U-DRAG: Dodge Durango Hellcat vs. Tesla Model Y Performance

[@edmundscars]

These two performance SUVs achieve impressive speeds in very different ways, so do you prefer the Model Y's silent electric propulsion, or the Durango Hellcat's supercharger whine and bellowing V8? Let us know in the comments below!

[@evergonzalez6350]

Should’ve had the Model X against the Durango. Same size. The Durango would’ve still been destroyed 😬

[@cisky1972]

Can someone explain to me why Ford and Stelantis make you pick your RPM's for launch Control? The German rivals don't do that. I see a lot of cons. What are the pros?

[@_Chev_Chelios]

4:21British guy says he “hit the Apex perfectly“. However, at 4:21 he is about a car length away from the apex, i.e. the cone. Even if you were to make the argument that the most effective apex is later in the arc, you could’ve still chosen a line that got you closer to the flag.

[@rickeybarnes6471]

Dude charge the Tesla over 90 percent and redo with and without track mode! Super slow times ☹️Rubbish !😮

[@PanosCharalambopoulos]

You should race electric cars with a full battery . This one around 40% has a noticeable decrease in power. Also track mode makes the car slower but able to sustain a stable level of performance for longer. So you really penalised the EV.

[@lplt]

i love when they swtich drivers, you can really see who the btter driver is and not just the car

[@Story_Teller_Everyone]

One dude was better at launching other was better at cornering.

[@K03sport]

wait until they add a 3rd pedal...then it gets real (obviuos)

[@GrandHuevotes]

Yeah that blonde driver is way too generic and too much of a character and not a true car guy/driver

[@coolsquad7428]

@@Story_Teller_Everyone true lol

[@luishsantiago]

They both seem to finish about a half second behind with the Durango. 1000lb difference

[@brucebolduc3403]

Not the start nor finish I expected for the first race. This format really shows how balanced a car is across acceleration braking and handling. Well done

[@chyldstudios]

You forgot to mention that the Dodge is 2x more expensive than the Tesla.

[@p.patrickcamba2514]

See video at 0:49

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Bro, the dodge is worth it for the price. Think about it, better top speed, better quality, more comfortable, and better handling. Quick in straight line isn’t everything, give the Durango a 1/2 mile and it’ll gap the Tesla more than the gaps between its panels. And it actually makes sound. I do give Tesla props though for the insane launches though.

[@nelsonbermudez7068]

The Durango is more fun

[@philippeferreiradesousa4524]

@@benjaminmatute9085 The Durango is the price and size of a Model X Plaid which is a 9s car and traps in the 1/4 (145mph) more than the Durango traps in the 1/2 mile (140mph)

[@chrisgill7824]

​@@philippeferreiradesousa4524the Durango is tuneable to a 1,000hp+ where the tesla is stuck with what you got and a tuned Hellcat would walk a tesla in the 1/2 mile

[@LearningFast]

A brand new Tesla Model Y Performance is $54,000 before the $7,500 tax credit. It is MUCH less than this video indicates. EDIT: It is $51,000 before the $7,500 tax credit now.

[@nickolasbell4005]

It's a 2020 model, so that was the price when it was brand new. Not really a fair comparison for price, but definitely makes the difference even more in Tesla's favor now with the new price cuts

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

7500$ tax credit only applies if you make under 170k$ a year, I believe...

[@LearningFast]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 $300k a year if married filing jointly. If you are making more than that you don’t deserve the tax credit.

[@Powers242]

​@@LearningFastno one deserves the tax credit.

[@LearningFast]

@@Powers242 yes they do. School teachers, fire fighters, and police officers in areas with extremely high cost of living expenses absolutely deserve it.

[@TheFunkyair]

The best race type in the world wish you could put at least 3 races a week with a shorter version

[@behindthebuild8016]

Just got out the fluff and I agree

[@RDJ1SS]

I require more of these u-dragS

[@Kaj1maru]

Track mode made the MYP slower, My Model Y LR with Acceleration Boost does 0-60 in 4.2 and the 1/4 mile in 12.55. The Performance should do the 0-60 in 3.5 and the 1/4 mile in less than 12 sec.

[@BALANCEDPORTFOLIO]

I think Tesla's figures are with the one-foot rollout so in this kind of race expect to lose a fraction of a second on the 0-60

[@crustybasterd1352]

He just didn't floor the throttle properly on the first race I think. People aren't used to smashing the pedal to floor.

[@coolsquad7428]

the acceleration numbers where wrong on both of them as the durango hellcat does 3.3 seconds and 11.7 or 11.8 quarter miles while the model Y performance does it 3.5 seconds and around 11.7 and 11.8 seconds.

[@rickeybarnes6471]

State of charge was very low at 108 miles remaining which is roughly 35 to 40%. 12.5 is correct at that charge level.

[@juliangarcia2342]

@@coolsquad7428 My long range model y runs 12.78 in the quarter. Actual time run and that’s at 113mph.

[@LearningFast]

Track Mode in the Model Y is terrible for straight-line acceleration. It cools the battery off and severely limits acceleration over 40 mph. You also had just over 100 miles of range which is way less than half a battery. You were handicapping the Tesla for no reason. You should have navigated to a supercharger to heat the battery. That gains at least 50 HP on the top end. Track Mode is not for Drag racing with this vehicle.

[@chriscox7579]

Yea, no excuse either. There is a V3 Supercharger 10 minutes away from the site.

[@tvbi]

Noticed Edmunds has been racing the MY with low SOC all the times. I guess no paid press trips from Tesla 😂

[@LearningFast]

@@tvbi they setup these races to be entertaining not accurate.

[@akira28shima32]

@@LearningFastWouldn’t it be more entertaining if it’s fair?

[@srehmat02]

Severely handicapped the MYP (30ish% SOC and track mode on) and it still won I’m genuinely shocked 😮 full charge and track mode off and it wouldn’t even be close

[@coolsquad7428]

you get max power until you hit 70% then it goes down after 50% but the the reason why they did that so it can corner better sense the model Y likes to understeer alot so when cornering it will help it which it does but realistically the have similar power as the durango has a irl 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds and a quarter mile in like 11.7 seconds while the model Y is 3.4 seconds and 11.7 to 11.8 seconds.

[@bigdi77]

@@coolsquad7428can you show a video on KZbin of the myp hitting 60 in 3.4 that’s a lie even with rollout it’s 3.5 on a good day it’s a 3.7 to 60 suv

[@Dou6.2]

@@coolsquad7428 The Model Y is not hitting 60mph in 3.4 seconds. EVER

[@TecnamTwin]

​@@bigdi77Tried to post; KZbin deleted my comment. There's a Teslarati article about a Model Y P owner timing 3 runs and getting 0-60 mph times of 3.30, 3.43, and 3.40. Motortrend also ran a 12.0 sec. quarter mile though several others got 12.1 sec. as their fastest time.

[@therealsatan]

Makita mini van didn’t catch fire 🥳🎈

[@minso8164]

That Tesla is a beast. And such an incredible bargain. It's not just the purchase cost, but also the running cost.

[@rinbine2713]

Do you know EV6 GT result? It is 33.8 sec.

[@minso8164]

@@rinbine2713 that's a much more expensive and smaller car. It better be a bit quicker.

[@bigdi77]

@@minso8164 it cost 55k now so its not more expensive

[@ericship8383]

@@minso8164what are you smoking? The Kia ev6 gt costed 63k while this model y costed 68k so this Tesla is more expensive and is still slower than the Kia do your research man

[@vini_24]

@@ericship8383Hmmm I never knew $52k = $68k hmm..

[@EEDad401]

And this Model Y is the slower Tesla SUV. The Model X Plaid is insane. 2.1 sec 0-60. It's just hard to process the incredible performance of all these new electric vehicles.

[@lachlanB323]

Model X is massive though.

[@erupe1]

​@@lachlanB323Durango is massive, so what?

[@lachlanB323]

@@erupe1 Model X is bigger lol. Not the same class. Model X has crazy amounts of space. More akin to a van then a suv lol.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

The reason why it’ll get ahead of the Durango is because of the instant power and 4wd. But give the Durango enough time and it will catch up to it.

[@lachlanB323]

@@benjaminmatute9085 Not the model X plaid lmao. Durango stands zero chance of catching up. Plaid puts 1020HP till its speed limit of 163mph. Durango has a peak if like 700 hp and takes a while to hit that peak and changes gears etc.

[@joelarson6884]

Moving the power to 60/40 makes less power overall and a slower result

[@letdothisman1139]

Definitely correct

[@roypeterka]

I doubt they didn’t try a number of different power splits before they settled on 60/40

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

For the Model Y or Durango? Regardless why would it make less power overall…? Unless it’s only using one axle, it would be making the same power because of drivetrain loss

[@Teddy_M85]

Agreed... They should have tested it before they raced.

[@joelarson6884]

@@ayushmalpeddi2793 when the model Y is in 50/50 mode both motors are at full power. But when you switch it to 40/60 it doesn't increase the rear motor power, it decreases the front motor power. I think the model Y would've had a better time if they would have left it in 50/50 and kept the traction at -10

[@jmhellison]

I absolutely love everything about the Durango. Would love to own one. That engine note, ability to tow, and long road trips

[@veteransforequality7347]

Who the hell is paying over 100k for the dodge durango, even if it is the hellcat. Crazy

[@goatmaster3387]

You should do a Model X Plaid next.

[@vanessabooth3066]

The Plaid is The Fastest Tesla

[@goatmaster3387]

@vanessabooth3066 Correct, and the Hellcat Durango is as well. Kinda sad (for Dodge) a Y Performance is that close. IMO

[@loganrossignol]

Model Y launches faster if you do not have it in track mode. Track mode is for tracks, not drag racing.

[@madpuppet666]

thats definately what I like about my tesla - I can go fast every light, every straight, and not call any attention to myself.

[@rsbreeze]

Nobody pays attention to Teslas

[@Qkazam]

@@rsbreezethen why are you here if thats the case? 😭

[@tyr180plus9]

​@@rsbreezewhat car do you drive?

[@coolsquad7428]

the durango hellcat did great considering it is 1,100 lbs difference.

[@Qkazam]

@@coolsquad7428 also has 400 more hp 😭😭

[@American_Energy]

Update on pricing… Model Y Performance base price is now $54,490, and after a $7500 federal tax credit, $46,990… You could buy two of these for less than the HellCat… and it’s faster.

[@swervecity6256]

And ide still take the Durango.

[@hectorfuji]

Love the longterm Model Y content!

[@Unsmooth_Edwarda]

holy balls the model Y has a very low state of charge (~30%) and still won? Rematch with above 80% please

[@ajbid805]

Should definitely do about two or three races before switching drivers so they can try to brake later or try something different to win before giving up the seat for the next driver.

[@MidwestMotor]

Great idea!

[@The_Stanman]

They might be doing a few takes, and we just see the best ones they selected.

[@GuyNamedRonald]

Brake fade might be an issue. They’re braking very hard. After a couple of times they don’t work as well so it will throw off the results. Also most likely the cars are press cars or rentals and repeat runs will cause excess wear. With that said I agree multiple runs would be ideal.

[@danh7447]

@@The_Stanman Exactly what they do

[@TroyLTuttle]

Dear Edmunds. For any Tesla, don’t use track mode unless you’re hot lapping on an actual track. For drags, it over cools the battery, and reduces horsepower. Oh, and charge the car up before competition.

[@WFO.]

Just bought a ‘23 Durango Hellcat last weekend. Friend has a Tesla MYP and wants to race this weekend. You answered that race for me. But, I’d still take the Hellcat for the sounds it makes. Truly glorious!

[@jerodlewis1356]

Don’t know might be a driver race…

[@S8ER]

Check my page... this race was not expected given the numbers. 3.5 to 60 in the Durango is cake and mid 11s in the 1/4 with upper teen mph... I don't know what happened here but I suspect this was far from ideal conditions.

[@whatswrong598]

Pulley/tune/headers/E85 then race your friend again after this

[@bxi1547]

@@whatswrong598So a Hellcat needs all of that compete with a Tesla?

[@whatswrong598]

@@bxi1547 depends on which tesla and which hellcats, chargers and challengers weigh less so they’ll do better, but not off the line (unless at drag strip) since they’re RWD… plaids are way faster than 3/y performances so you’ll need almost 1100whp + to beat those

[@2be1withU]

I did not expect the Durango Hellcat to be 1000 lbs heavier than a battery laden Model Y. The the price difference, they should have replaced the Y with a model X plaid.

[@cavaseno]

You guys really have something with this format. Really good.

[@supremewhip]

The Durango’s shoulder bolsters look like 1980’s shoulder pads 😂

[@Anomize23]

Well it does have classic roots.

[@Albanianguy9]

Lol😂 Did he just say thanks Ozempic ????

[@endless8322]

The Durango has a heavy mass thing where the Tesla doesn’t have you know an extra 1000 pounds

[@Roddy451]

0:53 "Thanks Ozempic"...💣💣💥💥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wbwayne8887]

I want to see the EV6-GT vs this Tesla. More U-Drags please. All the U-Drags.

[@avis1978]

Look at the times. 33.8 vs 35.6 in the model Yp. 🤭 when the new ioniq 5N will come it will be even worse for Tesla.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@avis1978 By that time, Musk might even add a third motor to the Model 3 and Y-Performance models. You just never know. 😂

[@avis1978]

@@wbwayne8887 i can't see that happening. It will make it too expensive. And the range will drop as well.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@avis1978 Good point, however that always seems to be Musk's way. When the competition starts catching up or exceeding his cars, he doesn't allow it to happen for long. Case in point, Taycan vs Model S. However that's definitely a different $$$ level.

[@cybertruck4988]

Elon just offers a speed boost over the air update to make vehicles faster .

[@ranss]

i like to think they’re racing to the costco parking lot

[@mrstinky2421]

Sounds about right!

[@K03sport]

to the parking lot or through the parking lot to save a 50' of walking 🤔

[@Anvilarm07]

The Y won on braking and cornering? Wow! And the Y won the launch the second time. Love U-Drag.

[@michaelgimenez4032]

The launch was more dependant on the driver than the car to be honest.

[@dougpendleton1266]

I love these U-Drags!!!

[@SenseiCoops]

Going with the mismatched price points, next up is the Durango R/T vs Model X Plaid!

[@norwegianblue2017]

It was the Tesla's race to lose. An EV vs a 3-row SUV, would expect the EV to win every time.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

​@@norwegianblue2017 Model Y is also 3 row, Model X is proper 3 row

[@TomUlcak]

Dodge Durango R/T SUV takes 7.05 seconds to get to 60 mph from a standstill and 15.1 seconds for the quarter-mile, Tesla Model X Zero to 60 mph: 3.3 sec, Standing ¼-mile: 11.8 sec @ 116 mph. Why even bother?

[@dnegel9546]

@@TomUlcakhe was being sarcastic 😑

[@TomUlcak]

@@dnegel9546 oh... me: huk huk

[@Steven-xe6vs]

Now lets see EV6 GT vs MYP

[@avis1978]

The ev6 gt will humiliate the myp. I think that even the GV60 preference will be faster.

[@IReahpZz]

@@avis1978the myp runs 11s the gt will get it in the quarter but it has less tire prob going to struggle in the corners . Would love to see it .

[@bigdi77]

@@IReahpZzthe gt runs 11.3 and 60 in 3.3 3.2 if you have a draggy on the app you can see for yourself. Model y can’t beat it in 1/4 or to 60

[@IReahpZz]

@@bigdi77 re read the statement . It’s not the acceleration that I’m saying it wins at . The ev6 runs skinnier tires and has more mass to throw around . About 300-400 lbs heavier and less tire means it’s going to handle poorly compared to the y .

[@cybertruck4988]

Ev6 has charging infrastructure issues. Until it can use the Tesla network I don't recommend it.

[@anthonycicchetti7620]

Imagine if they raced the Tesla model-X (plaid) SUV (with 1020-horsepower)which is in the same price range as the Durango? They did NOT because it would NOT even be a competitive race. 😮

[@dogbots159]

Why was your Tesla so slow? Low battery? Were the tires not stock/correct psi? Did you try *without* track mode? Sure it’s quick in the corner, but the start is so slow compared to every performance y I’ve driven or watched online.

[@tvbi]

It had around a 30% SOC + track mode that’s why.

[@zackallen8759]

@@tvbi guess they wanted it to be a closer race, otherwise it would have been too wide for the camera to show lol.

[@kingshawn1857]

I would absolutely love to see a Shelby f150 single cab vs a trackhawk on u-drags

[@samaccurso]

Love that SRT engine sound, don't care if it lost.

[@hellkitty1014]

Same. Its more to the experience than sheer speed.

[@shou635]

@@hellkitty1014or just get someone to scream in your ear.

[@riznoob6065]

That's what losers say

[@truckingjamaicans5045]

​@@riznoob6065its big as hell too 😂

[@jeffspaulding5116]

So spend $40k extra to lose, but sounds better?

[@rafaelvidal8807]

This is awesome! Thank you!!!

[@Dark_Vader888]

I'm a hellcat mopar fanboy but there is no denying how amazing this Tesla is. I guess I'd get one when I'm able to move to full electric.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Friend of mine drank so much mopar koolaid that he’ll tell you if a hellcat lost a race, it was staged or something. He can’t accept a hellcat losing in any way

[@bxi1547]

@@PigglyWigglyDeluxeI drank the mopar kool aid years ago. Had a hellcat and Kept losing races to mid cars. EV is the way to go.

[@King.D_no.1]

​@@bxi1547fuck RC electric cars, i can't stand em at all

[@samuelbradley6898]

Bro the “Thanks Ozempic” had me rolling

[@chrism869]

Race no one suspected, next please do rs3 vs the new m2

[@chiboyife5456]

😊😊😊😊

[@michaelmansour6326]

I just bought a friends Model 3 Performance and have put my Durango Hellcat for sale. Crazy , right?! The Model 3 is faster (3.1s), has way more tech and cameras, and autopilot; BUT of course the Durango is more spacious, can tow a boat or trailer and sounds amazing (it's alive!). Tesla is way faster and whips everyone's butt and it's incognito. The Tesla was only $25k (2019) and the Hellcat selling for $85k. Plus I will save $5k /yr in fuel after paying the electric bill! If I like it, maybe a Plaid is next? No more premium fuel, oil changes, trans fluid, gears, pistons and so many moving parts to break. I have another older truck to tow with... Time will tell.

[@GotronFerret]

Easy choice. I've had both, I kept the Durango Hellcat. Way more fun. It triggers so many more senses and really takes the experience to a whole different level.

[@ryankassel5691]

Speed and acceleration are fun but they’re not everything!

[@aryub5851]

Durango should be a competitor of Model X

[@Investor_philips]

This one thing i hate about dodge, they make cars with tons of horsepower but will barely keep up with cars that make half or less horsepower

[@joelzylstra2971]

People don’t get it. Adding power doesn’t necessarily add performance. More often than not it’s grip that’s lacking and-with modern cars-all that extra weight. It’s why Hellcats get gapped by cars without the motor or reputation.

[@joem1382]

Chrysler making one trick ponies

[@Investor_philips]

@@joelzylstra2971 they should just adjust their power trains and a better suspension to put the power down effectively thats one thing I love about mustangs and Camaros even though I'm not really a fan of both cars they combine handling speed and burnouts effectively in one package I Know dodge is known for doing burnouts and straight line speed which they only deliver on prepped surface not on Normal street roads but they should try and work on their power trains to be able to put their power down at any given conditions and at the same time being a burnout beast.

[@waydephilpot3749]

Strong suit is def straight line speed, but unlike Camaro or Mustang, Dodge cars are more comfortable as dailys. It’s been proven many times on this channel that Dodge cars get embarrassed on the track and even drags on a non prepped surface with normal tires. Dodge offers a nice balance of speed, power and comfort.

[@Investor_philips]

@@waydephilpot3749 comfortable as a daily, I beg to differ, if I wanted a comfortable car as a daily I would go for a gt500 or a zl1 both cars are much better to drive and can handle corners on the streets they also put their power down more effectively than a dodge, meanwhile dodge on the other hand is more like a scorpion which will sting you if you Don't handle it well, they are much prone to understeer because they are heavy and their chassis can't compensate for their power

[@IReahpZz]

Don’t use track mode in a drag race ……. It slows it down these cars like heat for power 😂😂

[@roguedogx]

Before watching- good match up. I think the Tesla will win because the Durango only has a braking zone and top speed advantage, and I don't think it's enough. Let's see how wrong I am!

[@joelzylstra2971]

Every car guy on earth in unison these days: “Fast cars are gay, I only like loud cars.”

[@revelare_xvii6269]

EV ruined our craving for being the fastest.

[@joelzylstra2971]

@@revelare_xvii6269 well losing is shit am I right?

[@ktms1188]

With all the new Dodges, aren’t you supposed to NOT use the paddle shifts to get the best performance? I heard an engineer for Dodge do an interview, talking about how they have tested it a ton of times and found that even the very best circuit drivers still could not shift better than the automatic transmission control.

[@angrymuffinsb]

The Durango has an engine, a heart. It’ll get into your soul far more than the tesla

[@robertide5182]

It's not a heart. It's just a less efficient powertrain.

[@angrymuffinsb]

@@robertide5182 you’re entitled to your opinion, Greta. But all it’s doing is moving the point of emissions. The manufacturing process for EV’s is horrific. And what’s happening with those batteries when they reach end of their life? The imperiousness of EV drivers is so misplaced

[@LBrisk01]

@@angrymuffinsbbattery components and metals are 98% recyclable. The entire battery gets broken down and reused into a new battery. Try again

[@kouroshariane5045]

@@LBrisk01The vast majority of countries won’t be recycling ev batteries anytime soon 😂. Plus the damage has been done mining the lithium in the first place. Both aren’t great for the environment, but at least the ice cars are fun and engaging. Plus factories, semi trucks, and burning coal (such as for electricity generation) are worse problems that should be focused on first.

[@bxi1547]

No it has a big gas guzzler

[@Jose1again]

Track mode on the Tesla model Y and 3 does nothing for straight line acceleration, to get the most power out of the Tesla, 2 things affect it the most is 1 battery temp and 2 state of charge to get best straight line acceleration performance you want the battery to be preconditioned (navigate to the nearest supercharger) and for it be charged as much as possible.

[@deeka6192]

Should the Y just be in sport mode and not track mode for straight line races ?

[@Jose1again]

@@deeka6192 correct for straight line acceleration you just want it in sport mode and ideally preconditioned (navigation to a supercharger) to get the battery temp between 125°f-135°f. So the batteries can be at a max discharge rate outputting the most power to the motors Track mode cools the battery and motors to prep if for stresses and heat generated from actual track use cold battery less power the batteries can output.

[@granthenneke]

Track mode slows the Tesla down because it cools the battery.

[@teggy95se]

So does running it at like 40% SOC

[@LBrisk01]

Thats not true. It increases power usage to run the cooling system longer for the battery. Without the added cooling, the battery output, and thus the power, would be lower

[@granthenneke]

Then why does tesla heat up the battery before supercharging? Its to allow a higher rate of charging. This applies to discharging as well.@@LBrisk01

[@danielvandermerwe7921]

That guy in the first Tesla run didn’t know how to launch.. Model Y Performance has way more torque of the start. Somethings fishy

[@FXM3]

Next time try the Jeep Track Hawk.

[@twfinc6855]

almost exactly the same.. throttle house did a good comparison.

[@bxi1547]

The jeep would lose badly.

[@vee950]

Those guys don't know who to drive that Durango neither guy was aggressive enough with the Durango

[@By_Any_Means_Necessary]

Wow I thought for sure the durango had this in the bag with the extra power I could see if it was the model x but to get beat by the little baby brother y dang that's gotta be a tough pill for those mopar guys to swallow lol

[@banana1658]

Not really, ev torque is something else plus the fact that the battery puts the cg way lower in the Tesla, Makes sense especially in the turns. However the noise of a motor and the >5 min fill up will always prevent me from buying an EV.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Give it the 1/2 and the Durango will gap the MYP

[@jmhellison]

I'd rather the slower Durango if given the choice. Someone out there will always be faster, so it Doesn't matter in the end

[@swervecity6256]

@@jmhellisonlmao, you’re beyond correct. A civic with a damn laptop 🤣 nah ill enjoy my fire spitting 3 row suv

[@virtual-viking]

I think they deliberately handicapped the Tesla, so as not to humiliate the Durango. The fat lady getting ready to sing her requiem for the gas gusseling ICE.

[@javierferrer8898]

Amazing model Y , it can do so much more including camp mode which I love and got the self driving trial, I loved it. Price for such a fast car and many features is unbeatable.

[@bigcjm]

I think the Durango ran into issues with drag after it got past 60 mph. Which isn't uncommon in suvs period. This was like racing a m&m VS a Starburst. That extra power is meant to help compensate for the high speed drag.

[@updlate4756]

Yep. Not only does the Durango have a larger front surface area (A) than the Y, its drag coefficient (Cd) is .38 versus the Y's .23. Total drag is Cd*A*(Velocity^2 / 2). The faster the vehicles go, the more air resistance pushing back on the Durango, and that proportional difference increases as they go faster. Add that the Durango weighs about 1150 lbs more, which impacts energy needed to accelerate, and amount of braking power needed to slow down, and it makes that Durango's powertrain that much more impressive... They have slammed this same powertrain into the Challenger (Black Ghost) and it beat the model Y (without track package) time... albeit it's a smaller vehicle. It matched the model Y (with track package). It was also spinning the tires at the start of the race and at the turn around, which definitely hurt its time. Turns out this powertrain is so powerful, maintaining traction is the real challenge. The Durango is so heavy that it actually helps it maintain traction better than the Challenger which helps its time, but it just can't compete with the 1900 lb weight savings and better aero in the Challenger. The Black Ghost matched the model Y (with track pack) time, but it crossed the line traveling 14 mph faster. Not only did the loss of traction hurt its final time, it also hurt the speed it crossed the line at. The differential between it and the Y could have been even larger.

[@tboy911]

That spec Tesla model y performance can now be had for $58,130 including destination and is eligible for the $7500 federal tax credit. $50,630 is an insanely good deal for what you're getting.

[@jrwilson351]

And yet i still want a Durango. Its a suv we don't get in Australia love it.

[@HygienistDentist]

I own a model y performance and I think the Durango is absolutely beautiful. It's an amazing SUV.

[@whatswrong598]

@@HygienistDentistI think they both suck lol , both ugly… I’d take a track hawk though, already own an S plaid

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@whatswrong598 Durango sucks? You ok?

[@whatswrong598]

@@benjaminmatute9085 Yeah it sucks, You ok? Very disappointing performance here. I’d still take a track hawk, mainly because it looks better imo… would have to pulley/headers/E85 for it to not be slow though.

[@jmhellison]

​@whatswrong598 The Durango is a full size 5000lb SUV, what performance are you looking for? You aren't gonna beat most cars, ICE or EV, with an SUV

[@johndoughto]

Track mode for tesla is for track, not drag runs... it's slower most of the time. Feels better, but slower... but I guess trying to get them both "limited" the same. Tesla with no track mode would kept the lead for that short u turn run.

[@dadelives1]

At this point in life, the Cat won because of pure sound 😂

[@joshb.1118]

I ain't paying an extra $60k just for sound. May as well pipe it in (half the drag cars do anyhow).

[@ZoomZoom81]

Jonathan needs to do more hosting and narrating.. He's really funny and entertaining

[@lazzdk]

Trackmode is slower…

[@nothngspermanent]

makes me happy as a Model Y owner

[@rashad123us]

*The Model Y is a little over half the price of the Durango Hellcat (assuming you're paying MSRP) and it will need a fraction of the maintenance.*

[@hellkitty1014]

But Hellcat will hold value forever, especially once these types of ICE vehicles become nearly impossible to get.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Bro, the dodge is worth it for the price. Think about it, better top speed, better quality, more comfortable, and better handling. Quick in straight line isn’t everything, give the Durango a 1/2 mile and it’ll gap the Tesla more than the gaps between its panels. And it actually makes sound.

[@ShanerHulk]

Better quality 😂

[@hellkitty1014]

@@ShanerHulk Yes because only fanboys believe Teslas aren't the crapboxes they are.

[@ShanerHulk]

@@hellkitty1014 not a Fanboy or cult member by any means, would bet 💰 on any Tesla lasting longer then garbage stellantis product

[@jakey20022]

I would rather spend my money on the Durango hellcat. Any day of the week.

[@RunEmDownTony]

I haven't seen a Dodge win yet in U-Drags.

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

They seem really bad at this lol. WRX is also a punching bag...

[@bxi1547]

That’s because mopar is all about charging a lot of money for hp you can’t even use.

[@virtual-viking]

You need to love engine noise _a lot,_ to choose a car that's slower, more expensive to buy, way more expensive to drive and less practical all while it creates it's very own bubble of greenhouse gas emissions and holes in your eardrums.

[@rickeybarnes6471]

What 12.5 seconds in the quarter mile for the Tesla!😮 in recent test it was 11.8 and 0 to 60 in 3.7. Looks like track mode makes the Tesla slower or the surface is not ideal for getting the best times. Great race.

[@ChosenMJ]

That 11.8 was done before the software update and with default settings.

[@ModernDayMixtapes]

Track mode was slower because they set the power distribution to 40/60 from 50/50. All this did was reduce the power of the front motor.

[@MEngNeno]

@edmundscars you need to go again…

[@rickeybarnes6471]

@@ChosenMJ so software update has slowed down the times without track mode being engaged? I am still seeing times with people with the draggy device getting 11.8 to 12.1 and below 4 seconds without using track mode. Other people that engage track mode when doing quarter mile and to 60 are slower. Thanks for responding.

[@ChosenMJ]

@@rickeybarnes6471 No. The software update ADDED a track mode so you can change the power split distribution. They didn't need to use the track mode in the race and if they had of stayed with the sport mode then they would have ran the stock 11.8 or better time.

[@AnthonySanchez1]

You see who the more aggressive driver off the block is. The turn (different sizes and bases affected time) causes the Durango to lose time. I remain unconvinced that in a true drag race - straight away, the Durango doesn't consistently win.

[@tmoss1900]

Notice the time between races, it's even longer before editing took place. Reason for this is Tesla's have to cool down or programming protocol will reduce Tesla's horse power.

[@tanktheram]

And with all that time sitting, the Durangos Supercharger heat soaks, reducing power for the second run. Overall with the Y being significantly lighter, I'm impressed with the whale boat which is the Durango.😂

[@nabushdinosaure]

Not true. It takes several minutes of full power to overheat the battery on a 3/Y. You could do 10 U drag races back to back no issues. And I know one of my car is a 3 ... Runs 11.6s@119.5mph all day and I use it for AutoX several times a year, never had an issue overheating the car. It happens on track days if you run more than 10 min without cooling down

[@nabushdinosaure]

@@tanktheram The Tesla was at 30-35% battery, so was not having full power

[@ronin7645]

Completely false. You can run back to back without cooling many times.

[@CDubLDD]

I'd like to see a test with the Model 3 performance. I'm curious how it would compare the the EV6 GT's time

[@TomUlcak]

EV6 GT: 60 mph: 3.2 sec 100 mph: 8.0 sec 1/4-Mile: 11.6 sec @ 119 mph Tesla Model 3 performance: 0 - 60 mph in 3.1 seconds, 100 mph in 8.2 s, 1/4 mile in 11.5 s at 100.7 mph

[@joem1382]

Always go with the lightweight😉😉

[@jp23x]

Edmonds continues to make hellcat owners cry lol

[@taylorward2983]

Do you even like Hellcats? Lol

[@jp23x]

@@taylorward2983 I like challengers, but I think hellcats are absolutely pointless. Can't put the power to the ground.

[@taylorward2983]

@@jp23x they can if you know how to drive em, but they are heavy but they still are fast and are monsters on the road, 0-60 3.5 or 3.4 secs, the top speed is great, the Hellcats are very great aside from the Mopar community so I rlly see nothing wrong with Hellcats, that's why I love Hellcats, especially the Challenger Hellcat cuz the Challenger is my second fav car

[@chrisgayle1623]

I think sending 60% of the power rear wasn’t the best idea. 50/50 is what Tesla uses.

[@raheeb1]

Try that again with the battery at 90% and see how badly it’ll thrash that SRT further 😊

[@Sheer_Tazieh]

Gay

[@rolyreyes5097]

If your car sounds like a fly passing by, I don't want it. You can keep that smartphone on wheels lmao...

[@williamscott1229]

I haven't seen one of these videos (u-drags) where a SRT product actually won.

[@WynterK]

Oh well. Drive one and you wouldn’t care.

[@derrekc1743]

2020 Model Y? Why not use 2023?

[@Dirty_730]

That wouldn’t be fair haha

[@bigggmustang73]

Doing a 60/40 split gives the Tesla less power. I thought this was to rig the test but the Tesla still won...

[@malATX]

Its also at like 30% battery

[@andreknudsne7648]

funny that americans is mad about a midrange tesla is faster than an apartment.

[@chriswalter4632]

OMG that Rango sounds SO good!! I'd take the Rango all day.

[@gjones9842]

Hellcat any day everyday.

[@chop2093]

Durango any day. That Tesla is an appliance nobody will care about in 20 years.

[@Anomize23]

Will be outdated in no time.

[@abc123fhdi]

Model Y is supposed to do 0-60 in 3.5 so maybe the battery was depleted or old due to age or it being hot outside.

[@George_Shonia]

High Temperature is even better for tesla

[@abc123fhdi]

if the battery is too hot it will lose range and power, should be around 70-75, though the gas car will also lose power.@@George_Shonia

[@George_Shonia]

@@abc123fhdi ice cars lose power on hot days because of low oxygen density but this is not the case in EVs, but you can overheat your battery if you pushing its limits even in the mid winter... You've to just know your car better & you'll get optimum performance & satisfaction by it

[@S1EJ0]

Track mode also is using circa 10kW cooling everything down. So maybe losing 2 tenths. Would be nice for someone to prove this though

[@malATX]

It was at 30%

[@marcocarapia7724]

Model Y Performance NOT available with a third row. Not even if you want to pay more for it! Going with a used Model X Performance P100D with Ludicrous Mode; 6 seater!

[@userofsharingan]

You can get a 2023 model Y performance for 55,000 now. 45,000 after incentives. Less than half the price

[@Teddy_M85]

Facts... That's a lot more money just for the sound.

[@userofsharingan]

@@Teddy_M85 imagine paying 100k for a dodge 😂

[@rmp5s]

"Thanks, Ozympic!" 🤣

[@IKnewMickey]

Johnathon in Race 1 drove the Durango very well. Read anything you want into that.

[@S8ER]

His results (assuming they were the best results) are really really bad so I wouldn’t give him too much credit here.

[@ShanerHulk]

What was the State of charge?

[@rickeybarnes6471]

Around 30%

[@rare_wubbox360]

Great to see that real power wins.. Why on eart would anyone buy the noisy, polluting, expensive, slow piece of crap? Interesting to see the salesnumbers of these two going forward👍🇳🇴

[@K03sport]

why would anyone buy a Volvo my Scandinavian friend? Tesla are ok, but still not where they need to be. They need to slow production several cars an hour and get their assembly straight. I'm not totally sold on Tesla just yet and Elon isn't helping matters either...

[@mcfero1]

Found the guy with a mental disorder

[@elijahkennedy5272]

Thanks Ozempic is crazy

[@joelzylstra2971]

They should have a race to see who has better panel gaps! 😂

[@Soh90]

Don’t think the Dodge would fare too well there either. And don’t get me started on a reliability race. I have 3 coworkers with Durango’s and literally all three have suffered some sort of either catastrophic transmission issue or engine issue 😂

[@joelzylstra2971]

@@Soh90 from Teslas reputation I would guess it would be a really good race! 😂

[@Soh90]

@@joelzylstra2971 if my options were Tesla or Dodge, I’d dodge the Dodge and get a Tesla

[@joelzylstra2971]

@@Soh90 I would too.

[@xeritin]

Durango is much heavier and that plays a big role!

[@jpateka]

Who the hell in their right mind would pay $100,000+ for a Dodge??

[@eloneatmyshorts]

All those boys getting loans at 19% APR 😂

[@Investor_philips]

Americans

[@DS22723]

They don't buy them, they rent them, then sliding these land yatch around on the takeover filming on Instagram and crashing into curbs and trees 😂😂😂

[@bikingD]

Someone that can afford a $100,000 vehicle.

[@CM-cw8fe]

@@Investor_philips you mean roughly 14% of Americans lol

[@2be1withU]

It's a dual motor. Front and back. It's not split front to back so leave the power spllit to factory setting to get the full power from both motor independently.