UCI Points Explained | GCN's Guide To Road Racing In 2019

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@gcn
@gcn 5 жыл бұрын
Let us know how this has helped you!
@metalbrother2671
@metalbrother2671 5 жыл бұрын
Do you also get points/day for wearing the worldchampion jearsey?
@mscbijles1256
@mscbijles1256 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it confused me a bit. Did the name of the World Tour change? Otherwise, I can't figure out why the world tour teams were only referred to as "uci teams", whereas I'd think all professional teams are uci teams.
@Drzhounder
@Drzhounder 5 жыл бұрын
It has helped me understand that the UCI has been around too long and have muddied the scoring waters very well.
@JollyGiant0
@JollyGiant0 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I had no idea it was so complicated. Very interesting video thank you.
@arifazhari7598
@arifazhari7598 5 жыл бұрын
Alright gcn "point" taken. Love the way olie say it, it does make a "point". The "point" is now clear for us to understand UCI "point" system. Cheers
@MonkeyKing1969
@MonkeyKing1969 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a follow-up where you take a couple of the top teams and individuals and show where they got all their points from over the last season??
@DylanJohnsonCycling
@DylanJohnsonCycling 5 жыл бұрын
I hear mtb and cx guys talking about UCI points a lot but less so road for whatever reason. Thanks for this video!
@gcn
@gcn 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dylan
@JulienDeneuville
@JulienDeneuville 5 жыл бұрын
CX guys don't bother: MVDP wins anyway ;)
@MrBoggins1234
@MrBoggins1234 5 жыл бұрын
Had no idea, so thanks for this it has helped. Great to show the actual final standings for riders, teams and nations last year and narrating that a bit? Who gained and who lost as a result of points last year etc Just a thought!
@Peter-om1zj
@Peter-om1zj 5 жыл бұрын
ugh UCI !! The point of points (pardon the pun) should be to help the fan follow the sport. PERIOD. Cycling needs to grow and create more and new interest, especially with its current team business model. Tennis does this wonderfully, and everybody follows and knows every player's ranking. Rankings are always shown, talked about, and competed for. It brings excitement to events, adds weight when a player has to defend or can grab a lot of points, and helps generate interest in players working their way up the rankings. In cycling, FANS don't care about points. And any changes to the system should be to help the fans, thus helping cycling. Two different rankings ? Seems confusing. In tennis everyone knows a grandslam is 2000pnts, a masters 1000, theyre even called a masters 1000 series, 500, or 250 ... Cycling, get this right !!!
@valleyflaneur
@valleyflaneur 5 жыл бұрын
Really useful to have this explained for the men's points - I have to say, though, women's racing deserves more than 'same principle but different numbers'. It would be worth taking the time to set out the values for different women's races -esp since they often get less attention.
@paulbradford6475
@paulbradford6475 3 жыл бұрын
This helped. Now do a video on where the various teams stand in international rankings. For instance, how does a first division team differ from a third division outfit? Or, how many divisions are there? And so on.
@ondrastehlikll.1948
@ondrastehlikll.1948 5 жыл бұрын
Finally an amazing video! Waited for something like this for quite a while.
@paulkramer2893
@paulkramer2893 5 жыл бұрын
As a dutch guy, I really enjoyed the way you said omloop het dagblad :)
@jeffreywilliams3646
@jeffreywilliams3646 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ollie. I never knew there was a point to the uci.
@hughbriz
@hughbriz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - found that very useful. I think the UCI points for TdF don't mean it's a harder race interns of the course - just harder to win because all the best GC riders try to be there on top form
@stevecarpenter7462
@stevecarpenter7462 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Cleared some muddied waters for me at least. Keep up the splendid work!
@emlong68
@emlong68 3 жыл бұрын
For us beginning followers....thank you
@Ewane
@Ewane 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I would like to see both the points and World Tour simplified
@LukaCordedda
@LukaCordedda 5 жыл бұрын
It would make more sense if the uci resets the points at the start of each season and then they have an award for the winner of each category based off the points in which they earned in that given year. They could also incorporate something like a leader's jersey so that people know who is leading that category
@larsmunch4536
@larsmunch4536 5 жыл бұрын
For the women they have something rather similar to what you are suggesting (maybe not exactly the same), so it should be possible to make it for the men as well.
@patricksullivan4732
@patricksullivan4732 5 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the riders who slay themselves on the front for the first 100k or so setting tempo for the team. Hard to come by points that way. Hopefully directors throw contracts at all-day power beasts even if they are low on points.
@jesusenriqueriveratellez531
@jesusenriqueriveratellez531 5 жыл бұрын
Oscar, oscar, oscar, the best all rounder gcn rider!!!!!!!!
@andreaonyoutube9560
@andreaonyoutube9560 5 жыл бұрын
Love that you're streaming the women's races. ✌🏻
@gcn
@gcn 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Andrea, we're excited about it too!
@AnthonyRochester
@AnthonyRochester 5 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the rainbow jersey go to the rider with the most UCI points? Then fans will want to keep track of the points tally, and it won't be decided by a single race.
@Lars3
@Lars3 5 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I think there used to be a men’s road race World Cup that featured a special leaders jersey. It wasn’t the same as the rainbow jersey of WC, but it came close to satisfying the need to identify the highest ranked rider at the time.
@richaw6689
@richaw6689 5 жыл бұрын
Ollie, that was useful and interesting mate!
@markwilliams7078
@markwilliams7078 5 жыл бұрын
Useful & good call to walk through the detail. would have been good to include say the 2018 final rankings to give context on the magnitude of points individual/teams accrue.
@vascoamaralgrilo
@vascoamaralgrilo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I believe it would be better for the audience and the business if the leaders of the one-day ranking and stage-race ranking had a different jersey (with a certain sponsor).
@mcorbett01
@mcorbett01 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Bloody ‘ell, it’s complicated!
@gunthertoastbrot3738
@gunthertoastbrot3738 5 жыл бұрын
Isn´t it unfair for the other two Grand Tours, that the TdF is more valueble? It decreases the gap between those tours even more. In Germany for example the TdF is televised on public Broadcasting channels, whereas the Giro and the Vuelta only can be watched on Eurosport. And in my opinion the french mountains aren´t harder as the italian ones, and the Vuelta has yearly more summit finishes as the Tour. The spanish one also has less sprint stages, which makes exciting breakaway stages happen more often and days with GC changes could come more frequently. And the mountains are not divided into two three-day-blocks, but they are very well seperated between the three weeks.
@Ewane
@Ewane 5 жыл бұрын
I like Toastbrot personally I think it factors in that the Tour De France is a) the biggest cycling race in the world and b) attracts the highest quality of field
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 5 жыл бұрын
A good introduction. Please analyze in depth all the points earned by different teams. Also: are you sure about Sagan -- surely he would score lots of points in the TdF?
@andreaonyoutube9560
@andreaonyoutube9560 5 жыл бұрын
And thanks for the points/rule breakdown :)
@carsonsmith8362
@carsonsmith8362 5 жыл бұрын
Cycling noob here! I was just wondering why riders like Egan Bernal and Juliane Alaphilippe aren’t riding in La Vuelta and weren’t in the Giro. If I’m not mistaken, there are a lot of UCI points there. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
@danmathis4046
@danmathis4046 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks! Now, 300 pts for AToC!! Minor event? Not encouraging for US race fans!!!
@kevinreilly51
@kevinreilly51 4 жыл бұрын
This comment did not age well...
@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles
@sandrochiavaroBeerCircles 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Are all pros clear about all the points strategies? Seams s got confusing and a lot to remember. Great work Ollie
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
I think with the 'relegation' of the two lowest UCI world tour teams this year, we may see some interesting races within races and tactical decisions made to score points rather than overall results.
@syedfahadbilal
@syedfahadbilal 4 жыл бұрын
tell us about how you get various jerseys and their benefits
@phillwhitlam6999
@phillwhitlam6999 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video Ollie. Never really understood how the scores were worked out. Is there a list of the final scores for each rider or team you can access easily?
@lukepowell1201
@lukepowell1201 5 жыл бұрын
This helped me understand a lot, but it also has me kind of torn. Clearly the UCI is not afraid to be controversial because there are so many things to disagree on in a system this complicated. On the one hand it's good that there are incentives for different strengths and different types of riders and races, but on the other hand I struggle to see how you spread the sport to a wider audience with the system being so complicated. I wonder if it would make more sense to have separate leagues for different types of racing. A league for crits, a league for the classics, a league for stage races et. ... . who knows?
@lucasb.3236
@lucasb.3236 5 жыл бұрын
Suuuuuper good video!
@surajmallick1807
@surajmallick1807 5 жыл бұрын
Yes very helpful video ..still I wanna ask ..how much uci points do i needed to participate in Olympics (2020) road racing & single time trail race and for triathlon race ...just needed for knowledge pls. .tell.me.
@TheCatwhisper
@TheCatwhisper 5 жыл бұрын
Great ! more like this.
@pbyoder94
@pbyoder94 5 жыл бұрын
Where is their video for yesterday. The one about riding in a pace line?
@stevepiscina9995
@stevepiscina9995 5 жыл бұрын
Where can you get to see the points month by month - could be a regular feature on the racing channel ?
@saintupid7034
@saintupid7034 2 жыл бұрын
Personally the fact that i had to search this means its a bad model, as a fan thats want to know more about a sport it needs to be not complicated as this because we tend to get excited by the great cyclists at first (stages are too complicated when you are new to the pro scene) and we dont have a calendar for UCI races as a casual follower. And for a guy like, a ranking like in tennis would be really a goos way to track my favorite cyclists
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 5 жыл бұрын
This is like a door for analytics to come into cycling. Here comes WAR and Corsi.
@jaysonf356
@jaysonf356 5 жыл бұрын
for the points for the olympic medals, do those only count for year of the olympics? or do you get them for every year you're holding that title (aka GVA still the road race champion thus gets 600 pts per year)?
@Philip_
@Philip_ 5 жыл бұрын
So, how many points did G get last year at Le Tour? 1,000 for the win 240 for two stage wins How many for a 2nd place on a stage? 275 for 11 days in the Yellow Jersey How many for a 3rd place on a stage? (x2) Were there any points for the TTT? Team Sky came 2nd, so do all of their riders get the 2nd place UCI points offering?
@michaelustoehr
@michaelustoehr 5 жыл бұрын
Plus a few more for wearing the yellow jersey, no?
@Philip_
@Philip_ 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Stoehr ^^ 4th row down
@michaelustoehr
@michaelustoehr 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, now I see it, good one!
@Midnight_Foxx
@Midnight_Foxx 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, how exactly do you enter a UCI race
@jackhammer40k_
@jackhammer40k_ 5 жыл бұрын
Are the points won in sprints and climbs in stage races UCI points? Are there points in these classifications up for grabs for 2nd or 3rd places?
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
EatRideGrow in UCI races they are yes 👍🏼
@carsonmcquarrie8658
@carsonmcquarrie8658 5 жыл бұрын
How many points are needed to be picked up by a pro continental team or world tour team?
@allhaillofty1
@allhaillofty1 5 жыл бұрын
you've got to feel bad about that 1 team that has 1 member entered in a race. not only a tough race but he will have noone to talk too. is there a support group for these riders?
@simondavies5590
@simondavies5590 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching the Tour Down Under and there was reference to the leaders possibly getting bonus points - can you explain what these might be for? Many thx indeed
@davidchona440
@davidchona440 3 жыл бұрын
Youve talked about how points work but you haven’t talked about how to start getting your first points, can you please explain?
@sj6656
@sj6656 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna know who has taken the most points of all time from a Stage Race. I.e. who's won the Tour and spent the most days in yellow? Who can claim most UCI Points accumulated in 1 race?
@ericmergen4637
@ericmergen4637 5 жыл бұрын
So is a rider's number based on their points, or is it something else?
@chrismadden9126
@chrismadden9126 5 жыл бұрын
Can yoy explain the GC points system? Confusing to someone who is new to the sport
@Wildschwein_Jaeger
@Wildschwein_Jaeger 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon...
@sjefvanzwet3181
@sjefvanzwet3181 5 жыл бұрын
Can the public track the standing in the points race during the season?
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
Sjef van Zwet they will be published by the UCI and posted on their site. We will also report in the news show on mondays, so you can find out there 👍🏼
@crunchied8
@crunchied8 4 жыл бұрын
how can a team get points since there is only 16 world tour teams all the way down to 60 get points confuse about that
@bmccall30
@bmccall30 5 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant! Great information we had not bothered to learn before but are now glad we know. A few comments asked about how to see points so I did a look up: www.uci.org/road/rankings
@giuseppedeguglielmo3598
@giuseppedeguglielmo3598 5 жыл бұрын
this regulation makes sure that the licenses always remain at the same teams ... how does a team that don't have the license to make more points than one has?
@DougMorley1
@DougMorley1 5 жыл бұрын
Why should a Tour De France win result in more points than either of the other grand tours when they can be just as difficult and hard, if not more so than the Tour?
@matthewsully4565
@matthewsully4565 5 жыл бұрын
Does the UCI publish the points tally anywhere online?... Would be good to watch the relegation battle towards the end of this year. And what a shite situation for teams trying to get sponsorship... Relegation :-(
@eddymaddix1786
@eddymaddix1786 5 жыл бұрын
Can't find actual UCI list but this looks useful: www.procyclingstats.com/rankings/me/world-ranking/individual
@bmccall30
@bmccall30 5 жыл бұрын
Use this too: www.uci.org/road/rankings
@spankofudgenudger9667
@spankofudgenudger9667 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the links... but im a bit confused. Shouldn't all of the points have reset for the start of this season? So everyone goes to 0pts on Jan 1st 2019... if anyone could explain that would be great
@eddymaddix1786
@eddymaddix1786 5 жыл бұрын
@@spankofudgenudger9667 The procycling page says "Summation of PCS points over a 12-month + 2 weeks overlap period. Races are counted once. After the finish of a stage, the corresponding stage of the previous edition is excluded." So it is a rolling total, moving forward as each race comes around in the new year. This type of system is used in many sports, e.g. football, golf, tennis
@shaungreen6967
@shaungreen6967 5 жыл бұрын
'Fewer points' Ollie, rather than 'less'. :-)
@siraphoppitpreecha4097
@siraphoppitpreecha4097 3 жыл бұрын
How does a pro team get into world tour level?
@markmitchenall5948
@markmitchenall5948 5 жыл бұрын
How about track?
@ariffau
@ariffau 5 жыл бұрын
Just fried my brain
@johneden2841
@johneden2841 5 жыл бұрын
I am not into the Facebook. Is there another way to watch the races? Thanks.
@diniehilmi6285
@diniehilmi6285 5 жыл бұрын
If its under UCI i believe they stream it on their KZbin page
@fatihkale1007
@fatihkale1007 3 жыл бұрын
Does the only gc winners get the points? Don't green jersey winner on tdf get any points?
@fatihkale1007
@fatihkale1007 3 жыл бұрын
Okay i just had to wait for the end of video to get my answer :)
@seanmerritt9764
@seanmerritt9764 5 жыл бұрын
So who has scored the points and many points for the tour de France ?
@lhxc4494
@lhxc4494 5 жыл бұрын
Hi
@andycarr5405
@andycarr5405 5 жыл бұрын
Which races have the fewest points?
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 5 жыл бұрын
This is how you know there is an English bias in cycling. First Sagan is disqualified because an end of his career Englishmen crashes out, now they turn everything into the premier league. Not only that this will encourage trade team mates to support their leader in the Olympics and world championships, if they were not doing this already.
@yakekaj
@yakekaj 5 жыл бұрын
G is Welsh and Cavandish is from The Isle of Man....
@Marco-wt2cj
@Marco-wt2cj 5 жыл бұрын
the gt should all get the same points...
@personthatexists3368
@personthatexists3368 5 жыл бұрын
You can't do anything these days without some crowd trying to foist a loyalty card upon you and demanding that you accumulate points.
@CulturalCats
@CulturalCats 5 жыл бұрын
u wot mate, tour down under is the biggest race of the season. bloody deserves 1500 points *eeeassssyy*
@michaelustoehr
@michaelustoehr 5 жыл бұрын
Ollie, it is "fewer" points, not "less" points, with your nice british accent, you should know that.
@meganelisabethcook
@meganelisabethcook 5 жыл бұрын
GCN does math... and it was right, I think.
@MarkBrimPhoto
@MarkBrimPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
So points haven't existed before?? (Sorry I'm new)
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
They have, but for 2019 there are lots of changes and even before the changes i felt it was something that wasn't well communicated or widely understood.👍 Hope this helps
@MarkBrimPhoto
@MarkBrimPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
@@OllieBridgewood well communicated. This stuff is really helpful for people like me to whom professional cycling is quite the mystery. More please!
@davepratt9909
@davepratt9909 5 жыл бұрын
I see why the had the PhD do this video.
@saidmk6755
@saidmk6755 4 жыл бұрын
but i dont understand how riders lose points ??
@BenBrawn
@BenBrawn 5 жыл бұрын
Punching above our weight are we? Hold me beer! Actually, they should get extra points, danger points, for having to deal with the drivers and car culture we have here.
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to the TDU! I love that race! It's great that in a sport often dominated by tradition and heritage that a relatively new race is on an equal points footing as old and well established races like the dauphine and paris nice. 👍
@matthewsully4565
@matthewsully4565 5 жыл бұрын
Just found the UCI points table for 2019. Right now in 3rd place is Simon Yates!!!!... As far as I can recall... He has not raced yet in 2019????.... And he is coming 3rd. To me this just goes to show the level of professionalism within the UCI. It does feel like a bunch of amateurs run the show ... And this is indicative of tardiness and just crap staff... IMHO.
@larsmunch4536
@larsmunch4536 5 жыл бұрын
If the points are reset at new year, you are right, but if it like the world ranking in tennis, where points are valid for one year = 365 or 366 days, most of the points from 2018 are still valid, and in that case it can make sense. Also see eddy maddix' answer to Spanko Fudgenudger above (under Matthew Sully's question).
@evanreeves5966
@evanreeves5966 5 жыл бұрын
Is the UCI run by dinosaurs? I feel like cycling is going more and more local. Back your local events!
@bugboy152000
@bugboy152000 5 жыл бұрын
How many points could team #GCN rack up!
@reepsaag
@reepsaag 5 жыл бұрын
Tour is overrated to Vuelta and Giro. All 3 grandtours deserve equal points for grabs!!!
@timvanlathem9945
@timvanlathem9945 5 жыл бұрын
is Spain on top of the nation ranking? I thought it was Belgium
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
tim Vanlathem at the time of filming it was Spain 👍🏼
@TheDfsgdfgdg
@TheDfsgdfgdg 5 жыл бұрын
Omloop not well established? Tough crowd at the GCN office.
@a3aan__uit389
@a3aan__uit389 5 жыл бұрын
What is omloop?
@mattparsons6487
@mattparsons6487 5 жыл бұрын
Wish they’d cut football’s budget by 99 % and make all sports have equal money
@bigring6424
@bigring6424 5 жыл бұрын
So you're going to give football ticket revenue to cyclists? You think the football fans would be willing to pay for a sport they aren't watching?
@shamr0ck
@shamr0ck 5 жыл бұрын
Irish accent. Really?
@OllieBridgewood
@OllieBridgewood 5 жыл бұрын
Sean kelly reference.
@AaronGoodTimes
@AaronGoodTimes 5 жыл бұрын
Cycling needs to drop the nationalistic element.
@andycarr5405
@andycarr5405 5 жыл бұрын
Ne estu ilo Because I identify more closely with laminate flooring, artillery and jellybeans than I do with the place I grew up.
@jakeroe1333
@jakeroe1333 5 жыл бұрын
This guys so dull 😴
@paulbradford6475
@paulbradford6475 3 жыл бұрын
This helped. Now do a video on where the various teams stand in international rankings. For instance, how does a first division team differ from a third division outfit? Or, how many divisions are there? And so on.
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