 14k for tuna fishing and honestly so far absolutely love them. Have caught several yft and bft on them in the last year and a half but not enough and definitely not big enough fish to test it out to the full extent of what the reel can handle.

[@strayedcat1966]

Great work and thorough reviews on the reels. All your reel reviews/opinions are worthy. I wanted, waited and gave trying to get TwinPower salt water awhile back (China flu) but unavailable. So, on account of your & Alan Hawk's reviews, I happily got the new 6k & 10k SW Gosa's with $ left over for line. Have not hooked up yet on SW10000PG but did get a keeper Snook and pulled a huge Moray (NPI, lol) eel out of a bridge fender with the 6k on a Shimano Trevala jigging rod. Picked up a Grappler 7 1/2' MHMF rod for the 10,000 from Strike Zone Jax.

[@Unplugged704]

Great take down and review!! 👏👏 Wondering if 2024 TP FE is an improvement over this?

[@getitdone6694]

Appreciate the videos, watched many. So in your comparison at the end you mentioned the Stella 13 at 93 out of 100. So is that something worth getting? Parts are probably scarce for an 11year old. Thanks

[@DIRTY_WITE]

Make a salt x 6000 video I need a video on putting the bail back on

[@MinhTran-ol9wg]

Saragosa is my choice , the price is better fit . Your review is awesome TY so much for sharing.

[@philipclapp5355]

would u buy a new 14000 saragosa or a used 15 twin power for the same price?

[@RyanMorie]

New Saragosa but that’s just me

[@preiudeh22a]

Can you do a review of the daiwa Certate?

[@maxschmidt9461]

About drag number flex: It's not! Honestly I still wish there were Reels with more drag for their size and even the 2020 Saltiga has given out on me cause I fished too much drag. It's when you target big fish, especially in freshwater and around structure where you need lots of drag but not a huge amount of line and even a 6k Shimano would be just fine if it had 40-50lb of drag that it can be realistically be fished at, but I have to use 8-14k Saltigas or the old Stellas and am still at risk of usin' too much drag, while the reel is already a bit much for the rod and the whole setup overkill for the lures that are fished. A 5-6k would be much better but I can only use them when I have room to play the fish and not too much current, or I'm able to follow the fish

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

Why not just fish an Accurate conventional reel? That's what I moved to once I realized a spinning reel wouldn't cut it. Twin drag washers and 40-50lb of usable drag as well as machined and assembled in the US.

[@maxschmidt9461]

@@Tyler-kw9ce they are an option, as well as the Aver Raptors, but they only have this drag in sizes comparable to a 20-30k spinner, and I need these small reels with heavy drag to cast lures, mostly 1-2oz and that all day long, a conventional without a worm guide just ain't suited for this, plus you need more weight to cast a two pound conventional properly. And in this size range I have enough reels to choose from anyway

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

@@maxschmidt9461 sounds like a really hard task for any reel to manage.

[@maxschmidt9461]

@@Tyler-kw9ce it sure is 👍

[@maxschmidt9461]

@@Tyler-kw9ce but spinners are much better at castin' light lures/weights in comparison to the reel's size

[@chicco4everit]

sorry for the inconvenience I have a twin power sw c 8000hg I wanted to buy a reel stand but what size should I look for... for sale I only see specified for max 5000 reels 

[@user-yd1cv2my7w]

Totally agree with the new twinpower. A simply amazing reel. No idea where you got your rating on your 2013 Stella from though. That was easily the worst Stella made to date. It is absolutely horrible. Working in the tackle industry and having fished multiple of all these reels. No reel breaks more than the 2013 stella. Only worse reel is the 2015 Saltiga.

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

Hi mate, curious as to what your opinion on changing out the bearings that see salt water to ceramic would be, would that have any benefits? Cheers.

[@Tealemoodley]

get a certate bud

[@fisherman1353]

Waiting for your review on the new Stella FK

[@scotthutchins5330]

I like my gosa 14k but I'm in love with my twin power! Sooo smooth powerful never disappointed using it well worth the extra money to me. It's like comparing a Toyota to a Ferrari. Great breakdown looking forward to future videos. Fyi I've never owned a Stella and have no plans to either.

[@VinMiester]

If your not getting a Stella just get a Spheros, the new ones are INSANE for the $150 price tag.

[@Voltys_fishing]

Great review mate Looking forward to testing my new Twin Power SW5000XG

[@johnnyrp8253]

Good luck getting it to service lol

[@Unplugged704]

@@johnnyrp8253 Why is that?

[@Pleasuremachine100]

Used to buy nothing but Shimano but I'm over there thin bails catching the line so went to Daiwa and haven't looked back

[@andreasjonsson8075]

when you go fishing. 2 bottles of water. One for your body and the other one for the reel and rod.

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

The 10k and 14k twin power have top and bottom spool drag to have a smoother drag pressure and a heat sink to disperse heat on those big fish!

[@chasekaneakua8874]

The only real benefit you get with the Stella over the rest is the platinum service plan.

[@edwardfroment1635]

Waiting for this review!

[@RyanMorie]

I made it just for you!

[@olschool1963]

Have you reviewed the Shimano Bait runner(s)? I have the 8000 OC and the 8000D,any thoughts? I did not see a review in your posts.

[@franciscallahan4213]

How does this new twin power compare to the 2015 model? What's the difference

[@jeffstryker1454]

I bought a Twinpower a year ago but yet too use it because I don’t wanna get a scratch on it so bought a Saragosa and a Spheros to use instead😂

[@RyanMorie]

🤣hahaha

[@fortheloveofmoney1752]

Lmbo!!! That’s a good one! I have several Shimano, but deciding to get a Tp, but not sure yet. Never purchased a reel at that price point, but have purchased the Gosa 8k.

[@pgfisher8652]

Jeff, you’re like my grandma who leaves the plastic wrap on the lampshades and has plastic runners on the carpet so the carpet won’t wear out. Don’t be afraid man, TP is a well made tool. Now go catch an amberjack or tuna with that TP.😂

[@alanramanand2732]

How do you feel about power gear vs high gear?

[@bigmil1]

Why they hell would they charge 600 USD and give you a jointed handle? The saragosa has a solid handle, and the twin power doesn't?

[@4filiro]

Thats why i use certates...

[@bigmil1]

@@4filiro yeah problem is where I live certates aren't available

[@pfv3462]

Are the parts and bearings easy to obtain to repair these reels, or do you have to take them in for repairs?

[@blackedoutgrendel3775]

The 10000 and 14000 I have seen have large egg shaped handle, others may also not sure

[@OBCBTTB]

22:51 Arbitrary rankings between Stella, Gosa and TP for years 2013 through to 2021.

[@kingdavid2684]

Bought a new TP SW 14k today. $546.00 shipped.

[@ibrahimelmansouri9434]

and what is good rod for fisshing tuna bluefin 100lb with popping and cheap cost?

[@semperfidelis2748]

what is the difference in body from a twinpower sw 4000 to a 5000.

[@yumalavita1268]

lots of wind knots with twin power, sold for the new saltiga

[@joec00]

Great tear down! Subscribed 😊

[@andrewwolf4963]

I have a Twin Power XD and I use it for Striper and Bluefish in the bay as well as bass in ponds , should I not be? I wish I had the SW now lol

[@dzhotmess68]

Any reviews or advice for Penn users? Love the info. Thanks.

[@1800KLIENFELD]

Yo Ish. Can you remove the bail arm trip for TPS??!

[@mattbackvass]

25:23 - 93 - 87 =6 = 87 - 81 . 15TP should have been listed at a value of 86 if putting whole numbers down for score cards which would have placed it closer to the gosa instead of being equidistant to both the stella and gosa

[@RyanMorie]

You are correct Sir

[@madzr3093]

Review of Okuma ceymar HD 5000 pleaseeee

[@davidgalloway904]

Ryan is there a starter maintenance kit you can suggest or what specific tools would we need to service our reels?

[@eves08109]

It depends on what you're taking apart. I can tell you this much, smaller screw drivers will probably be a must but mostly your common wrenches and screw drivers will take care of most of your needs.

[@thevernonposse]

Just bought a 6000 new on ebay for a little under 500 im happy

[@941Gringo]

Great review

[@RyanMorie]

Thank you!

[@ibrahimelmansouri9434]

hi bro , i want to buy this reel for fishing tuna blue fin 100lb is it good or no ?

[@George.G.E]

what is the difference in body from a twinpower sw 6000 to a 5000. I see that there is only a 10 gram difference in weight and I put it down to the larger coil (they are not "C" bodies). the difference is internal in the gears? The 6000 has more drag than the 5000. what is the actual difference?

[@sirimauchannel]

Spool

[@josemanuelfernandezsanjorg7042]

Great job mate !!

[@RyanMorie]

Thank you!

[@ryanzellerphilip2082]

Yep i stick with my Saragossa 5000👌

[@robertabrams91]

May i ask what size is that reel?

[@user-nx8vp5sy5d]

I sold my Saragossa of using it two times, not a good reel. Choice for replacement was a certate or twin power, I bought the certate, excellent reel. I love my Stella 5000 but I don’t use it as much as the certate due to weight imbalance with my rods. Rods are often too light these days which sucks

[@Dink_master_fishing]

Use Penn carnage rods they ain’t light

[@escaaaaaa893]

What do you think of the TP XD 21?

[@tackleaddictgy]

Great review bro

[@RichieRacer510]

Wonder how the Penn authority compares to this

[@SeamusHilleary]

Ryan, thanks for another reel review! I just stick with the diawa bg, but it’s cool to see you review the high end stuff.

[@RyanMorie]

That's still the best Saltwater Spinner in that $100 price range (IMO)

[@JedemPoKucama]

These shimanos are waaaay lighter than BG,helps with shore jigging

[@leonardoloureirocaldas6647]

Para quem tem um daiwa bg 8000, você acha que é muita vantagem conseguir uma saragoça 20000 ou 25000?

[@nevsterk2463]

“Save” your money sell your gosa and get a TP. And if you are a diawa or pen fan boy all I have to say is good luck.

[@fishingislife34]

I think he didn't wash his reel that's why the handle bearing went bad

[@F.B.I.0]

but what if i want my saragossa and a tp😢

[@nevsterk2463]

@@F.B.I.0I’ll allow it. My friend just got a new Saragosa it’s super nice! Also since it’s been 2 years I’ve had my 6k Twin Power and the handle and line roller bearings are silent still with no feeling of grit. I think it’s because I take care of my reels and property wash them and apply Clenzoil where I need to 😂😂😂. BUT if Diawa was going to send me free shit I would too probably shit on Shimano and still slap one on each rod while the Diawas gather dust in the garage.

[@nuarmatsuda2085]

I got both..twin power and saragosa.. same size and same gear ratio.. honestly, there are big different in cranking power.. doing vertical jigging with 100g of jig, twin power are more stronger and easier.. thats why i love wormshaft oscillation system.. thanks me later ✌️😊

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

What gear ratio are you using? On them? Cheers.

[@nuarmatsuda2085]

@@ihatethegestapo7649 5.7 :1

[@fergy44207403]

You’ve made me buy this reel.

[@mrbamboo23]

mọi người nghĩ sao về Penn authority vs twinpower .What do you guys think about Penn authority vs twinpower

[@mirkodellastrada6690]

Bellissimo il Twin Power SW-C, reel al TOP ! credo che abbia lo stesso driver gear dello Stella SW-C

[@Thoeun-uj1sy]

Am looking to get twin power 14000 . What size is the best?

[@xTranscendx]

Hey ryan, can you put together a video with all the tools, grease, and whatever other miscellaneous items you might need to take apart a reel?

[@RyanMorie]

I already have! Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoOxdopujqx-b5o&ab_channel=RyanMorie

[@heathfishalot6831]

How about doing a review on the okuma makaira 10000

[@vaskodimoski5690]

Will the twin power main gear fit the saragosa

[@fosterdavid8490]

Do a Review on the DAIWA CERTATE...

[@danijordan1078]

Good for tarpon?

[@williamfoster4268]

for $600 it better be good for tarpon.

[@Lil_Ruthless]

Ya put a 150 plus on mine

[@fortheloveofmoney1752]

Which has the better casting distance, the stella or the daiwa , and which is the better of the two brands of reels? I have all shimanos and one daiwa. Im still trying to decide if I want to purchase the Tp sw or not for my 12’ surf fishing rod.

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

Stella has a better spool lip design for longer casting.

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

The twin power is perfect for what you are wanting to do, I'd probably go the 5000 you can run the 6000 spool for extra line capacity if you ever wanted or a heavier line depending on where you were fishing 👍🎣

[@fortheloveofmoney1752]

@@ihatethegestapo7649 Thanks a lot my friend! I’ll do just that. Tight lines! 🤙🏿

[@linekerkb]

Stella is great but TP is the better value. I have quite a few stella & TP. TP is what I use more offen. However, going for heavy game popping, Stella is the way. But my most favourite is the Stradic FL 2500. Landed a 20kg Sailfish with no issue.

[@yumalavita1268]

my friend, a 20kg fish with 2500, what kind of pe you have for 2500?

[@linekerkb]

@@yumalavita1268 PE1.0 Shimano Mission Complete. It was a by catch but we managed to land it.

[@MzkFishing]

crazy...cool @@linekerkb

[@Voltys_fishing]

Great review mate 🇦🇺

[@fishguy4396]

certate all day👍

[@RyanMorie]

Definitely a great reel! I'm excited to look at it in the future!