TWO ways to Layout your NEXT Building Project

With the start of a new job, I've got two way you can layout your next building project. There is the Tried and True way of math and tape measures, and then there is the full proof, easy, one man way of using the Stabila LA180. If you truly didn't remember learning math in school the stabila is for you!
Looking to build your own post frame and want some help? Check out my building plans with all of our details. They are packed full of info and extremely reasonable. My designers info is attached the plans if you want to work with him to modify to fit your needs.
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[@bryanb5413]

Kudos to your concrete footing contractor for having high standards and thank you for the layout overview. Cheers...

[@purenation6831]

I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete kzbin.infoUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!

[@tennesseetrucker1921]

Kyle, i really enjoy your videos. I’ve built two log cabins in the last 20+ years, and now looking to tackle a 40’ x 92’ post frame shop. You are an excellent teacher and I’m learning lots from your videos. Bought a stabila la180 the other day and MAN, I sure wish I had that tool on my first 2 builds. Really amps up your level of precision!! Thank you sir for sharing your skills.

[@RRBuildings]

Heck yeah awesome

[@Edward-xj4mp]

I love this type of video from you guys. You're truly professionals and take an extra degree of pride in what you do. Thank you for sharing and showing the way.

[@jackww839]

Love this style of teaching! Thanks for doing this type of series👍

[@frankbever1788]

I always told people I worked with, if you don’t start out square and plumb, you can never end up square or plumb! Good job men!

[@paradoxrotations4086]

That’s right, start right end right is my motto.

[@dougfields23]

great editing on this new in depth format. look forward to learning from these new videos

[@HandlebarWorkshops]

I really wish high school math was taught with these kind of examples. With more and more kids going into the trades, they think they don't need to learn math, but this would open their eyes to why they need to know it even if they are not going into college. Laying out foundations, getting rafter angles, paint coverage, concrete volume, etc. Math teachers and tradesmen should really start working together to teach real life examples. Then the kids will be that much more prepared when going into apprenticeship.

[@jaybrown7177]

I am a math teacher for 8th graders and I show Kyle's videos in my class. I try to push my students to the trades.

[@95dodgev10]

@@jaybrown7177 hats off to you as a teacher for going the extra mile and showing real world examples. Much better than just flipping open books with empty pointless samples. We need more like you.

[@aidanbotham442]

My school is adding a construction geometry class next year, I missed out by a year unfortunately

[@WreckDiver99]

Some do. I had a math teacher that taught angles using "billiards" as the examples. They also did construction, machine layout, etc., in examples. Too bad those are the minority of teachers.

[@fallbrkgrl]

Yes!!!

[@georgeking5746]

Thanks Kyle, really informative video. Prep is key to any good job and less problems on down the road.

[@alaniz48..]

I like the way you explain why you do what you do. Great video first time watching you and now a fan

[@ikay2102]

I can't get enough of your builds. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@stevesmoes6872]

Good information Kyle. Exactly what I need for my future plans. Thank you.

[@silviasteeve]

lots of good points to keep in mind for a future shop

[@mcchupka9718]

Thank you for taking the time to make another great video, two right angles, “That’s just the way it is.” RR Buildings new motto? I imagine you always confirm the foundation is level too.

[@jteau2239]

As usual, top notch video! You have a gift for teaching.

[@Painfulwhale360]

Love videos like this. Love videos where I can learn how to become better at my craft! Thank you!

[@timquick9554]

Great review we have our brackets set. Transit elevation of each bracket and chaulk line for the outer edge of post for square/ straight walls---coming next! Just waiting on mat'l dropship to site in couple weeks. Looking forward to put all I have learned into into practice!

[@michaeldaniel7012]

Love your content. Suggestion for future video, when you trim out the large doors,can you show the trim detail inside and outside. I have searched your videos for such details but haven’t found good video of your trim details. Also show how you allow for the sectional door trim inside with lower plywood interior. Thanks a lot.

[@billybike57]

Looking forward to your next project 👍🏼

[@ftlaud911]

Well instructed video. Prep work is key to success. Great job as always.

[@markb.1259]

The Basics! Thank you Kyle!!!

[@deanehill9730]

Very well explained Kyle. Thanks for the video.

[@forrestaddy9644]

I'm a machinist used to working to 0.001" tolerances over several inches - 1 part in a couple thousand. You're working to 1/16" in 119 ft 7+". Doing the math and you'll find you've been working to 1 part in ~22,800. That's 'way closer tolerance that I used to work with my fancy machine tools.

[@daveklein2826]

How's nothing to do with building a home. LMAO

[@timbrubaker1787]

Right? But also at that distance your measurement can vary by 3/8" depending on how tightly you pull the tape. Still, that's more perfect than any foundation I've ever seen and he's like "I guess that will have to do"

[@daveklein2826]

@@timbrubaker1787 guess you just want to hear yourself YAP

[@forrestaddy9644]

@@timbrubaker1787 There's several sources of error in linear measurement by tensioned steel measuring tape and among these are tape material elasticity, tape material density, cantenary sag if the tape is unsupported horizontally, temperature, etc. If over 100 ft a steel tape is tensioned at 40 lb, tape elasticity may be calculated by section and modulus of elasticity: assuming a 3/8" x 0.012" tape you could expect about 0.09" stretch at 0.355" at 40 lb tension - close to Tim's figure. Sag error in a cantenary length vs chord length is negligable. According to a handy calculator I found on the Internet, the cantenary length vs straight line length for 40 lb tension is 5 parts in 100,000. Sag would be about 5". If those setting up the building references were consistant when tensioning the steel tape, errors for longer and shorter distances would be proportional. Temperature would be a factor also. 100 ft measured with a steel tape would be about 9/16" longer at 100⁰ degrees F than at freezing. Again proportional, other things being equal.

[@forrestaddy9644]

@@daveklein2826 It's neither polite nor constructive to troll serious inquiry. It suggests gratuitous malice and a flawed character.

[@BraxxJuventa]

Great video again Kyle. Thank you. 👍😁

[@brianwood8316]

I like the detailed, basic step by step instructional videos. More of this please. Great details and explanation where I can take notes in preparation for my build. Would love to see one on the cut station. Thank you!

[@brianwood8316]

And also on how you mark the trusses and the interior and exterior girts on the posts.

[@robertdean9392]

Great video Kyle and Greg

[@BG-vq9fd]

I always enjoyed math. It's fun for me to follower your calculations.

[@nobleroofinggeneralcontrac7961]

On the first pull when you said 1/16th off I thought wow that is not off that is perfect. Great foundation work. Thinking the site is clean as it should be excavation is nice but then you run your tape over the pile of lumber. Like an old timer I worked under moons ago that was a framer who did great work would say IT IS ROUGH FRAMING when I was throwing measurements out including 16ths.

[@shan442us]

Thanks for sharing your opinion on the hearing protection! Put myself through college framing back in the 1980's and my right ear hearing is 40% less than left ear from operating a Skilsaw for years without protection.

[@Dozz70]

Kyle......I'm a new Sub to your channel and just want to say that I really love the quality of your content brother. Wish you were in Florida....I am going to need help with putting my metal building up and I couldn't think of anyone I would want there more than you! Thank You Mark

[@FixItFrench]

Great tips, I wonder how difficult this will be when I do it my first time. You made it look easy, but I wonder how hard it will be my first time

[@middleway1885]

Cheers! Great info!

[@AUCTIONEER816]

“You don’t get time back so don’t waste it on things that don’t matter”. Thanks Kyle.

[@barney1089]

You should go to the bracket manufacturer and recommend/request some sort of center marking. A V notch, a stamp etc..

[@damongarber2014]

Content suggestion: Explain your roof and wall steel screw placement, like where at exactly on the panels. And how you maintain consistent screw depth

[@calvinfroisland4246]

Hey Kyle If you go to your calculator settings and put it in legacy mode you’ll have a backspace button. 👌

[@robsayers9178]

Great video though with some great gear as always. I really like the laser and will have to see if we get them here in NZ. I find the imperial system is a foreign language to me. Metric is the easiest to use in my opinion. Keep up the good work.

[@pedropereira8924]

Very nice video thanks!!!

[@josiahtubo]

I Always likes your work!

[@justinmanship5431]

I actually had the parallelogram analogy almost get me one time. I was pulling the doors off a little barn and was going to replace the T&G someone used with sheet goods. I took the T&G off and then checked the frame for square by pulling a diagonal and it looked great. When I set the ZIP on the frame something seemed off. I measured the sides, and they were way off. Just happened to still pull a good diagonal. Ended up just building new frames as well.

[@jimmason5738]

Fascinating.

[@BK-fy2xi]

It might be the two tone paint but Greg’s arms look like they have gotten bigger 🤣 On a serious note. Great video, simplifies the process for an overthinker. As always, looking forward to the next one.

[@pigeonpecker7623]

fantastic video

[@Teagueclay21]

Back to the old stuff Noice I do enjoy watching these barns be put up with just two people. It’s outstanding y’all. When’s your decision coming in.

[@jeffschulteis9168]

If I was a young man again, I would love to have learned the trade from you!

[@novertfrancisco6546]

Dang ...your so amazing man

[@BoandBeceadventures]

Hey bud loving the shows. Do you have one on finished or polished concrete floors? It looks like some of your projects have them but I haven’t found a video pertaining to them yet.

[@runinguy]

6:56 i was gonna say... 1/16" seems pretty darn good!

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

Yes, like you taught, I check for square after my foundation is poured 😀👍

[@user-ez5gb2qs7m]

ppe brothers better safe than sorry, great vid.

[@chancelloribberson8800]

AHH THE pppppp IN ACTION Proper Planing Prevents Piss Poor Performane another awesome video the level of detail is top notch

[@koogle612]

A squared + B squared equals C squared. Before forming my last foundations checked my drylines in addition to diagonals. Lasers check my wk.

[@wilderbeast9368]

Happy Super Month! 👩🏿‍🦰

[@joha7484]

whoaaaaa, what a curve !!!!!!!!

[@BillyLemonZest]

Just discovered you. Awesome stuff. Has anybody ever told you that you sound a bit like Chris Pratt?

[@HenrikJanssonFilipstad]

Cool, lets go

[@WreckDiver99]

Awesome as always. You've done a couple of these now, but now I get the "1-1/2"" that you always talk about. Maybe I missed it before this one. So, what I didn't see was what happens if you needed 96' and they poured the concrete say 97' (exaggeration here), so now you'll have this huge ledge of concrete sticking out? I mean, by rights your corner posts should be 95' 9" from each other so that you have the 1-1/2" for the 2x4 dimensional lumber. On one edge you do, but the other? You're going to have an extra foot hanging out...what if it was only 3"? How do you deal with those situations? Just curious, maybe its never "that" much, but I could see it happening.

[@justinrutledge6090]

Create a 90 degree angle by using the 3-4-5 method, make the other sides parallel to it, squared. You can multiple the 3-4-5 to any numbers an it will always be square.

[@daveklein2826]

I think he has that figured out

[@justinrutledge6090]

@@daveklein2826 didn't say he didn't but others might not. It's just a box nor like a complex custom home..

[@daveklein2826]

@@justinrutledge6090 LMAO

[@georgecoffman377]

Do you adjust for the temperature while using a steel tape ? Because heat will cause them to expand as much as 1/4 inch per 100 ft the same when cold will cause contraction . There is a formula to adjust + or - depending on the temperature.

[@RichardwWestmark]

Question: what changes are needed for cat-5 hurricane zones and protection from termites?

[@Zamerick13]

How would you go about measuring the bracket height if you were dealing with a basement?

[@Selurit]

Anyone else doesn’t do this type of work IRL just loves watching his videos? Because me lol

[@user-ww2jr8du3v]

Thans for your video's. I will start building my house soon and I am looking for a laser device that suite my needs. I cannot afford a lot of different types so I wonder if the LAX 600 G can also be used for the outside job (leveling foundation en squaring it)

[@srchubz]

the range isn't as great or accurate and it's super hard to get a reading, even with the card

[@MrTallyman11]

Can we get a video of the foundation being laid? I would like to see how the footing is laid out.

[@chris2884]

Please tell me what kind of post bases those are! Those are beasts and need those for a pole barn project.

[@srchubz]

Midwest Perma Column Sturdi-Wall probably

[@BoandBeceadventures]

Can post framing be done with a crawl space? Have you ever done one?

[@NSResponder]

Question for you, Kyle. If that laser receiver was also able to tell you the distance to the laser with an accuracy of 1/64", what would that be worth do you? How about if it could also tell you the azimuth and elevation of the reciever from a given established baseline?

[@tannerjones5672]

Hey Kyle, I’m looking to build myself a shop and was look for an architect to plan my shop, who do you use?

[@bradgillock9691]

How did you find the heights bracket?

[@michaelcrowson5948]

What is your professional opinion on structure; Wood vs. Steel?

[@soving]

Oh man, the form tie stubs still on the end wall are shin / ankle busters

[@shanebronson7000]

Hey. I have a question. The 180 l. I own one. And don't use it much . What setting are u on when shooting your 90s. ? Are u on the smallest setting ?

[@jimhernandez3167]

Hey master Kyle where can I get a pouch like yours?

[@lucasmancini7415]

What is the max distance the la 180 will work to. I’m sure it’s at least 200ft but just wondering. Thanks. Great video as always.

[@MsElijah16]

It’s says on the box 36 meters but my la180 receiver has trouble picking up the laser at distances over 6-7 meters at times …

[@goldennugget2031]

wont the stabila la 180 give you the grade also? or what is the purpose of using the other laser aswell ?

[@ernieforrest7218]

So if we set up a transit over the corner, and drop a plumber bob down to the corner, then line up on one of the other corners, and turn a 90 from that, whats the difference from what your doing with the lazer? Yes you do need 2 people, but you had 2 people anyway.

[@calcooper47]

Great video.. Can you use the la180 for elevation height ?

[@MsElijah16]

It can but the area of horizontal plane is a lot lower than a 360 rotary laser ,

[@av1204]

couldnt you use a dewalt 360 and a laser detector?

[@berry1002]

Hey Kyle, all my work is asbestos removal and re-sheet so I don’t get the luxury of starting with a square building. I normally run a string line along eaves to get a best fit line, then 3,4,5 of that to get the line for my sheets. Which is difficult at best to get accurate. I’ve looked into the stabila la180 but been reluctant due to price and the uncertainty whether it would work for how I intend to use it. What’s your thoughts. Will this make my life easier or should I not waste the money? Never seen one in uk. So not like I could even borrow one to try.

[@MsElijah16]

The La 180 can be unreliable at distances over 6-7 meters, I brought one my self and the receiver doesn’t recognise the laser at times

[@berry1002]

@@MsElijah16 ah all my work is 30m + so could be troublesome. Thank you.

[@29plycoupe2]

I have a question, I understand what you are doing but my question is why wouldn't you find the lowest and just and cut off to make them the same height instead of shimming? Great videos keep them coming

[@RRBuildings]

Not shimming… just making the post longer instead of cutting to the exact height I add the necessary amount to my 18’ truss heel height. This is better than cutting off and having less than 18’ in some spots

[@kherrera2009]

Do they have a green laser version of that lay out machine?

[@wilfriediung2879]

Bonjour de France

[@charlesviner1565]

hello 🖐✌

[@philiprush2462]

To within How many atoms of accuracy are you looking for? I use the 3 molecule 4 molecule 5 molecule rule. Or Do you prefer the 3 atom 4 atom 5 atom rule?

[@riff2072]

Do not steel or metal 300' tape measures need to be corrected for low temperatures due to expansion and contraction?

[@2nickles647]

I guess. If you want to correct for wood expansion and expansions.

[@doritleis2773]

This new Project. The Foundation is ready. Actual the Exact Structure to Calculate, and to the Foundation mark. This first Work is the regulation for complete Work Time. It Beginn a Interesting Video Time. Greeting 🇦🇹

[@daveklein2826]

NO,what he did was right

[@edgarmedina07]

Kyle question bro do you have a promo code I can use for diamondback vest 701 ? It would help lots bro with that crazy price I saw your bags but I really liked the vest .

[@jackp2323]

I’m new to the Midwest (Iowa)…how deep is your footing? Below the the frost line? I know you dig your column footings deep with the bell housing

[@RRBuildings]

4’

[@jackp2323]

@@RRBuildings Thanks Kyle

[@charlesviner1565]

Davenport Iowa, 42 inches

[@chrisjohnson8131]

Where do you buy your metal post brackets at? I'm interested in the ones you wet set in piers. Thanks bro

[@gwilliams1001]

I believe he uses Midwest Perma Columns

[@nincompoopgarage9286]

I clicked on your channel and first thing I see is an FBI building ad ? That can't be good LOL

[@RRBuildings]

Why.. lol that’s funny

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

I wore my laser goggles to be safe watching this video

[@ericamlin1460]

👍

[@kdiddy970]

God Mode concrete sub. Woah.

[@casycasy5199]

great video you explained everything very well.....,but got me confused at the end.you marked +5/16 on the brackets and then said i first went and found my high spot and made that zero.if thats the case how can you then have a +5/16 ??

[@jakemorrison1352]

The high spot would correlate to a shorter post. The +5/16 are “low spots” meaning the post will need to be 5/16” longer to make the truss pockets perfectly level.

[@casycasy5199]

@@jakemorrison1352 thanks, id had my head up my ass .need to watch when im more awake.thanks again

[@fajsecuritysolutions4246]

Thanks so much for tNice tutorials video, it helped so much!

[@valeravigoa8282]

what the name of app on your phone for angle calculation?

[@racerx3669]

you checked for square with intention of < 1/16” but you left the obstacle in the middle? what’s the point?

[@xxxmikeyjock]

I am buyinmg one of these, it has a horizontal plane... so can I shoot it, determine a H.I. and use it for elevations as well?

[@srchubz]

yes

[@xxxmikeyjock]

@@srchubz bought one. its made pretty shitty. I dont own any other stabila stuff, my lazers are all Spectra, and this seems very cheaply made, like a chinese knock off that you would get to test the idea of a good tool to see if it will work for you. like the harbour freight metal cutting saw and once you try it you go get the milwaukee for the job site. it almost seems like the gears are stripped in the base right out of the box so trying to manually dial it close is fruitless, it doesnt seem to auto search like I thought they showed in this video. the concept is great for the layouts I do on every job but this tool is not up to professional use IMO

[@allthingsgrowing]

i know this video is a year old. Can you explain how you are determining the control point on your building when you go around and measure elevation for each bracket? Why did you pick that spot to put your laser head on the tripod? That always seems to be what people dont cover.

[@srchubz]

he picks what he feels is the HIGHEST bracket and that's his zero. so the other brackets are lower (the 5/16 example) and they need to "add" material to get it to zero. around 21:45 he talks about it

[@lex4770]

What framing belts do you guys use?

[@srchubz]

those look like Diamondback Tools

[@jeroenkleijn6319]

Could I use the LAX 600 G to do layoutwork outside ?

[@srchubz]

the range isn't as great or accurate and it's super hard to get a reading, even with the card (I have tried)