TOTALLY CHANGE YOUR DRIVE! // How To Use Your Driver Hosel

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@matt9506 2 ай бұрын

I think I'm pretty good at maximising my use of the hosel-I often exclusively use the hosel. Avoids wear on the club face too.

@seansaca 2 ай бұрын

They don’t call me The Hosel Rocket 🚀 for nothing 🤣

@nisch2379 2 ай бұрын

Shankernathan

@SynthaPak 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 this was great thank you for the laugh

@PeakedHill 2 ай бұрын

😂shanks have recently been my most consistent swing

@davidreid2301 2 ай бұрын

😂 I'm at the other end, the toe on my driver is worn out more than the toes of my Dr Martin boots were back in the '80's!

@thecavitybackgolfer 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I think each sleeve has its pluses and minuses but your comment at the end about which golfer needs face angle vs lie angle sums it best. I have a new Mizuno ST 230 Max and I like the sleeve (similar to TaylorMade) but I play a shorter length and prefer flatter lie angles and more neutral to open faces. The one big plus about Callaway, is that you can keep your grip oriented the same no matter the adjustment.

@stevemcgurn 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great info! I play a g430 9* lst as a lefty. I came across a video on ping sleeves when trying to dial back a fade. I flattened my lie, added back some loft, and moved the weight to neutral (from draw) and I’m hitting them straight and 20-30 yards further with an occasional bias towards a fade. Centering the weight as opposed to assuming the draw setting would neutralize the fade exposed some weird gear effect and neutralizing the CG made a big difference. Love this technical type of content!

@KyleW0806 2 ай бұрын

I have the same driver as a righty… I’m having trouble with consistency and keeping it in fairway. I got fitted from Club Champion. I’m gonna have to go back

@MikeMontplaisir 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I would love to see a closeup of you making the adjustments to the hosels. All we see is the driver being handed off and a couple of clicks with the wrench and that's it. I'm new to these adjustable hosels and not quite sure moving what ring affects what.

@theroad2ten 2 ай бұрын

I think it’s actually pretty great that the sleeves haven’t changed in awhile because it allows us to try the same shaft in multiple heads or upgrade head only when we want something new

@johnbrodnik839 2 ай бұрын

Nice explanation of the two types of loft sleeves! Ian, it looks like you are swinging well using The Ali Shuffle prior to swinging - looks great!

@stephenlee2571 2 ай бұрын

Thinking about the Taylormade sleeve, there is a setting UPRT, could you cover off the adjustments that this setting can make?

@mikepraught5708 Ай бұрын

Generally Moves your start line left when you go more upright

@mikepraught5708 Ай бұрын

Great if you are a slicer

@cryptoking8060 2 ай бұрын

This is by far the most informative and thorough explanation of loft sleeves. Had no idea between the options of single vs double axis sleeves. I def want to testa titlist driver now. Play Cobra currently and assume it's a single axis. Want the tweak ability of that double axis. very cool. I hit a draw 99% of the time with a decidedly flat swing and need to flatten the face while leaving the loft the same and didn't even realize this was possible. Very cool. Titleist here we come...

@DanGranz72 2 ай бұрын

Great idea for a video. One of the most interesting things was how the lie angle of the drivers and impact lie angle affected the shot shape and performance. Really great info for people to see how important it is to hit some shots with different drivers and even different settings to unlock that "optimal" setting/driverhead/shaft combo for that golfer.

@MichiganMan923 2 ай бұрын

Going to have me trying the different settings on my Driver. I typically have only adjusted the loft. Never tried some of the other options

@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын

is it true that for every degree of loft on a single axis sleeve, you can expect a corresponding 1.8* change of face angle? 1 Degree lower Loft = 1.8 degree open and vice versa for the other direction.

@jdub63916 2 ай бұрын

I was going to ask the same question.

@guywhittern2800 2 ай бұрын

That is correct if the club is grounded. The assumption from the manufacturers is that the player will grip the club and square it up off the ground. So when you drop loft, the face angle opens, and then the reduction in loft is achieved by the player then ‘shutting’ the face to square it up. You could argue it’s all a bit of a con. Unless you hover the club and square it up in your hands, you never actually change the loft.

@ocat1979 2 ай бұрын

@@guywhittern2800exactly. You can’t have both a loft and face angle adjustment at the same time. It’s one or the other. Marketing con

@Remington6knight 2 ай бұрын

As a predominantly right to left path / over the top swing player, what would be a better adjustment? Face angle or lie? My current gamer (cobra Aerojet LS 9deg) I have set at standard loft in a draw setting. I find it hard to manage spin rate and face angle….

@Chris_Traynor 2 ай бұрын

I think you mixed up flatter and upright in the description @ 11:06. Or are drivers different from irons? With irons my understanding was that a flatter lie angle iron plays effectively longer and more upright lie angle plays shorter. Is it not the same for a driver?

@MiniSweetz 2 ай бұрын

Perfect timing, here I was googling about this yesterday lol.

@mootrail9487 2 ай бұрын

Where the changed settings swings with the Cally?

@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын

Good video. I always wonder as well how to think about using the wrong-handed sleeve. Ex, a lefty sleeve on a righty driver, and vice versa.

@Sid-np3hf 21 күн бұрын

Can you please explain a RHer using a LHed Ping adapter. I understand that the polarity of the loft is reversed. Is there any other effect? Does the face angle reverse as well? I mean open & closed.

@naderzein2435 2 ай бұрын

The "UPRT" setting on my SIM2 has been a gamechanger for me. Can swing hard at it and I get little baby fades every time.

@Kevin-yh6dn 2 ай бұрын

I don’t know what has the more perfect glow when going up against each other in a close frame shot. The Ping hosel or Ian’s manly, savage tan!! Just kidding, my liege:) As always Lads, thank you for always being informative and keeping it fun for me. You guys are the best.

@prathanw7091 2 ай бұрын

After adjusting the sleeve, do we need to adjust the club face to be squared, or just let its sole sit as it is?

@scottbartlett1567 2 ай бұрын

If I have a slight fade and I hit the ball out of the middle/heel, what setting should I be using for my titleist tsi3. Right now I have it on H2 and d3 for sleeve

@matthewlaw8268 2 ай бұрын

Great video, I would love to go through all the drivers and settings to see what works best for me.

@markscott4059 2 ай бұрын

I think Honma has the most interesting sleeve. You can make the changes to the driver with out rotating the shaft. Honma are spine aligned so the alignment stays the same, so does your grip logo and shat graphics. Don’t know why more companies are not doing this?

@kwalter2323 2 ай бұрын

Not sure if I missed it, but all of these loft sleeves do not change the actual static loft of the driver. Any loft sleeve in the plus setting will close the face angle that way in order for it to actually affect delivered loft you have to open the face angle when you strike the ball

@robertbogdan7058 2 ай бұрын

Other than simplicity and ease of use why doesn't everyone use a double axis sleeve adjustment? It would seem that more = better in this case. Patent protection?

@marinmb44 2 ай бұрын

I know. Callaway’s is the best for this because both cogs are independent of the shaft and you can align the shaft graphic regardless of the adaptor setting

@MG-ro7nl 2 ай бұрын

Do you have to sole the driver for it to work? If I always manipulate the face to look square, wouldn’t the loft always be the same?

@bd500 2 ай бұрын

“All fit” adapter on my shaft, if I change head brand I can change collar to match, keep my ventus tr shaft. If I go to the local range I can demo different driver heads all with my shaft and grip.

@mattsquatch412 2 ай бұрын

Broke a shaft once. TaylorMade sent me a new one. Once I started to play it, my drives were all over the place. Went to the sim and my face was wide open. Turns out they sent me a LEFT HANDED sleeve on the new shaft! Totally opposite of my original settings. They were nice enough to replace it no questions asked.

@drumcatnau 2 ай бұрын

I switched to Callaway specifically because their sleeves are superior. All adjustments and keep the grip the same, and the settings have a real effect.

@bm5192 2 ай бұрын

Does club champ offer this type of session with current driver if not looking to change?

@kevinoneill2170 2 ай бұрын

They typically refer to this as a retrofit. Ian has talked about this service during their Monday Live shows a number of times. They did a video back on April 18th for their Follower Fittings called How to Get the Most Out of Your Current Clubs. It was focused on irons, but they did a retrofit of the golfer's existing irons and ended up adjusting his lofts and lie angles. It'll give you a good idea of what the process is like. Club Champion has a blog post from a couple years ago called “Fitting existing sets.” It's not very detailed but it covers this service too.

@bm5192 2 ай бұрын

@@kevinoneill2170 thanks for the info

@joshharless6014 2 ай бұрын

What about a LH Cobra sleeve for a RH player? I think it’s the opposite for loft but what about the draw settings?

@tuamgolfer 2 ай бұрын

Could you comment on the Mizuno ST-G driver with single axis loft sleeve but moveable weights.

@andrewhay8033 2 ай бұрын

Would it ever be possible for them to make an adapter where you can raise or lower the loft, without openimg or closing the face? I could do with lowering my ball flight but hate the look of an open face at adress. Then i start missing it right with a cut

@GeelongDevil 2 ай бұрын

Why don’t you just adjust the club in your hands so the face is neutral? At the end of the day, that’s what actually delivers the lower loft. If you’re addressing the ball with an open face and hitting cuts, you’re not actually changing the loft.

@andrewhay8033 2 ай бұрын

@@GeelongDevil to reduce the loft on a driver adapter it causes the face to open. So if I just hold it neutral at address then I'm just undoing the loft back to what it was effectively

@GeelongDevil 2 ай бұрын

@@andrewhay8033I’m afraid you have a fundamental misunderstanding about how loft sleeves work. The loft is changed when you square the face. The face angle only changes if you let the club rest on the ground and let it fall into its natural position. This is because changing the loft sleeve changes the angle in which the shaft fits into the head. This changes the relationship between the balance point of the club and the position on the sole of the club that is in contact with the ground.

@andrewhay8033 2 ай бұрын

@@GeelongDevil all I know is when you change the loft on the driver it sits different when you put it behind the ball. It opens the face to lower the loft and shuts face to increase loft. If it didn't do this then manufacturers would surely just make 1 or 2 lofts. Like an 8 degree driver head and a 10. Then you could just adjust them up or down and get your required loft. I heard Rory McIlroy saying once about how he loves a driver just sitting square at the ball so one time when he was just changing the loft he changes head rather than change it on the loft sleeve because it won't sit right to his eye. Same as what I'm saying

@user-do1fq8oy9c 2 ай бұрын

I use 2017 M1s. Is there a dual axis loft sleve for these?

@colinmorgan1025 2 ай бұрын

I love my driver to sit square . So when i adjust it i always hold it to sit square . Does this negate the adjustment for loft

@GeelongDevil 2 ай бұрын

No, not at all. Returning the face angle to square is actually what delivers the adjusted loft.

@411adaptivegolf 2 ай бұрын

Should mention with the single if you use an alignment grip it will change that also. With the double your grip alignment stays the same

@davidreid2301 2 ай бұрын

I went through multiple fittings with different brands, and I found that Titleist T200's were the best irons for me, but my usual fit is 1 degree upright at standard length, but the Titleist hostel only changes by 2 degree increments, so I found it really frustrating that I couldn't see how it could actually perform for me after borrowing a 7i from my pro shop and taking on course with a wrench to go between standard and 2 degree upright. I really needed to try it with just 1 degree upright! Really annoying!

@TheLeftyGolfer84 2 ай бұрын

I wish everyone used a Callaway style hosel. I want my face square no matter what the loft. I will manipulate the face angle if I want to for a certain shot. Love my Taylormade drivers, but I’m probably going to pick up a Callaway soon to try them out.

@BruceBusby 2 ай бұрын

Callaway wins for the most adjustable and keeps the shaft oriented (important for some that play grips that orientation is important). Personally, I really like Titleist drivers since the TS series. You bought the whole thing, might as well experiment with the settings to maximize your performance

@arturomilward3369 2 ай бұрын

Great information on the brands ……….. thank you much

@kyleaubu 2 ай бұрын

I've always been surprised that there has never been an aftermarket offering for a dual axis sleeve for taylormade or any of the other single axis sleeves. It's wouldn't be terribly difficult to do.

@kellyharbour7140 2 ай бұрын

Please keep the stats up for a couple of seconds after a shot. I back up and pause to study the details. Maybe even explain one in a video. You guys are scientists!

@ZeeK33NKS 2 ай бұрын

I LOVE THIS STUFF!

@random_dad99 2 ай бұрын

Maybe it’s just my brain getting lost in the sauce as they say. Have a Cobra Driver, tried messing with the settings over the past few years to see what works best. The driver head always seems to look the same when I set it down. Just shaft is rotated. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@ianfrasergolf 2 ай бұрын

Cobra call that design smart pad. They actually intentionally want to the driver to look similar in different settings. The loft and lie will change but the face angle remains fairly neutral.

@stevenmiddleton7175 2 ай бұрын

Does moving the PXG around invalidate the shaft's Pureing ?

@tessp100d4 2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t matter. Puréing is a waste of money.

@CamMacMastermusic 2 ай бұрын

As a Wilson Dyna Power player I like it the best.

@Huntgolfride 2 ай бұрын

I have a Ping fitted by your facility that was 9 deg head. Struggled to get it in the air, so I started moving the hosel adjust around. I tend to hook it, so I went into the flatter settings to increase loft to 10 deg but hated it, I'm currently into the 10.5 deg on the normal lie angle side with no real benefit noticed. For me, I think the head has to be fit to hopefully work in the neutral setting and once you start getting into that hosel adjustment, you're likely going to be unhappy. It doesn't sit on the ground properly anymore. In the neutral setting, I sit the club behind the ball and its nice and flat with the face pointing at the target. In any of the other settings, the head points off line and you have to physically hold the driver face to point at the target which is inconsistent and difficult to replicate. I cant get it to work, so am looking for another driver.

@mikecoughlin4128 2 ай бұрын

why wouldn't you go back to the fitter and work it all out? I would hope that follow up would be no charge.

@Huntgolfride 2 ай бұрын

@@mikecoughlin4128 I did, but the fitter suggested my swing was different and then shortly after that he was no longer employed with them. I live 4 hours away and may reach out again this fall but I haven’t decided. They are usually pretty easy to work with, I’ve been there several times.

@raymondsimpson2755 2 ай бұрын

So guys what’s your thoughts on this, I play a TSR3 10 Deg driver on A4 setting went for a GT3 fitting and was put in an 11 Deg head on A1 setting, (with improved club head & ball speed) must admit at 63 and playing off 3 I don’t have the consistency I once had and subsequently depending on what I find on the range before a comp I’m not adverse to tweaking my driver, even down to D1. So I question whether 11 or in fact 10 is the best head starting point. Answer is probably to practice more and stop being a tweaker. Best Regards Raymond

@henkieboy8133 2 ай бұрын

Great video! and a bit different but absolutely relevant. What i would like to see in future videos is just a little more elaboration on the conclusion. A summary that states for the viewers what youve found, how to implement or practice the findings of your research, and in some cases even best picks in different scenarios. Id like some more clarity in your last part of these videos. Cheers from Norway

@lathamstylemtb 2 ай бұрын

So the goal is not to have a 0* toe up lie angle but to move it upright or flat to fix start lines?

@alvermeil5884 2 ай бұрын

My miss is towards the heal. Would upright, or flatter help?

@vincealba6790 2 ай бұрын

sounds like flatter pushes strike to the toe and upright to the heel. I assume this is accurate if you have a fairly neutral swing path. If you come over the top wonder if it still works?

@mikehoffman7131 2 ай бұрын

I just had the weirdest experience this past weekend. I decided to try my 9* Cobra to the +1*D. I normally play the driver +1 regular with a tight little fade and decided to try the D setting and completely lost every single drive right. Not with a fade, just DEAD right. I moved it back to +1 without the D and immediately striping down the fairways.

@jman000 2 ай бұрын

Are you a lefty or righty? +1* closes the face a bit and on a RH driver would make things start left, if anything, not right.

@mikehoffman7131 2 ай бұрын

@@jman000 I'm right handed.. The whole anomaly completely blew me away.

@mitchcopp1136 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I like to play a slight draw so I open the face to get it starting right and turnover. Somewhat counter intuitive

@ohooper 2 ай бұрын

The brain is the most powerful muscle in the body

@DJ33 2 ай бұрын

Good stuff right here.

@rubish2015 2 ай бұрын

Saw that longest drive came from the tm QI, with 2degrees lower loft. You think distance came from head weight, flatter setting, better delivered loft and spin profile? Thanks Love the video

@stang1966gt 2 ай бұрын

Callaway all the way. I do worry the sleeve is significantly heavier than the single axis sleeve

@KyleW0806 2 ай бұрын

Ian’s club speed is around 112-115 mph.. it looks slow and effortless 🤯😮

@jimfarrell7196 2 ай бұрын

Complicated, you hit that one on the head guys.

@becrisp 2 ай бұрын

Awesome 💯

@peterbuzz7279 2 ай бұрын

It's disappointing that there hasn't been a single sleeve standard for all manufacturers. That way you can keep and try your favourite shaft in all the drivers. This has resulted in a massive consumer ripoff when it comes to buying shafts. This includes fairway woods and hybrids. Hopefully manufacturers will someday agree on a universal sleeve.

@William-Bill-Munny 2 ай бұрын

The worry of changing your pured shaft from a quality mfg seems almost laughable when you do not want to adjust the shaft because of it😅. Yeah if your a pro or maybe a 115mph swinger but really? we are not all F1 drivers who quibble over a 1mm ride height change.

@TheGodfather2727 2 ай бұрын

Damn that GT is quick

@clubchampionmedia 2 ай бұрын

So quick

@kyleaubu 2 ай бұрын

You guys never addressed the concept of using a left-handed sleeve on a right-handed driver and what implications it would have on loft and lie. I'm very curious about this.

@kyleaubu 2 ай бұрын

Specifically I'm curious about the Taylormade adapter.

@BlairBN01 2 ай бұрын

Just does the opposite in terms of loft adjustment than it says on the sleeve (eg -2deg is +2deg). Lie angle adjusts the same, so in the case of TM sleeve, it’s always more upright for every change.

@lanmurgatroyd9503 2 ай бұрын

I think the Anser had a sleeve...

@iancanoy3888 2 ай бұрын

What about cobra? :(

@dropkickdrones4569 2 ай бұрын

Puring is complete nonsense!!

@jongeephotography 2 ай бұрын

Puring standardizes within a particular set of shafts so they all test out the same.....

@joetato2227 2 ай бұрын

Agree, if it made any significant difference the manufacturer woud certainly do it and build it in to the cost of the shaft.

@tessp100d4 2 ай бұрын

Puréing is a waste of cash

@TZOID08 2 ай бұрын

The Ping G25 , i25 , Anser were the 1st loft sleeves............

@user-dx7ej6cs5t 2 ай бұрын

The only thing I do is crank the loft as low as possible and find a huge yardage gap

@SevnZeroFive 2 ай бұрын

Mizuno to were out here lol

@elilithiluxa6090 2 ай бұрын

What happened to that other dude that used to do the videos?

@nickmillar9651 2 ай бұрын

I never get any change out of the changes

@troyrambo6804 2 ай бұрын

The Callaway is by far the easiest, Titleist is good but you need a card to know what it's adjusting to. Cobra and Ping and PXG are ok, but again shaft/grip orientation changes and Taylormade is by far the worst as it's just plain awful.

@BrandonD-y6f 2 ай бұрын

PXG???? How to set their hosel?

@marinmb44 2 ай бұрын

Isnt it the same as any single axis, like taylormade or ping?

@wbubbles5960 2 ай бұрын

@@marinmb44yep, it’s almost identical to ping

@Averyravynwood 2 ай бұрын

I’d just love to be able to carry 300

@jimorr3252 2 ай бұрын

Been playing golf for a long time and there’s always a controversy of what exactly and I know it depends on the player, but what is a good height for the driver?