Layout For Beginners: Easy Step by Step

[@pferguson]

Surveyed for about 10 years (Civl design / CAD for 20 years…now CAD manager). Staked a LOT of houses. You hit all the important points and mentioned some of the pitfalls. Very well done. Thank you for emphasizing elevation when laying out. Remember…slope in the site creates another triangle. If you hold a tape close to the ground, on a slope, and don’t use a plumb bob (or some other manner of “leveling” the tape), you’re measuring along the hypotenuse.

[@horstszibulski19]

It's all about time that Greg gets his own mic, would like to listen to him! 👍👍👍

[@antsbantsb8430]

facts'

[@TheBeerbelly007]

I have to say this again, who ever is filming this is doing a really good job.

[@MrSergebb]

Starting the day with sprinkled donuts is literally the key to accurate layout.

[@daveyboy8907]

Bad diet

[@xxxmikeyjock]

fact

[@bernardbuhrs8639]

Pro Tip of the day

[@smcox1991]

@@daveyboy8907it’s the only diet to have

[@tbabajan]

And crashing 30 minutes later 😂

[@jeffbalog5161]

Awesome video very helpful, I’m a greenhorn and understood every thing you taught. Communicated well and what helped I think for me is you went to the field and actually laid out a building site, hands on is a great teacher thanks.

[@harithabdulrasoul2673]

Great job guys As an Engineer its always a joy to watch accurate measurements and the dedication to achieve that. And I couldn't agree more with what you said about starting accurately because it will definitely be a compound effect. Keep up the good work

[@psidvicious]

I’m glad you guys did it the right way, by simply doing the calculation. So many other “layout” videos try to tell you, just measure your diagonals and make adjustments until you get like-diagonals. No, a thousand times NO! You can have like diagonals and not have a single square corner in the whole thing. (Do a search for isosceles trapezoid and you’ll see what I mean.) Plus, this is just faster and eliminates all that back and forth nonsense.

[@darinroske1189]

The reason the batter boards are normally set at a 90 to the corner using 3 stakes and two boards attached to each other is to help eliminate the movement you experienced when you pulled your lines tight and had to re-adjust the corners. It makes the batter boards rock solid. If they do deflect from the string tension at all, it is in the same direction as the string is pulling so it doesn't affect the location of the string.

[@Christian6.1803]

Perfect explanation. Especially the parallelogram adjustment. Brilliant.

[@alexanderbrozel7284]

2:48 I looked it up and the typical expansion for a steel tape at 90F would be 21/32” per 100’. Didn’t think it would be that much, but there you go.

[@jeff-w]

I didn't believe you so also checked. Sure enough, for a ∆90°F, a 100’ length of steel changes around 0.7in. 😮

[@allynmcfarlin2074]

I have laid out several houses and really appreciate the detail in your instructions. Well done.

[@antsbantsb8430]

as a Carpenter in New Zealand this is another awesome vid- and yes this is exactly how we do a setout also- yep the 1/8th over that distance is not important, well done you two!

[@larryb131]

just had to say this video was awesome. I've watched about a dozen videos on this, and this by far was the best I've seen. Clear, thorough, and even explained in detail how to fix issues. Bravo!

[@hammertime7349]

I think this is the best video for how to get things square on KZbin. Very simple to understand for the guys who don’t do this type of work for a living.

[@firemanj35]

Great tip on using steel tapes. Solid tips, Kyle.

[@georgeking5746]

Thanks for the tutorial. I understand batter boards a bit more, and setting them up. Also helped me understand the laser level and its use a bit more.

[@Shanks344]

Thank you for diving into the small details! I love learning from pros like you and especially Greg! even the time to do that small diagram really helped clear up what was happening in my head.

[@markmillers4491]

Why at 7:24 did you add 2" to your hypotenuse of 87 4 1/2?

[@dogssalty1686]

I wish someone would answer this question please.

[@KrazyKajun602]

As usual great job and the 1/8" can be made up exactly when placing the brackets in the wet set on the pier.

[@drubrandon5003]

This is second video of yours I watched very informative and clearly explained I have a temper when working you stayed cool and are clear can tell you have years of experience in what you do hit all points clearly then make it even clearer thank you😊

[@joecimbak3974]

Glad you had problems. Because I always do! Ha. PS - I just did this ALONE on a 36 x 50. I was dying for a helper. But alas when you are alone you have to make do. And I did. It just took me 1/2 an afternoon to get it to where I was about 1/8" out. I had a sense of satisfaction however when I was done. I walked a lot that afternoon...up and down and across that layout a million times.

[@jacobreinen5392]

Really loving and appreciating your great content!

[@rickysdrywall5288]

This is the best layout video I've ever seen! Thanks!

[@thegarbagegladiators4735]

I wish I could find a video that could start from the VERY beginning. All the videos I watch are guys talking about it assuming you have some sort of experience. I need to learn from day one!!! 😩 assume I've never laid one brick or nailed one board and start with that.

[@KingHarry1]

What add two inches to your diagonal dimension in layout?

[@markb.1259]

EXCELLENT video Kyle and Gregg!!!

[@pags409]

Shout out to my fellow Eagle Scout and forgetting knots!!! hahaha Great video thank you for the lesson!

[@brittney_4]

Literally building a shed this weekend and this was the best possible timing for this video. Always the best tips!

[@bernhardjanssen9284]

r I will give your camera man a big compliment he is a real professional keep up the good work !

[@brendoncox9683]

I appreciate your time and explanation of this process… Thank you and well done 👍

[@OurLifeBlock]

great vid, wish this came out about three years back before i built our house ;)

[@Iamtherodlight1453.]

Awesome, thank you Bud. for all the information.

[@Ty1on3twelve]

Excellent video. I enjoy this phase of the build and the attention to detail. I've watched all your videos and this one really detailed the layout that's repeatable by the professional or the novice. I will be using what I've learned here to build a shed and to layout a concrete pour on another project. Hi Five Kyle.

[@LordoftheCats]

Good info. I can testify that if you don't get this step right you WILL pay for it in time, material, and appearance the further you go with the project.

[@vladbelonozhko339]

Laying out today perfect timing!

[@matulala2000]

Great video guys! This is so helpful.

[@columbuspalmer846]

Great work guys. I’m learning a lot.

[@rwm5518]

Thank you for an excellent tutorial - and very well put!

[@carolynelrod9994]

toward the beginning of the string layout for the pins, you added 2 inches to your diagonal calculation, but you didn't explain the reason for doing that. can you please explain? when you set the strings on the batter boards you explained about" burning a foot" on the measuring tape and i completely understood that part.

[@FixitAll]

It would be a great picture if you use a drone to see these four angle measurements from the sky 😉. Anyway, it's great, and thanks for this tutorial!

[@BWIL2515]

Excellent video on layout

[@MustardMade]

17:22 look at that trust! Dream team right here!

[@danreich5030]

You ARE an Eagle Scout!... Once an Eagle, ALWAYS an Eagle. REMEMBER the oath you took at your Eagle Scout court of honor,... you are marked man! I would say through your video series you have kept your promise to help others a long life's path. CONGRATULATIONS Kyle. You're doing the great job with your KZbin channel I haven't left any other comments on any of your other videos yet...... but here's what I have ascertained... Your ability to communicate your "fussy Carpenter" mentality and mindset, is intoxicating. In a world of things done Shawty and quickly, watching you work has been a breath of fresh air. Nice to know that there are still men like you out there doing things the right way! As an old-school Carpenter, Scoutmaster, father, and woodsman..... I have really enjoyed the channel. And all of it seems to be recorded, and edited with a strong dose of respect for your co-workers, honesty and humility. From what I can see,... and I doubt that this is just edited in., .. these seem to be the cornerstones of your character.... keep up the good work! I am the proud father of three quality sons who also are Eagle Scouts. I will stop by a job site with donuts someday. -Dan "Pogo" Reich

[@derrickpayton7774]

Great pointers. Thanks for the good simple but practical info.

[@jeanchery7246]

Great teaching 👍

[@cjames1322]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. You guys are awesome.

[@fritterdrummer1258]

Hi Kyle! You ever try using an EDM? Set up once. Shoot your corners, post holes, etc. efficient and fast. Might be a little overkill for your work, but worth a look.

[@christian9733]

When we do batter boards., we brace stake against the pull of the string.

[@whith5184]

Great video. I think longer shots of the layout would work a little nicer when talking about how it might be out of square. Like, if you think one corner of off, show a long shot of the whole layout instead of just pointing to it? But it was great that you drew out the square so we could see how the dimensions were off. T hank you!

[@TaylorsAuthenticTraditions]

One thing that wasnt mentioned was how to setup the transit and then why and where you set up the receptor on the measuting stick.

[@RevMotionWorks]

Great job! Do you have any layouts of a walkout basement on a slope? How do you set your batter boards?

[@nugreg24]

This was very helpful! Thanks for the videos as always, such damn good work.

[@MrPhilthereal]

Kyle… you’re awesome 🤩

[@tylerlee5349]

Could you use your laser tape you use for studs to square up those strings if the guy on the other end held up a little board or something for a backstop?

[@robertlaird6746]

3rd I'm going to build several buildings on my land. One of them will be a 64 by 40 and the other will be a 72 ft. diameter geodesic dome made out of round pipe. The geodesic dome will be a very difficult foundation to lay out and plus I plan on doing it with ICF blocks which adds complexity to it. The top of the ICF blocks will be about 3 ft. off the concrete slab and then I'll start the construction of the geodesic dome on top of the ICF. It needs to be very accurate.

[@leonardomarchezi6580]

Vocês são muito bons adoro vocês

[@jtechboy]

I hope this isn't a dumb question. But.. that first batter board set.. you set it above the gavel by? Or an inch up? Just eyed it? I was worried that with the brackets later on you would need to be higher for the string? I get that then all the other batter boards would be same level. It looks like you have 5 to 6 inches clearance when you put the lines up on the high point. Thx for the video

[@WorldWideWillem-360]

ORANGE PAINT CAN !!! I bought one of those, used it for a bit and the next day no paint was coming out anymore. Reading the fine-print on the can, I discovered that after using it upside-down, you have to spray a bit in normal position to clean out the nozzle. Your can may be different, but carefully read the instructions, otherwise 15 bucks wasted after 15 seconds of use....

[@ronaldnaeyaert3653]

Does the electrical stub outs dictate the building position

[@Esimmons1717]

I would like to learn more about the different details you do for different types of insulation as I am sure you are constantly making decisions all throughout the build due to insulation choice

[@Jason-o5s]

Cheer~~~the way in which the parts of something are arranged or laid out.😊

[@charlesreed1207]

Great video!

[@BraxxJuventa]

Thanks Kyle. 😁👍

[@squid7902]

8x12 concrete pad not square want to build 8x12 shed. Should i build shed square at 8x12 but will overlap some and underlap some or build a few inches smaller with a drip edge around base to shed water? Thanks in advance

[@AllstarVentures]

1/8” has always been close enough for me. 👍🏼especially at that distance

[@stevechambers2401]

Hey Kyle, what brand are your sunglasses? I like the thick sides to prevent sun coming in.

[@BoxTruckVagabond]

I can see why you guys have so many sunscribers. I've watched a couple of your videos and have learned so much. One question, @ 29:53 you said Greg needed to go that way 1/4. You didn't show what he moved. The nail/string? Again, awesome video!

[@andrewbodine5663]

What gravel base do you always start your builds with?

[@jonmarshall7916]

Yes, I’m wondering the same thing?

[@delmasskipper]

Can you build something as small as a backyard Shed using post frame construction? Would love to see you do that as a smaller build series.

[@damienfauolo6613]

Great video the only question I have is how did you find to only move exactly 1- 1/16”

[@tc9148]

Great tutorial.

[@otisshaw1]

Great videos , I’m wondering why you said add 2.5” to the diagonal ?

[@thedge7]

Do you ever have a land surveyor layout you location?

[@SBecktacular]

Do any of your vids show a layout where a part of the structure sits on post or pier off the side of a hill? Would love to see how you guys do that👌

[@rerolley]

They build in Illinois. Not many hills.

[@stancotton4778]

There plenty of hills and valleys in Illinois. Drive it sometime or look at a topographical map. You'll change your mind.

[@lisawallace3124]

@@stancotton4778 while yes there are hills & valleys in IL, I'm literally from the same town and most of where they're building-for the length of a building-is flat flat flat!

[@stancotton4778]

@lisawallace3124 Ok.. you win that one. I don't know what town it is, but I've driven through southern IL and I didn't think it was flat.

[@lisawallace3124]

@@stancotton4778 Franklin Grove is in Northern IL, maybe an hour's drive from the Wisconsin border 😉

[@fuegoman45]

Sheet Bend = Best knot for joining two pieces of rope or sting. Similar to a square knot. 🤙❤️

[@spruce_goose5169]

sheet bend is ideal for ropes of dissimilar diameter.

[@johnbkinzer980]

How do you set your batter board if you don’t have a laser level?

[@AllstarVentures]

Water level

[@BlueDiamondHardscapes]

If you made your measurement with the initial screws at your dimension and then set your batter boards further back outside those pins, how did you measure the same dimension off your batter boards ? Wouldn’t they be a different dimension ? I’m just confused on that part of the layout

[@hindzer]

what app are you using on iphone ?

[@gainesinlife]

Great video as always... Just so you know, You edited the same 2 bonus clips at the end.

[@HomerKM1914]

Where did you get your Stabila REC 300 Digital receiver?

[@rhinners3407]

Good Video!🙂 Thanks for great quality video and attention to detail too!

[@ismaelmoreno4315]

Quick question. What is the equation of how do I determine the spacing between poles on a 40ft length, with 5 6x6 post. Is the 40ftx12=480 480-5.75 = 474.25 474.25 / 5 = 94.84 so 7.90 between the poles? I was told 8 ft on center because 40/5, but having trouble. Would love some help, tried to watch you KZbin videos on how to determine it, but was unable.

[@risby2]

There's something to say for ground that has no rocks

[@TheMartin24]

Thank you bro!

[@stormcrow1112]

Awesome video! We just had the trees removed and the site root raked for our 60'x80' post frame barn. Your videos are our inspiration. Is 24" diameter for your post piers required or can you do 12" diameter? I only have a 12" diameter auger.

[@tedsheldon11]

Why add the 2"? Also this is one of the best videos on square I have seen in a long time! (Essential Craftsman would be proud!)

[@aux4coxwain]

Greg is probably holding on the 2” mark. The ends of the tapes aren’t accurate with the metal hooks etc on the ends of them.

[@tedsheldon11]

​@@aux4coxwainthanks, was thinking that but... Not a framer so thought I missed something

[@anthonymorrow3818]

When squaring up, the angled line was 87' 4 1/2", then you said plus 2", making the angled line 87' 6 1/2". What is the plus 2" for, please? Just so I understand... I might have missed something you said. (Thank you for your videos, so far, yours are by far the most educational and explained. Thank you!)

[@toddharper-ok]

I also was wondering this. Kyle, please help. Thanks for the great video!!

[@MosinMan76254]

Do you know what a clove hitch is? It's used a lot in the fire service and one you should never forget.

[@samdevbekah]

I didn't catch why you add two inches to your diagonal measurement after it was figured out on the calculator. From 84'4 1/2" to 84'6 1/2". Im looking to build a 40'X64'. Thanks

[@jeffsloan6946]

Maybe burning a couple inches on the tape measure. In his older layout video he burns a whole foot so the person holding the other end of the tape measure has something to hold on to. I've laid out several buildings using Kyle's methods taught in this video and the older one. It works great!

[@normandfontaine5508]

What is the english name of the ajustable alumiun stick that hold the laser recever.? The stick that they put on rock to get the laser signal. Sorry english is not my first language. Tank’s for helping me so I can buy it on the web.

[@normandfontaine5508]

Oh I just found it the name is Hi-Lo Elevation Rod . Stabila make it.

[@brickbybric]

Reef knot / square knot . Right over left and under .left over right and under .

[@jrh3417]

is there a reason for the extra thick gravel bed?

[@xxxmikeyjock]

soil settles as it is a decaying organic, gravel is inert. I was thinking 'why is that pad not packed hard as concrete?'

[@2nickles647]

Ask the owner of the property.

[@timelliott6036]

You gave the dimensions as 59’9” and 63’9” but you did not give size of the post. I am assuming the size of the post, but others doing a different size building with a different sized posts will need to calculate different numbers, correct?

[@lwadeallen]

No, that's the outside edge of the post, then the 2x6 stringers on the sides of the building add 3" to the dimension.

[@timelliott6036]

@@lwadeallen, that makes sense… I just don’t do construction, so did not know…. Thanks!

[@DarkstarReborn]

Good layout video. However, why is last couple of minutes redone?

[@crystalsnow3628]

Hi, we're in northan AZ. we can not find anyone to engineer a post beem building. Would you be willing to sell a set of plans of 40x70 with 16-foot walls? It's been a nightmare we've been looking for months now. There's only metal framed out here! By the way we love your channel

[@sparky178]

When I had my house built 13 years ago the foundation guys used GPS to lay out the basement walls. Not entirely sure how that works, have you heard of that?

[@michaelallen1835]

Kyle, do you know of anyone that does your kind of post frame build in East Texas?

[@coltonblood2776]

What kind of pencil u use?

[@minnickfamilyfarm]

What is your service area for projects?

[@JD-ft2lr]

Watched your "Layout like a pro" video too. Everything is clear to me except in this video your diagonal was plus 2 inches. Can someone please explain the plus 2 inches part?

[@lukelong8422]

Why do you layout your strings 3” smaller then the actual size of the building?

[@bpdp379]

He’s laying out the columns. The column will have a 1.5” piece of lumber (girts) on the outside, so together they make up the 3”

[@aaronmdjones]

This is going to be a post-frame building. He needs to figure out where to set piers so that he can mount brackets for columns. As @bpdp379 said, those columns will then get girts affixed to the outside, and those girts will make up the dimension of the building. The building is going to be 60x64, so the columns need to be 1.5 inches less than that on all sides, or 3 inches less side-to-side.

[@lukelong8422]

@@aaronmdjonescopy that, makes sense. I drew my own plans for a 32x40 and as of now I have the outside of my post at those exact measurement. If I set them at that will run into any dimensional issues later on. Like as far metal or trusses fitting right?

[@aaronmdjones]

@@lukelong8422 If you're doing a post-frame building, you need to account for the thickness of the girts. Otherwise no. He's only pulling the string back 1 and a half inches on all edges because he'll be setting brackets flush up against the string, the posts will go into those brackets, and then the girt will make up the difference. If you're stud framing you'd make the strings the exact dimension because the studs are the outside dimension. Sheathing and siding doesn't count, unless you want to make it so.