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[@kj62431]

If you didn't like learning them in school, just imagine being the teacher of a room full of recorders all playing at the same time. She is not only a fabulous player but she is patient.

[@elainespianofantasy]

ik, I wish she was my teacher 😢

[@electric7487]

And the cheap plastic POSs the students are playing on. I've always thought that if you're gonna learn the recorder, then you should learn on a _proper_ recorder.

[@dancoroian1]

A room full of *cheap* recorders all playing *badly* at the same time, I think you meant to say...

[@joshuapettus6973]

@@dancoroian1 Could be worse, could be a room full of cheap violins, all playing badly at the same time. :)

[@sundaetheguitar]

Yes

[@THEsnapcrakklepop]

Lucie sounds like a graceful bird. Brett & Eddy sound like teakettles with anxiety! 😂

[@andrewcordle2424]

No, they’re just clowns 🤡

[@andrewzhang8512]

@@andrewcordle2424 lmao what

[@andrewcordle2424]

@@andrewzhang8512 My comment is clear… If you have seen any of their other videos you would know exactly what I’m saying 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@UnshavenStatue]

"teakettles with anxiety" is a wonderful turn of phrase

[@mukilnarayanan]

Exactly! What a beautiful way to put it!

[@skateata1]

From roasting you to teaching you. I love how there is no beef between them. It's all for fun.

[@march.7561]

Well, Phoebe roasted them, but it was all in good fun still. Besides, they're already string players so Phoebe didn't have to teach as much.

[@DarthSivius]

@@march.7561 Phoebe? or Lucie?

[@TheRealestIdealist]

Lol, I get what you mean but c'mon...classical musicians know nothing about BEEF!!! Hahahaha😂

[@kishascape]

@@TheRealestIdealist I was there for the east vs west coast Recorder player turf wars. I walked down south central one night when a gang of 6 all beat me senseless with plastic yamaha tenors. Another night a guy jumped me and smacked me in the face with a pillowcase full of headjoints.

[@TheRealestIdealist]

@@kishascape LMAOOOO!!! 😂

[@firelunamoon]

Now I see what was missing from all those painful recorder playing sessions we had in school. They basically just stuck a toy in our hands and we blew as hard as we could. All the nuances of technique Lucie explains here completely ignored in the chase to play loudest, most off-pitch note possible 😂

[@dancarter3518]

Bro it would be just an hour of squeaky cries from the recorder

[@malahamavet]

Also the recorders we had at school were cheap and sounded cheap, especially the honner ones, those are terrible, and also any colorfull, transparent or filled whith patterns. But also not even teachers really knew technique, and another problem. Ironically, recorders are not good for kids, because they require patience and precision, things kids suck at, same happens whith watercolours, most kids had the cheapest ones, and weren't given much advice, just, "paint whatever" and many times using print paper, so most paintings looked dirty, you count draw whith the cheap brush cause it didn't have a tip and the paper got all wrinkly or whith holes on them. Same thing, watercolour looks beautiful when done whith decent materials on a paper that can hold it, just because our watercolours sucked doesn't mean the medium is bad, we were were just set up for frustration from the beginning because most teachers don't really care. Patience and precision, those are adult skills

[@onemanfran]

We had recorder lessons at school and we didn't just blow as hard as we could. Maybe that's because we listened to our teacher and cared about doing well.

[@salamonthegreat]

@@malahamavet very much so

[@M_SC]

@@onemanfranyeah these other people’s school culture sounds bad. Teachers who didn’t care, kids who just grabbed and did the most violent thing possible to the instrument. My school wasn’t like that either

[@SO-ym3zs]

What a gift for understatement: She's "a professional recorder player." One of the best in the world, actually. She's a gifted player. It's a shame recorders have developed their reputation as annoying kid's instruments. They are serious classical instruments, like all the other woodwinds. Playing their Renaissance and Baroque repertoire is a lot of fun. Good for lots of European folk music, too. Easy to start on, as well, since you can buy a quality instrument fairly cheap. Even the plastic Yamaha and Aulos models are good.

[@0biwan7]

sometimes i think recorders get a bad rap because the musical technique required to play them in tune and with consistent tone is out of reach of so many people.

[@ganqqwerty]

yeah, the fact that you can start playing decent pieces after a couple of hours of training just means that the instrument is meant to be actually used by humans, unlike khmmm... some other instruments :D

[@SO-ym3zs]

@@0biwan7 It's true, you do need a good ear for pitch, so you're not always blowing sharp or flat, but if you're a budding musician, that's a skill you should already have or will need to develop anyway. I play tin/penny whistles, too, and you encounter the same challenge. But all told, they're much easier than starting on guitar or keys or fretless instruments.

[@milkteamachine]

My favourite thing about the recorder is how accessible it is. It’s extremely cheap to start compared to other woodwinds and a plastic Yamaha can take you pretty far.

[@SO-ym3zs]

@@milkteamachine Definitely! They sound amazing for such cheap instruments. No way you'd get started with a guitar or keyboard or violin anywhere near that cheaply.

[@elainespianofantasy]

still sounds better than the school music class we all had to painfully go through 🤷‍♀️

[@bertramwinkleofficial]

my class had gotten our recorder privileges taken away so I never got to experience it lmao

[@elainespianofantasy]

@@bertramwinkleofficialprivileges✨

[@eddiehochobeb4305]

Not a flex but never had to experience that 😎

[@zaniyahmuhammad1520]

My school didn’t even have a music class 😭

[@elainespianofantasy]

@@zaniyahmuhammad1520you should be happy about that lol

[@simplytwosetter]

Brett and Eddy learned to play the recorder in one hour❌️ Brett and Eddy impressed by Professor Lucie's extraordinary recorder playing/flexing for a whole hour✅️

[@howardstark]

Professor Lucie has such an amazing sense of humor, aside from being so wickedly talented. 😎👍🏼

[@margothutton]

wickedly *skilled!* 🤯

[@sethneumeyer1167]

The Dutch Wit

[@sord.fightmusic7066]

Lucie sounds like a songbird fluttering in the warm summer breeze. Brett and Eddy sound like songbirds caught in a tornado.

[@davefigthe3rd]

Lucy actually took this challenge seriously. Respect. She is a true teacher.

[@AudieHolland]

They wouldn't have made the video if she wasn't teaching them seriously.

[@nathal3410]

Editor-san, you have once again outdone yourself👏🏻👏🏻 bravo😂 can’t stop laughing with those two sad tea kettles😂

[@litybae]

Recorder is one of the top tier instrument and not many people are ready for this conversation ✨

[@evanmisejka4062]

I've played recorder for a good amount of time and it absolutely is a serious instrument.

[@120rikeshlawoju2]

Isn't flute a better recorder?

[@joshina4497]

@@120rikeshlawoju2 hell nah

[@salamonthegreat]

​@@120rikeshlawoju2recorders and transverse flutes do not produce sound in the same way.

[@wolftagproductions6856]

I agree. Recorder is very difficult and sounds amazing! Ever heard the Telemann recorder concertos, so good!

[@facedepet8363]

Just a small note from 2:46, the recorder is not the only wind instrument you can play and sing at the same time, you can also do that with the flute ^^

[@TheRealestIdealist]

Yes, true! I don't know why people separate the recorder from the flute. The recorder is a type of flute. I like to refer to my recorder as a blockflute....only cause "recorder" became a bad word lol

[@jonaslenz1997]

And the Saxophone and the clarinet,…

[@TheRealestIdealist]

@@jonaslenz1997 Oh wow, that’s good to know! I would also assume the harmonica, the kazoo, ocarina maybe lol

[@giawelch1181]

And french horn. That is a legit technique used in the cadenza of Carl Maria von Weber's Concertino in e minor.

[@chioriki8386]

In spanish is called "flauta" so for me is very weird when people says "recorder is not a flute" lol

[@lenaflute571]

I like that she talks about what's happening inside your mouth when you play, cause i am tired as a flute player listening to comments like you just blow and move fingers. In fact when you play a wind instrument you are very aware of what is happening in your mouth and torso ( lungs, abs etc) You play using almost your whole body.

[@salamonthegreat]

Very much so. Tongue and finger coordination is very important, it's especially obvious on recorder. Any little detail can be heard.

[@InkByt3]

Recorder Gang!!! We are all SO pleased that TwoSetViolin has respect for our beloved instrument!

[@Miriam-ob8tz]

(finally 😂)

[@InkByt3]

@@Miriam-ob8tz Indeed😅

[@Yume-Hanabi]

Lucie sounds amazing! The recorder is a beautiful instrument that doesn't deserve its bad rep, and I'm so glad you gave it a chance to shine!

[@TunedNoise]

This was awesome. I would LOVE to see the boys take a lesson on baroque violin next. Learning to play a period instrument, on a period bow, and learning some early music playing techniques and phrasing. It's so different than modern violin!

[@kathe3745]

It's actually very interesting to learn about the professional playing techniques!

[@beamerandking6169]

Here, we can see Eddy in his natural habitat. He uses his nose to play a wooden instrument known as the “recorder” to satisfy his needs.

[@jordanezell5132]

They picked up on these techniques faster that I expected! They were good students and she’s a good teacher.

[@sabrinai]

I'm just surprised that Brett and Eddy didn't have to play the recorder as kids. Who else learnt it as their first instrument?

[@sofiabosco7892]

Yeah I started when I was 6 and have been playing for almost 8 years

[@sabrinai]

@@sofiabosco7892 nice! What a pro!

[@sofiabosco7892]

@@sabrinai I also have been playing piano for 3 years and plan on being a professional pianist in the future

[@backspacer92]

We learned it after elementary school (grade 1-4), but music was just a "it exists" subject without any purpose after like our first two years in German high school and we stopped learning anything really. No music history at all, no more note readings or instrument learning. We never learned chords and we had to make out chords in our final music exam (grade 13). Teacher's solution was to explain it during the exam, but it failed miserably. I'm still bitter about our music education in school.

[@DragonriderEpona]

​@@backspacer92 auf was für eine Schule und in welchem Bundesland warst du, dass man euch absolut nicht musiktheotetisches beigebracht hat? Bei uns wurde auch viel gesungen, weil iwie alle das wollten, um nichts machen zu müssen, aber trotzdem hatten wir Theorie. (War bei mir aber trotzdem zu wenig für mein musikwissenschaftliches Studium und ich musste mir alles selber beibringen, um die Klausuren bestehen zu können 😅)

[@owenjames877]

Lucie has such a playful and encouraging presence. I would love to see more of her!!!

[@ketsiabk777]

going on tour and still providing videos for us ? Twoset are just incredible :3

[@mecha417]

Eddie had an indirect kiss with Lucie using that white recorder, music does bring people together...!

[@Imonlysleeping2]

Love how Eddy and Lucy are working as a team guiding/celebrating Brett at the end. And I can feel the pressure Brett felt with both of them watching over him lol 6:48

[@DoodlesRCool-kf1ok]

Completely unrelated to the video: I was recently at an ice skating camp, and I was wearing a TwoSetViolin T shirt that said 40 Hours a Day and Practice on the back four times. At that particular day, a guest came over to the camp from Disney on Ice to speak and kinda teach us. After the main lesson, we had to demonstrate our programs. When I went out to do mine, the guest asked me “Are you wearing a Ling Ling shirt?” I can confirm, there is an ice skating community for TwoSetViolin.

[@christophercanadatheist]

I have played that piece and others with Lucie as a guest soloist with my orchestra in Canada. She is delightful to work with.

[@xxPenjoxx]

The recorder was what got me into learning violin! My older brother taught me recorder when i was young, so a few years later, when the music tutors came to teach us in school, I could already play. This led me to being picked for learning an instrument. Thank you to my older brother 🙏 ❤️

[@the180crew]

Would you ever consider trying to do one of these videos on the bagpipes?

[@mariavidineeva2524]

Oh I would love to see that

[@the180crew]

@@mariavidineeva2524 speaking as a piper, I would also love to see it! 😄

[@BilboBagginshehe]

this is a whole genre of videos at this point

[@bedroombunny9529]

I love watching String players be humbled with wind instruments of any kind. The amount of violin players that said that my instrument was easy because it didn't have complex runs (which it still did btw that's in every instrument) only to be brought down to reality when I told them to play it was staggering. Being told you aren't allowed to breathe whenever you want is VERY uncomfortable when you start out.

[@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._]

Mate that proved nothing…if anything, it proved how easy wind instruments were. Just because two internet personalities are exaggerating their struggles, doesn’t make an instrument objectively difficult at all. While two beginner recorder players are able to play Vivaldi in an hour, I wonder how many wind players can even play twinkle twinkle in one hour on the violin?

[@bedroombunny9529]

@@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._ Dude, the only person trying to say their instrument is harder is you. I simply said that people who call wind instruments easy quite often get humbled when they try it. And who can? Hi, me. I am that wind player. It's almost like when you already have a lot of knowledge for musical theory you get to skip quite a few steps in learning an instrument that other beginners don't.

[@penninna]

⁠@@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._at ten, a friend let me borrow his violin for a few minutes and after experimenting a bit, I played twinkle somewhat decently; I only played piano at the time. Violin is most definitely a hard instrument, but don’t discount other musicians’ ability to learn

[@emsewemsie8977]

I think both instruments are very hard to play idk why a competition has to be brought into everything luv

[@bruhbruhbruh575]

@@bedroombunny9529 yeah and wind is still easier than strings so cry

[@zhanger157]

Somehow still better than my half a year of practice. 🙃

[@dancarter3518]

I swear it’s better than my 8 years of playing

[@Cattrix999]

hahah I've been learning for over a year and still sound bad, but I love my recorders :) 😃

[@luisenriquemendezlopez7840]

Keep practicing everybody has it's own development, with time you will be rocking out.

[@tanmaytikle8521]

I love how happy and cheerful she gets when they do something right ❤

[@kudzem]

If my music teacher back in the day taught 1% of what Lucie did here, maybe I wouldn’t hate the recorder so much or even like it.

[@-vunhatgiang-1811]

New challenge: use the the recorder to record something

[@DaFnafermapping]

The next episode they will learn the triangle lol

[@dancarter3518]

The elite instrument, very difficult to master

[@dancarter3518]

I’ve been playing recorder since I was 4 and this makes me so happy 😊😊😂😂

[@mukilnarayanan]

The sequel to the famous recorder vs. violin videos! Welcome recorder gang, finally!

[@mseb3909]

I know a dutchie when I hear one😂

[@user-dm5yz2ev8k]

Imagine editor-san having to listen to this over and over while editing...

[@Lilly-du4hr]

Who doesn’t love twoset! They are simply awesome!!

[@cathleenl6350]

This brings back so many memories of playing recorder in the fourth grade, and the weekly tests/checkpoints!

[@Scarletttsang]

now we know how hard recorder gang learned their instrument😂❤

[@blytheanneliese5408]

It's so awesome to see Brett and Eddy giving love to instruments like the recorder- even though they poke fun at them, they still clearly respect them and it's really cool that we get to seen them on their channel! Lucie is amazing and also so patient 😂 living proof recorder is a serious instrument too 🪈

[@popadjcassie]

Lucy is amazing and a dope teacher. As a self taught recorder player at age like 9 lol I’ve always loved the instrument even though I moved on to the clarinet lol and knowing how to play the recorder helped me when learning the clarinet as I was already familiar with the hand placements and such…

[@Susie_F]

You had me at “first form breathing.” 💀 Perfect timing on these recorder videos too because I’m currently re-learning how play mine. 😂

[@fuyumi27]

Always happy to see a new video!

[@RhythmBOP]

amazing recorder moment

[@EGC_Violin]

This is the quality content I subscribe for 🤣 So glad you got to collab with Lucy!

[@bradleyrossbach3875]

I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet, but it is actually possible to sing into any wind instrument. Woodwind players like clarinets and more commonly saxophones do it in a technique called "growling" to give their sound a dirty quality. Brass players call it multiphonics, and Twoset has actually reacted to it in their "Paganinis of Every Instrument" video. Oystein Baadsvik, the tuba "Paganini" has written several tuba solos that employ multiphonics and the sounds they produce

[@stephenbeck7222]

Yes I think she meant you can literally sing into the instrument and it will resonate out while other wind instruments require some nonstandard multiphonic technique. But that still doesn’t sound like a correct statement.

[@songof6p]

Yes, I've also encountered it once in my bassoon days.

[@wuguay5526]

Love twoset! This is, again, fun!

[@danielsj-escs]

As a recorder player and music teacher, I LOVED this! Haha, very entertaining.

[@merlinthewizard]

Really fun to watch, thanks for the video!

[@BrannonHardin]

I thought it was impossible to be good at recorder until these last two videos of TwoSet. Good Educational videos

[@gracebauer5120]

Lucie is entrancing!! And a great teacher. And this was hilarious to boot.

[@marendoreengiesbrecht293]

I played this Vivaldi concerto for a competition this year. One of my fav recorder concerti. Absolutely loved performing it and coming back to it every once in a while!

[@mayanderes9084]

She’s so sweet and cute how she gets so excited for them when they get it right!!! 🥰

[@eiralinnea]

Lucie is so cool, I wish someone taught recorder for adults here, it is one of the few instruments my hands are big enough for and learning the breath support for recorder would be a huge help in singing!

[@andrewcordle2424]

This is actually a good beginner’s lesson from Lucie (but what incredible patience she has with these 2 clowns - I’m happy to see her laugh though‼️)😵‍💫😱😁

[@ieeerr.]

Hearing her accent I was like “Is she Dutch?” she is Dutch. Go Dutchie. 🌸🇳🇱

[@adhiantos]

"Lets do a little bit of the last movement of the flautino concerto" "I thought we're playing hot cross buns" HAHAHA. But Lucie seems like a kind, patient and cool teacher!

[@PotatoMan-wb1ll]

Bro it is great watching yall trying this stuff

[@WS102]

Hey! It's Lucie! I'm already a long time subscriber of her channel and it's awesome to see her on TwoSet! She's an amazing recorder player. It's cool to see Eddy and Brett playing recorder too.

[@dancarter3518]

This video is honestly just a whole vibe

[@TwoSetViolinEdits]

Hey Brett and Eddy, you probably won’t see this but... I started to hating the violin because the lessons 2 months or so before competitions always left me in tears. When I was at home my myself, I would take a long rest from practice to go on KZbin and calm myself down. That never worked because as I’m watching a video, I would zone out and only think of my depressing lessons. One day, I came across your videos that gave me flashbacks of when I was 4-5 years old and my dad would always show me your videos. I watched your video and that was the first time I had laughed in what felt like forever. As I kept watching your vids, for once I realized that there were so many more people in the world that understand me. And this was actually right before I was going to tell my mom I wanted to quit violin and piano. You guys helped me find a little piece deep inside of me that I never knew was there. A part of me that was so difficult to find, but you still found it on the other side of the screen. And that little piece was my love for music. Ever since you’ve helped me find it, I’ve held it tightly, feeling its warmth, and promising to never it let it go. And since then, that part of me has grown, maybe a little too much, because it used to be the size of a fine tuner, but now, it’s become my life. I also promised myself to never stop watching the two amazing people that helped me find this part of me. Promised myself not just to hold on to my love for music forever, but also to hold on to my love and gratefulness for Brett & Eddy forever. And to love both those things infinitely. TwoSet, thank you so much. I owe you everything. *PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME POST THIS ON REDDIT AND LIKE THIS COMMENT SO BRETT AND EDDY HAVE A BETTER CHANC OF SEEING THIS!!!*

[@sofiabosco7892]

I love this comment, but I don't have a Reddit account so sorry

[@kajsa1478]

I hope the tour is going well!! I hope the tour can stop in Oslo, Norway. I really wish to see you live!!

[@oxoelfoxo]

I thought they're done with the European leg and now it's the North American and Asian stops but the tour website still have some European destinations so they plan to go back? I'm confused. Maybe it all depends on the number of sign-ups

[@kajsa1478]

@@oxoelfoxo Yes, kinda, but tour has only just begun. This is their 2023-2024 tour, and they have only annoced the places for "leg 1", meaning its a lot more tour dates and cities to come! :D Also the tour is lasting until 2024, but their last stop at leg 1 in vancouver was on July 6th, so yeah.. im keeping my hpes up! :D

[@tak-el-uc]

Lucie should do a sit in with a student recorder class as a pretend beginner the same way Eddie and Brett did.

[@asddsa-uy9ko]

her "Pašona kolo" performance was amazing.

[@benjers-2187]

this is so fun, i am currently trying to learn piccolo right now and have listened to this concerto many time 😅

[@fenna_pel]

+1 for 3 musicians being good sports :) very nice follow up on previous videos 👍thx for the video :-)

[@user-kn5zj4dz7f]

Thanks for a free master class :D

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

good job tsv! this time it's the recorder! nice returning to the recorder after probably 3 years or something?

[@tiffanyho2643]

Ahhhh this is the video we need!

[@NhiTran-jh7mo]

Music to my ears ~

[@reners212]

Omg I love this

[@Austin-vy6kw]

This video is an absolute gem and I got so excited when I saw it

[@AnonyMous-xd7xq]

What a great way to collaborate between different gangs!!!

[@landsgevaer]

Lovely dutch young lady! 💛

[@jihanjoo]

I'm learning to play the recorder as an adult and it's such a versatile and pleasant sounding instrument. Currently learning Bach' Badinerie (orchestral suite) and Brandenburg concerto no. 2.

[@toramenor]

Another great video - I love all their vids about learning an instrument in an hour (well, "learning" 😂)

[@ragnarkisten]

She looks so happy every time they do something half right!

[@midsize_car]

It's been 3 years since the roasting incident. Time flies so quickly.

[@Ca7iburn]

Awesome collab!

[@parsafarjammusic28]

I took part in a recorder ensemble for many years when I was younger, and the noises of them making mistakes just sent me back to the ensemble days... good old times. Also, I think Eddy might have a German recorder while Brett and Lucy have Baroque ones and that's why the fingering was different on his recorder

[@humblesparrow]

Wow, definitely more involved than I would have thought, based on memories.

[@nuncaviisso]

I come to click on a new video and the first thing that I see is Lucie and a wild Brett and Eddy playing 'mary had a little lamb' with their nose

[@kiro9291]

that was actually so insightful

[@LadyPelikan]

It's such a beautiful sound! I which you'd record a baroque piece for recorder and violin!

[@alinglingwannabeinthewild471]

Me who already predicted that this episode was gonna come: That's right twoset is bringing back the old video formats

[@gamingwithbrayan9928]

THIS IS MY DREAM VIDEO

[@sushfire5243]

lucie sensei

[@Naylihhh]

Always a good day when Brett and Eddy post's a video:D

[@IgarashiDai]

Was so confused because her voice sounded so familiar, but I had never seen her before… turns out she’s Dutch, so the familiar thing was her accent and word choice haha. It suddenly hit me when she used some typically Dutch onomatopoeia lol.

[@zoemalone5769]

what was the onomatopoeia she used? i'm curious now

[@IgarashiDai]

@@zoemalone5769 Right around 02:30, she uses two different ones, and the second one I’ve heard a lot before in these parts lol. Maybe it’s not specifically Dutch, but it is common here (although more associated with like, driving on very uneven roads)

[@songof6p]

She's just demonstrating tongue techniques, not using it as an onomatopoeia. Every wind player around the world will make the same sounds to explain double tongue regardless of language.

[@Pixelslet]

The 'ja' is also a give away ;)

[@cloverhighfive]

She went from roasting to hosting! hahaha Great idea :D

[@Spairov]

I need more recorder videos Lucie is the best

[@hannekehartkoorn5987]

Nice to see another Dutch recorder player featuring after the challenge with Sarah Jeffery's Team Recorder!

[@TheValyanna]

I played the recorder for 5 years and was so much fun 😊 Nice that you give it a try!

[@malahamavet]

You are on your path to redieme yourselves and bring honour to the recorder

[@baronvonsatan]

*redeem but points for creativity!

[@dilnaznasserdinova2779]

I had bought a recorder year ago, it’s my sign to start actually learning it

[@PaulJimenez3]

Glad to see Brett and Eddy branching out! Practical niceties about the recorder: it's small, cheap, has no reeds, and as long as intact, won't go out of tune! It's about as simple an instrument as you can get.

[@sofiabosco7892]

And yet it's so hard to play well

[@joycastle.]

I have a few tin whistles. Smaller, cheaper, no reeds either, can't be tuned either, and I prefer the sound. They're much less flexible though - you only have the notes of a specific major scale (D, most commonly), and notes that are not in that scale are quite hard to produce cleanly, so you can really only play tunes in the main major key and its minor parallel, although one step to the flat side in the circle of fifths also works mostly fine (so a tune in G can be played ok on a D whistle). No idea why first graders are supposed to play recorders instead when the alternative is easier and cheaper (and therefore better to introduce children to making music - I suppose quite a few kids were actually discouraged from making music because they hated playing the recorder in first grade).

[@joshuapettus6973]

@@joycastle. 100% agree. Recorder is a technically complicated instrument. It's makes no sense why it was chosen by the world's school systems as the "beginning" instrument. I have to say out of tradition at this point... Btw, I hear you can get some chromatacisim out of a tin whistle if you use half holes. I should get a few and try it out. I once did have a fife which is the exact same fingering.

[@salamonthegreat]

@@joshuapettus6973 Well the main reason I see is the lack of any embouchure needed to actually make a sound - you just blow and you make noise. (Doesn't mean it's an easy instrument to master however.) It's also cheap if you mass manufacture in plastic especially with no keywork. A lot of people were actually against the idea of making recorders the beginner instrument in the 50s exactly for the reasons as seen in this video.

[@joycastle.]

@@joshuapettus6973 Yeah, the half holes work, but it isn't super clean. I suppose with 40h practice per day, you can make it work, but at my amateur level it's always a bit of hit and miss. But music for first graders should be rather simple, anyway, so the limitation isn't a big deal. If I remember correctly, an Irish colleague told me that first graders in Ireland actually learn to play the tin whistle, not the recorder.