U 869 2020

[@flashesofblack4128]

I am an ex navy man. When I watch these videos I always think that those sailors were fighting for their country just as we did for ours. They were still human beings. Rest in Peace my brothers in arms.

[@1man2dogs1life]

amazing. R.I.P to all those brave men

[@jonathanstein1783]

Shadow Divers was an intense read!

[@charlesmullenax4448]

Indeed sir. I think I've read it 6 times. The chapter about the dangers of wreck diving by itself is intense.

[@mohammedcohen]

...exactly the adjective that I used to describe the book....'intense'...just finished the book last week!!!

[@mustanggun]

Thx for sharing the experience brothers. Maybe one day I’ll get down there

[@jamesvalenti9288]

Looks like the engine room as rusted away quite a bit. I remember watching the documentary with John Chatterton in it. They were barely able to get into the engine room, but had to in order to identify the boat.

[@gunnarthefeisty]

Yes, the large tube has now fallen down and it's easy to access the engine.

[@jalspach9215]

Hallowed ground for sure. Not just the fate of her crew, but divers Chris & Chrissy Rouse & others who left this Earth there back in the day.

[@felixcat9318]

I immediately recognised the number as that of U-WHO, from the superb documentary with Diver John Chatterton. Martin Horenberg's Knife was the remarkable find, and him being the only seaman in the entire Kriegsmarine, let alone the U-Boat section with that name was really quite astonishing. That the entire crew went down with it was entirely fitting.

[@danielhirschberg876]

John Chatterton is amazing

[@ThatsMrMoronToYou]

If they could have gone deeper, they might have survived the depth charges. Even the hedgehogs take time to descend...time for the boat to manuever. The IXC was capable of three times the depth of this war grave.

[@felixcat9318]

@@ThatsMrMoronToYou The crew were a complete failure, as they didn't sink anything before being sunk themselves. Their boat went from being launched to being sunk with nothing in between. Only one crewman survived, but only because he fell ill just before her departure and was sent ashore. Doubtless he suffered from survivors guilt as he alone lived.

[@СергейНужных-ю2я]

@@ThatsMrMoronToYou U-869 погибла от собственной,самонаводящейся,акустической торпеды Т-5, которая сделала круг и ударила лодку в левый борт в районе центрального отсека. Взврыв торпеды, мощностью в 280 кг тротила не оставил морякам никаких шансов на спасение... А немного позже, два американских эсминца обстреляли глубинными бомбами корпус лодки, лежащий на дне....

[@ThatsMrMoronToYou]

@@СергейНужных-ю2я I can't read French.

[@clintkinsey1614]

It always amazes me everytime I watch a video of shipwrecks how clear the water is

[@MichaelAnsaldiJr]

The men that died in that sub were fighting for what they thought was right. They were fighting for their homeland and are heroes there. Unlike in America now where they are erasing the past Germany understands the value of keeping it alive so what was done will never happen again. R.I.P. sailors

[@MrMrliamo]

A lot didn't do it because they thought it was rite, a lot were forced to do it, and would suffer great consequence if they didnt

[@Nightdiver20]

@@MrMrliamo Submarine forces tend to be volunteer. Conscripts don't do so well in a navy.

[@chucknorris6640]

@@Nightdiver20 the volunteer because it was the only way to avoid fighting the red army

[@gunnarthefeisty]

The captain was somewhat anti nazi. Your made up history is false.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Germany is currently just as bad as America with "changing the past" to fit the liberal narrative. Germany is going all progressive socialist garbage where they attack the past & DON'T allow it to be mentioned etc.

[@sr633]

After a long run of sucess the U Boats and their crews were sunk to the point where they didn't go out for the glory they once had.RIP..

[@larry2447]

Chatterton (particularly) & Kohler were madmen, and I mean that in the best way possible. Their individual feats on the Doria, alone, were pretty epic, but their teamwork on ID'ing U-869 re-wrote history. Period.

[@deeplou1]

Read the books (Shadow Divers, & Last Dive). Heard some of the (side)stories from divers I knew before reading them in these books. Then got to dive the U-869 myself. Only once and for a mere 15 minutes of bottom time.

[@WalkthroughPlanet]

this is why Ill stick with rovs, 1000 bucks plus the boat rental, vs thousands and years of training

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

People have been asking about depth. The 869 lies in 240 meters/74 feet of water.

[@Skizi75]

90 meters?

[@ericplanamente5300]

23 meters

[@ericplanamente5300]

Actually, the ship lies 240 feet depth (74 meters)

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

74 meters@@Skizi75

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

74 meters@@ericplanamente5300

[@lightning1975]

Great video, however going inside this has massive amounts of “nope” as far as I’m concerned!

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

Haha! It is definitely not for everyone. One of the reasons we make these videos is so that everyone can experience the history.

[@karaDee2363]

I could never dive in there, way too spooky for me

[@diegoargibay2287]

actually it's a war grave, the men died on board while in service. You visit the wreck and that's ok as long as you do it ith respect, but you shouldn't be sneaking into the sub, it's not a game to play, besides it's dangerous to enter, many people have died trapped with the equipment they carry and the ships, and not just a couple.

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

We agree that this, and all shipwrecks, should be dived with respect. There are always risks associated with diving. All of our divers have the required training, experience, and qualifications to penetrate deep shipwrecks.

[@mohammedcohen]

...both Chatterton and Kohler felt the same way - they respected the dead sailors and wanted only to identify the wreck positively and (Kohler especially) give closure to the sailors' relatives...as he did

[@norms3913]

Where did they find this u boat at ? I know found a few of them off the east coast of the u.s.

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

There were many U-boats hunting off the Eastern Seaboard as part of the Battle of the Atlantic. This one is off the Coast of NJ.

[@mohammedcohen]

Read 'Shadow Divers' by Robert Kurson...

[@norms3913]

@@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488 you ever dived for the u boat 1105 the black panther it was sunk in the Potomac river in piney point Maryland ?

[@Noneofyourbiz123]

60 miles off the coast of New Jersey. Read Shadow Divers. Best non-fiction book I've ever read.

[@Noneofyourbiz123]

@@mohammedcohen Best non-fiction I've ever read. Got me into diving.

[@MakhnoAlexandr]

Very interesting!

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@ssherrierable]

That thing could just shift in the current trapping a diver inside forever, be careful.

[@PRR5406]

They suffered unimaginable deaths, but please recognize what the U-Boats were fighting for and the horrors they inflicted on merchants and military ships alike. As sailors they endured a comradery most men never experience, but had they won the war, we would be living in a Nazi hell.

[@jzk3919]

Why did not we see any bones then? About the wreck diving itself:Going in is one thing...Finding way out is another, entirely different matter!

[@connorjohnson4402]

bones and bodies dont stick around long have you seen the videos on the whale falls? At most you would find would be the remains of any clothes and then only buttons or other metal things and possibly something synthetic but that's about it unless they were inside of a closed off area so no wildlife could get in easily still wouldn't be much.

[@Jester123ish]

@@connorjohnson4402 The bones are there, a lot, read Shadow Divers, they didn't film them out of respect. They might not be obvious until the silt is removed.

[@matthewturner7888]

I know this original comment is a bit old, so about a month ago, Ritchie Kohler did an interview with History X (youtube channel) and on some of Kohlers dives that he has videotaped, he has had to edit them because they show human remains. In fact, Kohler went as far as saying that one time they recovered a boot from within the wreck and were going to give to a family member, only to realize that their might be something within the boot, so they stopped what they were doing. You mention * Finding way out is another, entirely different matter!* What I do not think many people realize is that before the boat was ever Identified as the U-869, 3 divers had already been killed, 1 of them got trapped inside of the wreck and was not recovered for several months after and the other 2, a father and son, had decompression sickness after going to the wreck and getting trapped within the wreck and nearly running out of air as they were escaping. I know U-869 is one of the few accessible sunken U-boats in the fact that someone can get inside of it, but one thing that I am not sure many people realize is, that it still has live ammunition onboard and as time goes on, the ammunition becomes increasingly unstable.

[@gianlucamai]

Right ost❤

[@DANNY68KIMPEL]

How deep is the dive?

[@jalspach9215]

240 ft./74 meters

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

240 feet/73 meters

[@gianlucamai]

How deep is yout love?

[@vermackt]

WHO Deep ? R.I.P

[@ruthparker1140]

("der sgt.") "He said:" 74 ft.

[@СергейНужных-ю2я]

250 футов

[@CatDaddySteve]

LAME lights. Other videos of the same sub have excellent lighting

[@meofnz2320]

The Federal Republic of Germany retains ownership of the submarines, regardless of whether the present position of the wreck is within national territorial waters or not. Sunken German warships are principally defined to be “tombs of a seaman’s grave.” Diving and exploring the wreck is therefore not permitted without government approval, which has been denied in each case to date. To keep a wreck a tomb, the FRG prohibits any violation to a World War II sub and will enforce this condition through legal means.

[@genesauter4755]

Why are they invading the war grave!! My dad was navy in ww2 said you kill or be killed no mercy 🤔 😤 go home save

[@georgedistel1203]

After reading the comments, I see that it's a war grave . Technically and morally, you shouldn't be entering the wreck. Not as much sediment as I would have expected must not be a lot of current around the wreck.

[@magosryzak7477]

There is a major current there, one of the major hazards of the wreck if I recall correctly.

[@iainmacdonald1170]

This video shows divers going inside a war grave. That is potentially a criminal, and certainly a moral, offence. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@simonanderson5501]

so all the tourist attractions where you sit in a Japanese zero are also criminal? As long as you are respectful I see no problem with exploring wrecks from the past.

[@iainmacdonald1170]

@@simonanderson5501 Only if the pilot were still inside…. There is a clear difference between a historical relic and a war grave. It’s one thing to view a sunken vessel from the outside, but it’s quite another to penetrate such a wreck in the inside. A clear violation of maritime law.

[@AncientAbsWisdom]

@@iainmacdonald1170 I certainly found it morally questionable too. My uncle died at sea and I'd hate people to violate the sanctity of his wreck just for a look around.

[@dvtenaciousatlanticwrecksa6488]

You may disagree, but it is legal to dive military wrecks in the North Atlantic. it is not a criminal or civil offense.

[@1337flite]

How is it different to visiting a war grave on land, or for that matter a battle field?