Two books on WW2 - which is the memoir and which the novel?

Two books I have read recently. When is a book a memoir and when is it a novel? WW2 from two different perspectives.
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From the City, From the Plough by Alexander Baron (Bernstein)
The Last Panther by Wolfgang Faust (Chris Ziedler)
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[@rat_thrower5604]

The clarification of 'miners' was much needed.

[@jameshenderson4876]

le Beast I know - for a minute I was going to get irate at all those Cryptocurrency types at it again, driving up graphics card prices again...

[@shacuras8201]

le Beast wait what???!!?! Oh ok - my reaction to that part

[@user-iq3xc5gc1f]

David Bodor To be fair probably. Wasn't entirely unheard of though markedly less common on the Western front.

[@anchorbait6662]

Butt miner

[@2snowornot2know81]

le Beast tbh I thought he said minor the first time he said miners. "Oh gay minors? Wtf is this book about lol" then he said coal miners and I realised he was talking about something else entirely

[@danyapanya5089]

The last panther is basically a script for a game of war thunder

[@riccardobalbo234]

: / it's too exagerated

[@Vatniks_are_clowns]

HOW DID THAT NOT PENETRATE?!

[@DieselpunkMachine]

written by 11 year old

[@cavalcadeofbobs3559]

if t was war thunder, it missed the occasional jets at that BR, and the ghost shells. And also the lack of crew models in closed tanks. And capturing the D point.

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

My teammate shouted that we should attack the D point with a fury that made my Sturmjagdpanzertiger 12.8cm burst up into the air in a blaze of smoke and we were charged by a T34 (the American post-war one, not T-34) which i landed on and then a hot girl appeared and then suddenly she was decapitated by an APCR shell from a 7.5cm Pa(c)K gun!!!

[@GrandChiefSmackaho]

Just went to buy "From the City, To the Plough" and the hardcover went from 5 in stock to only one in the time it took me to place my order. You REALLY know how to sell a story.

[@Opferlamm113]

Lindy needs an amazon affiliate link to monetize his work

[@lackadaisicale492]

Well either that, or you just got suckered by the cookies playing games to make it look really popular while you were watching it..or perhaps a bit of both.

[@dinlobiscuit4611]

that`s just to get you to hurry up and purchase it , 100% true

[@silvesby]

The price for the book now is >150usd

[@rogerpattube]

Book "Currently unavailable".

[@mapesdhs597]

I'll freely admit I hadn't read the 2nd book yet when I posted it to LB, I was taking advantage of a combined order opportunity (bought two, the other for me). Humble apologies Lindy, for putting you through such a thing! Must admit I'm amazed at your note taking, I had no idea you did that with books you read, good heavens. Well, lesson learned, I shall try to be more discerning in the future; I guess I fell for the book rating. I'll go stand in the corner now. :}

[@lindybeige]

Nonsense. I got a video out of it! Thanks again.

[@Gizmomadug]

Were you a Sven Hassel fan when you were young mapesdhs? I was...

[@ComUnSas]

Old Sven was definitely king of the fake WW2 German memoir in his day and the first author I thought of watching this video. I have a sneaking suspicion that the movie 'Cross of Iron' was based on his first couple of novels. I also remember a Sven wannabee who had an equally unfeasible war record called Leo Kessler. I just looked up his real identity and he was a Yorkshireman called Charles Whiting.

[@mapesdhs597]

LB, good point! :D Clouds & silver linings, etc. Gizmo Madug, I'd not heard that name before, most interesting! The book I finished recently was this: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1539586391/ Grim, but thought provoking, poses some uncomfortable questions, and made me wonder whether even well regarded productions like BoB and Saving Private Ryan are dumbed down in order to tread that fine line between getting the audience to empathise with the key characters and the audience instead thinking ye gods, war is just absolute hell, can we please just not do it to anyone? Alas, humans as yet seem unable to push technology forward in some other manner by quite the same degree.

[@Gizmomadug]

Indeed. All the Wehrmacht hated the Nazis, but kinda sorta fought for them though.

[@totsuka2213]

"The year was 1940. I was in the Afrika korps, advancing towards Moscow, when we were suddenly ambushed by 4 Shermans, 2 Katyushas and an LCVP. I quickly shot the first one: the tank instantly imploded, raining down hellfire before exploding, shooting chunks of burning metal that impaled a Spitfire, which crashed into an oil rig, vaporizing half the enemy fleet. Then I switched to my Luger, shooting a bullet ricocheting through the barrel and detonating the ammunition storage, which tore the tank's turret off the chassis, bisecting the commander." - Wolfgang Faust

[@aldorea4616]

This should be a copypasta regarding all fake memoirs

[@matthewmaurysmith2486]

Def the most fun fake accounts if WW2!

[@MarkusMurlowski]

What is this crap? Is this really sold in bookform

[@saraskywalker2127]

I loved that Irish accent in middle of the reading!

[@BernardTheMandeville]

I was seriously impressed by how good and full of respect the accent was. As Lindy bashes the French in a beautiful British way, I presumed the Irish would get a similar treatment - in this case with a parody of their accent.

[@Theduckwebcomics]

Sounded like Sargent Harper from the Sharpe series.

[@albinandersson1154]

Wonder if Harper was inspired by that guy? The sound very similar.

[@psammiad]

Well it's a Northern Irish accent so therefore a British accent, but yes, well done that chap ;)

[@daveomahony4183]

Well it would make sense that it would be a Northern Irish accent. The Republic of Ireland was neutral in the war

[@synkkamaan1331]

The long excerpt of 'From the Plough..' was so engaging that I didn't want it to end.

[@MattC-jg1yb]

At the end the private no scopes the other guy and they clap

[@patchesohoolihan666]

I'll have you know that Wolfgang Faust von Bismarck-Hindernburg of Prussia is one of Germany's most acclaimed war authors!

[@daniellastuart3145]

still dose stop hes storys been fake and sounds like a very made up name anyway

[@axelNodvon2047]

Daniella Stuart Yea that name is kinda cringy, at least to ke

[@ScottyMoolaH]

I think the other replies haven’t reached understanding of sarcasm

[@simonspacek3670]

@@ScottyMoolaH Nowadays you cannot be sure if something is sarcasm or real. And of course the real name was Adolf Wolfgang Faust von Bismarck-Hindenburg of Prussia. I wanted to send one war memoar worte by Czechoslovakian pilot to Lindy but I just found out that it was never translated to English. Well, I guess that there is something I can do while sitting home.

[@mikeweiss790]

The last panther is fake . But you can't deny listening to the audiobook was an amazing experience . Lol

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

I thought the name 'Wolfgang Faust' was too good to be true.

[@BichaelStevens]

tacfoley r/quityourbullshit

[@oddballsok]

it is more a script for a german tank movie...what 's the name of the american petrol explosions director of the 1980ies ?

[@StLaparole]

But surely you read Goethes famous "Panzerfaust"?

[@PhillieBraap]

I once knew a guy called Mike Venom. Coolest name i've ever heard

[@thil2894]

must have had a viper's tongue…. sorry could not stop myself

[@tummywubs5071]

The last panther legit sounds like a fanfiction... HOW THE HELL WAS THAT PUBLISHED.

[@Gneeznow]

Half the stuff on amazon isn't proofread, some of them are just published from a PDF sent to them and no humans are involved in the process at all it seems.

[@misterwibble6411]

Self-published. E-books are easy and cheap to publish.

[@o5-109]

Say that to a wercmacht platoon, and an American company fighting together in a medieval castle against the German SS.

[@VonDilling]

​@@o5-109 I see you are a fellow Mark Felton listener!

[@saraskywalker2127]

Michael Bay wrote Wolfgang Faust. Or at least directed it.

[@Slash-XVI]

I was wondering whether the name is basically a reference to Faust by Johann Wolfgang v. Goethe, taking the first name from one the last name from the other and you end up with something that could pass as a very traditional german name.

[@moosemaimer]

Mikkel Bayer

[@vermilion7777]

I heard Rian Johnson is already doing "The last Panther", with a full diverse cast.

[@dublardemesrie]

i was thinking the exact same thing

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Vermilion77 hahahahahahaha

[@ne3333t]

A very fine machine gun? What, a spandau or something?

[@charleswood4635]

Fine only with a katana bayonet on it --

[@jll5446]

Alongside the special pommel ammunition

[@hoogmonster]

Err.... A Bren actually....

[@rhodridavies9426]

The Last Panther sounds like it was written for the Warhammer 40k universe! And, based on your excerpt and recommendation, I have ordered From the City... already and I look forward to seeing that Irish soldier completely embarrassed! :-P

[@alexc6324]

yes i immediately thought of Warhammer fantasy too. i bet the author has done one of those.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

At least to 40ks credit its in the Future, while also potentially propaganda/folk tales.

[@dead_channel_zero]

"You'll have to read the book to find out!" You got me. I'm actually going to have to buy that book now. I was really absorbed in that story and now I have to know what happens.

[@damanorelse]

Joseph Stalin threes? I thought just one of them was enough!

[@benitomussolini7382]

damanorelse how dare you there is only one.

[@cpt_nordbart]

It's the name of the Tank IS 3 (JS 3)

[@dentistguba]

Wait ages for a Stalin and three come along at once.

[@George-jg9sy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rF6UnJSwbdGjaJI :)

[@NorrisHistoryCorner]

London Stalin Syndrome...

[@LordMidichlorian]

"It is amazing how much he could see from a periscope at night". Makes me sure of it fakeness, having read "the Rommel papers", where he tells of one anecdote in which his division was moving back closer to other divisions after deciding against trying to take soem town (at the moment I can't remember which one) and that they made the trip across the field at night, but during the night they went into a road. As I understood it it wasn't only tanks, they also had infantry in trucks, much better visibility than in tanks, with them. Then dawn arrived and, with the light, they looked around and.... "wait a minute. That truck, that truck, that other truck... we're in the middle of a French column!". So yeah, if at night with people on trucks with better visibility could get mixed with a column of the enemy army, I don't think we can't believe anything about seeing so clearly from the periscope of a tank at night. By the way, if someone could be as kind to please answer my question I would appreciate it: I'd like to know of some good book to read on WW2 written my a high ranking officer from the Italian and Japanese armies and an Allied from the Pacific front (perhaps both American and European or just American). I know MacArthur has an autobiography, but I'd be more interested in something specific to the WW2 and from what I know of him I'm inclined to not want to read his books before I've read enough about the Pacific front from other people, be it involved in the action or historians writing after the facts.

[@nwrailfan2465]

Have you read "the medic" yet

[@tilemacro]

Can i keep the dream of having your voice in audio books some day ?

[@lindybeige]

I have applied to several companies but have been uniformly rejected. The only time I was given a solid reason was that I have a standard English accent, and they are looking for regional accents.

[@Islacrusez]

I daresay they're making a terrible mistake. Perhaps you could offer your services directly to someone like the tank museum to narrate something and go from there?

[@terrytripp3528]

Lindybeige Is it possible to just upload them to your channel?

[@Islacrusez]

I think the trouble is with rights; you are after all providing a copy of a book that isn't yours. It's why I suggest looking toward an institution that may either have rights to give, or the clout to acquire them.

[@ComUnSas]

+Linbygeige: Yes, try again. At some point someone might realise that over half a million subs is a bit of a 'tell'. A lot of the military history books available on Audible are ruined by flat, bored, non-regionally accented delivery. You could start with Audible's version of 'A Bridge To Far' ... please. The current version is terrible. Ditto for The Longest Day.

[@janczarnecki4884]

This channel deserves twice the recognition it currently has... great videos, each and every one of them

[@znoot]

I'd listen to an audiobook written by you, Lloyd! You've got a great reading voice.

[@pionosphere]

Thank you for putting From the City, From the Plough on my radar.

[@MatthewQuigley]

Johann Wolfgang v. Goethe: Faust, his most famous tragedy. Obviously the author had very little imagination.

[@CeeJayFraser]

Cor, that dramatic reading with the accents was brilliant. Could you read a loud the whole book for Audible?

[@saraskywalker2127]

I like reading books from the German side of both wars. It truly makes you see the war in a different light and how horrible the war truly was for both sides.

[@Knights_of_the_Nine]

Yeah WW2 is really appealing to a lot of people because theirs this perception of it being black and white. Human vs monster.

[@dan_mer]

All English language books tell the German side. Virtually everything is Nazi propaganda. The start like this: We were not Nazis. We were brave, heroic German soldiers who secretly despised that Bohemian kaplar with a stupid mustache. We defeated humongous communist hordes, but then we ran out of fuel/ammunition/winter clothing/men/penicillin for our syphilis and then we came back, only to be wrongly accused of war crimes. You should read Russian books. The only possible conclusion after readings these books is that the Nazis and the USA were practically allies.

[@saraskywalker2127]

JustAMan Guess the comunist and nazis didn't have secret pacts to invade Poland and the Americans didn't send fleets of ships to provide the Russians with material resources. I'm just saying the horrors of Stalinism are at least comparable to those of the national socialism. So much so that there are war crimes that the Russian committed and then they tried to pin on the Nazis like the execution of thousand of Polish officers. My personal view is that I'm glad the Nazi were defeated but beyond the idealism of western democracies, there were no saints in that war.

[@5Stringslinger]

Problem is, that there never was a a german version of this book ;-/ Ich guess this is fiction.

[@hanswolfgangmercer]

It's really hard to find Soviet memoirs because keeping a war diary was illegal in the Red Army. Everything that has been written from that side was written well after the fact based on memory.

[@aaa72317]

13:00. You, sir, are an evil man.

[@AndyJarman]

Ow, uncle, finish the stooorwie, caaarme on...

[@jamble7k]

yes... it makes me want to read it now

[@fistsofsnake5475]

My actually reaction was: F*k you Loyd. I'm not a native english so reading in it isn't easy to me but I realy want to know

[@blob22201]

lol and after this video the book was really expensive. 3 years later though and the books back in print and I finally found out who won

[@donfelipe7510]

Very good, clearly you are a researcher Lloyd with a critical and pragmatic mind. While I did enjoy your infamous Bren v Spandau video perhaps this sort of thing is more up your street. There are a lot of pedants with vast knowledge on the inner workings of all sorts of machines and weapons that will disagree with an in depth analysis of a specific piece of equipment but book and movie analysis by a well read and knowledgeable person such as yourself are informative and entertaining if you're able to take a book apart in the way you do here.

[@donfelipe7510]

Since this post I bought 'From the city, from the plough' for myself and my Dad to read based on your recommendation.

[@bluetownbarry]

I stumbled upon this video by chance and on the back of this excellent review I’ve ordered the Baron book. Thanks.

[@ThijsVanDalen]

this is so weird... i was thinking about buying 'The last Panther' about 3 hours before you uploaded this video...

[@acvaticlifE]

Holy shit Lindy. You should be doing audiobooks man. You have a very soothing voice, similar to a very skilled spokesman. Loved it!

[@bertramjagoda5444]

Am I the only one getting a strong "Harper" vibe from the Irishman's voice? (From Sharpe)

[@dbmail545]

I read "The Last Panther" and I must say your analysis is spot on. I will have to try to find the British book.

[@benwade4269]

Before he finished say IS3 I was expecting the author to have written about hand to hand combat with Stalin

[@filmandfirearms]

To be fair to Faust, he was describing the final days of the 9th army, which was very much unlike the rest of the war in pretty much every way. Given how much of a clusterfuck that whole operation was, I could see a T-34 suddenly appearing 50 yards away. It was a time when everyone was shooting in every direction, so there wasn't as much of the "vague idea of an enemy" thing as in other parts of the war

[@jamesfstokes]

Your commentary on these two books is very interesting to listen to. What you think about various topics always fascinates me, plus your voice (tempo/pronunciation) is quite interesting to listen too.

[@Alpenjodler1]

"Admittedly, one of them does get shot. But in an inspiring way!" would have been hilarious ^^

[@Sturminfantrist]

Best book i ever read about a war and men is Michael Herr`s Dispatches

[@Nounismisation]

WE LOVE YOU LINDYBEIGE! ^^ Thanks for yet another charimatic and interesting video. Your attitude towards knowledge, fun and life in general is really healthy, greatly uplifting and puts a lindy hop in my step.

[@SirStevetheCreep]

Damn, that tease. Everyone wants an audio book version read by Lloyd now but it will never happen :`(

[@Cameron9788]

Please, please, PLEASE, do a video of you reading your favourite war memoir!!! I could listen to you for hours and hours! Keep up your awesome work Lindy!

[@willinnewhaven3285]

This reminds me of my contention that a high percentage of the favorable reviews on Amazon are from the author's relatives or creditors.

[@him050]

I’ve read from the city from the plough. The conclusion to the Shannon, Mulrooney conflict is amazing!

[@miscellaneous.7127]

How does one go about sending you a book?

[@TheMischix]

Damn I'd pay to listen or watch you narrate some of these Books. You convey the atmosphere so well and make the story more interesting. Loved the part where you read from "From the City, From the Plough".

[@yomomz3921]

Hey Lindy, have you ever considered reading for audiobooks?

[@TheSuzberry]

Your description of the second book would make a great satirical movie with action scenes interrupted by the narrator’s corrections.

[@TeeBar420]

Less realistic than Girls und Panzer

[@totsuka2213]

But of course, Girls und Panzer is the gold standard.

[@heisenberg1817]

When you first mentioned the title the last panther I went to go buy the audiobook and almost did but figured I should see what you have to say about it first I’m glad I did

[@MadGeneralJoe]

I'm german and the Panther book sounds embarrassing to me. I would say its near to defamation that the book claims to be the memoirs of a real german soldier. I searched for the german version of the book and found nothing. But i found this article which comes to the same conclusion as you, Lloyd: weaponsman.com/?p=22319 The first book sounds really good though. I want to know how it continues!

[@quintrankid8045]

Have you ever read The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer? Its been a while, but I remember reading several opinions online that came to the conclusion that the book was true but not factual. Even if it's not factual a quick look around the net suggests that this book has made its way onto US military reading lists.

[@MadGeneralJoe]

Quint Rankid No sorry, I haven't read that.

[@King.Leonidas]

why would a non factual book be an embarrassed

[@Pidgeon182]

Sadly, "The Last Panther" isn't the only fictional book this publisher released. There were a couple other books released a few years ago under the same pretenses called "D Day through German Eyes". Same type of writing and same type of fictional storytelling pretending to be factual. My guess is all of these were written by the same person trying to pull a fast one on unsuspecting people that happen to be interested in WW2 history. They would make great movies, but not so great for historical accuracy.

[@MadGeneralJoe]

King Leonidas Because it pretends to be factual. If it is fiction it should state that openly and not trick people into thinking its factual.

[@MrsBishopsDoggyDeliNottingham]

I love the detail that you spotted - a glowing review by someone actually involved in the production of the book. Amazon are trying to stamp that out.

[@TheFjerstad]

Ahhhh the suspense after the officer/ Irish man story! Damn you lindy beige DAMN you!!!!

[@jackofshadows8538]

You should find out what eventually happens to that Irishman when he and a Scouser decide to steal from a local farmer. Hint: NEVER cross a Scouser. Anyway, the Irishman is moved to another unit and is in hospital when the D-Day landings occur so it's not all bad news for him.

[@berkleypearl2363]

I could listen to you read all day. You’re a very good narrator

[@alluraambrose2978]

Didnt knew Micheal Bay wrote ww2 books.

[@quintrankid8045]

No, he only makes hyper-realistic movies about it, like Pearl Harbor, which is so real that many people have confused it with a documentary recorded on the cell phones of the participants as it happened. Well, except for that shot that follows the bomb down the stack. Except for that. Everything else is real.

[@ROBERTN-ut2il]

I used to assign to my cadets 1) Quartered Safe Out Here: A Recollection of the War in Burma is a military memoir of World War II by George MacDonald Fraser, the author of The Flashman Papers series of novels. Quartered Safe Out Here was first published in 1993. It describes in graphic and memorable detail Fraser's experiences as a 19-year-old private in The Border Regiment, fighting with the British 14th Army against the Imperial Japanese Army, during the latter stages of the Burma Campaign in late 1944 and 1945.[ This included his participation in the Battle of Meiktila and Mandalay and the Battle of Pokoku and Irrawaddy River operations. The military historian Sir John Keegan wrote: "There is no doubt that it is one of the great personal memoirs of the Second World War." Keegan gives similar praise to Norman Lewis' Naples '44 memoir, later produced as a movie. Fraser's book has also been praised by the English author Melvyn Bragg and the American playwright David Mamet. The book's title is a quotation from Rudyard Kipling's 1890 poem "Gunga Din", and is ironic since Fraser certainly was not "quartered safe out here", while serving in Burma during one of the final campaigns of the war. 2) Company Commander by Charles B Macdonald - A junior Infantry officer's war fighting Germany barbarawhitaker.com/2015/09/30/company-commander-by-charles-b-macdonald/

[@jhr4]

I’m surprised that you haven’t heard of From The City, From The Plough but it is a wonderful book and part of Barron’s WW2 trilogy.

[@dave_h_8742]

Scrolling through past Lindybeige vlogs

[@thomas6617]

Just read from the city from the plough because of this. Its one of the best books I have read in a long while. I deeply recommended it.

[@wearblackclothes]

I'll read it....in audible....if you are the one narrating

[@northumbriabushcraft1208]

I could have you read audiobooks to me all day. May be the fact your a northerner like me, or the enthusiasm you put into different videos. Great video as usual, bravo.

[@rolandfelice6198]

You never fail to please and entertain. Thanks. You do the research so I don't have to.

[@zigmar2]

Thanks for bringing this to light. There are youtubers who would make a video about some historic subject and present it as absolute truth because they read it in a book. They would even read a section of the book to show they got it from there and didn't make it up. Perhaps they've forgotten that lies and/or exaggerations do also come in the written form.

[@SouthPark333Gaming]

You are my new favourite youtuber

[@keithplymale2374]

"From the City, From the Plough" is on Amazon US from a low of $69 used to over $500 new. "The Last Panther" is $6.99 new and used to believe it or not almost $400 collectable.

[@mattkaustickomments]

There are audiobooks for “Wolfgang Faust memoirs” elsewhere on YT. It amazes me how many people are sucked into this War Porn and accept it as genuine. Still, I appreciate it for entertaining adventure fiction. Thankfully there are other people in the comments trying to knock sense into the suckers. Now I’m going to use this link, because Lindybeige explains the tells it so well.

[@thekinginyellow1744]

So glad I watched this video. "The Last Panther" kept coming up on my recommended reading on my kindle, but something just didn't seem right, so I held off buying it. Thank you for validating my suspicions.

[@itssalid]

I'm a simple man, I see Lloyd and WWII, I click faster than a spandau decapitates it's enemies.

[@hakaen2119]

Please do more reading videos, i learned a lot just from that. I think its great that you can explain a lot that comes on!

[@tek4]

I say we need a feed of lindy reading the entire book.

[@Allocated_Brain]

You did a fine Geordie accent.

[@lindybeige]

If you thought that was Geordie, then I failed miserably.

[@proxel96]

Lindybeige sounded Yorkshire

[@Allocated_Brain]

(I know it was a bad Geordie because I could understand it)

[@FrankJmClarke]

I read Tiger Tracks last week, it was a kind of war move screenplay. A lot of detail about the Sturmoviks attacking his tanks even though he was buttoned up, and everybody was either burned to death or decapitated. Never both. He watched an 88mm round bounce about the inside of a Stalin like a tennis ball, eventually killing everybody. Low on fuel, he took petrol from a mobile brothel. It was a really good book. Yir Norn Iron is quearangude, big laud.

[@gromit8023]

those notes are a work of art. wish I approached books like that . :)

[@matthunter2413]

Gromit she tries on a hat trick or treat the

[@3ddevelopment979]

If you want to read real war stories, you can go to websites iremember.ru, where you can find a lot of ww2 veteran's interviews most of them from former Soviet Union, but I think there are interviews from Germany, Romania and other countries

[@Jack_Schularick]

I like your sense of humour Lindy. And, by the way, you got me interested in Mr. Bernstein's book. Thank you.

[@thedamnedvirus]

Just got the audio book of From the city from the plough, Lloyd really should be a voice actor!

[@FrottyZaoldyeck]

My grandfather wrote his own memoirs about his imprisonment in Siberia. Quite nice but also sad.

[@mathiasrryba]

i had 1 great grandfather in wehrmacht in norway. He survived and came back but very little is known about it. He then joined the communist party, so you can see that he wouldnt want to share the stories with anyone... Another great grandfather was sent to gulag, survived but died 1 year after coming back. He was too broken to even attempt making any memoir

[@antiussentiment]

I'm just packaging up a bunch of really crap WW2 books to send you. Your flaming and ramming of The Ultimate Cougar (and what a beauty she was) is beyond entertaining.. Don't rush into reading them. I'm sure your review will be well worth the years we'll all wait.

[@TheDarkPreacher65]

Lloyd, a book suggestion, a bit on the more modern side, but you should be able to finish it in an hour or two, since it's a graphic novel: The White Donkey by Max Uriarte. Written and drawn by a Marine who has been overseas for the latest wars, it's a story that shows how things are over there for Marines, shows how things effect them.

[@matthewgelles4687]

Whether a name ending in "stein" is pronounced "steen" or "stine" has nothing to do with British vs. American pronunciation. It is up to the individual family's choice. I know people with "stein" at the end of their names, all Americans, who pronounce it both ways.

[@lindybeige]

In German EI is always as in 'fine' and IE is always as in 'scene'.

[@zizkazenit7885]

Lindybeige How does that make it a British versus American thing? Are you saying British English is closer to German than American English is?

[@CarrotConsumer]

Lindybeige Oh, I'm sure you pronounce all those French loan words in your finest Parisian accent eh?

[@jmalmsten]

Ealdy If I remember correctly, according to QI, noone in france speaks proper french according to scholars... I have no better source, I just thought it was a funny bit of trivia... :P

[@skinny55772]

His clear anti-american animosity makes his videos unwatchable unless of course you have the same animal grudge as I'm sure many of his viewers do.

[@stevemolina8801]

I read both books by "Faust" and I thought the same thing as the reviewer. I never served in a tank but I was a Gun mount capt in the Navy. You dont see to damn much. Great review. Thank you

[@jockmcscottish7569]

I did not think Scottish troops, or any other British soldiers would act so shockingly towards comrades as the Highlanders throwing grenades at swimming allies. I cant imagine any of the lads I served with doing something so badly, for lack of a better word.

[@gordonlawrence4749]

It happened, remember there is still a huge amount of anti-English sentiment in Scotland even now.

[@ComUnSas]

It didn't sound like they were throwing grenades at the swimmers. It sounded more like a wind-up that got out of hand. By the end of 1943, and a lot of intense fighting, the morale of the 51st was brittle. It seems to me like the kind of incident that could happen in an encounter between front line troops and those who hadn't been fighting.

[@ComUnSas]

An illustration of the state of morale of the 51st at the end of 1943 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salerno_mutiny

[@user-iq3xc5gc1f]

Just banter mate.

[@tofuchicken2]

Imagine the stupid kids you went to high school with. Now imagine someone put a gun in their hands and put them under immense stress and boredom.

[@BigDictator5335]

The Last Panther What a creative, original title.

[@smokingiscool599]

I'd like a video on the notes you take of books! What's in the notes?What makes those notes noteworthy? Do you have specific things you take notes on? Why did you stop taking notes after you decided the tank book was fake? How often do you refer to your notes? How long have you been taking notes of every book you read? Do you only take notes from non-fiction?

[@stevenp1961]

The Last Panther! I read it last year. Loved it! Ty

[@34darijusas]

"From the city, from the plough" reminded me of "Forest of gods" (Dievų miškas), a book by Lithuanian author Balys Sruoga, who was imprisoned in the Stutthof concentration camp from '43 to '45. It did so, because while all the things in the book are true, you cannot really call it a memoir. Especially since the book is written with grotesque irony and dark humour, which the author used to cope with what he experienced in the camp.

34darijusas O! Dar vienas Lindy fanas is Lietuvos.☺

[@toastyroastyman8911]

Lindy it wasn't only British officers that stood up and carried on in the face of Fire. There are many wonderful instances of famous american's on Omaha beach and in the European and Japanese/Pacific fight that did the very same thing. It isn't unique to the British officer corp. In fact the Germans and Russian's have many many examples also. Your prejudices are showing up again.

[@GT-tj1qg]

Great reading! And sounds like a gripping story

[@jtzoonie2552]

just a point here about tank radios, my friend used to have an old army 19 set (he was a radio ham, talking 40 years ago now not too reliable in battle. although a claimed range of 10 miles in battle ) so communication would have never been best believe they were fitted to shermans and churchills but my memory is a bit vague do remember it being a bit of a bugger to keep stable frequency wise even sat on a table with good power supply and a nice long aerial streaching over a car park . i make the point because in any battle communication is key and the 19 set was short wave selecting frequency by a large main dial and a smaller fine tune. only got real distance at night when you could bounce the signal. any way thought it might be important to what i knew of it back then. hope it helps about actual communication. carry on your doing such good stuff

[@Gilmaris]

It is a bit misleading to say that the _communists_ and _nazis_ were allies at the start of WW2. The _Soviet Union_ and _Nazi Germany_ did indeed have a non-aggression pact, and did co-operate with each other against Poland, but ideologically the communists were always the main enemy of the nazis. Saying communists and nazis were allies is a bit like saying capitalists and Muslims are allies because of how chummy the US is with Saudi Arabia. All the while Hitler made friendly with Stalin, communists were still being persecuted in Germany. Good thing you didn't have the heating on, though. The noise it would've made would only have exposed your house more brutally giving the red pilots - not to mention the PzKpfw VIIIs - a clearer target. A man could get decapitated that way. Possibly he'd even veer off course.

[@Azelketh]

Goddamit Beige! You can't leave us hanging about whether the sergeant is bested or not like that...

[@EricRuskoski]

the cheapest version of this book i could find was on amazon, used hardcover for $371.22!!! no audio book, no ebook! I wanna know what happens! =) but seriously, nice read.

[@jackofshadows8538]

I got it from a library. The Irishman comes to a very violent ending and finds himself in hospital with a broken jaw and probably a few broken ribs too. Because he can't be used with the Battalion's D-Day landings he is sent to another unit. Oh. And, no... the Sgt isn't bested. In fact, even Little Alfie gives him a good kicking as the Sgt lets almost every member of the platoon take him on in a one to one fight. The big Irishman is quite confident he can beat them all. He doesn't. He gets his arse kicked seven ways to sunday.

[@QurttoRco]

Wait so you're saying that in a work of fiction british officers don't duck and prance around like idiots, and that proves that they actually did that?

[@proxel96]

It's "don't duck" (Not sure if a typo on your end). And no watch his video "British officers don't duck". In it he gives examples from accounts of British soldiers, who talk about their officers behaving in this way.

[@QurttoRco]

yes its was a typo, my bad. And my points is I don't believe that german soldiers were that incompetent that they couldn't blow brain out of a officer(remember officers were priority targets ) that was walking around like it was a sunday at the park. Now I'm not saying that it never happened, but I bet you they picked their walking routes carefully and they did duck when things didn't go to plan,

[@proxel96]

QurttoRco True, it was abitt anecdotal. (Paraphrasing/remembering) He did say quite a few got killed as a result, but there was an inspiring affect that their men got from it. Ofcourse people still have a sense of danger, and many soldiers on all sides might have behaved in this way to some extent. Maybe it was a cultural thing for British officers aswell. The video is worth watching anyway

[@techpriest8965]

After reading about ww1 I am of firm belief that British officers are either mouthbreathing, windowlicking morons or absolute raging arseholes 95% of the time. Something like in black adder. So it is perfectly plausible that they are acting on battlefield as they would im the safety of their "war room".

[@andrewfurey2999]

QurttoRco the casualty stats for British officers during both world wars do back this idea that British officers didn't duck at least to some degree

[@thein-tele-gent5654]

Lloyd, keep up the applications to audible! I mean they DO know exactely who you are, correct? I absolutely love your energy when you are reading out loud. As a guy who spends an awful lot of time on the road, I could use someone who cares just as much as I do for the proper delivery of exciting material like this!

[@alainerookkitsunev5605]

Remember that Schindlers list is fiction fellas.

[@shanegrosse1393]

Which part?

[@jackofshadows8538]

Turkishnarcassistcoward So... all the Jewish old people in wheelchairs or dead and the children/grandchildren of those jews at the very end were 'just actors'? Do you mean it was an event that occurred but , for storytelling purposes, was romanticised? You are talking thru your arse. It's based on actual events. Please point out just where in the film is fiction and fact. Keep it concise though, eh? Just make your point and move on... meanwhile, I'll be doing my own research on 'Schindler's List'. edit: I just did a few hours research and i think it's perfectly SAFE to say you would have to be a 'holocaust denier' to say Oskar Schindler did not exist and , in fact, he saved 1200 lives, not 600. There are FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR too many resources to prove the movie is based on solid facts... unless the 'holocaust' did not happen.. of course? 'Schindler's List' is BASED ON HISTORICAL FACT. You don't like it? Tough titty. DEAL WITH IT. Guess what? I'm neither Isreali nor jewish in anyway whatsoever. However, I DO like to hear *THE FUCKING TRUTH*. IT IS BASED HEAVILY ON TRUTH.

[@jackofshadows8538]

Obersturnbannfuhrer?? ha ha ha ha ha!! I bet you're the kind of coward who always uses the anonymity of the internet to express your 'special kind of hatred', right? Did you enable the 'Germanic' languages in Windows just so you could put double dots over your 'U's and 'O's? Do speak openly of your neo-nazi views? I'm betting you don't. coward.

[@mememem]

Darkar Dengeno Jesus was also a real historical figure.

[@DarkarDengeno]

John D. Oh yeah... I knew the 88 part but I didn't know the 14. Neo-nazis love their codes. Almost like they're trying to hide something...

[@bigt5521]

Interesting. I must read more, and just by taking notes you can investigate flaws and deceptions in novels

[@tuppybrill4915]

3:08 You're forgiven, it's an easy enough mistake to make confusing these totalitarian, genocidal, socialist ideologues.

[@16m49x3]

socialist lol.

[@apokos8871]

so the british communists were the same as the nazis? or modern day western communists try to wipe ethnic groups? dont confuse communism with the soviets under Stalin. read Hitler and read Marx and tell me how these two ideologies are the same

[@mapesdhs597]

They're all collectivist though, which is their common unifying feature.

[@johnnygreenface4195]

apo kos It is the people in these groups who control. Not the originator. Fascism doesn't sound too bad if you read it.

[@ReckonRight]

God, you're an idiot Kerensky.

[@samgrimshaw388]

Very well composed video thank you

[@rjohnson1690]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought that book was bunk. It read like an A Team WW2 episode. I’m curious to know what you thought of Guy Sajer’s book.

[@apokos8871]

Lloyd the Soviets were allied with the nazis, not the rest of the communists. remember Guernica? remember the Greek resistance? please dont confuse these two things, its disrespectful as a history buff

[@Osvath97]

No. MOST communists (but not all) were taking orders directly from the Soviet Union. The French communist party were told by Stalin to accept the Germans as brothers when they invaded France. The same goes for the British communist party.

[@apokos8871]

that they were told something by Stalin doesnt mean they were allied with the nazis. the soviet union was not in control of any european communist parties and colectives. there never was a central authority in the movement internationally. if i tell the british communists something does it mean they have to agree? am i in control of them? i wrote "the Soviets were allied with the nazis, not the rest of the communists". you wrote "The French communist party were told by Stalin to accept the Germans as brothers when they invaded France". are you saying that the soviets were controling the French communists? can you support this with academicaly certified proof from french sources?

[@Osvath97]

Was the French communist party technically controlled by Stalin? Maybe not, but in practice it danced to the Soviet tune. The French communist party was first mostly against the invasion, though following the decrees of the Third International and what Stalin told them they began to see the Nazi invasion favourable, even sabotaging the French military (I believe Lloyd even made a video where he talks about the amount of communist sabotage in the French military). It was not until after Barbarossa that the French communist party started to actively and seriously resist. I also never said that the French communist party was LITERALLY allied with the nazis. And do not tell me to show you academic proof, this is a KZbin comment section and you are being quite silly if you think that I have that available to me just like that. I would hate to tell you to prove a negative but if you are so insistent on academic proof how about you show me academic evidence that disproves my position then?

[@apokos8871]

oh this is a youtube comment section? you can say anything without backing it up? oh silly me for wanting to have a serious conversation, i guess i didnt read the youtube rules. and the French never saw the invasion favorably, the just didnt want to die led by idiots like in ww1. if you need proof of that i can link you to some french communists to give you the sources since i dont speak the language. though i can provide facts on the greek miliant part of the communist party during the resistance and how the controled themselves, and not following orders from any outside power. and im not even a communist

[@Osvath97]

Okay so you are not providing any sources either, I guess that you do not want to have a serious conversation. I am saying information I have gathered from mostly my layman studies in history, I never said that I was a historian. This is how a serious layman coneversation is. Saying that they saw they saw the Nazi invasion favourably is too strong of a term, but they most certainly did not want to resist along with the rest of France. I am talking about the party as a whole, not individual communists.

[@shaharyarsheikh5291]

@Lindybeige I've been a fan of your channel for a while and find your content similar to a lot of things I grew up with as a boy. However it would be nice if you'd add some stuff on the British Indian army and Indian involvement in the wars etc considering its degree and importance.

[@WolfPeste]

"Fascist" work as a general term, actually, so no big mistake there. Though, it implies the sort of leader+party based dictatorship, which would also include communists and pretending that "fascism" and "communism(not literal one, but a socialist party assuming dictatorship with an excuse of building communism)" are the opposites is what communist propaganda pushes really hard. So, I guess, still a small mistake there.

[@wierdalien1]

WolfPeste i thought that was weird

[@apokos8871]

it should be noted though, that communists and soviets were not the same. the spanish communists were bombed by the nazis who were allied with the soviets. since there was never a unified worldwide communist front, different regions always had different views on many things, including the war. communists in many countries did not want to go to war for example, when, instead, greek communists formed the biggest part of the guerilla resistance during the german occupation.

[@16m49x3]

Pretty applicable to 3rd wave feminists too really :D Don't take me too seriously.

[@WolfPeste]

+apo kos Yeah, the way communist movements are so splintered reminds me of Christian denominations. Same promise of Paradise in exchange for obedience and same endless conflicts for who is the "true believer" and who is but a "heretic/capitalistic puppet".

[@quetch2]

It's always amused me somewhat that the "anti-fascist" groups that idealise the soviet union are infact supporting a fascist regime

[@MagSpud12]

In terms of the close proximity of the action depicted in the Last Panther: Is it possible that you're applying the norms of combat on the Western front (about which you have read very, very extensively), to the horrors of the East (about which you may - may - have read somewhat less)? Combat in the East reached a scale and ferocity that we never really experienced in the West, with the exception of perhaps Cassino, and certain phases of the Bulge. The Russians did get up close, and their tanks would often engage at stupendously close ranges. Bayonet fights were common, and anti-tank *grenades* were widely used. In contrast, warfare on the Western front was generally far more 'civilised', and conducted at greater distances (one of the reasons the Bocages region was so hated by the Allies - combat at such close range and with such poor visibility was an unpleasant shock). I'm not arguing that the Last Panther was/is genuine - just posing a counter to your specific point re. the nature of the combat the author describes.

[@paulpincemin5700]

As you were reading from The Last Panther I was secretly hoping his Jagdpanther would turn into a Decepticon

[@kittenkagome1]

Awesome narration!