Relationship Advice: Musician Edition | TwoSet Talks | EP. 3

[@simplytwosetter]

Twoset talking/gossiping about musicians dating and carefully not spilling a thing about their personal life lol

[@evaa.3814]

😂

[@simplytwosetter]

@e2pii213 sorry I should make this half joke clear, I mean their personal relationships, love life if you will. And I'm not saying that I'm interested in their love life, I'm just half joking that they did a good job talking about dating without touching upon their own dating experience (which again, I'm not interested in).

[@GamerVinsmoke]

🗿

[@xandraxandra1437]

They are very good at not talking about their personal lives, have always been. I like the boundaries they have, not all famous people can keep it that way, and still be able to express personal thoughts.

[@Chihuahuauno1]

You mean those two draining each others sack on the daily…???…

[@LingLingwannabes_]

1st advice “ you shouldn’t be dating you should be practicing “

[@Sonny_McMacsson]

Yes, trick question.

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

best pfp ever :)

[@Randomstuffcore]

Wise words

[@LingLingwannabes_]

@@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch Ty lol ur pfp is epic too

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

@@LingLingwannabes_ thanks :) i actually have no idea where it came from i have so many of these lol

[@impassionategods_]

next episode: please talk about how you two can stay friends while also being business partners! how do you divide the work, how do you start to expand your team and hire other people you’re not close with, how do you divide the time between twoset and your own personal life, etc cuz u know starting a business with friends can very easily break your friendship apart

[@chia_s_ee_d]

I AGREE!!!!!!

[@chia_s_ee_d]

Cuz they said they don’t fight and just try to work things out!!! At this point, it’s life advice 😂❤❤

[@juliajihae]

Bumping this, I would love to know!

[@xandraxandra1437]

That would be so interesting and useful! I second this

[@stellaluna92]

I agree. Especially diving into what a day in the life may look like, how much is spent on practice, YT channel related work, TSA, touring and overseeing other aspects of the brand without burning out and keeping the passion for music alive. Also how this has evolved as the channel has grown.

[@cr.quette]

the way they made this video but didn't go into any personal details is kinda impressive 😭

[@Sonny_McMacsson]

There are no personal details, just practice!

[@sabrinai]

Brett immediately pointing out that the question of the young guy wasn't about Eddy and him but about the couple just shows how well he can read people.

[@antine1279]

He definitely has a knack for understanding emotions and people

[@procrastipractice]

"Don't give people practicing unsolicited advice" So true for relationships, Tonic and everywhere else

[@antine1279]

There's actually a sketch by my favourite comedy group (Foil, Arms and Hog) called unsolicited advice. It popped into my head while they were talking about it, I recommend it for a good laugh

[@procrastipractice]

@@antine1279Thank you for the tip!

[@chia_s_ee_d]

as a musician, I can confirm no matter how much we hide it, we still have a little bit of competitiveness inside us

[@ilikeakeyboard]

Yuppp.

[@elissahunt]

Um. Not everyone. I'm very non-competitive. I just focus on doing my best.

[@chia_s_ee_d]

@@elissahunt well maybe once you get to a higher level, plus I’m in school so ur always competing for spots and opportunities

[@elissahunt]

@@chia_s_ee_d It's a mindset thing. Think of it this way. You're NOT competing against the other musicians. You're competing against yourself to be the musician you want to be. It doesn't matter if you're the best in your section if you're not the best you can be. When you focus on your own progress instead of on being "better" than someone else, you improve at a far faster rate. And when you meet other musicians whose skills are more advanced than yours, use that as inspiration. Don't think, "They're better than me. I suck." Think instead, "Wow. If they can do that, I can do it, too!" Then practice so you CAN do it.

[@chia_s_ee_d]

@@elissahunt you’re right, thanks for the advice :)

[@aquamarine9568]

“Comparison is the thief of joy”, wise wise words to live by.

[@reigencansitonme]

something asian parents barely understand lol

[@hopegold883]

Everyone in any field needs to listen to this ep

[@makemoneywithadah]

17:28 “If you need another pair of ears, I’m here and I’m all yours.” - I loved how inviting that sounded 😊 Thanks Brett!

[@antine1279]

He's very supportive, it's lovely to see

[@elissahunt]

I am a musician married to a musician (for 25 years and counting). I 100% agree that the relationship has to be about supporting each other. But this goes for everyone, not just musicians.

[@lizsettestriaume2012]

I strongly agree on this

[@selgeaus]

My wife thought I was gay and safe to hang out because I was studying music composition when we first met. That was 25 years ago.

[@tasmonic]

On competitiveness and teamwork: "Us against the problem, not us against each other"

[@baldwinangel1218]

What's attractive is someone who is engaged with their craft/ profession. Like their soul is not dead yet. 😂

[@mime514]

I agree with this 100%, there are few things hotter than a person being really passionate about their interests! Not just in romantic relationships, but I adore listening to people talk about what interests them, even if I wouldn’t give a shit otherwise about that subject. It’s a joy learning from passionate people and conversations that are an outlet for that passion have such a strong grip on me :0

[@sabrinai]

17:20 "not even that! Tips is too much!"😂😂😂😂 Brett's so wise!

[@antine1279]

Yeah he is very good at finding that fine line

[@ViolinWithKids]

“Practice celebrating others” literally so good and so important to practice using our thoughts rather than our thoughts using us. Thanks for a great chat!

[@Kerry-i4s]

*Tonic has joined the chat*

[@Irishlassmm2]

Brett hit it on the head with "emotional maturity"

[@naomitiefenbrunn2857]

My dad told me once that all his past girlfriends did not manage to understand his dedication to practicing for hours each day and they all got super jealous. And then my mom came long (she's a pianist), and she was the only one who understood :)

[@whatever2045]

Your dad sounds like a luthier

[@lianaprokopchuk8313]

Twoset Therapy

[@Koffeefr]

“being good at your instrument makes you attractive” 100% YES i was at all state and was practically drooling over the concertmaster because he was so good

[@sabrinai]

Brett having practiced to be happy for others is soooo epic in my eyes! Personal growth is so difficult and requires time and practice as well and also requires you to acknowledge your flaw in the first place, which can hurt and can be very difficult. Brett facing that is proof of his mature personality and character.

[@MayFongJosephineLoh]

Not just Brett, It's Brett and Eddy. They are the best role model. They have been practicing having genuine joy for success for each other.

[@muistijaljet]

This podcast is filling my void of listening you two nerd out on classical music on the main channel. It's just really enjoyable to listen to you two talking to each other.

[@josephineraeburn5809]

100% agree with you.

[@tea_and_music]

I‘m not a musician but I found myself constantly nodding because everything you said just applies to other professions as well that require some sort of constant learning.

[@kristintripp967]

Been married almost 25 years. This is actually all really solid advice for any relationship!

[@JeremiahGoodwin-sc8li]

In the end, it's important why you're playing. If you are playing to be better than everyone, you will never be happy because there will always be someone better than you. You'll be happiest if you learn to play to make music. You're literally making an inanimate object sing. Be proud.

[@desirieroselopena6748]

EDIT: We broke up. Listen to TwoSet guys. Focus on PRACTICE. LOVE ISN'T REAL. As a pianist who has been in a relationship with someone for 6 years, I can see that you guys are really making valid points with this one. To date a non-musician means them not understanding how much your instrument and musical time means to you. While dating someone who plays the same instrument as you can come off as competitive. I think it's safer if you date someone who is a musician but they play a different instrument than you. In that way they'd have a high level of understanding as to why music is so important to you, at the same time they don't view you as a competition because the two of you have different expertise in terms of musical instruments. I could actually relate to this in some way because I'm a pianist and I'm dating someone who doesn't play the piano but has knowledge about music theory and musical compositions (he composes hymns). So he doesn't view me as a competition. In fact, he encourages me whenever I practice and he'd give me constructive criticisms along the way. When dating musicians, it really takes two to tango. The two of you have to understand each other without treating each other as competition.

[@steffilomi9328]

I don't think it's necessarily the way that non musicians can't understand can't understand the importance and dedication of practice. They just need to understand it's a hard job which requires a hard work day as any other interesting job. And sometimes some extra hours to give it the last touch. Same as in any other job where you have projects/product /patients etc. To understand that means you respect your partner and his/her work. Many others, with different professions have the same problems (partners don't understand shifts/weekend work etc.)

[@antine1279]

I agree with the above comment. There are other "untypical", not 9-5 professions. What matters is that you are able to express clearly and the other person is willing to listen and understand. If it works for both sides, I don't see a problem

[@winter-wb7cf]

I personally agree as a musician dating another musician. We both play the same instrument though! I’m a teacher over a performer, while he is the opposite. That allows us to not have that competition. Luckily for me because he is wayyyyy better than me. We have both experienced dating people who don’t understand our need for practice to succeed (my ex even was a non-professional musician and didn’t get it). I’m the first musician he has dated, and he expressed how relieved he was that I understand him. We do just make sense together though, so I probably would understand him without being a musician. I don’t think I know a married musician (including ALL of my professors at uni) who isn’t married to another musician though now that I think about it

[@shevontea]

i honestly could never date a non-musician, like my instrument means so much to me and it feels like if someone wasn’t a musician they wouldn’t understand why i need to practice a lot. plus i need someone to do duets with lol!

[@extropiantranshuman]

how come you say love isn't real and then proceed to date someone anyway? It's confusing

[@KitagumaIgen]

Envy - In my early 20s I got injured as a runner while one of my mates really took off, and I was so envious of him competing so great - but only in the sense that "I wish I could run like that", and never in the sense "he shouldn't run that well when I cannot", I was properly happy and proud of his success. That, I think, is an important distinction to learn, "envy" in the sense "I want too..." is OK (maybe even good), but "envy" meaning "he shouldn't either..." is very very bad.

[@jow3439]

My favourite content so far. Unintentional flexing of wisdom 🤭. But that advice of "Practice being happy for others" is 100% accurate. You never know how hard that practice is until you do it.

[@sabrinai]

18:06 there's the message and the messanger! Eddy's wisdom just keeps to amaze me!

[@gimletrose1985]

I know!!! He's so wise

[@brothercuber3288]

Babe wake up, new twoset talks episode dropped

[@jodietypn]

As you said in your 1st podcast, Brett is in charge of the logistics stuff while Eddy is in charge of the creative stuff. Can you make an episode and talk more about the creativity preparation for tours/content, where to find the resources/inspiration, whether Eddy has to persuade Brett to follow his ideas etc.?

[@kaylanoel2011]

If you can advice slowly you can advice quickly

[@chia_s_ee_d]

PLEASE BRING HILARY AND JANINE ONTO THE PODCAST!!! I know it would be very very hard tho ❤

[@eiralinnea]

This episode hits on TRUTH. Being happy for someone can only either be neutral or make a positive impact in the friendship/relationship, but being a dick about someone else's success ruins their vibe and eventually, your own as well. Letting envy consume you and letting it dictate your actions is destructive to also your own well-being, you're not being the best version of yourself. Also, I think it's important to at least sometimes go see the other perform. It means *so much* to me when any of my friends come and see my choir! I also try to go see my friends perform when I can. And I'd imagine it would become a bit of an issue if your partner never ever comes to see you in anything you do, even if they had time. You start wondering if they're truly that busy, or if they think your music sucks, or if they're just envious you are performing and not them. :/

[@SunChan29]

Musician or Non Musician... Ultimately it boils down to the individuals. I have seen people from the same field grow together. And also I have seen siblings pulling each other down. So I agree hard with the emotional maturity part.

[@christianlesniak]

There's a Buddhist practice called "Mudita", of wishing sympathetic joy to others, and it's practiced as an antidote to envy. It can be very useful to consciously cultivate an attitude of wishing others success (even wishing it for oneself), similarly to having a Metta practice.

[@maurmi]

Great advice, Twoset! Your maturity is impressive - from a fan almost twice your age

[@chia_s_ee_d]

So the solution is ………. JUST GO PRACTICE!!!!!!!

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

hey chia seed i need help should i play viola or violin :)

[@chia_s_ee_d]

@@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch do u want a job in orchestra and be made fun of? If not play violin if so play viola :)

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

@@chia_s_ee_d idk what to do because i can either audition for my first orchestra as a violist or a violinist but everyone wants me to be a violist because there are prodigies lol thanks :)

[@igrutinovicana]

​@@IluvtwosetandwatchtoomuchChoose what you truly want! Listen to some pieces of both, the viola can be a beautiful instrument with a rich sound, it's definitely not all bad.. also, less competition lol

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

@@igrutinovicana thanks :) yeah definitely less competition where I am lol I will now listen to the best viola concertos and we'll see what I decide lol Thank you!!! 💕💕

[@antine1279]

Fantastic advice. As someone your age who is not a musician, I've experienced so much of what you're talking about in past relationships. It's not music-specific, it's human and people's stuff comes up in relationships A LOT. It's definitely a tricky area to navigate and requires a lot of self-honesty and introspection. The women you end up with will be very lucky!

[@anniebananie3421]

The best point made in this video is that practice is not just for musical skills. I'm glad they pointed out that feelings like jealousy can hit anybody, but the difference between somebody who chooses to behave jealously and somebody who chooses to be gracious is often practice. I tell the people I work and live with that a close knit community doesn't just happen by default. It takes sincere effort and hard work by each person in the community to make it work. Being good and kind is not easy, and doesn't always feel natural. But working at it consciously will have results. And like with music, the harder the work that was put in, the more effortless and beautiful the final gift will be.

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

Should I be concerned I actually clicked on this because I trust these two for dating advice??

[@cecilia7259]

No, don't be concerned. I was the same, thinking, you guys sure you have expertise in this area? Then clicked on it right away anyway 😅

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

@@cecilia7259 we can be worried together :)

[@josephineraeburn5809]

These boys Brett and Eddy speak words of wisdom. In some of their videos, they may joke and act crazy but in serious videos like this, you will find precious gems in their nerding, feels like being enlightened. Twoset brett and eddy are wiser beyond their years. Really.

[@sisidiam1096]

On the talk of envy: Sometimes when you re jealous for a person's situation they might be jealous of you for your situtation, because humans tend to want what they dont have. Example: i had a friend (around middle school) and I once told them that I was super jealous of them because they had their own room and didn't have to share, and they replied that they were jealous of me because i had to share with my siblings while theirs had moved out. A more recent example: I whine to my friend from music school that their university offers a lot more opportunities for extra credits than mine, and they whine to me that they dont have time to practice their instument like I do (how we met) because of that. I guess the take away here is be grateful for what you have while using others people achievements to motivate your own :)

[@peggysmith-p5u]

@22 min. They really describe their own friendship to a tee!! Eddy says that if both persons in a relationship are musicians you can help each other reach your goals...you have to be a team, the moment you are competing it's "Game Over". Brett then said if you are helping each other, your improvements will be exponential. You have a constant pair of ears, to listen out for you. Just imagine the amount of feedback you can get at a rapid rate. There's someone there for you 24/7. It's a huge advantage!

[@rae_halvi6392]

they really shared useful stuff here. not just for romantic relationship. this can be applied in a family, friends, or even in workplace. so nice. ❤️

[@DavidPerez-pi1iy]

Just my own perspective. I started dating a girl in my studio during my first year. She was in her third year, and is a lot more musically advanced than I am. I never though, “ Oh I wish I was better than her. Ah! I’m so intimidated!” I’m just glad that I can hear her play. It’s so inspiring! We both have our own unique musical instincts. There’s nothing quite like the feeling of standing behind her in the organ loft, turning her pages ;)

[@zarakoda]

Really appreciated the discussion on knee-jerk envy reactions and countering it with practicing joy for someone else / staying within your role. It hit the nail on things I need to work on, and provided a new angle by which I can grow myself and get better. Thanks for these podcasts. The serious, long-form talks are a great addition to your content.

[@ieeerr.]

I would love to see an episode about everything tour related, the planning, logistics, but also the script writing, script learning, music related decisions, practice, stage design, outfit choices. All that good stuff. 😍

[@chia_s_ee_d]

The planning and logistics are kinda in the first episode!!😊

[@ieeerr.]

@@chia_s_ee_d True! I guess I mostly meant stuff like deciding on where to go and when, and that puzzle of how to make it fit with enough rest days in between, if that makes sense. 🙈

[@chia_s_ee_d]

@@ieeerr. ahhh yes, I agree!!!

[@alicja.kinga91]

Why are their voices so comforting 😌 I’m just sitting here on a cold rainy day watching this and feeling so relaxed 🙈 thank you for a great conversation!

[@ofkgjsl]

I didnt know this channel existed! Love the calm vibe and more serious podcast format. I‘d love to know what their opinion is on all things mundane, because those guys are super wise, sophisticated souls, yet so relatable and human with all their emotions and struggles in life as all of us millenials kinda are. Would also love to hear more on mental health, relationships, dating, performance pressure, Asian pressure of society, western culture and mentality through classical music etc, so many topics.

[@e2pii213]

While waiting for more new episodes, may I recommend one from Brett's old podcast channel? 'Music- Bretty Bang Show-Episode 6 - How to Stay Motivated and Overcome the Fear of Judgement.' Another gold: 'Inside the Mind of Hilary Hahn' - a 90 min(!!!) talk with Hillary.

[@fatimaestinzo6139]

damn, reminds me of pianist Yuja Wang and Klaus Makela's recent breakup and cancelling concerts here and there. 😬

[@ducks5377]

ik i was about to comment this! i was abt to go to their concert in chicago! its a bit of a shame

[@fatimaestinzo6139]

​@@ducks5377 yea, like damn. how can they be that bitter against each other. :( sad for them though. also sad for the orchestra/audience who expected for them to come over.

[@ducks5377]

@@fatimaestinzo6139 i mean it's sad for them but at the same time a lot of ppl we waiting for them- i had a friend who booked a flight and was already in the hotel when the cancellation was announced i get break ups are hard but it's also their jobs 😬

[@fatimaestinzo6139]

​​@@ducks5377 true. i've heard stories like that. could've been better if they [Yuja and Makela] just act civil/professional towards it.

[@ducks5377]

@@fatimaestinzo6139 i agree! the whole situation is just kind of strange 🫤

[@TheMissKittey]

Fun fact: My parents basically started dating because my dad is a musician 🎶💘🎶 They grew up in the same small town, so they kinda knew each other, but not very closely. My dad already had his eye on my mom for a while, but she wasn’t interested in him like that (yet). Well, all of that changed when they both joined the local church choir. At first, my dad was just one of the singers, but because he was able to play organ he eventually became the choir's accompanist. Seeing him play the organ completely shifted my mom's perspective on him. She was mesmerized by his playing; fascinated by his abilities on such a complex instrument. My mom said she "started to see him in a different light.“✨ Eventually they started going out, and the rest history. 🥰 Growing up my mum often told me she "fell in love with his way of making music“ 😍🎶which I think is just beautiful. They have been together for over 40 years and counting.❤ If this is not the ultimate motivation to "GO PRACTICE!" I don’t know what is! 😉

[@chia_s_ee_d]

I think it’s good to have friends in and out of music so you get the best of both worlds!!!

[@antine1279]

When Eddy said "if you're not the teacher, maybe you should just shut up", it reminded me of several of my ex partners who have told me they've learned that, when a woman complains, you should just shut up and listen because they don't want you to give them a solution, they want to feel like they can vent and have someone just listen. (As a woman, yes, that's what we need, and I always thought that was obvious.) They've all also said they learned that lesson the hard way. I can see Eddy had some similar experiences xD I think a smart man learns this by their mid-late twenties

[@extropiantranshuman]

not sure what you're talking about - I am a woman - and I don't like venting but solutions. I don't want a listening ear unless people will use it for better. I want to see men of action, not men of sitting around listening (unless it's for enough time to figure out how to do better).

[@keyyotcake]

It actually sounds so general it can be took on any major in uni haha thanks a lot for your advice, it actually made lot sense 💛💛

[@gracelaw6929]

Feels like this is not only a phenomenon within the music circle, but also maybe some other industries like finance or legal etc. where status and performance matters and competition is vast with limited positions and spots available. But in reality, it is difficult to find a person who genuinely feels happy to your success when by nature they are competitors in the same field. I can't imagine how bad it feels if your partner becomes a world class musician meanwhile you can't even get into an orchestra (maybe exaggerating but yea)

[@chia_s_ee_d]

Brett and Eddy lookin real good today!!!!

[@peterhickey876]

Very heartwarming and sincere. I have tremendous respect for you both.

[@paulacoyle5685]

18:39 the thing about the mother who is the pianist, yes, my dad and all of the other pianists in the area taught each other’s kids because they had a rule that you just don’t teach your own kids, it’s very difficult. Although he did teach me.

[@antine1279]

It makes sense though, you're stepping into a different role, from parent to teacher and the dynamics is different. I remember when my mum tried to tutor me in math - it was a disaster. I didn't "respect" her as a teacher. Yet it was easy when someone else was explaining it to me

[@mariavidineeva2524]

Even though I'm not a musician this was realy helpful and insightful! I do struggle with envy sometimes and it's great how you give advice for this situation while highlighting that you shouldn't blame yourself for feeling it. Thank you guys your podcast it always makes me so happy

[@madmaddie4956]

You TWO are amazing. Always so funny, and approachable/earthy, and today I saw another side of you which I didn’t expect. True genuine and sound advice, not only for musicians, but for all people of everyday of our lives. You both showed your wisdom (well, don’t let this get to your heads!) and thoughtfulness that we should all have or strive to have ie knowing ourselves and feeling good enough so that we can truly be supportive and happy for the successes of all our friends and family. Kudos to you.

[@justaname___]

This is my favourite episode so far!!! Especially the friendship advice and navigating natural envy and competitiveness. I’m in academia which has the exact same issues but I’ve never really heard these issues be discussed so safely and openly like this. Looking forward to more content!

[@e2pii213]

Oh yes. My experience from academia too. (Research univeristy science dept.) Couples, friends, former class mates competing for positions, NSF grants, publications, grad students - few survive. Adding the sexism, that less prevalent in today's musical world. Not disturbing your muscian partner's practice? If your life is dear for you, never ever open the door to your working scientist partner's room, definitely not at 3 AM with a "when are you coming to bed???" You are right, these issues are hardly ever discussed safely. Often the competitivness is even encouraged by the institute/uni.

[@justaname___]

Its so sad. I've almost decided to keep my interactions with other grad students to a minimum, only professional conversations. I also find myself sometimes acting in ways I don't like (giving out unsolicited advice etc) - its definitely an echo chamber due to fragile egos.

[@baseballbatbadass321]

Somewhere down the line, they are talking about themselves. Anyway i totally agree. In a relationship - any relationship, you and ur partner should see urself as a unit, rather than a separate entity. It won't work otherwise - if it happens, just move on.

[@e2pii213]

Definitely they were sharing their own experiences. They were asked so many times in interviews, Q&E sessions about how they solve problems, avoid competitiveness etc. - they always gave similar/identical advices they gave here.

[@ilikeakeyboard]

"We made all the mistakes so you dont have to!" But I'll still manage to make all mistakes possible!! :)

[@claudiabarajas2106]

This episode was amazingly insightful not only to dating just in managing all kinds of relationships. I love how intune both Eddy and Brett about their self and emotional awareness. This was such a great episode. ❤❤❤

[@maygel]

twosetdads our tiktok attention span can't handle this 20 something minute podcast episode i think we need t go back to the longer 50 minute podcast eps pleasepleaseplease!

[@agatafurczyk9149]

"One of the chosen few" who made it to the end, here 👋 but I'm older than you, so I guess I wouldn't have an excuse for a too short attention span 😆 I agree with what you said. And, like everything else, relationships of all kinds - to be good - require practice! 😊 I think that people sometimes break ties with someone more succesfull, not because of envy, but because they begin to think: 'What can I possibly do for them? They don't need me anymore. They must think I'm a looser...' Overcoming such an obstacle is possible only if both sides want it and communicate it. Otherwise, everyone just ends up acting based on their - possibly wrong - assumptions.

[@TheClorifolio]

I came here to gossip and left with a life-lasting lesson...thanks so much Brett and Eddy 💕💕

[@chia_s_ee_d]

This channel deserves way more recognition!!!!!❤

[@chia_s_ee_d]

Thank u Brett and Eddy for sharing your wisdom!!!!😊

[@elaine378]

Brett knowing that the correct term is “unconsciously” not “subconsciously” makes me so happy lol

[@oongaboongagang]

How Eddy said "Love" made me slightly smile~~~ 😍😍😍😌

[@km2549]

I think that this is my favorite podcast so far! I loved all the points that you guys made here. Envy can be so ugly and drive people away, but I like how you guys put it to where you are not making people feel guilty for feeling it and giving tips for how to overcome it! This was a very informative and fun episode and I can't wait for the next one! 😁 P.S The comment about how being good at your instrument makes you more attractive is so true. I have seen this, especially being someone who plays an instrument myself.

[@lozzawazhere]

Please actually upload these eps to Spotify and Apple Podcasts!!!! Need your dulcet tones for audio only listening in the car 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@croissant1949]

Really loving these videos where we’re getting more long-form content and Brett and Eddy are able to share more about their insight as a musician beyond the normal content videos!! 💖💖 Really enjoying the conversation being created, since some topics raised in normal videos can’t really be discussed thoroughly, and I’m so happy to have a window to their thoughts

[@kokod2736]

I recall an OLD TSV episode (at least 6 years ago) where they said they don't fight when they have different opinions, that they talk things out. Looks like they are still practicing doing it.

[@BarristerCat]

Wise advice for relationships in other competitive fields as well.

[@jherlenecargill4081]

This is such a great episode. A lot to reflect upon. ❤

[@rebeccang4331]

my mother finally won a grammy award .screw her. i cant 🤣😂🤣😂

[@JacquiCuff]

Y not on Spotify 😢 ono one episode!!! But also, I love hearing your guys banter so this is a welcome podcast to add to my list! Thank you!

[@heymambo]

There is a lot of jealousy going on among musicians. It's hard not to envy others when they succeed and you don't. But on the other side, it's such a joy to play with someone who is REALLY good, even if you are not. It's pure pleasure and joy.

[@ElizaSocha]

Thank you so much for another great episode, actually the best one so far for me. Your thoughts and advice are very wise and universal for any relationship, not only for musicians. I love listening to you, I hope next episodes will be soon❤

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

another twoset talks episode! thanks twoset talks!

[@angelabell7254]

You Men are absolutely right. I'm not a musician. But what you're both saying is wise and extremely professional. I truly appreciate both of your wisdom and advice. Soo much love for you both 💖

[@clara_c930]

thank you for mentioning that envy like you said applies in romantic as well as other relationships, can become so toxic that not only it ruins the relationship, but also brings both people down. It is so important to keep an eye out for this, to be able to recognise when it pops up, not act on it, and think and act with a cool head that benefits everyone. edit: can we have twosettalks on apple podcasts please? 🙏

[@denisecheng2962]

Wonderful advice!🤗

[@knettle6743]

I wish these talks had subtitles 🥺😅 A very interesting topic, you can think about it and apply it in your private life having nothing to do with music, just for the growth of any common healthy relationship or friendship. Their emotional maturity and level of culture are just impressive 👏🏼

[@maricello_m442]

I can tell: yes, as musician marring another musician could be an enrichment to each other. Sadly we had all the problems the twoset said: I felt oppressed, cause my husband always wanted to give me advices, even after i said, I would like to hear that from my teacher and when I became successful (and more successful as he) he began to hurt me much more and finally he left me... I think this is only one part. I wish, to know this advices 10 years ago!

[@polarberri]

Super interesting to hear the specifics about musicians, but I think the lessons apply to anyone in any field. Being brilliant at what you do, and passionate, makes you very attractive. And being happy for others' success is the key to happiness and supportive friendships/relationships!

[@gimletrose1985]

I always get impressed by your maturity. Biggest reason why I love you two! ❤️❤️❤️

[@SoundEngraver]

I'm in music, and I'm glad I didn't marry a musician. I'm happy to be in a separate profession from my husband. Great video, Twoset. Your advice from professional experience is invaluable.

[@ZiaElohka]

So the secret of your succes is, besides being multitalented, your friendship.

[@RiceLilyMeadows]

Same could be said about other art fields. The competitiveness, the jealousy, etc. I’ve dated both a musician and an artist. The musician dumped me because his ambitions outgrew our relationship. He was a really strong flautist and I admired him for it; even asked for his help a few times but there were other things that were my realm like drawing ✍️

[@deadfrogsong1723]

Wow, this really spoke to me. Thanks so much for making this! I've made this mistake of envy so much.

[@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch]

9:59 as a perfect pitcher, the f# being sharp is so relatable lol

[@asterrmb]

Love it! These twoset talks are fantastic!

[@e2pii213]

While waiting for more new episodes, may I recommend one from Brett's old podcast channel? 'Music- Bretty Bang Show-Episode 6 - How to Stay Motivated and Overcome the Fear of Judgement.' Another gold: 'Inside the Mind of Hilary Hahn' - a 90 min(!!!) talk with Hillary.

[@user-Lauriionss]

At the end of the day, it all just comes down to practice!! I agree with whatever they said bc at the end of the day a healthy relationship/friendship is just being each other's rock, a stepping stone, or a steady support you can lean on when things get tiring. It's all a learning process, and it's totally normal and okay to feel envy towards your friend, but how you respond to the emotion is the most important. Do you push it down and share the joy, or do you bring the other party down instead? The best part of being in a relationship/friendship is to share the happiness, excitement, sadness, frustration and pain. It all just comes down to seeking to understand the other party and working well together 💗💗 (e.g. our favourite violin duo)

[@carolinesaintdenis]

"a lot of ego involved" - understatement of the century ! 😅

[@lapukaslapis]

sooo true🤗🤗🤗 thank you sharing that.. you make me remember last my relationship with one musician, so true what you guys saying.. ❤❤❤

[@cookingmusician]

Yep, it’s a challenge…! I met my now husband the first day of music college and we’ve been married 27 years now. Most of the time we are filled with joy at each others success, but when you’re having a dip in your own playing or your own achievements, it’s something that is harder to feel… and it’s also important to keep communicating with each other about your own self-doubt, etc, so you can be a support to each other. One persons success doesn’t mean the other persons failure, but it feels like it sometimes with that comparison and envy going on in our mind, often subconsciously!

[@mlilac]

I'm just blown away by how mature and wise those two are at such a young age

[@yamei5839]

wow theyre thoughtful and wise. they seem like good people