Final Fantasy XIV Party Finder Drama - The 126 Million Gil Scammer | Xeno Reacts

[@MysentialDelfyre]

I remembered this person in PF. We thought it was a C41, but it was literally this person asking to get carried from start to finish.

[@kahome]

lol it takes a very special person do this shit

[@Aethereality]

tbh I saw the post in pf, and i was tempted to join in for the free carry and the money LOL

[@MysentialDelfyre]

@@Aethereality it was not worth the time spent, this person did 0 research and watched no videos at the time. 10-18mil is not worth an entire day of doing nothing. I could have helped actual c4x for free. The gil was w/e.

[@Aethereality]

@@MysentialDelfyre Yeah, I'm just kidding. But I *was* kinda jelly thinking that the person was truthful and rich enough in game to splurge 18mil per person for an ultimate clear, while I'm over here struggling with twister prog LOL!

[@gmb3682]

@@Aethereality what's Twister prog? You just watch the cast bar and move, equivalent to a slidecast. And then don't touch the puddle as not to yeet your entire party lol

[@daethalion1725]

I totally expected this to end with, "Where's the fucking money, Lebowski?!"

[@Neurometry]

*looks at ucob* it's down there somewhere lemme take another look

[@SageTigerStar]

I wanted the group of them to slow-roll up on the FC house in the FFXV car, callin em bitches and askin "where the moneyz at?" lol

[@xbree_]

WOW below the limit break 😂😂😂😂

[@coolyeh1017]

pretty common for UCOb and UWU carries though. If I am correct you can effectively complete the fight with 7 people.

[@dissolvingW]

@@coolyeh1017 yeah they completed it as 7 when they were carrying that person

[@tsjeriAu]

In terms of dps, yeah you can easily do it 7man. It's the mechanics that require a full group. Just a quick thoughts from memory : Earthshakers will kill the second person (unless a tank invuln?), raven dives on nael transition kills nontanks unless they are healed though that can be worked around, fire and ice likewise, if aware of it then its OK. Quickmarch towers need tank lb if even 1 is missing, and you often want it for octet to make the stack a nonissue and I'm not sure if you get it in time. Twin dive on octet can also be fucky. Point is, there are a lot of mechanics that will screw you over if you don't have all 8 doing them correctly. If a carry has 0 knowledge of the fight at all, I'd nope out of there so fucking fast. Even if they hit half of their gcds while focusing on mechanics that's one thing, but this guy did 0. There are groups that do afk carries, you're not really gonna find them by putting up a pf on your own.

[@coolyeh1017]

The FC seems super nice and cooperative with these guys. Kuddos to them.

[@RyuNoZero]

The Best Part about it is that it doesn't matter how often he changes his Name as long as someone has him on a Friendlist, he can be tracked down easily. I know this also can be abused for stalking but in this case it's quite useful.

[@f1reman237]

I mean, that's the worst bit as well. FFXIV Does not in any way prevent stalking Effectively. Blacklisting/removing someone is 1 sided, other person can still have you added and track you. I've had multiple friends who have had stalker issues.

[@RyuNoZero]

@@f1reman237 yes, it's a double edged sword, though in case of stalking writing a report should be the right action to do

[@Larunda]

If you have their Lodestone ID, you can never escape

[@dains6623]

ugh i hate ffxiv terrible friendlist system

[@The9813]

@@f1reman237 You can use the voidlist plugin to completely hide effects and playermodels though, if youre on console youre fucked though

[@risha5642]

I shouldn't be surprised at the lengths people people go to scam, but still

[@rst9022]

The dude paid around 250-300 dollars just to scam 6 ppl on 8 bucks worth of gil

[@Iistener]

@@rst9022 Truly a big brain play

[@ci11antr0]

What I find hilarious is that it's the piss colored weapon

[@ceeeff2559]

bro if your piss is neon yellow you need to start drinking way more water 💀💀

[@aTypicalMushroom]

@@ceeeff2559 skull emoji skull emoji

[@ci11antr0]

@ceeeff2559 I think I'm going to need more then water to fix that one.💀💀

[@ArchieGamez]

Bro u dissing fkin Megaflare on a weapon??

[@samwilkinson9309]

I mean, what other choice does he have? I mean, maybe UWU but I'm not sure if he'll get through the others sandbagging the whole fight

[@rebellyanmagic6409]

But remember, he has 'bad anxiety'.

[@iveeiselia2318]

Fuck his anxiety .

[@Teru91333319]

Exactly what I was thinking lmao Anyone with any actual bad anxiety would be not able to confront the reality of the situation, where they, the person, have become blacklisted by raiding. Simply "switching to a new account" wouldn't absolve them of that anxiety. Ofc anxiety forms in many ways, but this guy is very clearly using it to deflect any amount of responsibility he has in this situation.

[@Redcritxx]

more like bad brain damage

[@Justaguywithglassesok]

thats the scammers way of saying '' if you dont give me money my children will starve because of you''

[@Asako_Gaming]

Remember folks, addons are bad and you can get banned for it because it devalues clearing ultimates, but buying clears for gil is absolutely fine and dones't devalue the ultimate at all. Wink wink.

[@OmegaMetroid93]

Both can be bad. Doesn't have to be either or.

[@villaniousmustache4898]

​@@OmegaMetroid93 no both ARE bad. Not can be bad. Enough with the beta mindset

[@villaniousmustache4898]

It's just yoshi p not knowing how to run an MMO as always

[@OmegaMetroid93]

@@villaniousmustache4898 true gotta have that strong alpha mindset bro, video games are serious shit. nothing screams confident leader like nitpicking someone's choice of words in a youtube comment.

[@dumbino7745]

​@@OmegaMetroid93 addons CAN be bad but they can also be fine, it depends on the addon in question you don't see people being called cheaters over having a chat bubble addon for example, so you are right on that front. buying clears on the other hand is ALWAYS bad because it puts the buyer in a position where they can fuck up all the time and never learn the content or get better or even engage with it at all but still make it through and get the rewards meant for the good players (like how the scammer in this vid had 0dps he was definitely just afk the whole fight).

[@ICountFrom0]

That white roe with that outfit is a tradition in japan. If somebody has done something shameful, swarms of them get created and AFK around that person. That exact build, that exact everything. A swarm of them is... more then a little creepy.

[@ironashi3485]

“18 mil fake money” as I look at the chat. I could use that 18 mil on glam, a house, but most importantly mounts worth 50mil lol

[@HikariLight121]

heck i bet there are some players who will help people clear the Ult fights for free just because they like seeing more players run around with the fancy weapon glam.

[@watchdoge6464]

Imagine having to trade gil with someone 120 times. Must take longer than clearing an ultimate

[@jijonbreaker]

Mannequins. Put something worthless up for 18 million, there is no fee. It's how I sold an ornate chest piece.

[@GG2COOL95]

Parsing? BAD ! Scamming? FINE!

[@penguinvader7057]

imagine doing this just to have one of those piss looking weapons

[@maverickh1794]

But it's a weapon. Ultimates are made for that 0,2% of people that have a enough time and a nice group to clear, that's why the reward is a bit meh. If there wasn't a reward, people would complaing that the hardest content in the game should have a big reward, but if it was things like a mount or a legendary minion, only a few players would have it and that's not too fair.

[@maverickh1794]

In my case I don't have time or speak english to complete one of them. In my country literally nobody play this game :(

[@penguinvader7057]

​@@maverickh1794 ucob has been cleared by like 3% of active players at level cap, so it's not as niche as you'd think. also your english seems fine, at least at a level where communicating about the game shouldn't be an issue (especially since people are clearing it in PF where they don't even have voice). plus my entire point is that the reward is not worth buying an illegitimate clear for since it's not that good, the value in clearing ucob is more the fun you have doing it than what you get for it

[@aileenswann]

@@penguinvader7057 FFCollect shows that my DSR clearing achievement as 4% (as of today), so i totally agree with you xD

[@penguinvader7057]

@@aileenswann Keep in mind, ffxivcollect calculates ownership percentages based on accounts that have been updated within the last 3 months on the site, and people who look themselves up on the site are a skewed sample since they probably take the game more seriously than the average user, so I would wager a guess that the percentage of active users who've cleared is lower than that. Still not as niche as people would think though.

[@SSJ4Bass]

“It is what it is” That one gave me a good laugh, lol

[@redozmasoma]

126million? damn I'm struggling to getting back to 1M the only time I got 1M was when the game gave me the free 1M after hitting level 30 for new players in OC data last June lol

[@jackbordar2727]

Do some treasure maps. An easy 1M per day. I made 15M in 2 weeks and I only played half of the time on the side.

[@shindeiru8299]

Do you have your crafters levelled to 90? You can get a decent amount of gil each week doing leves

[@BigChilla420]

If you're on the OCE server get into crafting/gathering for sure, playerbase still growing so low level materials and crafts can sell for decent gil. Treasure maps too for sure and check your Challenge Logs for a list of things to do daily/weekly for a little extra gil. Run your dailies regulalry and that'll add up too even if you don't need the tomes or exp. Good luck!

[@hurri-db]

Eureka. Look up reaper solo lockbox farm. (edit to add: I am "I bought every materia on the data centre and sold them back at a profit on patch day" rich.)

[@Fourenr]

Just having your retainers leveled up and doing quick venture every hour can net you some spare gil over time from just selling stuff they bring back. It's a slow and unreliable method but adds up in the long run.

[@TwinSpiritTV]

"It is what it is." Is the equivalent of Ray from Trailer Park Boys saying: "That's the way she goes."

[@4thwall826]

i did some c41, most of them were trap but one of them actually gifted the whole pt with cash shop item for a p4s clear

[@heycross]

So gms got involved and did nothing about it. Good to know

[@EverianKalim]

Wheres the fun in buying clears for weapons. Learn the Fight and have fun.

[@Sephiroso.]

The fun is having people come up to you and whispering "Dude, sick weapon. Where'd you get it?"

[@villaniousmustache4898]

​@@Sephiroso. and then you'll never be remembered again. But go off

[@Sephiroso.]

@@villaniousmustache4898 Like you will be lol?

[@kellevichy]

@@Sephiroso. /You/ didn't get it lmao.

[@Sephiroso.]

@CommanderGuy I don't even play FFXIV lmao. I was explaining why someone would do that.

[@puppetstudio4989]

why can't people play the game

[@anonuser4806]

They should of asked for half upfront and the other half upon clear. That way, even that no-life scammed them, they'd still walk out with 9 million as oppose to (potentially) nothing. Btw, I am not saying that what that loser did was in any way, shape, or form good, but what I am saying is that the people who join these Pfs should protect themselves from situations like these. You never know when you're going to get a pathetic loser trying to scam you out of fake digital game currency.

[@jijonbreaker]

Nah, don't even bother. As long as they advertised it in PF, report it to a GM, and either they pay up or get banned. GMs enforce player contracts.

[@MRboss11]

18 Million gil is $9??? God damnn

[@coolyeh1017]

Gil is effectively very inexpensive in this game. It is because literally almost everything gives out gil, dailies? Gil. Adventurer in need? More gil. Fates? Gil. Sidequests? Gil. Crafting? Gil. Market board? Gil. If you do just dailies with adventurer in need you can grind out nearly a million or so from the DF gil. Also there aren't too many gil sinks in this game and money isn't a requirement or barrier to obtaining gear or access to raiding compared other MMOs (which is fine since not everyone can grind a MMo 40 hours a week). There is a tax system for MB buying and selling (unless for the week it is 0%) and the Aetheryte teleportation costs. The gil sinks are four mounts which total at 175 mill and perhaps housing (with the most expensive house at 50 million) and crafting for housing (even cheaper if you can craft and gather everything).

[@gmb3682]

and AM and Cactbot are free, yet here we are lmao

[@shadowsage2636]

The best part is gill isn't really needed for anything important, unless you wanna buy houses, it's why i laugh at anyone stupid enough to buy gill.

[@gmb3682]

@@shadowsage2636 People use real money to buy feet pics lmao

[@SammaelGwyn]

Why do people pay for a game and then pay to not have to play that game? Then pay even more money to cover up the fact that they don’t want to play the game. Just seems insane to me.

[@enchman69]

they want the attention associated with ultimate weapons/titles

[@TailRunnerOPSpec]

Depends. As somebody who spent an inordinate amount of time in the game, patience and tolerance levels tank. I don't have the money for carries, but in that regard, I understand it.

[@Sirrizz]

@@enchman69 which is weird since id argue most people don’t give a shit lmao. I have never been approached by someone because of my ulti clears an i don’t know anyone who has outside of world firsts flexing the new weapons.

[@kahome]

Some people like this one are very casual gamers in ffxiv but spend alot of time with glams and erp. If they have the money they will gladly spend it just for glam. This person is a great example of this.

[@BigChilla420]

Like the poet Kendrick once recited "clout chasing is a hell of a disease brother"

[@luiz8755]

Strummer has 911 karma police of drama a not-so-silent vigilant

[@TheHipHopTrucka]

Lmao my mam farming the drama I ain't mad at you

[@alastor8780]

'I can be where I was on this old account in a week' XIV progression in absolute fucking shambles lmao

[@karasutsuki1733]

Hell ye, he reacts to it, i read it on release and it was awesome

[@POWERSTOVE]

where is the snowflake rage from TOS babies? those jp players had their weapons taken away while this scrub can buy clears and gil and not be banned into the next century. smh

[@SilverNightbane]

I'd say in this case, offering a bounty via Gil still falls in ToS, the scammer not paying is the problem. As for the JP players that got their stuff taken away, there was video proof they were blatantly cheating with zoom hacks, so the GMs have a far easier time to enact authority in that case.

[@aileenswann]

When they banned RMT services from pf (and other services too), they clarified that posting a bounty for GIL is fine, but offering it yourself as a service is not. (iirc)

[@roxasdrayheart5561]

so im a little confused. The first time, the scammer made everyone else pay them to do the raid right? did they pay *others* for later ones? im sort of confused on how the whole thing went down in terms of money given (1st time they were paid, other times they paid others?) also wait doesnt a name change cost real money? I....I'm trying to follow this and am just so confused. Sorry if i sound like a n00b in terms of this whole debacle, I really have 0 experience in the whole money transfer thing and scamming in games (ff14 is my first mmo so...)

[@LinkThinks]

No, the first time they were supposed to pay the party after the successful clear, which they avoided doing. They put up a party for endgame content saying (essentially) "Hey, if you carry me through an Ultimate clear I'll pay you folks." They got the clear, then figured they could just run away without paying for it. As far as I can tell (having only watched this video on the issue) there were no later clears. They attempted to make party finder groups to get clears from other ultimates, but it seems unlikely that they would have paid for those either given what they pulled the first time, and I'd imagine the world of people giving paid Ultimate clears is small enough that most people would've heard about the initial incident, although that's really just conjecture on my part. Also, does a name change cost real money? Yes. Yes it does.

[@1337penguinman]

This reminds me of old school WoW drama with ninja looters. Back before cross server was a thing.

[@tanhongyi7180]

A game that is known to make its in-game currency worthless, a game that cracks down hard on RMT, a game that is least P2W because everything is earned by playing on your own......and then there's this guy trying to pay his way through the endgame. If anything, GMs should crack down on his source of Gil than the act of him scamming people instead.

[@coolyeh1017]

I think Square really have little authority on the RMT sites since the most notorious ones tend to operate outside their jurisdiction (aka not mentioned out of the game and sometimes out of Japan). They also don't want to deal with the legal nightmares and cat and mouse game and prefer the "don't ask, don't tell" thing they have going on. You can offer gil to buy clears because, well, Square is going to give the benefit of the doubt than ban the wrong person or innocent party.

[@mikloskoszegi]

Apart from banning bots and banning people who get caught doing RMT they can't really do much else.

[@thatmanavakon]

There's not much they CAN do because of legal reasons, so the only thing they can do is punish RMT activity that has already taken place on a player-to-player basis. They do a decent job at this imo with how quickly RMT advertizers are temporarily account suspended. And its a good thing its a suspension because accounts that get stolen are often used for RMT, it gives the original owners the option to get their account back.

[@ArcaneLatte]

@@mikloskoszegi There isn't even anyway to get caught doing RMT the only way would be if you yourself said you were doing RMT and got reported if you never once mention it ingame they can't do anything

[@Cyrus_Nagisa]

you say that like it is an easy thing, you say that like they have not tried already, or any MMORPG for that matter, its not easy to completely remove RMT

[@HarumiYu]

I can't believe people still falling for those PF offering Gil for clear, lootmaster and so on, since ever this exists and ends always in the same way. But this one is another level of commitment. OMEGALUL

[@Sephiroso.]

Well the truth is it doesn't always end the same way. If it didn't, people wouldn't fall for it still. There are people who offer x amount of money and pay it after they get a clear. You just run the risk in running into the ninja looters. All i can say is, i never would have been in a position to collectively lose 126 million. I've never done a carry run that didn't pay up front whatever % i felt satisfied with to where if they cut and run, i was fine with it.

[@Verpal]

I think its just that only some people know player contract in this game is enforceable by GM, even if it is just verbal one, some folks from other mmo come over, get boosted, didn't realize people can and will report and track your character to the end of time.

[@Ch3l4stLP]

not really "falling for it" when money parties are the cleanest, least parse-greeding ones that exist because people just wanna be done asap and get payed

[@Erystik]

I got a some gils doing that like 20m to 30m the lasts weeks of 6.25 cause everyone wanted to have p4s weapons and chest or EX trial mounts i got my money every time the guys offered 500k to 2m each for the clear so yeah people aren't that bad as you think and most of people buying those clears are next level crafters who have so much money they don't care for them it more worth their time to spend 14M for one 15 min clear that doing 4 hour of PF . But i don't know if i will do that for p8s before 10% echo this fight is really punishing if one guy go full yolo

[@joshuayung5158]

I've never not gotten paid when I join bounty PFs, and the few times I'm paying (glam farms for max level dungeons) I always pay out. If your experiences are that bad you can contact a GM who will force the to pay or get their prize removed. Just make sure to use in game communication like party chat.

[@luckyrb8683]

I saw once a player offer 7man carry service on pf . They also offer other than 7man carry service like house designer and levekits service.

[@VibeFGC]

And I thought I saw the most miserable players already

[@aces_h1gh]

Sounds more of a head ache than just progging an ultimate

[@nikolanikolic6625]

Never invoke wrath of the internet. Few people once peaceful and docile can turn into best investigators in an instant once wrong doing is brought upon them and make you regret your life xD

[@FrozzenK]

Mercenary is a legit activity like crafting or gathering. Its huge in Japan DC where I play and also the country this game comes from, and I make a lot of gil through it. People acting like legit work is bad are so weird.

[@lisahayakawa1191]

If i had more gil would offer them for clear on any ultimate for carry and i let them know the location to meet. Though i would not use real money offer.

[@Thundawich]

So... couldn't SE just implement a feature that just gives a delayed trade that happens on duty completion? You set it up beforehand, and if the instance gets cleared the trade automatically goes off. No trust required for anyone, perfect system :D

[@Szekeres000]

idk, i couldn't give less damn about boosters, like the whole point of the weapon is the skill behind it to earn it and the idea of boosting opposes it fundamentally. and yeah, earning money is not skill. i dont feel bad for anyone here, but holy the scammer seems stupid

[@bellamango6708]

no, cob is free like any other ultimate. you just have to work for it, hence the issues kekw

[@USMC49er]

This sounds like a Sopranos episode in FFXIV

[@Raymond13557]

i seen people selling runs in the pf quite a few times and requesting direct payment with real money.. makes me glad i report those clowns.

[@Youkesama]

Honestly.. even though I've helped people for money before I don't think its good for the long run.. it will only promote RMT and Drama.. I know some people pay for their clears with their hard earned money but some don't so I dunno

[@ClaudioProductionsX]

It made me remember an experience I had. When I was on E4S, I had BiS and was bored and had nothing to do, so I would join for fun clear parties to help people clear, however, as most of them had traps, I made myself an own rule: -If you wish me to help you clear, I'll give you 3 pulls, after all if it's a clear party, it should be enough to get a clear, as I assume EVERYONE already knows the full fight. -If after 3 tries we haven't cleared and we aren't even close to clearing, pay me in gil or raiding resources, and I'll stick with you until you clear, otherwise I'll leave because we weren't able to clear in 3 pulls despite it being a clear party. And, that rule created a funny tale: Introducing THE 9 HOUR LOCKOUT E4S RAID EXPERIENCE. What happened here is that we were very close to clear, and I told the members my rule, so they complied. We took a little break and they gave me food, pots and some gil, and to complete my part of the bargain, I stuck with them, helping them, explaining them what happened, how to do it better, as we wiped and wiped. It was there an upsetting pull, that it was the clear, all we needed was a melee LB. Titan was low HP, and our only melee stood more than needed in a mechanic to greed a little more DPS, and we enraged under 1%. What hurt me the most is that if that was a clear, it would have been my first ever 99 parse I had gotten in this game. We continued. Then some people left after around the 8 hour mark, and I called some friends to fill that wanted to help too, and at the 9th hour mark, IT HAPPENED, WE CLEARED THE FIGHT. We celebrated it like it was a world first clear. After the experience, the group of friends that I helped wanted to add me to their friend list, thanked me a lot and offered me to craft anything I wanted for free, just bringing them the tome materials and they would do everything else, and add some extra, and we ended up becoming friends. The reason I was able to handle 9 hours of wiping without rest besides holding my part of the deal is that they were actually very chill. Also, the experience helped me optimize the fight to lengths I had never done before, and I was able to do most mechanics at walking speed, keeping most uptime, even having 300ms at the time, I memorized every single timing. The only sad part is that after I quit, I also went for some months to another data-center to play with a IRL friend, and after so much time, I forgot the name of those guys, and I guess they forgotten about me too.

[@iceicebabie]

In tears over this video and the comments it's too fucking funny

[@iceicebabie]

Hydaelyn BLESS pfers for real

[@kimlee6643]

You can carry a person through an ult like that? So 7 people go at it and the eighth can play a fiddle? Well that's curious

[@Caesar512]

Not these days, there are mechs that aren't resolvable without 8 people. UCOB is ancient content though, different design, plus substats and food.

[@zirilan3398]

You can do this easily as shown by Rich Campbells clears

[@hb-mek]

ucob and uwu are basically the only ones thats possible. level 70/stormblood design is pretty old and the fights get crushed by modern day gear anyway. Tea/dsr/top(obviously) all have 8 man body checks throughout and tighter dps checks (although even dsrs dps checks are very easy with todays gear/bis, and eventually TOP will be the same)

[@Crazycolorz5]

UCoB does has a soft 8 man check in 8 towers, but you can cheese it with Tank LB3.

[@coolyeh1017]

@@zirilan3398 I think TEA is the only one he had to some "work" in. Even then he had experienced ultimate raiders give him call outs. Since there are a few body checks in that fight.

[@PorrateoIntenso]

I couldnt get the gill because my card declined *pays for name change*

[@Kairax]

When was IRS part?

[@DXAshram]

The IRS part was the initial guy deep-diving to find the scammer's in-game info to track him down for his gil

[@Kairax]

@@DXAshram Would be way better if he were actually reported to actual IRS and got clapped.

[@filthycasualgaming9715]

People who sell clears promote RMT. Where else do they think that gil comes from lmao.

[@hitsukora]

When someone would scam me out of 100 mil, I'd probably think they are petty for ruining their account for such a small sum. Like bro, youre throwing your fucking account away for 100m.

[@harliqyn5836]

Wait! He could not afford to buy the gil (I do not condone)? But he could afford to name change? Loser!

[@aresanu]

I used to sponsor ultimate charity clears meaning if any vet clears someone they get paid 5-8M based on performance and cleared person receives 2-3M

[@sl1mr3ap3r]

bro Ares quit capping, you can't even clear TEA and hardly cleared UWU LMAOOOOOOO

[@acmasta619]

Ah yes ff14 loan sharks. truly a dystopian game

[@danrobgar1979]

In real life and in game, ALWAYS get paid up front! 😀

[@hadoukenocx4746]

Woho More Toilet Content :D

[@ViIhelm7]

I mean what’s all the drama about in these ppl heads the ultimates are not even that big of achievement to go through all of this drama and shit

[@NewAnderL]

ah yes...the good shit!

[@SteveSmith-br3vu]

It is their fault for NOT getting payment upfront. I don't feel bad for them not getting payment. I laugh at the clowns that do a service without payment upfront.

[@Crow-wv6if]

Wait are ultimates so easy you can clear with7 people? Or was it just that one. Maybe I need to try an ultimate….after I clear savage

[@Sirrizz]

Ucob and uwu definitely

[@coolyeh1017]

For Ucob and UWU yes. It is because they are dated content designed in a different era. An era where TP existed and less body checks (TOP and DSR for example are littered with 8 man body checks). Also food and pots keep on getting better and are not synced like gear. They are still difficult since they are ultimates and are more challenging than you average savage content. But the first two are definitely easier.

[@pc86914]

Just uwu and ucob. Yeah, if you can clear a current savage tier then with studying and a lot of available hours to wait for PFs to fill, you can clear uwu and ucob in maybe a few days each.

[@Crow-wv6if]

Yeah I don’t think I’ll try anytime soon. Party finder is way to random, I’m hardly making it to phase 2 in p8s. Thanks for the info though, maybe one day

[@pc86914]

@@Crow-wv6if o7 honestly there's nothing harder in UWU and UCOB than there is in p8s, it's just a longer fight with more to learn. PF's for ultimates are unironically better than those for savage, especially this late in the savage tier, and on average you'll get more serious players. Some will be absolute traps, but some you can progress through multiple phases in just 1 PF if everyone did their homework. and there are always statics recruiting for ultis especially once savage dies down like it is now!

[@cuppaal]

THIS SHIT AINT REALL💀💀💀

[@syllawblood]

How much is ten million gil in real money?

[@Dudemandude007]

Like $8 lol

[@LoktaDabou]

It's hilarious to see this post turned into a KZbin video. I had been looking for someone to do a 7-man carry of UWU for gil for years and this post was how I found the person. They may have gotten scammed out of the original price, but their post was a fantastic advertisement and I made their group 210 million gil richer.

[@fgcgamer]

don't care bout any of the drama but what i'll never understand is why people pay to not play a game

[@enchman69]

as goofy as it sounds, ultimate weapons/titles give u some sort of status/merrit and its usually folk that RP or sit around and do nothing but treat the game like 2nd life that want the attention it brings

[@miamha]

​@@enchman69ultimate titles/weapons have no status because of crap like this. I've cleared uwu and I don't care about the rewards cause you can legit just buy them in game or with RMT, I done it for the fun of the fight.

[@jo9708]

Im unfamiliar with high end raiding in this game, do they have hacks that will play the game for you or give you god mode in these ultimate fights? How do they profit from doing these? I'd imagine they need a full group who also need to be payed, so how does anyone make money?

[@KevinSatron]

Most players don't hack, it's just the DPS check in the fight is so easy, 1 person can just afk and let others DPS it to death. Or they can also pay someone to pilot the character and beat the fight for them. Other than RMT, there's a lot of way to make money in this game

[@ArchieGamez]

You cannot hacks to get god mode

[@jo9708]

@@KevinSatron Assuming these RMT sellers do it as a group because finding randoms in PF would make it way too hard. It just seems like such a time consuming thing to do for almost no profit. But if they're good enough at the fight It probably wont take too long I guess.

[@catssnake4492]

@@jo9708 the person was offering to give gil to the rest of the people in exchange for getting a clear, not the other way around i don't know how RMT sellers get the ingame money, probably from botting if I had to guess, it seems too risky to use pre-established accounts or too slow to go through player-based ingame markets

[@jo9708]

@@catssnake4492 I know I was just curious about the RMT side of it as well since that seems more "common". In my mind these fights take a couple hours and are really hard to do and I see people offer clears for around $60-$100 on my data centers party finder. Splitting $100 8 ways for a few hours of work is just crazy to me. Even more so for few mil gil.

[@ziyad6630]

literally the manliest FFXIV player

[@Vortechtral]

This is exactly why I will never ever join a party that's offering to pay up front first before going into content.

[@vinhdang1335]

my friend was one of the people in this run, we still meme on him in our discord

[@peger]

hey it is what it is. MY MAN :D

[@villaniousmustache4898]

At some point we need to ask ourselves why we tolerate this shit

[@danielmantell8751]

Because you can't do anything about it, and it's going to happen anyway? Also 99% of the player base isn't affected by it so it's not worth building systems to mitigate. I mean I'm all for people for a system where douchebags get their asses kicked, but then douchebags would just abuse it so you would just escalate the issues.

[@coolyeh1017]

Seeing Xenos and the comments everywhere it really isn't.

[@MsPysoul]

ultimate carries are like $30, why bother with such drama lmao

[@mcnallyhamster]

This could have just been avoided doing it professionally by paying before the boost. In WoW you generally book a boost run way in advance, and prepay. When it’s run like that, especially through a guild, you have no one to blame if someone falls through the cracks and scams you. That’s life. I’m sorry but I don’t feel bad for these people that got scammed, because it’s literally just life logic. Why would you ever pay after. That’s insanity.

[@TakaChan569]

and people say wow players are toxic and crazy...wtf is wrong with people.

[@MFxKuro]

buhh

[@purediamond3757]

how did they mange to do morn fah or the haven falls xD they are legends for doing that as 7 people also imagine scaming people in the most ez ultimate people in eu learn everything in 3 days xD and clear if he put the time to learn the fight would be better than scaming the point is people well know that he bought the fight from his log he under the lb xD

[@tennison980]

Cash maniac 🤪

[@dimmkah]

People take this game way too seriously.

[@Crispierbug]

Paypal legend

[@matrias7879]

I make 18m a week just putting consumables up for auction its nothing, dude would have to add a zero or two to my payment to avoid me sending in a complaint ticket after pulling this.

[@F.A-TUBE]

every c41 is a fresh prog .

[@kyugreywolf6801]

How is it possible to do an Ultimate with 7/8 people? O_O

[@Lyu-Phy]

Ultimates have weird design in them, food doesn't get synced for example. Everyone should be hardcore synced to Ultimates without any stat "cheese", dunno why it is like that.

[@kyugreywolf6801]

@@Lyu-Phy Yeah I was thinkin', there's no way you could do the latest raid tier with only 7 people knowing what they're doing; everyone has to play their part. So how the hell is it possible in Ultimates lol

[@Lyu-Phy]

@@kyugreywolf6801 It's super questionable yeah. It's even more funny because P8S is very comparable to Ultimates like UWU and UCOB, just shorter and beats the living hell out of the party even with minor mistakes. Weird design. But old ultimates (Stormblood) are also not fully team dependent, another design difference - which is also an odd gameplay choice for the creme de la creme difficulty.

[@kyugreywolf6801]

@@Lyu-Phy P8S... *shudder*. Never looked back as soon as I got BiS, and for good reason. lol! I haven't done any Ultimates, but I've heard this is only possible with older Ultimates i.e. not being full-party dependent. DSR and TOP are in a league of their own it seems. Or rather the next 'generation' of Ultimates.

[@maybayV2]

​@@kyugreywolf6801 UcoB was their first run at it, it's mechanically difficult but not difficult DPS wise. Even an average party can skip things. UwU was an attempt to introduce a puzzle element to the ultimate, whereas certain conditions need to be met to not wipe at the end (i.e the awakenings) but it immediately got devalued cause once it was figured out, everyone knew, making it easier than UcoB, relatively.

[@boxboxerson991]

- click on video - pause so you don't have to listen to him stuffing his face - find the original clip hes reacting to - leave

[@Sugar-bz5np]

Dude 18mil? I'd pay these ppl 18mil EACH for a carry

[@NotExplicable]

Just start a new char 🤣

[@rizwaanansari8526]

There’s no reason to even play the game anymore. It’s plagued with tools. I mean hell even the streamers who use those tools can hide most of it while streaming. There’s literally no point to even raid.

[@KomboKong]

Get good and start a prog scrubs

[@ifergot]

ngl, I don't play ff14 and I just come for the drama videos. My friends do play though, which how I got here. :)

[@wideBuhh]

Buhh

[@yep8058]

"The FFXIV community is the best MMO community"

[@JustSomeRandomBurger]

The more I play the game the more I realize how terrible the community is. Somehow they've tricked everyone into thinking otherwise 🤦

[@cyblack23452]

@@JustSomeRandomBurger lol its pure shit its like the worst community the game its awesome but its community sucks cuz its filled with weirdos, alphabet people that makes the experience in this fantasy game of "look how gay i am" its a shame its plagued with mental illness folks

[@aileenswann]

@@JustSomeRandomBurger There is no such things as absolutes, and every community has its bad apples. Everything is about how you conduct yourself too.

[@shauhuang3208]

​@@JustSomeRandomBurger as someone who engaged with various communities (naming a few: Overwatch, Animal Crossing, League of Legends, even some gacha games) FF14 is one of the better ones out there. You are always going to run into problems and potentially drama through player interactions. Scams especially aren't unheard of in any online games. FF14 is voted to have the best community but no one ever said it is drama/scammer proof. If you have problem with that, solo trust is available for MSQ-only content and there are tons of single players game to avoid all player interactions.

[@Jacqli-Rivoli]

Tbh I don't feel bad that they were scammed. Anyone with half a brain could tell that person was planning to run off the moment they were carried, they just had to sit and wait long enough for 7 people dumb enough to actually do it. Hopefully they learned their lesson and will think twice the next time they come across someone offering money for a clear. It's not worth all this horseshit over made up currency in a game.

[@vidzrswow]

If anything you are the real idiot. You don't know how trust trades work and accounting for risk of loss(businesses do this too). In new world you can sell m10 shards similarly and its the best gold despite the risk.

[@Lyu-Phy]

Hear hear, Goes to show that good faith is not everything.

[@shauhuang3208]

thank you captain hindsight for your redundant wisdom on the hypothetical high horse. Going to fly off now?

[@Jacqli-Rivoli]

@@shauhuang3208 No, I'm going to reply to you because I want to make you even more mad. Seethe more. :)

[@shauhuang3208]

@@Jacqli-Rivoli not a boomer typing up an essay telling people to get mad. Cry more snowflake. :)

[@Vindisify]

xddddd

[@emilyspector2728]

Oh noooooooo!!! It’s WoW all over again with the damn clears….

[@GriziDaWiz]

i hate ruining the game for someone like this because they made a stupid mistake... but come onnnnn they did it again! some people man....

[@deathlegion6713]

Well... This is a none issue oh Lord you didn't get your worthless in game money sucks to suck it sucks it happen but oh well

[@chstens]

And people wonder why I mostly hate the FF14 playerbase.

[@prodigous21]

this is what it takes for you? lmao

[@chstens]

@@prodigous21 No, it's a lot of things

[@vc4961]

and that's why you get the money first

[@aphilli97]

I’m not condoning or saying I use it lmao. But all imma say is mmogah😂

[@lootmaster1337]

Sorry i wanted to pay you with rmt but my card declined. Peposadnoise

[@windowlicker6776]

average Limsa afker