Easy to Fly, Fun to Master: FMS F-16 70mm Review

[@garretpickens5745]

Own this plane and by far one of my most favorite edf’s to fly and gets awesome flight times for a jet. I have got 6min flights with a gen ace 4000mah doing scale flights.

[@TwoBrosRC]

This jet is capable of all sorts of scale aerobatics - and that includes aggressive high-G maneuvering too!

[@jayaustin3096]

You did such a great job reviewing that plane now its backordered. Mission accomplished my friend. I will buy one in time. Thanks.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks a lot!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for the mention on crimping servo wires! I appreciate that.

[@TwoBrosRC]

No problem 👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@TwoBrosRC now we just need to get you into helis…. lol

[@TwoBrosRC]

Probably won't happen lol

[@travisjacobus3381]

Thank you for this video! Best video out there on this jet, especially showing what it’s actually capable of. Just ordered one of these and must have watched this 5 times already. So pumped to rip it around!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad it helped!

[@travisjacobus3381]

Thank you! It definitely helped me to pull the trigger on the purchase. My wife won’t be happy when another giant box shows up but 🤷‍♂️. Make sure to let your wife know she did a fantastic job filming 👍

[@ghettoninja1750]

Goodluck with maiden!

[@jesserc24]

Awesome recording from your wife! Loved the video Jon.

[@Hughejazshole]

Agreed… I love how he shows her respect instead of caller her “camera crew”.

[@xcelerationrc5730]

Very nice, I keep eyeing the 70mm F18 but just haven't pulled the trigger yet. That F16 looks like a great flyer though.

[@duonesmith]

Love my F-16 70mm . One of my best flying 🛩️

[@Bigcheif-hm1nt]

I’d like to get this hopefully soon

[@LoveRC]

When the remote ID goes into effect, will you still be able to fly at your little airport?

[@TwoBrosRC]

There's no reason why not, we'd just have to have RID installed in each aircraft.

[@ltfadl1]

It's not cool at all. What's going on with the remote ID stuff is mind knumbing. 😐

[@LoveRC]

@@ltfadl1 I just mean there is a means for Jon to fly legally. I love his content. Not that I like this remote ID stuff. It is definately FAA overreach to regulate a toy. We have flown for years without incident. Dispite all the fears there has been very few problems other than bad actors. And they will not be eliminated by these regulations.

[@ltfadl1]

@@LoveRC I knew what you meant, and agree with you on the overreach. I was just releasing tension about the FAA stuff. LOL. I was listening to Flight Test and a few others talk about this and it doesn't look good in any way for us hobbyist and recreational Pilots, at least in the near future or they drop this situation all together.

[@doman861]

Hi from the UK, love your channel. Nice to see planes flown to their full potential. Could you answer me a question. I've got voltage sensor on my avanti using nx8 tx. How do you get it on a switch ? I've got the voltage being read out at certain times but think you've got it on a switch. If you could reply that would be awesome. Keep safe

[@TwoBrosRC]

We can't guide you through the process on your NX8, but we can say that it can be done - you'll need to check the manual which should have audio macros you can reference. Or check the NX8 thread on RCGroups.com - someone with the radio has most likely asked how to set this up specifically with theirs already.

[@SlowFlyer85]

great looking jet nice flying I still learning on a Habu 50mm first jet for me great video

[@TwoBrosRC]

You can easily move up to this jet from your Habu when you feel ready!

[@SlowFlyer85]

@@TwoBrosRC thats what im hoping I can get to this stage noticed you balanced the jet up wright not upside down like low wings

[@scottmurray2239]

Great video 👍 I have always been a fan of the F16. I am new to flying and love this offering. Especially since you said it is a good jet for a new flyer. Unfortunately the website you referenced says they are out of stock ☹️ Any idea when they might be available again? Thanks for a Great video 👍 I just subscribed to your KZbin channel and Instagram

[@TwoBrosRC]

We must have gotten sent the last one. Fortunately, Horizon has them in stock and you can pick one up via bit.ly/3XB4zS2

[@billyhighfill]

Heck ya.

[@davidgerlach1132]

Excellent video as always, Sir TBRC! I've always loved the F-16 mostly for its looks but clearly also for its ability to effortlessly carve the sky. Is there some particular reason why you didn't perform any inverted passes, or any inverted flight in this video? If you told me I could fly an RC version of this beautiful bird 25 years ago when I began flying RC prop planes, I was flying my 65" Goldberg Extra 300 w/YS 140 powerplant, I'd tell you that you're crazy. Fastforward 23 years and WOW how things have changed. Saying that, between EF F-16 Thunderbird 70mm and the FMS "equivalent" you prefer the FMS with the reflex (I suppose similar to AS3X/SAFE)? Also, what exactly "excels" or propels (yes pun) the FMS version of this 70mm F-16 against the EF version? I understand the subpar plastic wheels, but Horizon and FMS are always looking for ways to cut corners, save costs. Case in point, the front nose gear/strut on the EF T-28 Trojan 1.2m. It's simply an afterthought compared the rest of this awesome aircraft. I've gone through 4 of them at $14 each in under 100 flights. As for decals, maybe you had a bad experience in South Dakato? 🙁

[@TwoBrosRC]

We took Reflex out and just use the AS3X gyro associated with the AR637T. Our gains are in the setup info at the rear of the vid.

[@JT83_RC]

Great flight ✈️ I've had lots of issues too with waterslide decals not a fan!!

[@Urban-z3x]

I’m buying one when I can in 3 months

[@Sep141]

awesome flying! love the example of how changing weight and CG affects flight performance?

[@billyhighfill]

I love your content 💪

[@russcole5685]

Nice video. How difficult would it be to modify to full stabalators. Cut, glue and pivot. Is there room to modify do you think. With respect that there is a lot of work needed to achieve

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'd have to chop them off cleanly, then add a gimbal system so the stabs can rotate freely while attached to the servo. It would be a lot of work. We've seen someone on YT do it before but it was only on a Short.

[@keitha.9788]

How would you compare the flight characteristics of the FMS F16 70mm to the FMS Yak-130 70 mm V2? (On the ground, the Yak seems to be a bit more stable with slightly wider landing main gear.)

[@TwoBrosRC]

The Yak is less of a beginner aircraft and is more capable pitch-wise due to the upward thrust angle. The F-16 is more stable in the sky and can perform high alpha. The Yak is more stable on the ground, but still capable of tipping over.

[@williamculbreath5443]

Hey buddy, I’m getting ready to retire and I need a hobby. I’ve never flown an RC plane but I want to get into the nanny millimeter F4 Phantom the 1700mmP 51 mustang.and 80mm B1 Lancer What would you recommend for me to start out blind where I can get up to those jets? I just told you about. Thank you for your help.

[@TwoBrosRC]

If you're looking to learn to fly model aircraft, your best bet to start out with is the AeroScout from Horizon Hobby: bit.ly/3SRtfFF This kit comes with everything you'll need to get started. As your skills progress, you can consider moving to more advanced prop-driven planes and EDF jets. We'd definitely recommend starting with the AS. It's durable, easy to repair, and inexpensive.

[@williamculbreath5443]

@@TwoBrosRC How long does it take and how much practice to step up to the war birds and the 90 mm F4 Phantom thank you for your help

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's up to you and how your skills progress over time.

[@williamculbreath5443]

@@TwoBrosRC what do you think about the FMS 1220 Ranger again thank you for all your help

[@williamculbreath5443]

@@TwoBrosRC Or the Habu STS 70mm EDG SMART JET Hey thank you buddy

[@theStirp]

You should add live speed meter to all planes gives guys an idea speed differences

[@TwoBrosRC]

Speed is something that we really don't care about on this channel, but thanks for the suggestion!

[@anthonymastino483]

Would still like to see its FMS 70mm F-18 Super Hornet Stablemate on the channel too

[@TwoBrosRC]

We'll get one eventually.

[@martinjacobsz5642]

Very cool! What’s the top speed?

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea, we don't really worry about speed.

[@williamjones1768]

MORNING Sir! Can you use the Dx6e for trust reverse?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Probably not.

[@timeflys3322]

The fms website says it comes with a 70amp esc and 1850kv motor. So did you swap the motor and esc for this flight or does website have wrong power system listed?

[@TwoBrosRC]

The site info is outdated. All 70mm FMS jets use 1900kv inrunners now.

[@roebicholler]

I have bought the freewing f-16 70mm v2, do you think that these two have similar handling?

[@TwoBrosRC]

They should be pretty similar.

[@roebicholler]

@@TwoBrosRC thanks for the answer, looking forward to warmer weather so i can test it out :) Hopefully i can learn to fly it as good as you do! Keep up the great work.

[@jayford4685]

So this or the FMS Rafale? I'm newbie to EDF and rookie pilot but been into rc for 35+yrs

[@TwoBrosRC]

The 64mm Rafale and 70mm F-16 are suitable choices for newer pilots and offer a lot to experienced ones, too. Either one comes highly recommended.

[@Tommydoestuff]

do you think this is the best first 6s? i love this jet but i don’t know if i can fly it

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's a solid choice for newcomers to jets given how docile it is and how nearly impossible it is to stall.

[@Tommydoestuff]

@@TwoBrosRC thank you! no one else replied to me so i’m really happy. As long as it can fly slow without stalling i should be good because i do fly big planes but they are slow and i’ve only ever flown a umx edf so as long as it can go slower i’m happy.

[@Reptielenfreak]

@TwoBrosRC how did you do the flapperons? mine work in opposit direction when i set my setup to flapperons. so one up one down...

[@Reptielenfreak]

never mind i was to fast with my question

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to see you sorted it out.

[@Reptielenfreak]

​@@TwoBrosRC oké still one question, so the leads are split so they are nog seperated. so you put them on a different channel in your reviever? how do you set them up on your transmitter can you help explain the final step, thank you in advance

[@flanker-zy18]

How does the foam quality of this one compare to the 70mm f18?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's the same kind of foam but the mold used is better so the model looks cleaner.

[@publicname515]

What do you prefer this or the eflite one?

[@TwoBrosRC]

They're basically identical.

[@publicname515]

@@TwoBrosRC Wow really the Eflite 80mm looks wayyyy nicer in the videos.

[@TwoBrosRC]

The 70mm E-flite jet is basically identical to the FMS 70mm, is what we're saying here. The 80mm is in another league entirely.

[@publicname515]

@@TwoBrosRC Oh okay got it ! Thanks I'm going to save up for the Eflite 80mm then.

[@3v1Bunny]

so does it fly better without the missiles and bells and whistles ?

[@TwoBrosRC]

They're so light that they're unlikely to make any difference.

[@TheAWallace1212]

Just curious how they measure jet wing span. I noticed they are much smaller sizes then timber’s etc. you mentioned 70mmon this one.

[@TwoBrosRC]

70mm is the size of the ducted fan powering the model, not the wingspan. This should be an 800mm wingspan.

[@TheAWallace1212]

@@TwoBrosRC gotcha. Thank you!

[@velocistafpv]

I like this. Just started learning to fly with the 64mm Rafale, probably not the best to start with but I'm enjoying myself so far. Does the FMS 70mm F16 have thrust reverse as I'm having a short runway to play with? Happily suprised that the Rafale had it.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It does not have thrust reverse. You could add an Avian ESC for it though.

[@InfinityUSEA]

much love for ace combat fans! hit me up if u wanna play sometime!

[@anatoliybor2620]

From where you have bought it?

[@TwoBrosRC]

We didn't. FMS sent it to us to review as we mentioned.

[@chriselliott4199]

What’s easier to fly the 64mm A-10 or this?

[@TwoBrosRC]

The F-16 by far. The A-10 isn't hard to fly but it's not as capable of slow flight as this jet is.

[@TheGrimgta]

does it come with batteries charger controler

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nope, it's a PnP, not a RTF.

[@TomSender-fs7kf]

Is the freewing f16 as Good as this one

[@TwoBrosRC]

The 70mm is probably similar.

[@TomSender-fs7kf]

@@TwoBrosRCthank you for answering👌

[@FalconWing1813]

Did you every get the new adhesive decals for this jet? Would be great to do a follow up video on it ,also do you have the link to them? Thanks !

[@TwoBrosRC]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/roPdc4aHbq-Ch6M We went with custom Ace Combat 7 graphics!

[@looneytunes47]

Im really surprised that they classify this as a beginner jet cause every F-16 ive flown gets pretty wing rocky when in a alpha configuration or in slow flight mode

[@TwoBrosRC]

This one doesn't wing rock at all in high alpha. It's absolutely a beginner's jet for that reason and due to its easy flying characteristics until you get the CG balanced rearward, then it becomes a jet that you can really toss around.

[@looneytunes47]

@@TwoBrosRC Good to know then John i love the over all look of the F-16s just wanna get one that is more relaxing to fly.....Thanks for all your Reviews you do John keep up the good work buddy....

[@businessraptor134]

Already sold out on the link provided........ man.. I'd like seeing some planes I could _actually buy_ rather than just getting teased again.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Likewise. We must have gotten sent the last one. Fortunately, Horizon has them in stock and you can pick one up via bit.ly/3XB4zS2

[@olatunjilawrence2806]

Can I get a link to purchase this amazing Jet please.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Check the description!

[@todtalk3912]

Its cool to like 1 brand over another. To like the paint scheme on a plane that the stickers dont stick to and you have to do yourself???? Come on. You can give Horizon Hobby some props for always doing that better

[@TwoBrosRC]

Not sure what you're referring to here. We enjoyed both versions of this jet.

[@todtalk3912]

@Two Brothers Radio Control the paint scheme. You claim to like the laint scheme on this model more than the eflight model, which looks amazing. This thing, you couldn't even get the stickers to adhere to it? That's all I was saying. Not exactly being serious, but it's hard to be sarcastic through text. Anyway, I'm only kidding. Please do not take offense. We're all entitled to out opinions for sure.

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@todtalk3912 We tend to prefer decal-less models so it becomes possible to apply our own.