Typography Critique Week 1 - One Weight, One Pt. Size - Designing with Limitations

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(Episode 1 of 7) Typography crit. Learn type with us as we review user-submitted work from our class and go over the fundamentals of good typography.
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Have you ever been stuck while designing something and wanted professional feedback on your work? We understand that the design process could be tough when you don't have guidance through the process. If you want to learn why basic typography skills matter, this critique is for you.
We asked the students from our Typography 01 class to submit their assignments to receive critiques. Week 01: One pt. size, one weight. We review the concept of "Breaking down and learning how to see". Typography could just be blocks of text. We'll talk about how to group sections based on importance and hierarchy.
02:00 - The top 5 elements of good typography
5:30 - 1st Critique
8:00 - Does increasing the space make it more interesting and dynamic contrast?
10:00 - Group things by aligning them to an axis/how to make a focal point/order
13:20 - Pushing the letters off the edges
13:50 - What are rivers in typography
16:00 - Figure out what’s important
20:00 - 3rd critique - Imagine it’s the layout of a room/a floor plan. Don’t push everything to the edge
24:20 - 4th Critique - break things up into groups
28:00 - Explore different sizes and weights, but only one size and weight per layout
29:30 - The default font and point size is the worst. The difference changing the point size can make
33:00 - Make some ugly layouts to discover more
37:00 - Pushing things to the edge
39:00 - The 1/3 rule
39:40 - How to critique your own layout
45:00 - What are grids? What are they used for in typography?
47:00 - Upper lowercase is easier to read
51:00 - if the primary goal of a piece is to communicate in a logical manner, then should the focal point usually be the (in this case) RZN8? Since that's typically what we want people to ID first
55:30 - How to create separation between two groups that are in all caps
59:00 - Grids - Fibonacci sequence ***
1:10:50 - Double spacing
1:14:00 - Be really aligned or really offset
1:18:00 - How you should view the design as a floor plan***
1:20:30 - How grouping creates the better relationship
1:37:00 - Recap
1:39:00 - Architecture plug in from Hot Door CAD Tools
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@junyuchen9578
@junyuchen9578 4 жыл бұрын
"If you can design one thing, you could design everything." That really open up my mind!
@bharat5194
@bharat5194 4 жыл бұрын
Massimo Vignelli (RIP) said that
@purple-flowers
@purple-flowers 4 жыл бұрын
10:00 I highly suggest for anyone who hasn't been exposed to the Gestalt Principles of perceptual organization to learn more about it. They are used in design all over the place, and especially in typography and UI design.
@corgikun2579
@corgikun2579 4 жыл бұрын
35:28 when you get caught using illegal fonts in public and you can only laugh it off
@beanerama9
@beanerama9 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god lmao
@ShouriGun
@ShouriGun 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@emanuelegirlanda2000
@emanuelegirlanda2000 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda confused. What's illegal about it?
@EriksFriberg
@EriksFriberg 4 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelegirlanda2000 She hadn't paid for it. e.g. it was a pirated copy, and she even offered to share the link to the copy 😅
@emanuelegirlanda2000
@emanuelegirlanda2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@EriksFriberg thanks! I was confused because I thought helvetica was one of those free open source fonts but boy was I wrong lol
@brockman562
@brockman562 4 жыл бұрын
I Disagree with 1:24:27 that original layout is better than when Chris started moving things around.
@LudmilaT.
@LudmilaT. 4 жыл бұрын
YES! The original was so much better
@MetroversalDesign
@MetroversalDesign 4 жыл бұрын
This was SO freaking interesting! Thanks for making this quarantine period more bearable ❤
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear Alex.
@truckertim2938
@truckertim2938 4 жыл бұрын
As a Trucker life continues the same for me. Diving into your video. Hmm, Pick one thing will be challenging for me but I am up for it.
@jayshreesridhar5068
@jayshreesridhar5068 4 жыл бұрын
There is a limit to the brain explosions I can handle per episode, Chris! This episode caused far too many!
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@Dobetterlivebetter
@Dobetterlivebetter 3 жыл бұрын
Hey are you a Designer?
@jayshreesridhar5068
@jayshreesridhar5068 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dobetterlivebetter Hi, yes I am.
@xantisant
@xantisant 4 жыл бұрын
very awesome - even for people who already have a good grasp on the fundamentals, there are so many interesting ideas that come out of seeing someone else's thought process on fixing/finessing layouts and content relationships etc.
@samueljacobs9679
@samueljacobs9679 4 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this in university, I think it’s called Typescape. Also try doing this landscape, I feel it’s more difficult. Great job as usual Chris and futur team
@TheElectrizantee
@TheElectrizantee 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, i learned a lot in one and a half hour!
@ninghua5312
@ninghua5312 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! Always appreciate your generous sharing of knowledge !
@truckertim2938
@truckertim2938 4 жыл бұрын
Life begins beyond the defaults. Got it I see the light :)
@thefutur
@thefutur 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the default settings were 8 pt. and light vs. regular.
@miqdamsajid875
@miqdamsajid875 4 жыл бұрын
That was a witty approach right there using dashes _ _ _ _ _ _ Nice
@narivari1234
@narivari1234 4 жыл бұрын
Cool! I was going to research about typography and found this fresh video all by chance. What a nice coincidence :)))
@JasonShinks
@JasonShinks 3 жыл бұрын
Even as an experienced designer its useful to be reminded of the basic principles again. Great video 👍
@user-cy3kn7zx1l
@user-cy3kn7zx1l 4 жыл бұрын
Everything I learn from design has been through critiques like these. This reminds me of those days when Emily and Molly was still there
@mbne
@mbne 4 жыл бұрын
i'm a little late here, just wonder where are they??
@Kiriri92
@Kiriri92 4 жыл бұрын
35:29 I’ll send you the link LOL
@diegogamba7825
@diegogamba7825 4 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much these lessons have helped me in recent times. From the bottom of my heart, thank you!
@ThuNguyen-bh7ie
@ThuNguyen-bh7ie 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I've learned a lot from your Typo Critique video. I watched Week 2 first and instantly improved at work =))) Looking forward to these episodes since then
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear.
@AlexMcDaniels
@AlexMcDaniels 4 жыл бұрын
I learned so much Thanks Guys!
@tonygibbs6161
@tonygibbs6161 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the crit Chris, thank you!
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. See you next week.
@yeryer316
@yeryer316 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony
@francoismahr
@francoismahr 4 жыл бұрын
I really think drawing flour plans in Exel is a bit off, but doing it with illustrator looks pretty on purpose. Architect's point of view. Thank you Futur academy for this one, hearing critiques of designs is always a great source of precious knowledge. I love the metaphor of the page as a real space, I fully agree. And the reverse is true, we often use the word legibility to qualify space. From a french speaking person. Have a nice day everyone.
@svarfvar
@svarfvar 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting and well-taught!
@mauzzamkhan4369
@mauzzamkhan4369 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir for making this typography series . 👍
@Sim_Hutchins
@Sim_Hutchins 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is chill af in this episode. U ok hun?
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
haha. off day. I'll bring the fire next time.
@nana-km6is
@nana-km6is 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this video will be translated into Japanese…..
@kang9950
@kang9950 4 жыл бұрын
I love this tutorial so much and I would like to practice by myself at home, but I'm not sure the dimension of the artboard, would you be so kind to tell me?
@matthewalexanderpaudianto971
@matthewalexanderpaudianto971 4 жыл бұрын
Finally it's back
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
we back.
@YotamGuttman
@YotamGuttman 4 жыл бұрын
16:00 I agree that the uneven spacing spoiled the continuity and readability of the paragraph, but now the credits are completely cut off the composition, unlike before when just a tiny bit of them was.
@YotamGuttman
@YotamGuttman 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is rather a theoretical tip and not a conceptual one, just pointed out the issue...
@evililmunchkin4135
@evililmunchkin4135 4 жыл бұрын
That fibonacci grid is pure gold.
@turtlelearns3d
@turtlelearns3d Жыл бұрын
The concept of imagining it as an exhibit really hit home for me. Im learning so many things from this, thank you so much!
@sofianealloui
@sofianealloui 4 жыл бұрын
@jakepalmer5670
@jakepalmer5670 4 жыл бұрын
Based on what I've seen. I would not pay for this course
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
what are you seeing? I'm curious. I also invite you to come back week 7 to see what jumps happen and how much each person grows.
@LudmilaT.
@LudmilaT. 4 жыл бұрын
I understand you try to make a point... but most of the time what you end up with after playing with the designs, you end up with something far worse than the original submitted. I think that's why.
@wrdj3094
@wrdj3094 4 жыл бұрын
I see Chris with the TM-2's, I got some because of Matthew Encina.
@GioZilke
@GioZilke 4 жыл бұрын
got it! thanks
@Giwrgoss-rx2ve
@Giwrgoss-rx2ve 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't 8 pt type too small to read? Should we sacrifice legibility for a better design?
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
it's not. try it. print it out.
@LudmilaT.
@LudmilaT. 4 жыл бұрын
Do print it out. And give it to people. They will not appreciate all the negative space. They will ask why would you not make it easier to read when you have so much space to make the text larger.
@McPixelWizard
@McPixelWizard 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of just magazines, doesn't the masthead need to be "above the fold"? Above the fold means it will show or peak out when on a rack with other magazines in front of it, or on the top fold of a newspaper in a coin-operated newspaper dispenser. While we no longer purchase magazines in stands anymore or in brick and mortar bookstores, magazines are still sold that way. I would think you could only get away from having a magazine masthead after many years of readers getting used to it. I realize this is a typography class, so designing a magazine is just an exercise, so it doesn't matter in the same way as a real magazine.
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
you are correct.
@MinhNguyen-jt9ny
@MinhNguyen-jt9ny 4 жыл бұрын
this is tooo good to be free
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
and yet it is.
@ivancernuto
@ivancernuto 4 жыл бұрын
The Jan/Feb overlapping (1:14:40) was marvelous! Thank you Chris
@mauriciodavida8921
@mauriciodavida8921 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! Thanks for sharing your wisdom, sir!
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@martaryzhok698
@martaryzhok698 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, your "recommended products and Booklist" link doesn't work ;( Very curious to know what books you recommend to read.
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Looking into this.
@strahilprimedivision8718
@strahilprimedivision8718 4 жыл бұрын
Your voice calms me down while working. Great stuff!
@wr5023
@wr5023 3 жыл бұрын
sameeeeeee
@pedroserapio8075
@pedroserapio8075 4 жыл бұрын
37:22 It resembles a gun shooting an 8 bullet.
@dillonhayes9860
@dillonhayes9860 3 жыл бұрын
The difficult quiet compellingly stop because dietician reilly smoke within a colorful speedboat. mammoth, accessible forecast
@rghunt3221
@rghunt3221 3 жыл бұрын
Not a good answer to the question about justification at 19:07; it doesn't work well for relatively few characters per line, but for 70 or so characters per line and long text (like in in a book), it is easier to get a good justified setting than a good rag, if you pay attention to justification and hyphenation parameters. In this case, using a fixed space between the names (say Rosmarie Tissi would make more sense, and wouldn't leave people like Dorfsman off the page.
@artisticiinstitute9298
@artisticiinstitute9298 4 жыл бұрын
Great
@lxydzn
@lxydzn 11 күн бұрын
50:21
@ullaskunder
@ullaskunder 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an IT student learning software development but love typography and art.... really confused should I continue {art || programming.....}😁
@deosebastian2533
@deosebastian2533 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Chris! I'm sorry to asking this, I was wondering, what size that template artboard is? Because I want to try and practice along with watching this critique hahaha. Unfortunately I'm still at college and I don't have enough money to enroll the course so I guess this is the alternative to studying the critique :D Thank you!
@designaccount142
@designaccount142 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Do ❤️
@nkhansays
@nkhansays 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Hope you are doing great, I have little confusion about using text? either clock-wise or antilock-wise?
@souravnaskar5353
@souravnaskar5353 3 ай бұрын
1:13:31
@raresdobrescu2260
@raresdobrescu2260 3 жыл бұрын
Why do some people have a problem with ''justify right'' expression so Chris is always using an alternative ?
@sezergozutok9546
@sezergozutok9546 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@supershimo11
@supershimo11 Жыл бұрын
Go Mo!
@robinhill1991
@robinhill1991 3 жыл бұрын
Left justified should be called Flush Left. Justified means even on both sides.
@fakhrobomba3163
@fakhrobomba3163 2 жыл бұрын
when he did that overlaping thing of january/february i ran out of breath
@zohaibmalik819
@zohaibmalik819 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial.
@novirahmatika
@novirahmatika 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@adrianfels2985
@adrianfels2985 4 жыл бұрын
While watching this, I learn this: try, fail, learn. I try WAY too less. But it's all about trying. Just try. Move this there. Move that there. No matter if it looks perfect after one or two moves. It's all about trying and failing and learning from that. Thanks for taking your time to teach us!
@supreethls
@supreethls 2 жыл бұрын
this video introduced me to so many different concepts and methods thank you team futur
@alexpascu9639
@alexpascu9639 2 жыл бұрын
in this wide space will be a photo. Its good layout!
@archrao2103
@archrao2103 4 жыл бұрын
How can I participate in these assignments?
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Enroll in the course.
@brianfong5711
@brianfong5711 4 жыл бұрын
49:54 How Chris wants you to ask your questions. ALL the TIME. FOREVER FAST!
@devilingism
@devilingism 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I bought the course earlier, so I could join this live critique. AMAZING!
@ifeoluwamedeyinlo4585
@ifeoluwamedeyinlo4585 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, where can i get the copy used in these projects?
@Nhatlan93
@Nhatlan93 Жыл бұрын
I just streamed this end to end. I went to two design schools for my Bachelor and Master and none of them brought any value to my design skill as much as this video just did. The most helpful lecture on design I've been. Made me realise how junior on design I am. Also none of my lecturer so far was a real designer that've been working in the industry, so none of them have real-life experience like Chris. Thanks a lot. I wholeheartedly appreciate what you guys are doing - sharing lots of your decade-long of experience. Really enjoying your train of thought. I've learned a lot.
@Nhatlan93
@Nhatlan93 Жыл бұрын
One more question, can I get the critique if I enroll the course this week?
@mustaphanail2005
@mustaphanail2005 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any free Typefaces for commercial use !
@designwithmemunna
@designwithmemunna 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot sir! This is the best class for me.
@fredbrown6951
@fredbrown6951 4 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, this video is really good but at the same time super super disappointing! I feel like this video is worth more than the whole typography course that I have spent a lot of money on...
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
hey Fred. have you rewatched the entire course? we've recorded new content, critiques and even the self critique in greater detail.
@fredbrown6951
@fredbrown6951 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFuturAcademy Indeed, still very dissapointed
@aribetterlari
@aribetterlari 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll send you the link" HAHAHHAHAHA
@aquibkhan4918
@aquibkhan4918 4 жыл бұрын
How do i submit my work for critique?
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Enroll in the class.
@aquibkhan4918
@aquibkhan4918 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please provide me the link for enrollment.
@MyekalBenham
@MyekalBenham 4 жыл бұрын
Zoom is evil btw. Don't use it.
@xvanegas89
@xvanegas89 4 жыл бұрын
This is like iron chef for designers
@grace22267
@grace22267 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris! you are a great teacher :)
@msmit1999
@msmit1999 4 жыл бұрын
57:00 it really annoys me how ''Piet Zwart'' isn't in the other group of type
@mixikpixi6123
@mixikpixi6123 4 жыл бұрын
Its not a nouse, its a peepee
@peterbian
@peterbian 4 жыл бұрын
The cover of this video makes me so uncomfortable, someone please change it.
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Kiriri92
@Kiriri92 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😊
@msmit1999
@msmit1999 4 жыл бұрын
This video call and screenshare has been made possible by Zoom, it can also be found somewhere else on the internet just like every other Zoom video call because of our terrible security. Yours truly, Zoom's development team
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
?
@msmit1999
@msmit1999 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFuturAcademy just google 'Zoom' and you'll find its security flaws, its most likely even above the actual Zoom website
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
I’m aware of them.
@msmit1999
@msmit1999 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFuturAcademy but you guys still used it in yesterdays stream
@LudmilaT.
@LudmilaT. 4 жыл бұрын
They make the video public anyway 🤷‍♀️ It's not like they are discussing national security there.
@shravangubbi5670
@shravangubbi5670 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Do looks like a 'Do'll in the thumbnail 😁
@mashable8759
@mashable8759 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is the Jordan Peterson of Graphic design. ⭐
@solvm1652
@solvm1652 4 жыл бұрын
Meh. I didn’t get much from watching this. I think I need more context. So, is this a course for typography for art sake, usability sake or both? It felt more like typography for art’s sake and I didn’t find much practical usage in it. I can’t believe that students were supposed to make 10 versions of this. Why not just make one really good one instead? If students are making mistakes then the instruction isn’t clear enough to make accurate reproductions. I’m still lost on how to handle this text appropriately after watching this. Yes, I see what doesn’t work, but what is the best technique for getting it right every time. I certainly don’t want to make 10 designs for a client. I want to learn how to get it right the first time.
@francoismahr
@francoismahr 4 жыл бұрын
Well I would say if you don't learn how to fail, you will have difficulties to know how to make a good design that solve a particular problem, because IMO problem solving is a process you learn while processing it, including mistakes. How would you recognize a mistake if you don't make/see one? How would you know it doesn't work? Of course it's not the same for everyone, depending on how your brain/mind/hand/eyes work. And of course this is not the only way to learn type I guess. Anyway I hope I you understand what I mean. Cheers
@ashiebbyyx
@ashiebbyyx 4 жыл бұрын
He’s asking for 10 because it allows you to try a lot of different things, and provides an opportunity to learn as you find unique challenges within each design. Also to get some good practice in, which helps you improve. I don’t think Chris is saying make 10 designs for a client necessarily, this is a fun exercise for students to get better at typography, experiment and push boundaries. I found it immensely helpful. With a client, depending on their guidelines, you might not be able to set type so ‘artistically’, but the fundamentals you learn here apply whether you’re creating a bank brochure or an abstract art gallery exhibit poster.
@solvm1652
@solvm1652 4 жыл бұрын
​@@francoismahr - I hear you. I just didn't get the context for taking in the content. I wasn't trying to be rude. I know that there isn't ONE single way to handle type, but I thought there would be more on what makes type good, and it was more about what doesn't work. I see that the critique was great for those in the class. I just didn't get much from it. As such, I was left thinking, why put this up if it doesn't provide that much value or context to those outside of the class. Anyway. Much respect.
@francoismahr
@francoismahr 4 жыл бұрын
@@solvm1652 hello, I get your point, no problem, it's just that I keep on disagreeing with you, I don't think the video is about what doesn't work, it's also how it could work fixing things, and I think our host is trying to show ways of doing it. Anyway thanks for your answer. I don't think there is an absolute rule that makes good or bad design, there is even a book that argue comic sans can be used in a professional manner. To my point of view Type and furthermore Design is about problem solving. May be see you in the next Type video to argue some more 😂. Stay safe. Bye
@solvm1652
@solvm1652 4 жыл бұрын
@@francoismahr - much respect
@buttcheeksguy
@buttcheeksguy 4 жыл бұрын
do you guys have a discord for the channel? where does one upload work for critique? also these days are the perfect time for logo therapy :( please bring logo therapy back and make it more often
@TheFuturAcademy
@TheFuturAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
If you are enrolled in the course there is a link to submit your work.
@markcontreras3572
@markcontreras3572 4 жыл бұрын
Are you enrolled in the course? We also send emails to the students in the course and in the Typography student Slack group. Logo therapy will be back in April - stay tuned
@jasonjacobson155
@jasonjacobson155 4 жыл бұрын
@@markcontreras3572 I'm in the class, just started on the 31st. I managed to group together my top 3 layouts and would love to hear/see/read thoughts but I couldn't find any links to send it. I didn't really see any slack groups in the course materials.
@OeloDickAble
@OeloDickAble 4 жыл бұрын
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