TWO Never-Before-Seen Lenses Unveiled in ONE Day! | The PetaPixel Podcast

[@careywest]

I just wanna say, Chris is bravely breaking the rules of composition by putting himself in the left 3rd of the frame, while facing left.

[@imjooboy]

Not to mention the seam sticking out of his head!😅

[@niccollsvideo]

I’m crazy that way

[@arize84]

😂😂😂

[@j.6756]

Actually... compositionally... that works very well... he creates more seperation and therefore stands out better... the added light right side draws the eye to his frame... plus... he keeps his covid to himself and away from his collegues...

[@nickcarneyphotography]

Not sure if I missed it, but also worth noting that Nikon just allowed the Tamron 150-500 into the Z mount lens lineup. Another more compact and affordable telephoto option! Nikon really just needs a more entry level camera with fast AF and they should be the go-to brand for wildlife enthusiasts.

[@ericaceous1652]

Exactly this. The only thing putting me off of the ZF really is the body design - the same innards/processing in a competitively priced Z6 style body would be very compelling

[@misreb1]

As a Sony user, I applaud Nikon for their effort on prime telephotos. They are now compelling for any wildlife and sport shooter

[@j0hn22]

Same and same. I'm deep into Sony and wildlife and wouldn't even consider any brand other than Nikon if I could start over now.

[@thewatchkeeper3619]

@@j0hn22which makes Tony and Chelsea Northrups continual bullshit about Nikons Autofocus and lens sharpness even more infuriating

[@j0hn22]

@@thewatchkeeper3619 "It sort of ruins the credibility of your focus and sharpness test if you bang the $14K lens on the trunk lid before the test, Chelsea." - Nikon rep, probably

[@mjsvitek]

That Nikkor 600mm feels like direct competition to the Oly 300mm f/4 ... Nikon looking really good these days.

[@mpgnz73]

I seriously doubt Nikon are thinking OMS or any lenses they have as competition.

[@allencrider]

@@mpgnz73 Olympus or OMS is quite popular with wildlife shooters. I follow @arthurlefo and @brookelittlebear for their work with bears and think the quality of their stuff is exceptional.

[@Simoneister]

I thought the exact same! 1270g for the Oly, 1390g for the Nikon, same field of view. I use the Oly and love its portability. This new Nikon is the first time I've seen a legitimate competitor to it.

[@POVwithRC]

​@@mpgnz73Why not?

[@mjsvitek]

@@mpgnz73 plenty of wildlife photographers shoot OM-1 because you get so much in such a small package. Camera market isn’t very big and every lost sale to a competitor is a big deal. So yes, Canon, Sony, Fuji, OMDS, Panny… even Leica with their SL line. All of them are competition for Nikon. They’re all competing for their slice of the pie.

[@EXkurogane]

I once contemplated switching brands when moving from DSLR to mirrorless, but with cameras in general it's all about buying the right tool for the right job. You ask yourself what kind of photography you do, what focal length you shoot the most, and what is your workflow. The workflow part is just as important. My workflow? Studio product photography, scale model, and landscape account for 90% of the stuff i do. I shoot 50mm a lot in studio so I'm willing to spend on a high quality or even an exotic 50mm. Canon's RF 50 choices are hot garbage in a sense you choose between a 200 or 2000 dollar lens, with the front element of the latter actually moving, sort of a semi-external focusing group which i find unacceptable in a premium prime lens. Sony has great 50mm options but the GMs focus breathe so much that it's a nuisance to my core workflow - focus stacking, which i do both for products and landscapes. So i ended up with Nikon Z, the company that is actually making the types of glass I'd actually want to use. I don't care how many lens choices a specific mount ecosystem has. More isn't necessarily better. You can give me 10 different 50mm lenses to choose from but if everyone single one of them don't suit my workflow, they are all useless. That's exactly what the Sony ecosystem is at the moment. Focus bracketing wasn't even a feature in Sony camera bodies until the A7R5.

[@TheWahdude]

Am I alone in wanting an entire library of content from Chris delivered in his smooth radio voice?

[@ericaceous1652]

"I'm very medicated" 😂get well soon Chris

[@daydalaus]

I always listen to the podcast, I just came to KZbin to praise Chris’ pineapple pen reference. He is hilarious

[@niccollsvideo]

I was wondering who would Notice that!

[@daydalaus]

@@niccollsvideo people forget their meme history

[@JetBen555]

Apparently, the IS in the 10-20 can correct for ''wobbly corner'' (when combined with IBIS body) while shooting video.

[@victorlim5077]

The new Nikon 600mm F6.3 looks like a brilliant lens. Many choices for us Nikon shooters. 😊

[@noahwilliamlee]

I understand there are a lot of things that are affected by sensor sizes, but I also believe that sometimes sensor size is given too much importance. From what I've seen Micro 4/3 sensors are commonly used in wildlife settings, but what's to stop someone from using one for weddings? The G9ii came out and looks to be an amazing camera, but most people wouldn't consider it for it. Fuji is a great example of pushing boundaries of what sensors can do and the stigma that comes with sensor size. Fuji's apsc cameras are putting out very high quality images. I just think that people tend to push the FF envelope and try to push it as better than the rest when it may not be the reality

[@adude394]

Interesting stuff! A longtime hobbyist, I've finally started to learn the difference between taking pictures and doing photography, and to use a camera in something other than Full Auto mode. Because I'm quite happy to continue using my 20-year-old 300D, along with the used 7D and 20D I recently got, I'm planning to stay in the old school and not worry about mirrorless (for now, at least). The advantage there is that there is quite a good selection of decent used glass that's available for a reasonable price as the camera companies concentrate on the new stuff.

[@ericaceous1652]

Studio/backdrop looking great Jaron Feels a bit like Nikon is coming for m43's lunch, with all these compact teles :) not that I'm complaining, they do seem compelling. Been out photographing red deer in Derbyshire (as it's the rutting season) with a Panasonic G9 and a 100-300ii, and I've had to throw away a lot of the dawn shots (extreme low light) due to high ISO, not even Photolab could save them. One wonders which is the way to go when I upgrade in the near future - a G9 II and a brighter tele like the 200 2.8 (with/without TC), or a Nikon Z setup with the 180-600 or this new prime.

[@tannerjagim4241]

The 400 4.5 would also be good to depending on how much reach you want.

[@ericaceous1652]

@@tannerjagim4241 Good point, with that also being TC compatible

[@tannerjagim4241]

@@ericaceous1652 almost too many option to choose haha

[@PetaPixel]

Thanks! If only the television listened to the command of "never go to sleep" instead of interpreting that as "go to sleep more often." -Jaron

[@themichaelgraeme]

It feels illegal to be this early!!

:D

[@mjsvitek]

Embrace the dark side ...?

[@alistairbuchan]

Thanks for answering my question! Really insightful answers, I think I will try the 'put the photos away for a little bit' thing next time I do some intensive shooting in the future. A lot to be said for detaching from the photos you just took (unless you are on a deadline with those photos) to help you see them a bit differently. I do a lot of writing as a day job and have been using that technique often as I find that works too (again if you can afford the time needed to let it percolate). Weirdly never thought to apply it to my photo hobby. Thanks again!

[@_willpix_]

Loved the episode as always, but loved the Archer shoutout the most!

[@scottanderson2114]

I live in Idaho and these guys are totally wrong. It's a desolate wasteland that is coved in snow 8 months a year. There is nothing to see here so please move along.

[@GreenLightFlight]

Agreed. The whole visit idaho nonsense they pushing is sickening. Its no wonder to how he got sick as people here cough strait into the hand they picked there ass with before shaking your hand. Its a wonder they didn't get shot by some land owner while on the shoot. Scenery definitely ain't wort the risk to travelers, but I'm sure that won't stop them from mocking it up as if it is.

[@dominiclester3232]

7 mins in, we finally get to lenses, as per the title!!

[@Photoandcargeek]

I think that the question about pixel binning was not only about quad Bayer but also about the Leica M and it's 60Mpix and the ability to reduce the pixel count of the output. This is also rumoured to appear on the Canon R5 mark II. Good thing? Bad thing? I think that if the lenses were able to resolve 60Mpix then we would have the best of both worlds but Canon lenses don't resolve that and far from it. So what is the point? Pure marketing exercise?

[@xmeda]

10-20/4 is nice addition. 600/6.3 makes much more sense than Canon 600/11. But for such long lenses I strongly prefer zooms. So I would rather have Sigma 60-600 than this :D Sound is ok.

[@jonpaulpepen9470]

I kind of wish Nikon would bring the built in TC down to the slower, more compact and affordable primes

[@ulimuller7892]

Those Teleconverters are currently 500+$ ... so...do the math 😅

[@jonpaulpepen9470]

@@ulimuller7892 Well there's a heck of a lot more than $500 price difference between the 600 f6.3 and the 600 f4 TC... plenty of room for a middle ground option. Not sure what you're trying to get at Personally I'd like to see a 400mm f/4 with built in 1.4x TC

[@angelamaloney4871]

Jaron has a little more bass in his voice with the new mic. But Jordan sounds kinda tinny on his new one at times. Chris sounds amazing with COVID. Even before he started talking about In a world where Jaron and Flavor Hostage went to a camera store, I was thinking he should be doing movie preview narration with his COVID voice.

[@miheerporadiya]

Get well soon chris!

[@kenguru2005]

Get well soon Chris 😊

[@ateijelo]

You guys should test the digital distortion correction by having the lens project into a translucent surface you then look at from behind. It would make it clear whether correction is happening or not.

[@chennytango9298]

RF10-20 is crazy wide if not fisheye. very interested. For the 600 PF, it is hard to pick over z180-600 which is only 1/3 of the price, almost same sharpness, more versatile and same f6.3. I don't see any reason to pay 3x more for the 600 PF other than a bit lighter and smaller, but lose the ability to zoom and twice more price. hard pill to swallow on this one.

[@thewatchkeeper3619]

Sharpness to the corners, and when shooting wildlife that’s pretty much essential. Steve Perry did a good test of that and the 600 is clearly equally sharp right to the edge. Unlike the 180-600. If you’re shooting a small fast moving bird that you catch only in the corner of the frame, and it’s your one image, you’ll want it sharp all over. That’s where the cost lies

[@lucas_92]

Nice episode once again! Two cents on the mics - Jaron's definitely sounds the best. Knowing that the Shure is $500, I'd say PetaPixel could get the Rode NT USB+ for Chris and Jordan since the Profile and the Sony mic sound a little too crisp and do not control sibilants as well as the Shure or Rode mics.

[@PetaPixel]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@johannweber5185]

@Chis: Get well soon.

[@BlendyStick]

I live in Japan and the newest Pen we've got is the Olympus branded PEN E-P7 which came out in Jun 2021. The previous model E-PL10 came out in 2019, so I guess we're expecting a new OM branded Pen some time soonish?

[@anthony-qm3pn]

OM-1X with 24 megapixel stacked sensor & new image processor with bigger, dials and joystick that’s on the OM-1 to make it easier to operate with gloves on in extreme cold conditions, I want next OM system, camera slightly larger controls currently on the OM-1.

[@thestonerguy5276]

Jeez Chris, you've been a COVID magnet for the last couple years. Hope you finally shake it off dude.

[@bobk4438]

Pentax!

[@MountainBoy99]

If you found your way to Elk City, ID you found your way to the most isolated place in the lower 48 that I've ever found.

[@Jawad.1]

29:55 How about voice commands to change Aperture, Shutter Speed, etc. Much better than bigger joystick to operate a camera while wearing gloves in cold weather...!!!

[@HesDeadJim]

May I ask where you guys got the awesome intro music (and well made animation to boot)?

[@dominiclester3232]

How can Chris compare Idaho mountains with Switzerland? Has Chris seen all the summer grass, rivers, waterfalls and lakes of Switzerland or been to any of the innumerable chalet hotels? Idaho is a beautiful wilderness, but that is a very different beauty.

[@edasher1009]

audio will be beter if the mids around 2k-3k are boosted and you have audio compression. Need that to help with the articulation our ears need in order to process mumbling and Canadian accents. Without punching through with those mids its going to be mush soup. Jordan's voice has great articulation. You other two guys are mushier.

[@mikebartow9415]

Great podcast Since you like huckleberry, have you tried chokeberry? It is prevalent in North Dakota. I don’t know if it is in Alberta.

[@timlaunyc]

I knew about the sm7db, didn't know about the usb-c adapter. It looks like it has a max 60dB gain, which would work with a naked sm7b. So, where's a B&H referral link?

[@ulimuller7892]

That Nikon 600 6.3 - why not get a 400 4.5 and a 1.4 Teleconverter? 😅

[@victorlim5077]

More choices. Good for consumers. You can choose either 400 4.5/560 6.3 or 600 6.3/840 9.

[@TravelerNick]

Because you can use the TC on the 600 to get to 840?

[@freethatsoul]

Are we going to see great point ans shoot in future? Will there be a sony rx100viii?

[@donschiffer7400]

The 600 better be insanely sharp and fast. The 180-600 is 6.3 at 600, pretty sharp and cost a third as much?

[@ChrisCiapala]

Jordan's microphone is having somewhat harsh and distorted siblings, definitely more treble comparing to the others, while there is almost no bass. New Shure seems to sound best. Chris Covid-enhanced voice sounds... realistic?

[@AnthonyJGianotti]

Compact and lightweight lenses of all types for the love of god.

[@Shawns_snapshots]

This + the new nikon firmware makes me want to dump my a1

[@mackiejohnson3894]

What IEMs are Chris and Jordan using?

[@orangeofmars2835]

The 10-20 f4 is stm is a full frame lens I would only use on an APS-C body. No need for 10-20mm but 16-28 makes sense.

[@marximus4]

On Canon the FF equivalent is 16-32. But yes, it would work well on a crop body.

[@frankhopkins8423]

Sorry that this is unrelated to the conversation... Is that a Seven Samurai T Shirt Chris is wearing?

[@PetaPixel]

Sword of Doom. Good movie!

[@NotAnotherChannel_Channel]

Fujifilm, if you’re listening, do what Nikon are doing. Give us some long fast-ish prime telephoto lenses.

[@arlenspatz6739]

Medicated Chris is fun

[@A.Edilbi]

@10:02 how is the 600 prime is more expensive than 180-600 zoom ? You said we expected it's cheaper .and then told them the price 4799 .which more expensive and they agreed with you as its fair price. What the hell was that

[@hedydd2]

Milwaukee should make cameras to go with their 12V or 18V batteries that work really well in very cold environments. They have a tool for every other job so why not a camera from them and DeWalt.

[@TravelerNick]

Google V mount battery or the newer B mount. Camera batteries make those little tool batteries look well little.

[@aarong2374]

really like canon's 800 f11. I do wish they would use phase Fresnel with a faster lens.

[@marklaurendet1861]

While the new mics sound good, it would be great if they did not have to take centre stage.

[@johnc_]

When do you think there will be a new Ricoh GR? Do you think any other manufacturers will produce an APSC camera that genuinely fits in your pocket like the GR

[@praetorian65]

Funnily enough, Nikon announced theirs month before the original Ricoh GR, called the Coolpix A. Unfortunately, they were no good at marketing back then (even worse than now) as it shouldn't have been called a "Coolpix". It was a great camera and produced stunning images, though long discontinued and a bit old now. I do wish they would bring out another, but I don't think they will.

[@stprinz]

I want Sigma do a 24-135 2.8 DG DN for L- and E-Mount, could you please make this happen? 🙏

[@airdailyx]

perhaps you should have sellers & shops who were threatened by Cinestill on your next podcast to counter that terrible article you published…

[@angelamaloney4871]

Am I the one who wrote the comment about how they talk about gear but not about photography? That sounds like something I would say. Can I be a guest on the episode where they do that? :-) I’ll be in Australia and I know a great spot to go take photos of koalas.

[@alen2937]

The Rode NT USB is not a bad mic at all, but XLR well, that should improve things.

[@SlotCarNewsOfficial]

you mentioned the Rode 'thing" to plug the mic into for xlr to usbc. What is it please?

[@PetaPixel]

It's a Shure thing: petapixel.com/2023/08/15/shures-new-digital-audio-interface-converts-any-xlr-mic-into-usb/

[@zcounts]

pp boys!

[@donmcvey4879]

The Shure is clearly better than the Sony.

[@PetaPixel]

With a substantial price difference to boot! Is it a little better or a lot better?

[@donmcvey4879]

To me it seems significant, but since there are two different people's voices with different tonal range it's hard to tell exactly how much better.@@PetaPixel

[@Gobekadam]

To me, both Shure and Sennheiser sound better than Sony. I just double checked with the old podcasts, and Jordan’s voice sounds tiny with the Sony. Between the Shure and Sennheiser, I prefer Shure. And also there were some clippings for Chris in this episode - but it might be also due to him being closer to the mic. @@PetaPixel

[@mitchellwnorowski6747]

Oly 300mm comparison to the Nikon please.

[@phenomenalshots7626]

I am in the same boat with the Nikon DSLR shoot who asked about the consideration when thinking about changing camera systems. I shoot primarily weddings, events and portraits. Additionally, my focal lengths are 35, 50 and between 75-140mm. I have also been considering the Nikon zf and not for the retro style but rather the picture profile of Nikon straight out then camera. The challenge is, I live and work in Guyana and I don't have the option to test multiple camera brands before choosing a brand. Whatever I purchase I'll have to stick with for multiple years. What advise would you give to me in moving form a D5600 to a mirrorless camera. Should I stick with Nikon or should I consider another camera system and why? Thanks in advance.

[@POVwithRC]

No chance to rent cameras over there I assume? Because it would probably make your life a lot easier to try by renting before buying 💸

[@phenomenalshots7626]

@@POVwithRC correct. So once we buy it's a long term decision.

[@TravelerNick]

Unless you have D lenses all your current lenses will work with the FTZ likely better than now. D lenses won't AF.

[@praetorian65]

@@TravelerNick It would be the same experience as a D5600 has no inbuilt motor either.

[@praetorian65]

I don't think you have an awful lot to gain by switching brands at this point. Each has good cameras and good lenses and you are used to Nikon so it might be better to stick with it than to switch if you can't try out other cameras first.

[@snapchick]

I think Jordan's voice will still sound incredibly sexy regardless of what mic he uses! 😂😂😂

[@PlanetFrosty]

Are Sony’s “hot shoes” good for dancing?

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Chris, my deepest sympathy for the torture you underwent in Idaho. Those guys are heartless.

[@PetaPixel]

I felt so bad for him I was desperately trying to find a way to get him in the water, I promise. We'll make it up to him. -Jaron

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

@PetaPixel I think it's only fair you send him to New Zealand to review the new 600mm f6.3 lens. Trout jumping make great subject as does the very unique wildlife. Plus it's the start of summer here now, all your Alberta wildlife is now digging holes to hibernate. It's only fair. I can take care of him 😉

[@gunnarhellberg9178]

If Chris Niccolls would become the presenter of a fly fishing equipment review channel, I would be the first to subscribe. -Or is he perhaps already doing that?

[@PetaPixel]

Here you go! youtube.com/@BowRiverTroutfittersCalgary?si=rUjl-KyIGygy5Uht

[@tjkrueger2655]

Is the size and weight difference worth the extra $3000 over the Nikon zoom for the same aperture and reach? Eh... if any other maker released this, they wouldn't get as much fawning praise

[@POVwithRC]

Chris' soft NPR voice should become the default

[@PlanetFrosty]

Murphy Cast?

[@jbird7782]

Huckleberries are not pear shaped

[@chipcago309]

Why the guy die at the end of intro? It’s disturbing.

[@corykphotography]

Sigma 10-20mm f3.5

[@corykphotography]

It's been done

[@PetaPixel]

That’s for APS-C.

[@jean-marcbottazzi1797]

LAOWA 10-18MM @@PetaPixel

[@JuanSanchez-zz3me]

​@PetaPixel yeah, its apsc. But at least the nikon one I have can fit on full frame starting at 14 or 15mm. So while it's not a full frame 10-20mm, it does work as a 15-20mm on full frame. So you get a nice ultra wide lens for like 100 dollars

[@mmbrombe8153]

Credibility issues? I've been a fan of Chris and Jordan since their early days from the Camera Store. Always appreciate(d) their honesty and still love their chemistry. Now, however, I am concerned that the OM Systems sponsorship may be biasing their opinions and affecting their credibility. I recall Chris' and Jordan's (fully justified) disappointment at the OM-5 in their DPReview review. Recently, their opinion of the OM-5 seems to have improved dramatically - not a coincidence. I am wondering what will happen when OM releases a new camera or lens - will we get the unbiased, honest review that we've seen in the past? Or in a shootout between the new Panasonic G9-II versus the OM-1? Don't get me wrong - I am not trolling, I'm just expressing a legitimate concern. Once one's credibility is gone it is hard to recover, and I sincerely hope that Chris and Jordan don't lower their standards just to please a sponsor.

[@_o__o_]

one of them is farting constantly

[@ryankwan1934]

Jordan sounds so unenthusiastic with the OM-5 spot.

[@michaelcrapo883]

Would you guys please stop say how beautiful Idaho is. Being a native Idahoan, I understand why you say this, but would really like to not have this get out to the rest of the world. We really have way more than enough people moving here and try to change it that we don’t need more. Do me a favor and just say that Idaho is an ugly, hot, desolate high desert state. Thanks.😊

[@StylusDrop]

Jordan's Sony mike sounds pretty crappy TBH !

[@lifewithoutborders1348]

woah...only 10 views, i am very early

[@rugerthedog396]

OK, this is from an admittedly cranky old radio guy, but sorry, I’ve never liked the video look of “podcast” mics. All the podcast bros with their big black mics, all working the mic so close to get that bass boost - a giant group cliché - SNORE! I actually prefer the sound of Chris and Jordan’s field videos with lavs. Oh, and on my Zooms when I use an external mic I’ve got a neat cardioid condenser mic that’s located out of the frame and still works fine in my room.

[@chrisw443]

Chris, stop getting covid! poor guy!

[@dsimon9s29]

Isn't this like the second or third time he has come down with covid?

[@PetaPixel]

Second. Not uncommon at all. - Jordan

[@finesse49]

The continual fishing talk has gotten really old. This is a photography podcast. Leave the boring fishing talk at home.

[@luisvalenzuelateran]

Why does the guy below keep interrupting them? Annoying.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

Who's that ?

[@pompeii357]

I hate the deep voice i love the podcast , enough with the woke propoganda please

[@gerardferry3958]

so like pedo pixel

[@ilanhoward]

Should read this comment 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@jfphotography69]

$5K for F/6.3, no thank you.