2020 MASTERPIECE BUYING GUIDE: AUTOBOTS

[@leyenda6149]

This channel is so entertaining & well done. You can always hear the joy in his voice talking about a subject he loves

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Really appreciate it! Yes it sure is fun to make these videos!

[@datamag2018]

Excellent info on this one, confirmed some of my hunches and fears and also validated some of previous purchases. Thanks for making this!

[@savomilosevic96]

Another great video. Brilliant choices and can't wait for your Decepticon picks

[@angelhernandez-th5gl]

Great content. Looking forward to your Decepticon buyers guide. Any recommendations on Pipes, Outback and Omega Supreme? Also any releases of Hubcap?

[@brianpavlina8638]

Spectacular video Mike! I’ll be referring back to this video as I add to my collection. I can’t wait for the Decepticons.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad it is helpful! Thanks

[@BubblegumCrash332]

Damn that Prowl masterpiece is glorious. one day in my golden years I'll eventually buy one

[@joeldavidchevallier]

As always, much appreciated compilation. I’d have loved to had something similar when I waded into the waters around 2016/2017. The forums are great, but can be a bit byzantine to navigate, if not just intimidating to a new/novice collector. The community of TF creators on KZbin are doing the Lord’s Work as my mother would say, as far as I’m concerned. Be it reviews, transformation tutorials, histories of the lines, lore…you guys hold it down pretty damn well, and I look forward to your videos and they have helped shape my collection it’s absolutely safe to say. I’d love to see a video on the engineering. What toys are your favorite to transform? Which ones use clever or novel transformation schemes? There doesn’t seem to be many videos about that, if any. The journey from mode to mode is a huge part of a toy’s appeal, and a video on the evolution of how that’s accomplished and what makes a transformation delightful or painful would be something I’d def. spend some time watching. Anyhow….thanks again brother!

[@TheShadowKarl]

I liked your recommendation on Bad Cube's Red Alert. I think variation on these characters especially when they're really well done by a third party is a great choice. It also is more fun if you occasionally transform them to have the steps be completely unique. I like MMC's Arcee the best.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I do look forward to evaluating that MMC Arcee myself. She looks to be a very solid figure. Thanks

[@brianpavlina8638]

What’s your opinion on Omega Supreme versions out there? Hasbro, DX9 or Fanstoys? Thanks again Mike! Your the best TF resource out there.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I like the DX9 Omega for price and aesthetic! Fanstoys looks good also but something about the DX9 wins it for me. Thanks

[@android131c]

you’re right about the first MP Smokescreen head sculpt. it’s much better than the +Toon version

[@bontigaoa]

Im really hoping for gigapower to release a color variation where the dinobots are in "toon colors" i've seen some customs on tfw2005, and it looks great with the matte yellow and grey colors. What are your thoughts on this?

[@Bigdaddyweese]

Love always listening to your videos. Always so informative. Keep up the good work.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed and Decepts on the way! Thanks

[@seanclapper9965]

I totally understand people wanting toon accuracy, but isn't the only difference just less paint and detail on the pluses? Maybe a different color window? For my personal collection I like the older versions WITH reprolabels for even more color and detail. I just feel like if it didn't add to time and cost of animating that the animaters would have added much more color and detail. But they were under time and budget restraints to get it done so the characters are very plain. This is just my personal opinion obviously, to each his own.😉

[@holden_7597]

Yeah, I think the base MP-20 is way better than MP-20+, it just looks so much better.

[@Asonox-Olusus]

Good job! Third party companies and Takara have the slogan: TILL ALL ARE PERFECT.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes they will one up themselves until they reach that goal! Thanks

[@nickli6615]

Great job on this video! Very informative 👏

[@professord8888]

3mins: I definitely agree that mixing molds is the way to go for any characters that were recolors in g1. Grapple/Inferno etc.

[@espinasse1984]

Come on Mike the MMC Inferno/Hoist have the crane hanging off the back of them. The Takara might be more expensive, but the transformation to get that in their chest makes a a better looking figure 😊

[@toomanylies7716]

I think he split them because, as he said, he likes to have 2 different molds of the twin figures. I agree with you tho.

[@espinasse1984]

Too Many Lies yeah I get that, but I couldn’t look past the Takara. That being said, I’ve done exactly the same on the Sideswipe and gone with the Takara + and the badcube red alert.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes there are good points about both Takara and MMC but I do like the Aesthetic break up on the shelf. I also like the hips on MMC more than Takara even though Takara is more Toon accurate there is some personal preference there. Great point! Thanks

[@joshuaknappenberger5842]

Waitin' for that MP 44 KO--pre-ordered and paid for on ShowZ...

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That figure looks promising! Thanks

[@GreenHad0ken]

Snap, cancelled my TE01 for the ko MP44. I hope it doesn't disappoint!

[@slyrax4154]

Just one suggestion: the Sideswipe G1 character model had a very small chest and more heroic proportions. Red Alert's character model had a larger chest and more toy proportions. I feel like the closer match is to go BadCube Sideswipe and Takara Red Alert. If you go that way you end up with something closer to this: tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Character_models.png No wrong answers, but that is the reason I went that way.

[@ultrajazz5335]

I have MMC Trailbreaker, Maketoys Jazz, not buying toon version of anyone unless I don’t have a figure. TFE Prime. Great video.

[@andremcleggan3937]

the best non arcee is flame toys nicee i like my fembots actually with female form and both modes are beautiful that is hard to pull off and they deserve more recognition and less talk about the sexualization.

[@ArionRDAW]

I believe the Takara Inferno has an accessory to princess-carry Red Alert, so that's a consideration.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That is interesting info I must look into! Thanks

[@GibDozer1]

TW Bii will always be my G1 Bumblebee. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with MMC Arcee, but she might be a little small for your taste. Great list!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes Toyworld bee does look good and I am looking forward to the MMC Arcee. Fun times ahead! Thanks

[@randylajara6542]

MMC is supposed to be doing an "All-Built in" Defensor (same as their Bruticus)

[@andreyofdoom]

Bad Cube side swipe has a lot of changes from red alert though and the key is his more slimmed chest through transformation, accurate legs, arms, and opening doors, hood and headlights like sun streaker.

[@35TheDarkknight]

I got some gigapower dinobots i love those things.. blown away

[@jmautobot]

I really like this video but for some reason a few times words just cut off and it moves to something else. Is there an issue with the video?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I tried to cut out as much as I could to make it a bit shorter and it was not a perfect As I wanted it but after 6 hours I just let it ride. The Decepticon one will be shorter and easier to edit. Thanks

[@flyrrow]

very nice list! thank you for taking the effort of reviewing all of them! I only wished Fanstoys weren't so expenssive and worst of all so hard to get! I feel like the Fanstoys community is filled with hoarders lol srsly I've seen at forums they camp the preorders and they buy like (at least) 3 each! makes FT's really hard to get for the average collector.

[@andreyofdoom]

Plus Smokescreen has way more pleasing colors and looks cleaner overall.

[@corbettgettman1032]

The + version of Smokescreen is hands down my favorite +. Better paint as well as face sculpt. Needs to be seen in hand I think

[@andreyofdoom]

Something about the shades of red, blue, light grey they used on the+ go so well together while on the original they all clash like a huge mess even before adding the logos that make it look more like a mess. Mp19 was a good toy accurate MP but the plus is perfect!!

[@m1v111]

Good video, I really appreciate that you don't bad mouth the Takara KO's . I'm pwt and buy a lot of the Takara KO and wish a rodiumus prime takara KO would come out. in your video you mentioned a hound KO where can I get that or pre-order

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Hound KO is up for preorder from ShowZ right now. Thanks

[@monte_2000]

Best place to find Gigapower Dinobots?

[@leonleon3267]

I dunno i think a lot of people are pinning there hopes on ko mp44 a little bit too much, yes some issues will be allegedly fixed thats not to say this figure wont have issues own set of issues, maybe issues that are much worse, after all it is a KO and lets be honest will the guys koing this thing really care about those issues or will they be looking to make a fast buck, i feel it's more the later because after all it is a KO, i think it's best to wait and see the quality before picking your prime i mean after all one ko that stands out having wildy different results was sunstreaker

[@holden_7597]

There have been multiple KOs for a majority of MPs, and a lot of them have been better or at least on the same par. We should still be cautious, but I think there’s evidence to support the KO being good.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Well if MP36 is any indicator of MP44 KOs this first one out of the gate will be OK and there will be many more from THF, IT, Magten and others to all try to one up each other. SOOO if this one is a dud there may be more. Thanks

[@gw9241]

Great video - a couple of potential deals out there. For Power Glide, there's a good KO, made by Age of Deformation (A.O.D), currently going for between £55 - £60, compared to £90 for DX9 Richthofen. I managed to luck out last year and get teh A.O.D version for £15. For Grapple and Inferno, you have the MMC versions, very stylised, but look good on the shelf, and last year they were both going for £40. Also for Monsterbots, you have fantastic options from Fans Hobby.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I have been toying with the Fanshobby Monsterbots ever since I found out about them. They look sooo Big and I like BIG! Thanks

[@gw9241]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 so far I've been impressed. I've got their Flypro (their take on Grotuqsue). Great materials, sculpt and articulation isn't too bad for a big bot. They do have a stylised look, (maybe more of an IDW aesthetic), but I feel the Monsterbots lend themselves to a stylised look, kinda like the Predacons.

[@tonysteeleebw01]

What, no Omega Supreme?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes he was on the list and somehow left out. DX9 and Fanstoys are both great options. The others are more fun but do not look as good. Thanks

[@myfoodishere]

very well put together guide. i'm out here in china. most of the x-transbots and fanstoys stuff are sold out unfortunately.thank god for final victory or i would never have a brawn or huffer. the only guy i dont havein my collection is trailbreaker.

[@ninjahandz1168]

You forgot Vodoo Robots. Their Ratchet and Ironhide BLOW the official ones apart! No stupid slides, giant diapers or or weird bowed legs.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

You guys are really tempting me to get those Voodoo figures! Thanks

[@suprasport9118]

That Mp-44 is like $499.99, 😳. Wow! Jazz is that far out? Yeah, So true. I rather just get the KO'S for alot of those officials even though I got the Official Takara mp-45 and Mp-47. Lol 😆 you don't have an agenda!. As always great video Mike!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes the price of MP44 was crazy but there were many ways to get him cheaper. I love KOs because I like having more than one for a good price. Thanks

[@professord8888]

Xtb is best for Trailbreaker and Hoist, but the Hoist is the outstanding one. If you wanted these guys from different companies, the second best Trailbreaker (I would say they are almost a tie) is Badcube. Mmc is a distant third.

[@brawn7323]

do you think you can use the takara mp red bumblebee as a stand in for cliffjumper?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes that one could work also. Thanks

[@열가지-r2l]

Cool~ These robots are meant to be excellent.

[@Baliken100]

what do you mean by plus?

[@arronis]

Don't be afraid to pull the pin out of Toro, I did and you can still transform him and put the backpack back on car mode (much like the Earthrise Cliff) and he looks way better!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I may have to try it one day! Thanks for the info

[@horaceblige8544]

If they only looked like their cartoon version in 84 85 86 87 when I was a kid today toys are definitely better looking not like my childhood years

[@bobby101a]

Gigapower blows Fanstoys out the water. Gigapower has three version. Toy/toon/ and x with the weathering. I have all the Gigapowers plus Fanstoys swoop has that breakage problem.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes I was Surprised about the Gigapower quality and SUPER BLING. I do like shiny things. Thanks

[@bobby101a]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yes.... I love the bling as well LOL. I think that would be a good discussion how big were the Dinobots lol? AOE they were truly Dinosaurs . G1 they seem to grow depending episodes .

[@Dokken1975]

Fanstoys Jazz is closer than we think, the box art guy was already told to get working on it to submit.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That is exciting news! I do look forward to all Fanstoys releases and the comparisons to what is out there now! Thanks

[@sunwentai1]

I didn't know some KOs were of a better quality than the originals. I always imagined that they would be cheaper copies, both in price and quality. I might start looking at some of those...

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

These days KO companies make improvements to draw interest and sell their figures. The KO runs are just massive compared to official and that is how I think they keep the price low! Thanks

[@sidearmsalpha]

I remember seeing Generations Metroplex at Costco for less than $100. I passed on it then. Still haven't got one and it's going for way too much now. I'm hoping TakaraTomy will reissue it someday or someone else will make an MP version. I got Utopia but it's a shame he's not bigger and that no one made an upscaled version.

[@Transfixed]

One that you missed is MakeToys Quantron for Computron. Otherwise great, i agree with most of your choices.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

How big is the maketoys one?

[@Transfixed]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 11" Oh not big enough for MP scale you think?

[@ultrajazz5335]

The thing with these companies is if you don’t buy the first or second release then you will end up paying more in the long run.

[@walkers198]

6.10 Tracks. Had it and immediately sold it without touching it. They make a plus version of this or something better it’ll be worth the wait. I would never buy that ‘as is’ again.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes I can see that if you did not like Tracks but the KO made some improvements and I use him in the back of my display. Thanks

[@donovanjd3]

Have the Voodoo Robots Ironhide and Ratchet. both replaced the Takara/Hasbro. now the official are in car mode. Utopia is a good metroplex. its beautiful, but small.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I might have to get those. How tall are they compared to Takara? Thanks for the info

[@donovanjd3]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 slightly shorter. the ironhide is the better of the two fugues, in my opinion. mine has a nice mid range leg spread. the ratchet has straight legs. the next click is a very wide V .a few online vids mention it. I did take a few pics ..if there is a way to send them. also to anyone interested in the Voodoo Ratchet. there is a guy on Kijiji ( a Canadian craigslist type site ) who is selling a ratchet. I bought mine off him. a really good price. he was also a good seller

[@Baliken100]

I BOUGHT THE KO MP 44 AND IT BROKE ON MY THIRD TRANSFORMATION! snapped right in half at the waist.

[@clchoudhary7948]

Lol

[@Envisaged0ne]

I'm ashamed to admit that I was one of the few that bought MP-44 Optimus at the $450.00 price *sigh* I bought it from TheChosenPrime cause they're in the same state I am and I was able to get it delivered the next day with free delivery

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Well there is something to say about being the first to get a new figure. I have only had that opportunity a few times myself. Still a great figure in my mind! Thanks

[@halite_g]

10:42 Why, it MUST be the Mechaform Sky guardian, of course!

[@jmautobot]

Another excellent video Mike. There are many knock-off Wheeljack Masterpiece out there. I went to go buy an official one on eBay just a couple months ago. I purchased it. It came from China. And it's a knockoff. It was not advertised as one. And I did not know that it was. I had to go through eBay support to get my money back. I think it's a disgrace when people sell knockoffs and do not tell people they are knockoffs. I have to admit it's a great copy, but I'm not looking for that. The Takara Tomy box and everything were ripped off and copied.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes the early Wheeljack and Sideswipes were perfect 1 to 1 copies and I can not even tell the difference. That era of KO brought on the Takasa Tony mark on the boxes to differentiate but there is still lots of old stock out there. Thanks for sharing

[@brian8677]

Gigapower hands down, all day long, bigger, better made, better joints, painted, totally worth the money, I’ll had the fans toys and each of them with the exception of Grimlock was a floppy fucking mess, metal tarnished. No question, if you’re in the market for Dinobots, Gigapower superior, Fanstoys inferior.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I have been slowly moving to Gigapower but Swoop sold me on the set for sure! Thanks

[@8474Starscream]

I like MMC Mirage but I don't love it....alt mode is really nice bot mode much to be desired. Cant await for Fans Toys and will give the other a try

[@CyborgNS6NL]

Well done!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks

[@seannoone2474]

i did somthing abit unique with my ratchet and ironhide i got an tfc ironwill due to it looking more buff whereas i got ratchet due to the face looking softer

[@IronAvenger2k05]

Does anyone have a list of just season one Autobots so I don’t miss any while collecting

[@TransformsIntoAGuitar]

This is the first time I've heard someone say that MMC Hoist/Trailbreaker feels cheap. I hated that figure and ebayed it almost immediately after opening it.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes it looks good but feels so bad! Thanks

[@TransformsIntoAGuitar]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yeah, I really like the way they made the torso taper to the hips. But not only does it feel bad, you have to take the nozzle off the wrist to transform it and it was really fiddly to remove!

[@demonbeast86]

Really I need mp44 I hope it is cheap. it is expensive for my to buy from latin america XD inferno and graple I have the make toys versions i love the g1 toy style ( like the mp10 whit lot molding details) not the animation model, magnus I have the KFC díaclone colors, whit mp09 rodimus looks great. I want to see the desepticons guide great video

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed! Yes Mp10 has some great points and KFC Magnus mold looks great. Decepticon vid on the way! Thanks

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Let them buy what they want if they got the money. Let them regret later when a better one comes, if any.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Well I feel this day in age newcomers to the hobby could use some guidance and info on what all is out there. I tried to approach this list as a starter guide also. Thanks

[@MagnusLootCrate]

I paid $500 for MP-44. And don't sweat "pushing the KOs" man. I understand that you're letting people know what the options are. 😋

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

This day in age there are so many options new collectors benefit from the info but I know there are the KO haters out there. Thanks

[@MagnusLootCrate]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 Well, pretty soon KOs may be the only option.

[@staylobois8801]

I’d buy trailbreaker but he’s sold out😐

[@eyescovered]

nice list

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks

[@yautjaxenomorph9472]

Wat a bout Blitzwing and Astrotrain? Cant wait for my Thomas. Already hav Geqalt

[@brianpavlina8638]

This video was just for Autobots. I bet a Decepticon video is on its way soon.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I will do Decepticons in another video because this one was already so long and had to cut it way back. Thanks

[@DragoonMS]

I don't think any of the plus variants were KO'd. I recently got the MP17 Prowl KO, and I like it. It's almost as cool as my Infinite Transformation Megatron KO. I'll definitely hunt down Bluestreak & Smokescreen; would've preferred the MP18+ for Bluestreak, but the KO will do. And the KO will definitely suffice for Smokescreen. I don't see how anyone could like the face of the MP19+ version, it looks like a crackhead. Them Datsuns are like Seekers...you get one, you gotta hope you can get the rest. No love for the Maketoys Inferno & Grapple!? 😆🤣 Meanwhile, I came across one eBay seller who had both the Inferno & Grapple KOs...I wanna ask the seller how I can get both, because the way it's set up, you can pick one or the other. Citybots...again, no love for Maketoys!? Their Metroplex, "Utopia", got a repaint as "Dystopia" aka Metrotitan. And their Scorponok (and Black Zarak repaint) is pretty nice, too. They're both pricey at about $300 a pop, but that's still likely cheaper than whatever FansToys will do. (And the city mode of their Metroplex takes a huge dump all over Hasbro's) Hot Rod...I'm good with my MP40 Targetmaster Hot Rod. As for Rodimus, I'm glad you like the Hasbro version. Me personally, I couldn't get into the awkward colors they used...especially *blue* headlights that should be _orange_!! I held off on the old Classics one until the Reveal the Shield "Battle in Space" came out for the exact same reason. Besides, I really want the gorgeous MP09B Black Rodimus Convoy. It's a color scheme more in line with Black Convoy/Nemesis Prime/RiD01 Scourge (black & teal)...not that Hasbro's Shattered Glass Hot Rod/Rodimus Unicronus color scheme is bad (black & purple), but the black and teal just speaks to me way more.

[@DemonicsInc]

I think jobby is the only one to pay full price

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

LOL he pays the full price and lets us all know about it for sure! Thanks

[@bpo1975]

The MMC cassettes will look fantastic but my reservation remains that they're too big. If they're going to be the same scale as the Decepticon cassettes, then Eject and Rewind are going to be taller than Wheelie (Xtransbots Ollie) and as tall as Bumblebee. In other words, too tall.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes that was my hang up on the MMC tapes at first but in hand they seem to work. The show actually depicts Rumble about the same size as humans but scale was not the strong point of G1. Great point! Thanks

[@professord8888]

2mins in, seeing the side by side Wheeljacks really drives the point home for me that I hate the mp turn away from real-world aesthetics. The plus version looks like trash to me, glad I never let the hype suck me into buying any of them.

[@masternash7675]

regarding mp44. i to dont know anyone who payed full price. i got mine for $100 :\

[@BeeWallace]

Wow no omega supreme😢

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes I had pics and notes and somehow left him out. DX9 is my fav! Thanks

[@bradkrekelberg8624]

You should sell me your original release Aegis.

[@TechWizard28]

Wait 5-10 years

[@clmstudios3364]

I'd take te01 for optimus prime.

[@GhostRider-870]

Happy Friday!! Oh yea and FIRST!!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Happy Friday to you also! Thanks

[@thugg4lif]

Most of these 3rd party you can’t get anymore 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@deszaras3]

I just dislike the way he transforms - not my Prime :)

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yep it is different for sure! Thanks

[@SoDoesTobi]

People are better off getting op leader

[@mcdonie1975]

Sooo many bad KO sellers on ebay right now..

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes it is like a roll of the dice! I made an Ebay Redflag video and have not had any issues once I started using those RED Flag techniques. Thanks

[@DanielGreen07]

Too many ads

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes KZbin does those automatically. I have noticed a massive increase in the frequency of ads on all youtubers I watch also. Sorry and Thanks

[@DanielGreen07]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 no problemo still watched it till the end, good video 👍

[@edwinyi7064]

Stop supporting KO because you're cheap... Counterfeit products are illegal.