LEARN HOW TO HIT A DRAW // Clubface & Wrist Angles to Fix a Slice

[@jginda1]

Guys this is the single best swing key I have been given in years. I’m a long hitter who has been suffering from tendinitis in my left hand (I’m a righty) it’s been getting better but I’ve lost distance since coming back and my swing has felt finicky. I just absolutely striped 150 balls at my old distance with a better dispersion than I have in my life. Thank you so much…oh and no hand pain the entire time. Absolutely insane.

[@Jeremy_Walker]

HAHA, we started playing offhand, so we could see what it's like to be as awful at golf as the rest of you!

[@chrisfrost6581]

That really made me giggle

[@andreaechevarria6725]

Just when I thought this channel couldn't get any better you drop this on us. Absolute gold. Gained a few extra yards doing this. Not bad for an old lady.

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍🚀🚀

[@ianfrasergolf]

Love it Andrea!!! Good for you for giving it a try!! 👏🏻

[@RecklessRusty]

This channel is for the golf obsessed. I love it!

[@JJ_TheFitRecruiter]

Clubbing fitting, product knowledge, course play vlogs, AND swing lessons?!!! B E S T golf channel on KZbin. Hands down. Props and love from the Bay Area, CA. Keep doing you Ian & Matt...it’s working and resonating with us.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Thanks Jonathan!! 👍🏻

[@kylehansen2156]

You guys primarily do equipment related videos but this is the best golf instruction video on KZbin for the greatest amount of golfers.

[@carterkole9677]

Always a fantastic Tuesday when you seen TXG uploads

[@GracefulShanks]

Described me to a T. Serial cut/slicer that has plateau'd as a 12 handicapper for last 5 years. I could hit a draw only by timing my wrists and hips on the downswing with unreliable success. Went to the range to try this out and it was night and day difference in ball flight. Now I just to need reps and hopefully I can begin to creep into the 70s next year. Thanks guys!

[@arklowrockz]

That is a really awesome thing to do. To deliberately make yourself to go back to square one. You now empathize with the plebs. Nice one!!

[@adamatallah6605]

Just watched this for the first time yesterday and this is easily one of the best golf videos on the internet. I've watched a lot of them and after taking this tip to the driving range I am seeing my inconsistently struck high fade into a consistent draw. I've got to work on my timing a bit but this will completely change my game for the better once I lock my timing in. I imagine that the timing will be much easier now that I'm not cupping my wrist which was leading to a lot of wrist action at impact. Thank you so much, guys! I can't wait to take this out on the course.

[@dewbach1]

These boys know their onions. Love watching these guys showing us the script in fine detail

[@sinaazimi7328]

This is a great tip for anyone who wants to fix their slice. I took a lesson last week and my coach told me the exact same thing. Wrist position of the lead arm in the take away and backswing determines your club face angle (open or close). fix that and you will fix the slice.

[@johntemplin7100]

Awesome classic boys , well done and thankyou

[@stuartholmes6262]

Ian described me perfectly. As a 50 year old trying to unlearn things I was taught way back when and do things properly is very hard.

[@rufussthoo4083]

Same here Stuart, only I have an extra 10 years of doing things 'wrong'. Unlearning 45 years of embedded learning has not been easy.

[@christopherfarrell3333]

I see a lot of people asking for the fade video, which I’m sure you will do at some point , but I think you guys should keep things in order with what YOU guys are working on in your swings. If the next thing you guys work on is path or sequencing then that should be the next video. It would give people trying to improve a plan on how they should go about correcting their mechanics. A lot of people don’t understand where to start when trying to change mechanics. Keep’en coming either way, appointment content.

[@IT-li3ul]

All I can add to this is ...in to out club path ,,hitting down on the ball ,,,and bowed wrists ,,,all this helped me 👍

[@zacknewman6697]

I hit a super high fadeand love it. I struggled with the low hook for EVER! these wrist angles are the everything and I didnt even think about it for the longest time. Its simple but it will really take your game to the next level

[@TrevorDandy.]

Those strike patterns though hahahaha! I just rewatched the "Value driver" video and Matty absolutely buttoned 5 in a row with his TSi and then I rewatched this. I'm having a good chuckle at how beat up the bottom of that T400 is gonna look

[@robh316]

Hells bells guys I've been trying to stop hitting across the ball watched all sorts had lessons nothing worked until I tried this, ball flight is straight now with a baby draw sometimes big thanks from Me 👍

[@dominickdelfino7552]

I am struggling to not hit a draw, I would say my draw is even more of a hook, how about a video on how to fix that! Love your channel guys!

[@ottawapop]

You and me brother.....either a nasty pull hook or a push left. I hate them both. All I need is a sweet 3 yard draw..

[@ottawapop]

I meant push right.....

[@dominickdelfino7552]

@@ottawapop I just got fitted for new clubs after being inspired by TXG and now it seems like a more dramatic curve! If the course is all dog legs left I am in great shape though :)

[@kourt2469]

@@dominickdelfino7552 have you had the lie angles checked? Maybe the shaft is stiffer with the new set and not drooping as much as the old set so your getting more curve

[@stephencarroll5346]

Yee show us da fade please👏

[@timseebold2355]

Great piece! Loved the break down, result area impressive too! 👍

[@KlokStudios]

Man you guys are awesome, I can't wait to try this so simple and easy to understand.

[@ricblic901]

really good lesson, I actually started doing this after watching how the really good players swing, how they take the ball away from the club, thanks

[@gizit16]

Cant wait to watch this video!! Hopefully it helps!

[@spoderman8351]

Thank you for this video! I played baseball growing up and it formed some really bad wrist habits that I’ve been working on for a while. Huge help!

[@robbotronomer]

I've recently watch this video along with a good good lab's video and taking tips from them both I have started to hit nice draws with my irons, I just struggle to hit a draw with my driver now

[@lukedevos8388]

TXG = best in the business

[@markwitchell102]

Push slice all my life, tried this exact thing a few weeks back. Feels wrong and back to front at first, definitely a few snap hooks at first but kept practicing it and now my normal shot is a slight draw. Had never hit a draw before. Has only worked with the irons, still can’t get the driver figured out. Great video guys👍

[@richb326]

Hopefully I can take this to the range. A cupped lead wrist has been my big problem for a long time. Particularly on those ‘off days’ when my timing is out

[@hankvoight3326]

Can you teach us how to hit a controller cut? Every time I try, I just end up drawing it less

[@jacobmccain8082]

Me too man. I basically aim my "cut" right at the flag because if it does actually fade its not fading more than 1-2 yards. I struggle with pushes also with my fade.

[@cjlafleur7585]

I second this big time. I naturally draw the ball and I can't hit a fade to save my life. I thought I was about the only one who couldn't hit a fade. I actually get pulls when I try to hit a fade.

[@hankvoight3326]

Jacob McCain I either hit it straight or shank it because my hands get too far front from me trying to come from the outside

[@stevep2760]

That's not really a bad thing... Taking away one side of the course is more important than being able to shape the ball both ways. Just accept that there are some pins you won't be able to go after, and play for the middle of the green on those holes...

[@danielcouser6452]

Great series this

[@NaSolid]

This is pretty funny, this was the swing change I did a couple days ago to fix my open face that started since I switched to jumbomax grips. Though my image going up is driving a motorcycle and wanting to accelerate.

[@maddad4767]

On slow rounds where we wait on tee boxes... we do "contests". Par 3 driver is awesome nice slow controlled swing... can really poke it... and off-handed on open fairways... ridiculously out of whack....(I have no idea what to even do with my hands) you can learn a lot with both.

[@ccmorgan53]

My draw is more pull to pull draw . Thanks for this info . Will take to range . Awesome video 👍👍👍

[@robsomerville3145]

Ball position back a little will help. Pushes path to the right for a RHander. Face closed to path draw city!

[@wallstreetoneil]

The 4 people who voted Thumbs down have houses on the hook side of a fairway and are now panicking.

[@fit2yougolf926]

Good stuff guys! The wrist angle is very reminiscent of Dante's Backward Thumb Press from The Four Magic Moves. Does wonders for the face angle when combined with the right path...which you two have seemed to figure out rather quickly playing opposite handed. I hate you guys! ;-)

[@DavidSmith-lo7wf]

Great job as always 👍 I have definitely been seeing and trying to work more on the wrist angles this year with some success (when I focus on it). I definitely fell in the category of learning the "toe to the sky" takeaway fault...

[@JAW_73]

That toe up standard teaching that they talked about ruined my swing for the longest time. It wasn't until I just decided to keep the face of my club "square" through the entire swing that I became more consistent. Yes, my swing was too upright, closed in the backswing, and lacked distance for a while, but at least I wasn't slicing and shanking balls with an open face because I didn't get the club square at impact. If it is never off square then it can't be off at the bottom. Make a simple pendulum with as few moving parts as possible. The speed and power will come later. This is for someone that was struggling to break 100 and high 90's. Still not good but am in the low 90's now.

[@joshcarnevale6943]

Hey Guys, Great videos, love that your going into more of the swing dynamics, would it be possible to get a video on the proper way to grip the club? I feel especially with junior golfers that the grip is where alot of amateurs struggle with. Keep up the great work.

[@jeffmurata4287]

another really great video, guys. great information. i'm not sure i like seeing you hit an off-handed 6-iron just about as far as i do though... 😊

[@sathyasubramanian5622]

I've been experimenting with this for the last couple months. I think another good queue for some people is hinging the trail wrist back. This can help get a bowed left wrist also since people generally feel more control in their trail arm.

[@paulwebendorfer5627]

Matt with the right-hand club and Ian with the left-hand club is really messing me up. Thanks for the great content guys... really enjoy the videos and learn a lot!

[@charlieodom9107]

yeah...I kept saying "aren't you guys on the wrong sides?"

[@jeremyk5193]

what a great tip. thanks

[@ndnd1671]

Can't wait for an on course vlog using opposite handed!

[@Tonner1888]

Loved this, especially the POV insight. I do a lot of what's discussed in this video ok, however have a tendency to come well under plane in a Raymond Floyd kinda fashion, any tips for this flaw?

[@golf007sd2]

Solid info gents...thx!

[@banditbaker1675]

For me, the hardest part of learning to hit the ball with draw spin was to give myself permission to start the ball right and it was Ian at my Fitting 2 years ago that finally got the message into my brain that it was ok to aim right to start the ball right so that it can draw left.

[@whiskerrub3821]

Actually Bandit I am not so sure these boys are saying it’s too late for us old timers the only way we can see our ball drawing is to start hitting opposite handed. 😂 Welcome to the Dark Side Bandit!

[@banditbaker1675]

@@whiskerrub3821 sometimes during my warm up I take a few lefty swings, but I almost fall over it feels that odd........but then I am pretty odd......off to play this morning.....wish me luck

[@whiskerrub3821]

@@banditbaker1675 Feel vs Real and then there is Odd vs Unique 😉 Have fun!

[@banditbaker1675]

@@whiskerrub3821 Yep, I'm odd and my Golf game is unique👍 As always I managed to combine some pretty good stuff with the occasional shot where the Ball seems to take off in a completely random direction never to be seen again.....by me anyway😢🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@whiskerrub3821]

@@banditbaker1675 I myself refer refer to those shots as Sacrifices to the Gods or Whoopsies cause Golf needs another term for my shots they aren’t a Draw, Cut, Fade, Slice, Butter Fade or Topped Chunked they are a Whoopsie. 😂 Just having too much fun out playing golf to be anything else.

[@robcoates8091]

Hearing so much good stuff about this one, I'm back for a second view.

[@chachifeere]

Been working the this wrist angle Method for almost a year now. Watch mike malaska and Eric corgano golf he has some amazing vids talking about the wrist angles

[@thepicknpops]

Guys! Cannot thank you enough for this tip. This video had an enormous positive effect on my game. After working hard to get a nice subtle in to out swing path, I have battled and battled with an inability to get the club face closed and was hitting thin pushes. This video was so clear and concise and made so much sense to me that I was able to implement it on the course all most straight away and I haven’t seen such pure strike, high launch angles and nice shot shapes in months and months! Enjoyed golf today more than I have in so long. Amazing work!

[@samuelchoisamchoi714]

This is my issue! This video has been a revelation but haven't had a chance yet to put it to practice. Pushes all day lately and its a club face issue!

[@cjlafleur7585]

I'm in agreement with you guys on the grip. I think the grip is vastly overstated. I actually think the grip doesn't matter very much.

[@jonathonsomers7292]

Awesome video TXG been trying to work on a more repetitive draw shape thanks for the tips

[@Steve-a-Reno15]

Top quality instruction video! Thanks guys!

[@chrisolson3949]

Random question, take two of the exact same driver setup with only one difference in the loft. Would say a 9* driver set at standard sit as open as the same driver in a higher loft adjusted down to 9*? Kind of confusing but hopefully you can help.

[@chriselerick4770]

tyler mcghie gave me that knuckle down feel in one of our lessons. it didn’t work very well for me at the time, but now i think the face is in a good position so maybe it did end up working in the end. it’s a strange feeling!

[@ryaneames3834]

I am now looking up the Andrew Rice golf school and planning a trip to Savannah. Lovely!

[@DeValera22]

Savannah is a wonderful place...so much to enjoy, see, eat...and play golf!

[@radleynelson6697]

Would you give these same recommendations for driver?

[@FratBoyFishing]

Ideally, around how many degrees should my club face be open and how many degrees should my swing path be in to out to hit that idea push draw I always see Matty hit? That's what I really want to understand

[@STBhockey35]

How about doing the opposite and closing the wrists too fast, impacting the ball with a closed face?

[@joegarza1835]

Haven’t seen the complete video yet. I’m on my lunch break at work but where would you apply lead tape to help with a draw on a driver? Thinking of trying this to help with my slice. Thanks guys.

[@joegarza1835]

Weetommy I have a Mizuno ST190. No adjustable weights to move around on it. But love the feel of the driver. I’m going to apply lead tape and take it to the range later today. Thanks.

[@Murf1802]

Two Gentleman ,,humble ,considerate ,and extremely knowledge with the game of golf!!! Ty guys for your help !! I steal your quotes constantly so ty!!!

[@ianfrasergolf]

Thank you Kevin!! 👍🏻

[@swisstrader]

Tried this today and it’s definitely a game changer. I was always a decent ball striker but this literally adds 10-15 to my irons. Big issue for me is getting the follow through right, meaning i tend to hook the ball if I don’t follow through w hands high. Any thoughts on how to fix this? Also, are you guys suggesting you keep the wrist down THROUGHOUT the swing or just when you start the downswing? This is GOLD!!

[@Jameeli]

Ok Ian and Matty - officially not buying new irons till i can fly in and get a fit from you guys - the content is more like applied science! Any early subscriber discount :)

[@timbozarth6573]

This series where you guys are playing opposite handed than your normal is great. The tip where you show how to roll the knuckles under made an instant improvement in my ballstriking. I have struggled my whole golfing life with an open face and this fixed it in minutes. THANK YOU! while I am not hitting Draws, I am hitting it dead straight now. Please continue this series with working the ball, Hi, Lo, left & Right. Love your show.

[@Jaywil765]

OMG i just tried this last night {closing club face on takeaway} at the driving range yesterday and it had unbelievable results . My ball speed went from 145 to 160mph i was carrying the ball about 220 before and a slice. I hit one last night 280 carry 🤷‍♂️👍👍👍😊😊, i would advise everybody that has a slice to give it a go. Not all my shots were great but i just kept at it SUPER video

[@Contosoldier]

How To: Fix a Duck Hook, specifically with lower lofted irons, and woods.

[@kroceee]

My coach told me to place your left-hand middle finger knuckle just out of your view, so you see your index finger knuckle. It will help the ball go straighter.

[@implicitzen1262]

awesome vid guys. My golf coach is great, but he is a firm believer of grip is the easiest solution to a slice and it just hasn't completely solved my problem. I'm looking forward to trying this out at the range and seeing what results I can get.

[@markkalinowski2180]

When the channel first started, wasn't Matt playing right-handed? When / why did he switch to left-handed play?

[@ianfrasergolf]

😂😂, who knows at this point!!

[@joedoaks6517]

Excellent video, gentlemen. This is the very thing I have been working on for the past 2 months. Thank you.

[@kevinbooth8194]

Great content guys I play with a strong grip and hit it straight or a pull draw and loosing distance I'm going to try this at the driving range this arvo

[@ar_x7]

I used to hit a hook but as of recently I've been hitting a push shank. Great time for this video to come out

[@myleshancock9164]

Gents, I think you may have solved my timing problem. I've been flipping the wrists all the way in the backswing. I like to hit a draw but when my timing's off its a push. Will try this on the range tomorrow. Much thanks! 🙏🙏🙏

[@TheBradleyp63]

Phil Mickelson needs to watch this video

[@ginomorena5875]

Very nice fellas!!! I started learning the how to bow my left wrist about 10 months ago and my game has improved greatly. It really does make it simple. Once you bow at the top then it’s all hips through the ball. I do appreciate the tip on bowing your wrist as your take away. It can be difficult timing wise to do that at the top of your backswing.

[@darylwizzard]

Are both you guys switch hitters.? Or is it the camera.

[@randallsiedschlag1036]

looking forward to trying this. just got tour van fitted to the 0211s from PXG and hoping to learn some shot shaping in my scoring irons. Thanks for the tips! I have been working on my swing plane with the Planemate and think this wrist work will finally put me over the top!

[@DaNnYElLoCO23]

Thanks so much for this! I have hit my irons really well (even 3-wood) but I struggle keeping driver strikes straight or hitting a draw even while using a very strong grip. Usually end up way right (on the other fairway) or hugging the right rough/fairway. Going to try this little adjustment. Cheers!

[@mujarice]

Really cool. Ian helped me tremendously at the TXG Sessions in Orlando with the same thing. Really cupping my wrist with the driver. Changed how I thought about the swing. Thanks buddy!

[@ianfrasergolf]

Great to hear Matthew!! 👍🏻

[@ryanknight8186]

Matthew are you doing the same turning of your knuckles under on your backswing with your driver?

[@mujarice]

@@ryanknight8186 initially. overcompensate and make the change. It's mellowed to a neutral position now

[@randynaylor27]

Such a different takeaway than what I’ve always tried to get. But looks like a swing change worth making! And thanks for the link to Andrew Rice. Now I just have to put all this good info into practice so I can make it second nature for use when I play!

[@mofojohnson1]

I play better with my wrists slightly cupped at the top as I can then get my hands ahead at impact and slightly bowed. I play much better this way. I tried to bow my wrists at the top for the last few years and it's hard to keep that position

[@Proof2k21]

Incredible vid guys. Breaking old habits to create positive results👍🏻

[@Boss302ATC]

I took a tip from the Donovan video, I am too open on the take away too, I find that works better than major grip changes. Thanks boys!

[@TC-ps9sd]

I can’t thank Ian enough for this tip. After over 30 years of rolling my hands over in my backswing, I’m now hitting my irons so much more solid, and my drives go lower with more punch. I’m pretty excited to hit the ball so much better.

[@kevinwiessner2951]

Nice! Exactly the thing/feeling I’ve been working on this year. Always been a cutter of the golf ball and this is my key to more solid ball striking. Great to see and add to the channel.

[@MurphyGreg]

All I can say is...wow. How is it possible that your content gets better when it is already world class. Love it

[@virgilmaralit7817]

This was a really nice video, love how you included us in the process and the camera angles plus seeing the shots that aren’t perfect. Thanks!

[@tesla7s592]

Wow! That is what I want to see. please showing us how to hit a power fade. Thank you!!

[@geoffreypleavin5268]

Does this apply to the drivers, hybrids, and fairway woods? Geoff

[@TheSinistercr0c]

Absolutely THE best video you guys have done in terms of knowledge around manipulating the club face to change the flight and shape of shot. Me and my mate have pieced together this view of using wrist angles correctly from several online sources but this video puts it across perfectly and reinforces our belief that we're getting a better more consistent swing and thus strike. Thankyou for a very informative video.

[@ianfrasergolf]

👍🏻

[@ewatkins6579]

Wow! I had given up on golf several years ago because i just didn't enjoy going out and STRUGGLING to break 100. Now, my 7 y/o son is golf-obsessed, so I've been creeping back into it. I love your gear and fitting videos and thought I would take a look at this one too as my miss has always been right, and I've never been able to draw the ball. I took this to the range this afternoon, and the difference was unbelieveable from basically the very first shot. I'm not turning pro any time soon, but at 42, I can honestly say that was probably the best and most consistent I've struck the golf ball in my life. It didn't cure every swing, but it definitely made a HUGE difference, and it was pretty cool to hear my son saying, "Oh my God, Dad. You hit that one so far!" You guys (and Andrew) pretty much made my day! This is something I'll definitely keep working on!

[@dukejet6997]

Wrist cup and TOO much grip strength has completely stuffed the tendons in my forearms. Playing injured ATM. Learning this move now with ZERO grip, wrist,elbow and shoulder tension .. Getting better

[@sethlyon2841]

This is literally what I am working on at the moment.....now time to try it left handed

This is similar to a self discovery that I made after my playing partners exploded on me on how open my face was though I had strengthen my grip. One difference (vs your instructions is that on my initial takeaway I have to take my hands straight back prior my wrist hinge (just after shaft parrallell to ground). This has allowed me to get the ball going straight (vs straight-slice or push-slice). For a draw, I simply move ball back a half-ball (and ensure my swing is inside-out, or simply closing my stance). I can't seem to draw with my driver though.

[@fretless05]

I'm another 50+ year old trying to unlearn bad habits. I wonder if I'm doing the right thing: I try not to have any swing thoughts about my hands on the backswing- I try to keep my takeaway controlled by my shoulders turning my arms and then let the weight/momentum of the club head hinge my wrists. It seems to fix my typical miss- high push/fade. Does that sound like I'm on the right path or am I creating different bad habits?

[@claytonentrekin6688]

What would you guys recommend if I know that my clubface is too open in the takeaway and my wrist is bent the wrong way at the top of the backswing, but my irons go straight? However, that same swing creates a big ugly slice with the woods.

[@clubchampionmedia]

easier to get away with that move in the irons, very difficult with the woods

[@whiskerrub3821]

Nope couldn’t do it ... flipped my phone 360 counter clockwise to left and then 360 degrees to the right and still couldn’t get these boys back on there respective side of ball. Alright I will give this a go if I draw the ball, I will give both a 🤗, however it may take some time to get over peering fondly into the trees and out bounds on left as I walk by my first ball. 👍

[@albinobluesheep]

The idea of "organize the club face early on" (6:50) is exactly what my instructor had my change in my last lesson! Worked like a charm! I was a habitual slicer, then he adjusted my take way so I could go more in-side-out on my follow through, but after a while (a few months) my miss turned into a duck-hook or a push fade. He said I was manipulating the club face WAY too much, and organizing the club-face and setting it during my back swing, instead of trying to "flip" it at the right time drastically improved my consistency.

[@kylewilson9457]

I’ve recently started struggling with my longer irons. 4, 5, and 6 don’t have the gap they used to. No injuries I think. Launch is good. Not sure on ball speed. Just out of the blue and don’t fully notice it on the course, but the range tracer is saying otherwise.

[@danbender8245]

Hey guys I would love to see you test CALEY irons