UDES 15/16 Review/Guide, In-Depth Look at Two Different Playstyles

I review the UDES 15/16, a tier 10 Swedish medium tank in World of Tanks (WoT), with replays of Westfield and Murovanka battles.
The Swedish mediums support 2 different playstyles: ridge fighting and camo sniping. The UDES 15/16 excels at both thanks to a rare blend of bouncy armor and superb camouflage.
Strengths and Weaknesses
Superb camo (over 36 with BIA and Camo)
Excellent alpha (440)
Upper frontal hull armor is angled, can bounce shells of 150mm or lower
Flat profile
High-caliber gun (120mm) may create more greater-than-3x overmatch opportunities
Side skirts provide protection against HE/HESH/HEAT
Poor top speed (50)
Mediocre silver APCR penetration (254)
Below average view range (390)
APCR has below-average velocity (1000) but it's still functional
Thin armor, susceptible to HE / arty
Recommended Equipment
1. Optics
2. VStab
3. Rammer
This video is part of my "Road to Unicum" series in which I share what I learned as I progressed towards account Unicum rating (top 1%) with silver ammo only. I talk through how I'm reading the battle as it unfolds and discuss key decisions and mistakes. My hope is that these videos meaningfully help players improve their gameplay.
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[@davelenzi3698]

Here's some tank nerding for you: Two basic types of main gun rounds - kinetic and explosive. Kinetic - APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot - say it five times fast, that's what APCR gets to be when it grows up) is the modern kinetic kill round used by (virtually all of NATO uses some variant of the Rheinmetal 120mm smooth bore - so, there's an in game tie in). Kinetic kills work through direct penetration and spalling, generally. Spalling, in simple terms, is fragmentation off the back side of an armor plate from penetration/impact. When a "silver bullet" (APFSDS) round hits, all the armor in front of the penetrator either ends up as spall/fragmentation in the crew compartment or as liquefied metal in addition to the now blazing hot metal rod the size of your forearm on its way through. Typically used only for tanks, it's a bit of a waste to shoot APFSDS at lightly armored or soft skinned vehicles. HEAT - High Explosive, Anti-Tank. The work horse round for tanks, and appropriate for use on a variety of vehicle and armor types. The HEAT projectile looks a lot like a can of coffee with a pole sticking out the front. The "coffee can" is the shaped charge (HEAT warhead) that creates a focused explosive jet. The charge requires stand off to form the jet prior to contact with the armor/target and the rod on the front is the fusing mechanism that ensures this. APFSDS will typically out penetrate HEAT at "normal" combat ranges. APFSDS also tends to be less sensitive to reactive and composite armor. HEAT projectile performance, however, is insensitive to velocity (whereas APFSDS depends on it). Proximity fused and variable-time fused HE/HEAT are available. HE, HESH/HEP - High Explosive, High Explosive Squash Head / High Explosive Plastic are usually used in an infantry support role. They are ideal for use against fortifications and obstacles, or massed infantry. They also work well against supply dumps and soft skinned vehicles. This is much more typical, the last few decades, for the former Eatern Bloc countries. This is generally not considered for anti-armor use, contrary to how it's depicted in game. Most Western nations will use one of the two to three machineguns mounted on their tank to address these types of targets. HE and HESH/HEP differ primarily in how they are fused - HEP/HESH are fused at the rear and the rounds "squashes" or deforms against the target before detonation for greater effect.

[@davelenzi3698]

@@K1ngKrunch - it's an interesting concept, for sure. It might be a bit too much of a stretch on the game's engine to implement the full complexity such an idea could entail. The trade offs would be interesting though. For a simplified system aimed at game balance, change the current prammo to give enhanced pen at the cost of damage. Then it's a choice - the security of a more likely pen versus the higher damage and lower reliability of "standard" ammo.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@K1ngKrunch You mean they should also factor in overpenetrations?

[@OlujaDoTokija]

@@davelenzi3698 HESH and HEP was used against armoured vehicles in the cold war. The FV4005 was designed to counter the Soviet IS-3 and guess what, the 183mm L4 gun it used was only capable of firing HESH rounds. The L4 was tested in live fire trials against a Centurion and a Conqueror. In 2 shots, the gun blew the turret clean off the Centurion and split the mantlet of the Conqueror in half.

[@Dagger4]

@@OlujaDoTokija - many a WoT HESH lover has been quick to point that out whenever balance changes are suggested to the "death star" - though that's a more a console problem than a PC problem. It's always fascinating to look at historical vehicle design and how certain features converged/diverged across nations. Naturally, there's a reason modern MBTs don't sport such large bore cannons ("our" own attempts with a 152mm were a sort of final straw, though the CEV did use 160 HEP for obstacle clearance) and often don't even carry HE/HEP in the rack - simply not efficient/practical as the focus of the tanks changed.

[@OlujaDoTokija]

@@Dagger4 Guess what? The ingame vehicles aren't modern MBTs and I was just pointing out that the guy was spreading misinformation.

[@marcelgosselin7287]

Would love to see the UDES 16

[@Hreimr]

Me too ;)

[@re2590]

Nice to see someone not spamming gold, fully kitted out with bond equipment, crew boosters and premium consumables. Which Is why I enjoy watching this guy play. Good player not abusing the game like other try hards do. Sure some tanks need gold ammo vs their turrets/or tank itself. But not driving around tier 4-7 spamming 100% premium ammo!

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

Great video. I do not have plan to play Swedish mediums any time soon, but I always learn how to play on certain map or in certain situation of your videos.

[@reinholdw1800]

Another great, informative video. Thanks again. And, yes, please do the tier IX.

[@richarddyson4380]

Yes please for the tier 9 review! Great video-as always!

[@georgkilianbraunig5877]

the overmatch mechanic is such a kick in the face for the swedish mediums...

[@retro61]

ofc I'd like to see you play the tier 9! Currently, working my way through the mountain of XP needed to unlock it. But don't mind so much now as, with the less punishing MM at tier 8 (even for platoons :O ), I'm enjoying the 14/5...

[@notna4081]

once i got the t9 i rarely played the t8... it feels so good to be able to bounce stuff (as long as it dont overmatch) same goes for the tank detroyers, the t9 can bounce stuff!! but i still play the t8 because of its insane camo and its ability to elevate itself over a wall or rigde and raise the gun and be able to drop down. only swede that can do that

[@jonniiinferno9098]

awesome quality content - as always - Thanks Taugrim !!!

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

Murovanka is made for these close battles, I have had quite a few white knuckle close calls on it. Great games. I'm on the Leo and I hate it... 9 times out of 10 trying to trade with that 300 alpha gun means you're gunna get hit while your shot tries to dig a hole to china. I've had a number of instances where my gun literally will not hit the target and I get snapped repeatedly from full hp to dead with no damage dealt.

[@fredbecker607]

When I play arty, I like the people that follow your advice and knock down trees. Watch for tree fall and click...it feels so dirty and so good. When playing TD's, I look at arty long up before knocking over trees etc..

[@taugrim]

It's a risk to knock over trees, but if you do it early enough, I've found it to be relatively safe. And I try not to just knock over 1 tree and sit there - that's too obvious.

[@MarcParisTV]

based on my personal experience UDES 15/16 greatest nemesis is artillery. I was hit by 1k arty shot on a not so rare base. But I love this tank..:)

[@taugrim]

Agreed. I was sooooo excited during the countdown on Westfield because I knew I could go northwest to ridge fight. I tend to attract a lot of attention from enemy arties and if there were 2-3 arties, heck even 1, I would think long and hard before going up top to brawl as there is no meaningful hard cover from arty and I'd be constantly spotted due to proximity.

[@MarcParisTV]

@@taugrim I guess we had similar experiences...:) On the other hand, Udes 15/16 could be very resilient. Here is one of my videos on serene coast with Udes 15/16 kzbin.info/www/bejne/omK0i3l_n9SAp6s This position is pretty good, even with ennemy arty. After I was less succesful in full tier X and versus high caliber gun (obj 268-4) that was able to overmatch udes upper hull.

[@Apoestasis]

My mans Taugrim with the UNDERHOOKS level of quality as always.

[@latvius7600]

Yes tier 9 review! Have heard bad things about it.

[@pavlatoar]

thanx. Nice video and very informative commentary. I would appreciate tier IX review.

[@faenrir11]

I'd love to see the tier 9 review actually

[@Demothones]

I just bought my Conway and I really like it. The stock gun is actually better for my play style than the top gun. The stock engine is painful but I just got the middle engine and it is a noticeable improvement. The HESH on the Charioteer is unreliable and the stock gun on this does not have HESH so I can’t comment on that but the gold rounds on the stock gun pack 320 pen. I only carry five of them for those situations where reliable pen vs Tier 10 armor is vital. I like the Charioteer and I have kept it for tournaments where I need Tier 8 tanks. The problem is that is is incredibly fragile. If my gunner sneezes too hard it will ammo rack me and damage the engine.

[@CptSpears007]

Great job as always buddy

[@FlaviaPitariu]

Heat is not a kinetic penetrator, it's a thermal penetration via molten jet

[@matsostby2258]

would love to see the tier 9 med, UDES 15 :) Also, love your videoes :D

[@nebojsakmezic9763]

Very nice vid again. Two remarks: 1. What you said about that arty not retreating absolutely true. Happened to me more times than it should, notice our clicker getting to far away from the team, ping the map and tell him to back up, he doesnt and them 5 mins later when he gets picked off by a pack of lights rushing a flank: "omg retard team, go play hello kitty" 2. HESH concerning, I think its much better than heat as a premium shell. Guns that usually have considerable hesh alfa are big in calibre and people playing them are usually camping back for those 1/10 shots when you will pen something for full hp so they can be avoided. Also, smaller guns that use hesh dont have enough punch for that he to do anything meaningful. And finally, because it has low pen, 183 pushed me to the limit in looking for weakspots and aiming in. Because I want those big numbers, if I wanted splashes I would have play arty :)

[@taugrim]

Agree 100% on HESH - it's very powerful (overpowered) for high-caliber guns, because even on non-pens the damage is quite meaningful, and on a pen you can 1-shot same-tier tanks, which is nuts.

[@777cjm777]

Another yes vote for the tier xi. Thanks for the content!

[@wayne19563]

Great stuff ........... great analysis

[@enduro500sp]

Nice review! Good job 💪

[@tomasstraka5244]

I really like your videos, and I think your channel is underrated and not appreciated enough. I have a question though- You seem to play quite passive, how does that work out in 2k19 WoT , where games are 0/7 or so in 2-4 minutes?

[@ghovmand]

I absolutely love your videos. Learning the tactics of the game from you made me a better player. Have you stopped?

[@epjunkmail]

The reason that T-57's HEAT penned your extremely angled hull isn't b/c of real world HEAT physics (ie.. a super-heated jet of molten copper burning through armor). It's simply b/c the devs have hard coded the auto-bounce angle of AP/APCR at 70 degrees. HEAT on the other hand is hard coded to auto-bounce at 85 degrees. On a ridgeline the UDES 15/16's hull & turret is almost always right at or over 70°. So if they're not firing HEAT, it's gonna bounce.

[@zajtoja]

Isn't ApCRs autobance angle even lesser than APs 70? Wasn't it 75 for AP and 70 for Apcr?

[@taugrim]

EP was correct: it's 70 for AP/APCR and 85 for HEAT.

[@taugrim]

You're correct about everything except the location of where the HEAT round hit me. When taking screenshots for this video, I noticed that the HEAT shell hit the flat strip in the middle part of the hull that joins the upper and lower hull areas.

[@evilmac9623]

Did you sign up for the sand box Taugrim? Love to know your thoughts on whatever they are cooking up.

[@taugrim]

No, I'm usually too lazy / don't have time to test things before they're released. This has been the same for me for pretty much every game in the last 10 years.

[@evilmac9623]

@@taugrim Noted.

[@tonster181g]

Taugrim, welcome back!

[@speakeasyb2b]

I really like the way that you played Murovanka in mid. However, I don't think you could do that as easily if your game had some lights in it.... which I found the lack of odd. Thoughts?

[@taugrim]

I wouldn't go there immediately (tank too slow), but I'd still go there after briefly pausing like I did to bully lights. My armor would bounce what they'd fire at me.

[@bfbaril]

the udes has engine and gas in the front. I've found it's the tank I have that has the most fires. Auto fire extinguisher is a must.

[@taugrim]

I use Auto Fire Extinguisher pretty much on every tank that I can. Fire damage is so crippling. The only time I don't use AFE is when I need food for view range (e.g. wheeled lights) or run double repair kit in very beefy heavies.

[@natonacl4187]

Nice informative video. Are the 2 tail-looking things at the back of the Udes 15/16 part of the tank's hitbox?

Good question. I'm also interested in this. And if they aren't, can a tank showing just those be spotted? If they aren't, and you show only those, can you bait shots into them?

[@JanHogstrom]

I think skill4ltu said in one of his vids that they are not modeled as hit boxes.

[@zajtoja]

Not a hit box, yet it seems like it's a "physical" part of the tank, that would make it quiet weird.

So what does that mean? If you poke the ass of this tank out from behind hard cover so that only the boxes are showing, would the tank get spotted? If I aim for them in an enemy tank, does my shell go through and hit a tank behind them or will the box just eat the shell for no damage, no crit? I'm genuinely curious.

[@JanHogstrom]

@ Shells goes through like they are not there. The Super Pershing used to have one of it's cupolas like that too some patches ago.

[@FlaviaPitariu]

1750 alpha with 230 pen. I think the pen should be lowered to 200 so only effective armour below 200 can be penned. That way you're always switching rounds as you need. I prefer to run ap on my fv as it is more likely to pen and it's way too derpy

[@rasibadi]

Very nice, interesting and instructive video. You really know your pedagogical ropes! Would love to watch the T9 video (I am just grinding it, so input would be appreciated). Thanks in advance & best regards from Munich/Bavaria.

[@Mettie7]

I'm interested in a tier 9 video! The stock turret armor on that is higher than the top turret but I'm not sure if it's worth it with the lower hp and view range.

[@bfbaril]

sloping on stock turret isn't nearly as good as the top turret. The top turret has a steeper angle, no flattened left side, and has the smallest forehead in the game, so you can expose almost nothing when peeking. The stock turret has thicker armor, but is nonetheless inferior to the top turret in almost every way.

[@mittag6326]

As for double repair kits vs fire extinguisher - Im F2P player and I think its optimal balance between cost and performance to carry small repair kit + medkit + big repair kit. Cause if I was carrying fire extinguisher single small repair kit would be insufficient. Especially for Udes line which gets a lot of modules damaged. So using large repair kits all the time would be hella expensive. So I take that risk of fire so I can use small ktis most of the time, and large kits only from time to time.

[@protical261]

Taugrim your videos break down clear and specific plays perfectly but please I've been wondering can you do a review of the Newest OTTER Emblem xD

[@paulfernandez3247]

Will you please do a video about the road to unicum in m10 rbfm?

[@taugrim]

Yes, I will consider doing that after reviewing the tier 9 UDES 16.

[@namegoeshereorhere5020]

Only problem I have with the new Swede meds is they introduced them just after the armoured cars so everyone seems to carry a lot more HE.

[@taugrim]

The # of wheeled vehicles per battle has dropped pretty significantly, especially as the "newness" has worn off.

[@jacobbridges5143]

@@taugrim this comment didn’t age well lol

[@christiaancarstens4091]

Checked out the ammo changes for next patch. In before Taugrim murders everyone when the next patch hits.

[@taugrim]

I think WG is messing up with their proposed changes - instead of being surgical they're making too many changes. My thoughts here: www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/bxgeo8/simplest_fix_for_premium_ammo/

[@christiaancarstens4091]

@@taugrim Shus man, let them do it and lets see if you can hit 70% using only normal rounds.

[@iain6281]

Great Video buddy. Love playing this tank although it is the worst tank for fires lol

[@steved2719]

I would appreciate tier IX review also

[@gregoriussutikno5056]

Keep going taugrim, i love your video muchh ..

[@germanrrjr]

Hi bro very good Review :) , yes please review the tier 9 bro, take care

[@Momomaster25]

As a tank nerd, HEAT is a bit of a misleading acronym. Nothing about the shell's function uses heat to penetrate the armor, it uses explosive force. So instead of melting through the armor, it's more like blowing a hole through it with a focused explosion. The copper liner inside the HEAT shell will end up very hot due to physics, but the heat produced is just a side effect of the shell going off. As for WoT making HEAT have 85 degrees autobounce, I assume that's just gameplay simplification of real-life behaviors. Modern HEAT rounds have a fairly long fuse away from the tip of the shell, so to "bounce" them (HEAT will fail to explode if the fuse doesn't impact the armor first - the damage to the shell from an incorrect impact will destroy the round), it has to hit the tank at a really really steep angle, like the upper plate (like below the gun barrel) of this UDES 15/16 tank if you were looking at it from about level with the gun barrel. And HESH in WoT is modeled awfully, but I digress. Keep on with the great videos.

[@Avalon304]

So Road to Unicum on the FV183?

[@mikespark72]

yes, please, this! :) And with Taugrim not shooting any HESH it will be a really good learning experience for us. I bought it too, but try to shoot HESH as rarely as possible.

[@taugrim]

I won't, for the simple reason I'd get a ton of comments telling me I'm a noob for not firing HESH.

[@Avalon304]

Thats fair.

[@arhangeo]

@@taugrim I'd tell you, you're a good person. I play DeathBarn with HE only

[@Linuuux]

Review t9 please taugrim, currently stuck on it and don’t really understand the playstyle just yet with the stock turret

[@bfbaril]

It just sucks a bit with the soft stock turret. Play ridgelines and focus on shooting from camo, then pulling back. Even those tiny bushes can be high enough to cover you fully. You can't ridgeline brawl well until you get the foreheadless turret, and then you become a ridgeline brawl god. You might also be overexposing, too. It takes a bit of practice to learn just how little over the ridge you need to peak to be maximally effective. Ultimately, you want to use ridges combined with bushes. The late UDES tanks have phenomenal camo and good alpha.

[@Linuuux]

Benjamin Baril thanks for the advice, ill try my best to replicate the info you have given 👍

[@cobes11]

Is it worth going for? you are the first WOT i subscribed to.

[@taugrim]

If you like being able to engage from range effectively, or ridge fight, then yes. I'm glad that I went up the Swedish line at the request of my subscribers, because the playstyles supported by the UDES 15/16 are unique.

[@allankay12]

I bounce HEAT 3 or 4x more than APCR all the time and I don't know why. I'm not aiming for tracks. So I change my aim reticle and still bounce, bounce, bounce. What am I doing wrong?

[@stevenrogers7643]

A mechanic question. Can arty see a tank splitting bushes like you was at the end on the hill spotting the 183? Or is it jus trees falling and breakables?

[@taugrim]

Just things that can be knocked over.

[@minwoobjr12]

I'm thinking about what to use between Coated Optics and Gun Laying Drive. What do you think?

[@tmdblya]

Coated optics. Especially if you want to “ninja-camo” spot/snipe like Taugrim is doing in this episode

[@minwoobjr12]

@@tmdblya ok, ill try

[@taugrim]

Optics/Rammer/VStab is the holy trinity for single shot tanks. Optics are a must in every medium tank. VStab provides far better gun handling benefit than GLD.

[@minwoobjr12]

@@taugrim I would like to equip the Optics for all of the MT if possible. However, if I don't have an additional way(like a food, vent or skills), I have to worry about choosing optics for which this tank can't get the maximum view range.

[@lpanades]

Remember that this is the strongly nerfed 183 gun. Because the first one had 275mm of pen. They nerfed it to 230mm. It is fucking overpowered and the udes tanks are too in another sense. 183 HESH is op itself. Udes tanks are OP because a combination of factors. Excellent Alpha, good gun depression and super OP cammo and armor angles, speed and so on.

[@taugrim]

That's helpful to know about the 183. 275mm of pen on HESH was insanely imbalanced, and the current 230mm of pen is still way too high. HESH is a bad mechanic in its current design. I don't agree that the UDES mediums are overpowered. The speed of UDES tier 9-10 mediums is definitely below-average. The gun depression is not instant - it takes time for the hydraulic suspension to activate. Beyond that, the hull armor is very susceptible to HE.

[@lpanades]

@@taugrim I shot on test server one tier IX with Grille 15 (that I have but only play on test server). My HE did 350 of damage only on them, shooting at the turret.

[@lpanades]

Because AP bounced shot after shot.

[@taugrim]

> My HE did 350 of damage only on them, shooting at the turret 350 damage is about right with HE. Think about it: 1. UDES 15/16 turret has 100mm of armor 2. Grille HE has 75 pen, so you won't penetrate even with the highest possible pen roll 3. Grille HE has 950 alpha, so on a non-pen you'll deal (alpha / 2) - armor. So that = (950 / 2) - 100 = 475 - 100 = 375 If you can I'd shoot the hull not the turret, you'll pen that as it's only 50mm of armor.

[@lpanades]

@@taugrim unfortunatly it is not possible to hit the hull that is first covered and even if it was being shown, the Grille 15 has not the accuracy to hit them... I can say more: has not the accuracy and not even the gun handling too. I say the accuracy because even fully aimed shots are not near to be consistent. Simply German no armored TDs have not any real accuracy, they simply do not shoot near the center anyway... and anyway is ANYWAY. Any of them from tier VIII to tier X. They are simply impossible to play with the minimum of competitivity. They have not the accuracy, they have not the penetration and they have not the gun handling and absolutly any gun depression. Simply this vehicles are on the game to be hitpoints pignatas. Their condition is absolutly scandally. The game rebalancing is a urgent question... specially for non armored vehicles, specially for german vehicles. The more importante feature should be fully aimed shots accuracy. The number of shots that goes to the near center on these vehicles should be much much much much higher. I will put you an example: tomorow, I have the bad idea of playing my WT aufs Pz. IV. Simply I cound not hit the copolla of an TS-5 with my 128mm gun @100m with 5 fully aimed shots. I was forced to put gold and try more 3 shots to take it out. What is quite fun is that the WT even being a tier upper and having absolutly no armor has about the same dpm of TS-5 and much much much much better gun handling. No armored vehicles, specially german ones, are super super underpowered and ineffective in this game. And that totally fake gun depression that just do not fit the vehicles geometry should be totally reverted, re-thank by Wargaming. They are quite unplayable these days. It is absolut impossible to see any in a Clan Wars or any type of competitive game. But, by what I'm seeing Wargaming will nerf something more on them. These Sandbox stats are really a bad joke: let's see a tier X encounter: while Grille 15 bounces 1060 hitpoints on Obj 268v4 just raising the income conquests of this Op vehicle... the Grille 15 player see that he should go to gold ammo. Ok... now it has 334mm of pen. The situation is that perhaps you could pen Obj 268v4 but it is more right that you will bounce it while Obj 268v4 will respond back with 950 of alpha. Those that do not see that this was a nerf of Grille 15 and a buff of Obj268v4 had some serius mental problems. Lets seen Grille 15 agains E 100: While you have to shoot Gold to pen E 100 for 750 it shoots you back form 1060; Meanwhile Obj 268v4 is penning E 100 turret with regular AP ammo for 950. E 100 and Grille 15 are in the same condition about using Gold against Obj 268v4. So these changes were a strong real nerf on no armored vehicles like Grille 15, a sligh buff in some sense for E 100 but it is too a strong nerf to it, while it is a right and consistent buff to Obj 268v4. Sandbox is a bad joke. I will not lost any second of my time in that piece of shit like it is today. The game was not fun in some sense for the some vehicles. But they are simply making it worse. And they say it is a rebalancing. While they are buffing very armored vehicles they are fakelly buffing no armored vehicles. This is not near to be an honest behavior.

[@FlaviaPitariu]

Hesh does do even less which is why I prefer ap and only fire hesh when I know I'll pen but even then it fails since it's as accurate as a kv2

[@craigwalters1573]

Please review the udes 16, your videos are well done, thanks.

[@finndamage]

Please do the tier IX as well. ;)

[@taugrim]

I reviewed it in Episode #94

[@finndamage]

@@taugrim Oh ffs. My bad. Thanks.

[@georgo111]

pls review the tier 9 udes 16

[@nimaiiikun]

of the 4 new Swedish mediums (the 3 UDES and that 1 premium), which would you say are keepers?

[@redalert.studio612]

@@K1ngKrunch lansen C is a great tank. super snappy gun even with its lower accuracy and good balance of alpha and fire rate. Turret will bounce lower tiers. pretty mobile and excels at punishing

[@taugrim]

Agreed. The tier 9 is probably the best-performing. I have the Lansen tier 8 premium in my garage but have yet to play it.

[@Renkishat]

Tier 9. Absolutely.

[@georgkilianbraunig5877]

i currently play the t8 udes and get to feel the credit club hit my account for repairs and stuff, i am play free to play and kind of refuse to go much higher in tiers from now, just bcs its expensive af...

[@taugrim]

Tier 8 is a very good place in terms of playing higher-tier tanks that are polished, while still being able to make credits.

[@georgkilianbraunig5877]

@@taugrim thats what i thougth...and dang i love to play the udes... i also grind the t44 just for the RNG XD

[@steelwarrior105]

Right, HEAT not a kinetic penetrator

[@shigeolincolntaco]

I see you were platooned w/ a cpl former Narwl's

[@nickm9136]

Taugrim. Do u know when campaign s will start

[@zwinmar21]

thoughts on the Foch 155? i can make it work for me but othres..

[@taugrim]

I don't have it. It's a low-alpha TD machine gun, so you have to maximize windows where you'll have multiple shots at a target. That requires positioning, field of fire, and map awareness.

[@zwinmar21]

:p wouldn't call 750 average alpha damage in a 3 round auto loader, low alpha

[@taugrim]

Oh good grief, I was thinking of the Foch B. Basically the Foch 155 is the ultimate, pump-n-dump and then go screw off for 45 secs kind of tank. The burst potential is massive, but the reload is crippling. I'd rather have lower burst burst a more manageable clip reload.

[@robgifford3766]

Tier 9 please.

[@matejpevec]

Geez that FV simply deleted those 4 tanks

[@benflap9374]

There's something I find very strange in your replays from tanks you play quite passive in. The fact that you keep using (almost) the same positions and, like in the last replay, none of 3 arties is firing at you, even though you've been not aggressive but still a big threat to the enemies, because you blindly killed some and kept others spotted. Only in the end 1 arty splashed you. Is it just me or are you just extremely lucky on that point? I remember the same thing from a replay when you reviewed the Leo. Although there still are no armor models available at Tanks.gg, I have the idea that the cupola on these Swedish meds is too strong. I remember playing against this UDES 15/16, in my M48 Patton and kept bouncing on the cupola. Even with HEAT, I think I damaged him only once and all shots were from max 100m. If I compare this to the Swedish top td's, I don't have this problem going through with standard ammo on most tanks.

[@taugrim]

That's incorrect, I was fired at by arties multiple times in the Murovanka battle. And ofc there were no arties in that Westfield battle, as I said during the countdown. Keep in mind that what I am doing is minimizing the amount of time that I am spotted, and arties can't hit what they don't know is there.

[@WhereTheGustGoes]

No udes 16?

[@BertMerlin57]

I also use batlle prepare box, little and big toolkit and big toolbox so all 4 and repair on crew 😀🤪

[@taugrim]

Toolbox is a waste on every tank. I have yet to find one where it's meaningfully useful. Some people use Toolbox on the T95 but I found double repair kit is the right setup.

[@DrssaFerri]

Taugrim pls try the Progetto 65!

[@taugrim]

I started grinding the P43 today. I'll get there eventually :)

[@DrssaFerri]

@@taugrim P43 amazing HE gun, Tier 6,7 good, Tier 8,9 very good, tier 10 incredible

[@xfscz7258]

1. Mb for this!? You probably should kill all enemy team by y self to get mastery.... Great high info value video as always anyway.

[@siewkimng1085]

Taugrim obviously never played the T-62a. 8:30 "Better speed on the T-62a" If the UDES is "meaningfully slow" then the T-62a should be "equally slow" T-62a has the same top speed as udes 15/16 AND a much lower hp/ton of 15.6 vs 19 on the UDES. The terrain resistance is better on the T-62a but I don't think it makes any difference when you compare the hp/t. T-62a has no hull armor and will never survive if he's lit up at the 8 line.

[@khan-op9hm]

yes 9 please

[@KalLanPIDT]

Do one for the new leopard :D

[@cristianb9091]

Let`s say about first game , you were in platoon , but I hate when top tier mediums go to heavy line to play there , just think what the tier 8 meds or t49 can do vs tier 10 progetto … well , nothing ... It was obvious they are gonna lose the 0 line and the tds at F5 are gonna get spotted and destroyed from the meds line … `losing very badly` you said … well , because you don`t give em any chance to win .. maybe I`m just a noob , 1300 wn8 , but this is how I see it

[@goodoldpuffer559]

New mic btw???

[@taugrim]

No, I was just very relaxed when recording this narration. I 1-shot the narration, which was sweet. I use a Blue Snowball mic.

[@leviathan5207]

hesh is broken? have you actually tried playing these tds? if you are bad, you will SUFFER. and even if you are good, you have to play careful. i think its sad how the fv got nerfed, but the 268v4, 430u, 297e and type/maus are still roaming the battlefield rewarding players, for pressing W and not thinking about anything.

[@Cpt_DoDo]

720p this is 2019! fix it!

[@sciencethygod]

So its a really slow light tank :V

[@taugrim]

No, it has a far better gun than any tier 10 light tank. It's a medium, just one that blends ridge-fighting and camo. So it's sort of a medium/TD hybrid, not so much a light.

[@sciencethygod]

@@taugrim ah medium td makes more sense!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

No premium ammo but still large med and repair kit and auto fire extinguisher, interesting. Guess you're too good for gold ammo.

[@xgonozal8_772]

6% ?!? of what?!? 😝🤣 0:58

[@Gnaaal]

you're to far away to hit sh... what i spot :D

[@mastershake9551]

for a medium i think it has so broken amor

[@taugrim]

It's not fast. I think it's fine.

[@klby30]

First!!

[@taugrim]

You, in fact, are first. Have a cookie 🍪

[@shri2549]

Only Apcr rounds not usefull

[@Abusemtex]

Gold ammo is not premium ammo! It's special ammo and only 5% of all the shots in game are on of those...