UK Knife Collectors On A Police Database?

In late November 2023 the NPCC (National Police Chiefs Council) issued a press release. This release detailed a campaign to begin recording the details of anyone purchasing a legal knife online in the UK. It further suggests buyers may receive a Police visit and will definitely get a letter from the NPCC... I discuss the details, read out the letter and give my opinion on this new tactic.
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[@lenordchristopher6447]

How about a database for all the crimes reported to police that are never followed up

[@CuriousFocker]

How about a database for all the crimes committed by the police and are never prosecuted.

[@TheWtfnonamez]

You know that your country is pivoting towards totalitarianism when they start creating databases for "people who have not done things that are illegal YET" I am a middle aged peaceful guy, I have a 100% clean criminal record, I dont break the law, and when I used to work in door security I was known by the local cops as a guy who would "always exhaust every diplomatic option rather than resort to force". Well here I am in 2023, and this might be the THIRD or possibly FOURTH database I might be listed on. Apparently being a law abiding citizen is not enough these days, you also need to stay at home, not have outdoor hobbies, not have opinions, or at the very least not have traditional opinions, and god help you if you are not buying in to our new "carbon controlled" future. Every single purchase I have ever made has been 100% legit, and I stupidly did it with full legal compliance, and presented my ID for legitimacy. It is shameful that honesty and integrity will mean people will end up on secret police databases as a punishment for obeying the law with integrity. I would note though, personally Im pretty sure that big knife retailers like Amazon, Heinnie Haynes etc, have already turned over all our personal data to the police. Just saying.

[@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa3805]

Look around you my dude.... Google keeps a record on you. Facebook,what's app you are on a million million databases. Many you willing gave them your details. The UK public and as a consequence the UK government has continuing shown a complete ignorance to sensitive data. With naive ideas of passport checks for blades and now passport checks for adult sites. The issue is not totalitarianism right now the issue is will the government implement age verification checks that could threaten national security, fraud , identity theft and blackmail. From naive policies to appease naive elderly voters.

[@noelwallace5257]

So don’t you feel the mug for being such a suck ass Mr Perfectly Clean, and still having the establishment hunting for you 🤦‍♂️🤭

[@johndenver6769]

Do HH require ID to purchase their knives?

[@DarkstarPyro]

An insidious example of government overreach - and a criminal waste of public money 😱

[@DarkstarPyro]

@@user-yi3ox8wy4k Sadly, it will only get worse, imho 🥲

[@geezerp1982]

which most brits want

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

They need to do more for the younger generation that are in gangs, not law abiding citizens that use them or collect them

[@MrCazjd]

The whole war on knives is ridiculous, if a criminal wants to use one he won’t think twice about if it’s against the law. The war is on law abiding people using them for self defence against knife wielding criminals. The real criminals are the law makers.

[@clarence_claymore.]

Yeah but the people that operate within the law are native British, can’t have that

[@torquetheprisoner]

i have a nice collection of swords on the wall and that is where they stay.

[@nipstyler]

​@@clarence_claymore.Native British? I hope you mean individuals who were born in the UK and not another human characteristic...

[@clarence_claymore.]

@@nipstyler being born in the uk doesn’t make you native the same way white yanks aren’t native to America

[@agent7796]

It's a ridiculous waste of money & will solve nothing. Thank you for highlighting this, much appreciated, 😎👍👍

[@StevenDavidson-y1p]

I have carried a knife most days I am 65 years old and I have never hurt anyone,the first knife I got was from my grandfather who taught me how to use and maintain my knife,I think this is part of the instilling fear in the public that has been happening for a long time now ,it makes me sad the way this country is going the rot has to stop

[@simonbroddle754]

Are you me? 😂 This is my story from start to finish. I'm a year younger but that is all. I still carry mine every day and never think about not doing. It's an emergency screwdriver when needed and abused and used daily. I can't imagine not carrying one. (I use it daily in my job as well). Perhaps we ought to encourage knife carrying? teach people how to use them, care for them and take pride in them? Why is the answer always to ban something?

[@scotsman7626]

​@@simonbroddle754I agree with that, I've tried doing the on my KZbin but tbh I'm not great at, but I feel someone has to do it, instead of teaching that knives are awful and should never be carried, how about teaching the usefulness of knives, I often get asked to cut something for someone, I feel that sharpen is a skill that everyone should learn, people really shouldn't fear basic tools.

[@amcluesent]

I've taken to carrying a UK legal knife as an EDC to preserve my rights

[@thatgearguy]

Yes its a pefectly lawful thing to do.

[@williamoliver9743]

@@thatgearguybut for how long?

[@hardergamer]

@@williamoliver9743 And if you talk to many officers out there, they will claim you already can't.

[@Itisinthehand]

What is an EDC?

[@thatgearguy]

@@Itisinthehand Every Day Carry

[@Vultureman23]

You give them a inch and they'll take a mile and keep on going.

[@adbraham]

I hold an FAC and legitimately stalk deer, as approved under the conditions of said certificate. I was thinking of getting a new hunting knife, something perhaps made of laminated cobalt steel, made by a well known Swedish manufacturer. These are expensive (£200+), and I could not afford to have one confiscated or otherwise “disappear” in the post. I’m now thinking I won’t bother. When are the police going to stop virtue signalling and actually deal with the actual problem? I’m 60, I don’t live on an inner London sink estate and wear a hoodie! I’m certainly not a member of a gang! This is ridiculous. Most knives used for knife crime are kitchen knives, as these are most easily available.

[@thatgearguy]

I would buy anything expensive in the UK. At least you know you will get it without the risk or added grief..

[@adbraham]

Thanks for responding. A UK supplier would always be my first option, but Falkniven don’t have any UK agents, and those retailers that do stock them don’t seem to carry the one I’m after unfortunately. Great channel btw!

[@ironpirate8]

@@adbraham You could always ask a UK supplier if they can get the specific knife you want, especially if you'd be willing to pay a bit of a premium for the peace of mind.

[@Smatnm]

@@ironpirate8 Or alternatively, one could be made by a U.K. knife maker, to exact specifications/materials. Lots of very reasonably priced quality makers in the U.K. that specialise in just that sort of knife.

[@mark22c]

i stopped making because of all this bs years ago@@Smatnm

[@Kyle_w]

Thank you very much for making this video! I just confirmed 1 thing. My right to own a 3in long blade folding knife is being stripped. I was about to purchase 1 but now i am so afraid the police may knock on door and question me. Also dont want my name to be listed as potential criminal. 😢😢

[@nnglnd]

Remind me again how criminals obey the law....

[@johnfromscotland1050]

I ordered a Benchmade mini Adamas...the police came to my door and threatened me with charges of "trying to purchase an illegal weapon " as it was a gravity blade.... I tried to educate them as I teach bushcraft, kayak and wild camping and produced a full size version and tried to explain the locking system.....gravity, axes lock..... which I received a thousand yard stare, to which I asked the question..." do you have any idea of what I'm talking about ? "...to which the constable's response was," mate I just chap the door, read what's on this paperwork, and give you a letter, i have no idea...", what chance do legitimate collectors and users have when our own police force don't have a clue what there talking about doing.....waist of tax Payers money and time.....

[@generalbarry]

I've always said, if you want to know about the law, don't ask a cop. Cops know less about the law than any subject on the face of the earth.

[@tonywatson1412]

When you think about it.... you shouldn't need a reason to buy/own any knife .... what the hell business of anybodys is it...if I'm not waving it about in public....

[@donaldcarr8766]

I recently had a collectable victorinox knife questioned by courier/ HMRC that I purchased online from abroad .They wanted clarification as to what the item was,even though the model number and description was listed. This demonstrates the incompetence of people checking these items the person I spoke to didn't even recognise the term penknife ?

[@gregorypaulbox3035]

A knife is not 'dangerous' until the user exhibits problematic behavior and attitudes. Citizens should be permitted to carry knives. I carried a knife when a scout and typically carry a multi tool with a locking blade for a wide variety of everyday tasks. The Government list of 'banned knives and weapons' is also quite cretinous.

[@SilentButDescriptive]

It really is frustrating. I carry a Spyderco Bug, I think it is. It's way, way legal and I carry it for legal purposes, along with the millions of other gadgets and gizmoes in my EDC. I do not like being tarred into the same groups as people who carry knives for offensive or defensive purposes. I do not support people carrying knives for offensive or defensive purposes in our society. Seems the powers that be want to make it so we can't have nice things or even decorative things. Half the specific knives they ban are rubbish, just bad quality, almost worthless as weapons. A guy with a green knife with a picture of a zombie on it as part of a wall display is a criminal, but owners of kitchen knives are not, UNTIL they do something illegal with it. Mind boggling. We live in an insane world.

[@geezerp1982]

" defensive purposes in our society." whilst its illegal , however wanted to defend yourself from criminals is so wrong and evil is it ! its sicking that the people like you want everyone to be a victum and have no means to defend themselves , atleast make pepper spray legal ! the criminals are already armed we dont have nice criminals who refuse to arm up because the law abiding are banned from carrying anything for self defence ! much of europe allow pepper spray , whilst eastern eu allow tazers and firearms and they have a lower violent crime rate the UK !

[@Donnieboy7]

@@SilentButDescriptive if kitchen knives didn’t exist, how could we cook? I’m sorry, but your argument doesn’t quite make sense.

[@georgewright1463]

It’s easy do what I do I don’t buy knifes if I want a knife I just make one 👍🏻

[@CuriousFocker]

If I received such a letter from the police I would reply with something like this: "It is evident from the letter I have received from yourself that you are probably in need of help from mental health professionals. May I suggest you contact any NHS professional for urgent referal and the treatment you are clearly in need of. Regards from somone concerned for your mental health and well-being."

[@CJ-bb2gs]

I own far to many knives.. But I also own far to many flashlights.. Im a sucker for a large bowie knife.. But my favorite's these days are bushcraft knives such as a Mora.. small but much more practical.. I think you hit the nail on the head here.. A good knife is right up there with the invention of the wheel.. Most of my kitchen knives are bigger than the ones in my camping gear..

[@Oncebitten807]

I’ve literally just been informed that my WE vision r has been siezed today, so I’m off to rewatch your video of when you were in the same situation! I recently came across a heartbreaking story from a parent whose child was killed by someone with a knife, it was on one of the petition sites that bring the petition to parliament, given enough signatures are present. Obviously this person was very anti knife, and I remember thinking there’s nothing I could say to justify my hobby to them, without offending them. And that’s were we are, because of the way this country has been so poorly governed. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, they rely on platitudes and headlines.

[@johndenver6769]

Did you order it from abroad or in the UK?

[@taztaz6539]

IF this applies only to imported bladed articles then the authorities would already have your details due to the carrier having submitted customs paperwork so you'd already be on a register at point of sale What you may not realise is that if you purchase a bladed article online within the UK then you also automatically get put on a register at point of sale. I collect and use daily Ka-Bar knives and have discussions with the retailer I get my knives from fairly frequently and it seems as though the police are trying to go full 1984 even though most of his customers live in the sticks and work on a farm Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts

[@thatgearguy]

They would have the details but they probably werent in much of an organised manner. My concern is this list will now be kept and labelled as a "potential suspects of knife crime" database rather than simply a list of importers.

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

It's the temerity of them deciding whether or not it has a legitimate use that really annoys me. Hey, perhaps you're a half-wit, and there is a factor which you haven't considered. It's none of their business as long as the knife is legal. Violent crime is clearly a software problem not a hardware problem. It's embarrassing to watch these morons try to change behaviours and cultures by banning inanimate objects..

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

We all be on a list just for commenting 😂

[@spamfritters1]

Intimidation tactics, got to love living in a "free" society

[@flickthenick]

Further, my kitchen drawer is full of some razor sharp knives which yet such things are not thought of as weapons...

[@ianmorris6437]

A while back there was an news article with a picture showing a weapons cache seized by the police, A few large knives and the contents of a kitchen drawer including carving forks and serving spoons, since then I've referred to the utensil drawer as my weapons cache.

[@generalbarry]

Kitchen knives are not thought of as weapons...YET!

[@weskercat8721]

First off love your work and reviews but what does this mean for the UK legal edc criteria that most of us law abiding citizens adhere to....when i buy my new Junzi will i be expecting a letter and visit? Such a shame the minority spoils it for the rest of us. Keep up the good work my man.

[@contentsdiffer5958]

The minority spoiling it is the political class.

[@flickthenick]

The word 'weapon' gets banded about so much, at what point does a knife,or indeed anything, become a weapon?

[@thatgearguy]

The word is cleverly inserted into the Police letter to set a specific tone. As you say it is only a weapon if used as one. It is equally a tool, a collectors piece, art, heritage ect ect..

[@KeithPrince-cp3me]

The problem is that successive governments have used the approach that the issue is knife availability not in social problems thus if you reduce knife availability and ownership that would solve the problem, except this has been the approach for 20 years so why is knife crime still such a problem. Einstein described stupidity as doing the same thing and expecting different results. 20 years ago a shop owner told me that he was stopping selling sheath knives as it was too much hassle yet as he said a police officer even said to him most knife crime involved kitchen knives. Buying over the internet for many is the only option due to the decline in local stores for angling, airguns, camping, army surplus equipment that used to sell camping knives. Some militaria enthusiasts collect bayonets with no intention to use them for their designed use. And I find a machete the most effective tool for keeping my garden in check.

[@Si74l0rd]

I collect kukris, but specifically only non military ones. Just so I have the defense in court, if required, that what I own are tools, and were made for the purpose of being tools and not weapons. It's a small distinction but the last round of laws made it a valid distinction legally. A bayonet or British Army MK2 kukri was created as a weapon, and I don't think it'll be much longer before they explicitly ban all such items even those of historic interest or value. 90% of knife crime is still kitchen knives and screwdrivers, chisels etc. In other words, every day tools, and nothing to do with whatever might be sold on the internet. It's also the kind of blade that everyone in the country has, and has access to, and I don't see how that can change without restricting access to those items which are required for cooking. Which is beyond ludicrous, and obviously makes it an education problem, not a hardware problem. The main reason a criminal wouldn't buy and expensive design piece, or a historical artifact, is that they plan on dumping it down a drain afterwards, so they want cheap, cheerful, easily available and fairly nondescript. My collection will eventually fall afoul of the law, I have little doubt, but it'll never be the kind of thing people actually carry on the streets. Same with a bayonet.

[@nevyngould1744]

I have swords myself, specifically early medieval broadswords. they're for re-enactment and public display and perfectly legal, so far.

[@thatgearguy]

The whole point is that buyers of perfectly legal blades will be added to a database and may be visited.

[@nevyngould1744]

@@thatgearguy yeah I got that. Luckily I don't import, I have access to good blacksmiths right here. Doubt it'll be long before they get around to interfering with that too though.

[@moorshound3243]

​@@thatgearguylike guns in the US

[@alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166]

Thank you for the update I totally agree with all the points you made well put.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Before long we won’t be able to own or collect anything.

[@CuriousFocker]

You will be able to collect your alloted amount of food from the government food bank, but that's all.

[@richardk5246]

You will own nothing and you will be happy. We have been warning people for years but the sheep keeping vote for the same old parties that hate us and want us under total control. 1984 is real.

[@sgoredraw1455]

“ you will own nothing and you will be happy “ - The World Economic Forum

[@Donnieboy7]

@@sgoredraw1455 that’s their project..

[@ianrosie4431]

How about making a lock on kitchen cutlery drawers mandatory. Put it to Mothers against Knife Crime as an idea.

[@grandadjohn2041]

Thank you for the information, being a volunteer warden over a estate, Ex military & a trained butcher I use many different knives for all sorts of jobs, but I also instil knife safety to my children as I have many around in order to complete my daily tasks. I believe I should be able to gift a knife to my children for such things as dressing game, fishing or camping with out putting them on a watch list, when they just enjoying what I have taught them, I.E enjoying our natural wild palaces & harvesting wild meats legally.

[@billienomates1606]

This is what happens when you give power to people who have no idea of the real world or what they are talking about. The majority of knives used in criminal acts are the ones you can get from any kitchen draw or supermarket. Just like the hand gun ban, the issue was not with legal and law abiding gun owners but with the criminal element of society. The result of the ban was an increase in the amount of hand guns being used in criminal activity not less. I really do despair that the lives of tens of millions of law abiding citizens is put at greater and greater risk by the idiots we have who set our laws.

[@raytaylor4199]

Nothing surprises me with how the UK is being governed anymore. Bunch of clowns need to deal with the root cause, not persecute everyone that has legitimate uses for knives. How stupid is it that you have to worry about carrying a multitool or a Swiss army knife for legitimate purposes, I love Leatherman, Victorinox, Gerber, SOG, they have very practical uses. I don’t care if they ban machetes, combat knives and all those other stupid knives, but don’t persecute law abiding citizens that contribute to society.

[@thatgearguy]

Im afraid that any of those knive you mention are a thin end of the wedge to all knives. If you say ban a certain type of knife because you dont care about it, its only a matter of time before the ones you do care about are banned as well.

[@hardergamer]

What about all the people who work the land like gardeners tree surgeons farmers etc, even if you don't many others do.

[@raytaylor4199]

@@hardergamer the knives I’m referring to for strict legislation/ban are not those that people use to go about their business, Combat knives obviously have no place on our streets, Unless used in martial arts schools etc, with regards to machetes, I’m pretty sure those used on farms and kept there would be no issue, of course there are situations where the people using those knives will be transporting them for obvious reasons.

[@hardergamer]

@@raytaylor4199 You said "machetes" which is used by many of us to clear brush.

[@paulluke3724]

Thanks for another informative video sad to see the way it's going. Am a knife collector/Daly EDC carryer probably the most used tool in the Day as an agri engineer😊 . Soon be band from getting eney knifes from online shops I bet 😢

[@maggiemay427]

The law clamping down on a soft target, again. They do like an easy life while making ours a misery. Oh, how the laugh at us.

[@steelcityedc2447]

Thanks for sharing this news - it’s a sad day for us indeed. I completely agree with your assessment that the police should focus on addressing the criminal gangs who will laugh at / ignore the letters. Instead us law abiding citizens are viewed as the easy targets to help boost police stats so the politicians can try to gain more votes during the next election…. The UK really is a failed state in so many ways.

[@noofynumbskull]

Its getting even more pathetic each day ,

[@Jimmie16]

So many of the laws regarding knives are ludicrous, lock knives are a perfect example of them banning a type of knife when in fact it's a safety feature and doesn't in any way affect the lethality of it. Most knives used in assaults are kitchen knives of various types. Drop knives are another as the spring isn't strong enough for it to penetrate skin.

[@SebastianDeBeer]

I always considered the UK as one of the most democratic countries in the world but it would seem that is no longer the case. Unfortunately the pollies in Oz tend to adopt similar policies to those in the UK when we face increases in similar types of crime i.e. knife crime.

[@aeromech8563]

Totally agree bro work all over straya and every State/Teritory is getting like the old country 😣

[@imsoreetodddid9007]

Dude it's the most authoritarian country in the 1st world.

[@TheDavewatts]

Democratic,😂 you must be joking,no such thing here, it's a joke of a country, they know the reason knife crime is going up just to much of a 💩🏠 to say.

[@Smatnm]

Just another reason to let out a big, despondent sigh at yet more “someone needs to do something” policies. If the “if it saves one life…..” argument was legitimate, then everyone would also be calling for a ban on alcohol.

[@firstname4337]

as an American living in New York City (which has very strict knife laws that I disagree with) I always find it interesting hearing about other countries and their knife laws -- keep hoping for good news somewhere LOL

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks for watching bud. I think in 10yrs time we will all be suffering from mass legislation which penalises the law abiding and does nothing to stop criminals..

[@yellowflag4803]

@@thatgearguy I'm in Canada, I think we are already at that point

[@TheWtfnonamez]

Lots of love from the UK mate. Ive done a bit research into the NYC knife laws and they are indeed egregious. Apparently the cops practise wrist flicking knives open, because under NY statute, if you can flick a knife open with one hand, it then technically qualifies as a "flick knife" and possession is now a Federal offence, because a "flick knife" is prohibited. There was a famous case of a New York chef that got sent down for a couple of years. He was on the way to work in the very early hours to do his prep for opening, they stopped him in the street, most likely because he was black, and shook him down. When they realised they couldn't arrest him for his bag of chefs knives, they fixated on his non-locking, perfectly legal, folding pocket knife. Two cops spent over twenty minutes trying to manipulate the knife until one of them finally managed to flick it open. The black chef ended up serving over two years in prison for that nonsense. I think a lot of it has to do with police targets. Cops in both the UK and the US get bonuses based on arrests and prosecutions, not on the overall level of crime reduction or "being a good guy that helps the community". To use an example from London, once Meter Maids were paid based on performance, they started ticketing perfectly legal cars, and bumping cars so they were just over the yellow line, because at fifty quid a pop.... why not just punish everyone ....

[@MrSharpe95]

A fixed blade less than 4" is ok in NY tho isn't it??

[@unlawfulsoup]

Gravity knife thing was repealed in NY years ago. @@TheWtfnonamez

[@plaggy7]

Ironically as I was watching this, there was a knock at my door, and my new bushcraft knife turned up with DPD.

[@peach8685]

A lot of good points.

[@gordonday8771]

Thankyou for your efforts 💪

[@russellsaunders9502]

It’s interesting how perfectly legal knives are always referred to as ‘weapons’. And it would also be interesting to research the number of crimes / deaths recorded by police forces across the UK and to understand what types of knives have been used in these crimes. There is always a knee jerk reaction often without a proper reasoned or researched / measured approach to these issues. I’m 68 years old and have carried a pocket knife (legal) for as long as I can remember, used as a tool, never a weapon.

[@xraptor94x]

I'm from Germany and just heard that the UK laws on knifes and similar objects are horribly bad but i never heard from someone who had direct experiences with that. And i have to say, it sounds kinda Draconian to me to be treated as a criminal by just acquiring an object lawfully and with most likely no ill intentions. I'm a knife nerd myself and i can understand that not every type of knife should be carried in public when there is no legitimate reason. But when you have a legitimate acquired object at home that is not an outstanding or immediate threat, there should be no reason for the police to intervene in your life. (And i count database stuff as a form of intervention. Specially when those collecting the data additionally also vaguely threaten or try to scare with "We know who you are and what you did") And just to clarify, with immediate threat i do not mean acquiring the knife alone as there are all the time people getting a knife for all sorts of daily work or hobbies like woodwork (my thing), cooking, collecting, box opening etc. Thinking that being a threat for getting a knife alone is unreasonable. What i mean with threat is for example expressing intentions to use the object to harm. When we go with the reasoning that acquiring an object that has a potential to hurt already would be a threat, then you can apply that logic to nearly everything. Screwdrivers, forks, glass bottles and even pillows. And that example didn't came out of nowhere. Some gangs here in Germany like to use screwdrivers and hammers to do crimes for example. To solve violent crime effectively, you need to solve bad conditions people are in. Desperation and not seeing a future for oneself is a dangerous motivator for violent crime. Banning stuff may make some people feel safe, but won't change the actual safety of an area or the criminal behavior. What i wrote is probably nothing new. But i like to share my thoughts, which are sometimes pretty standard ^^

[@tonychristie9093]

I understand why the police are trying to impliment this but if your willing to spend a decent amount of money on a knife that fits into the "legal carry" criteria you already know the legislation behind it and know what you can and cant have whereas criminals will carry something regardless of law

[@benewgillian6823]

Strange restrictive laws in the UK.. In France you can buy in 5 minutes in any gun shops a black powder revolver replica from the 1800's just by showing an ID and being above 18. What is difficult to get though are the primers and the black powder itself. So some people are making their own.. Knives either are not a problem to get at all there, although you need of course a good reason to carry any of those on you in the street or in your car if the police search you..

[@d4zzyb0y]

The crazy thing is most of the knife crime in the uk is kids using kitchen knives! Banning a certain type of knife will meke no difference

[@RichardEnglander]

A race to the bottom because of the lowest common denominator. We have a Nanny State aka Big Mother.

[@philipcopestick5850]

I think there are some people in power that would have a fit if they knew just how many legal knives are being carried around totally legally by normal law abiding citizens and are not used i any way shape of form to commit any sort of crime. I know lots of people that carry a penknife of some sort or other and probably don't even take it out of their pocket from one week to the next. I know That I carry a Swiss army knife on a regular basis, but I can't remember the last time I actually used whilst out of the house. But I will continue to carry it as is my democratic right to do so.

[@MichaelB2L]

Nice one George and you buddy! Couldn’t agree with you more. Daft, massive waste of time. Apart from deterring collectors, bushcrafters etc I can’t fathom the plod’s reasoning for this. But hey most of what they do makes little sense to me. Hope you don’t have any more of experiences like you the one you mentioned!

[@michaeljohnson4947]

Maybe the solved all the other crimes in the UK.

[@lisasanchez6694]

Where have I heard that playbook before? Ah yes in the US regarding the AR-15.

[@CharlesGarner-mb8we]

Another great video.

[@Mat-kr1nf]

11:07 Well, that is an absolute joke! About 10 years ago, I had the misfortune to live above someone who had a friend round constantly who was an absolute scumbag, I’d already had a run in with them previously where they held a knife to my throat, they had been done for attempted murder in the past. I went to the police because I didn’t feel safe, I was told there was NOTHING THEY COULD DO! Not until he did anything illegal, like violence against me, basically, I had to have been assaulted or stabbed or killed before they would intervene.🤷‍♂️

[@thatgearguy]

But they can intervene before a crime takes place if we order a knife online. Ironic.

[@Mat-kr1nf]

I recently watched a documentary on knife crime, the police had a proactive operation where they searched areas that young gang members hung out. They found a couple of knives (kitchen knives….of course😩), and an axe. They then explained how unusual the axe was and how it was normally kitchen knives because they were so ubiquitous (that’s my use of the word, not theirs, I don’t think their vocabulary stretches that far!😂). Of course, we all know it’s kitchen knives that are used as nearly every incident you hear about involves them, they know that but insist on criminalising law abiding citizens. They just can’t help themselves, of course, it would be so much harder to tackle the cause and how can they “clamp down” on something as ubiquitous as a kitchen knife, so…..it’s the good old “switch and bait”, “smoke and mirrors” routine. It’s the sheer high handed arrogance of it that makes my blood boil. Just because they don’t have an interest in activities that use knives, like wood carving, bushcraft etc., they don’t think anyone should be allowed to have certain knives, they should be restricted. People who can’t see further than the end of their nose, political animals who manipulate the truth!🤬😬🧐🤷‍♂️

[@michaelcoppin8702]

Wrong, a few years ago the knife most commonly used was a pound shop vegetable paring knife … several hidden, pushed down into flowerbeds, at the foot of trees etc. now it’s an Anglo Arms machete or trench knife …

[@Mat-kr1nf]

@@michaelcoppin8702 Firstly, I was referring to the documentary, a recent one I might add, the police themselves said “kitchen knife”, a paring knife comes under that umbrella term, to whit, a kitchen knife. Secondly, I was unaware that these thugs actually have a recommended, central body authorised list of shops to purchase their “weapons” from! Are the guidelines distributed by pamphlets or is there an official scumbag authorised shopping site that they go to?🤔. As a matter of interest, where do they keep the spade used to dig up this Anglo Arms machete, do they just leave it leaning up against the tree, or do they have a garden tool shed for them. Is that a local council led initiative?🤓Personally, I find the Martindale machete very effective, I know it gets a bit of a slating in some circles, but I have to say it makes very short work of trimming my Buddleia tree and really goes to town on brambles!

[@YevenParis-ln1jg]

Commenting on an old post, but I just wanted to say... The primary reason the UK denies its citizens the right to any 'means of self defense' is because it lack a bill of rights. That means what lies in the interests of the people is strictly the the domain of the parliament and not the courts. Restrictive laws on all forms of firearns and weapons leads to genocide. Thats why countries like the UK, Australia and Canada are rushing head long into modern authoritarianism. The restrictive nature of these regimes is now totally incompatible and corrosive to the freedoms and liberties afforded by the founding fathers of the US constitution. Anyone with a thinking mimd and the ability to learn from the past will see this will not end well for the citizens of these nations whose rights are all but gone.

[@thatgearguy]

Its not helping New York very much.

[@ironpirate8]

Compiling databases, and writing and sending letters - jobs AI can do and nobody has to lift a finger. Cracking down on crime! Grief.

[@steventaylor4867]

☹does that mean Leatherman knives and Swiss knives as well they are the only ones that I do collect ??

[@thatgearguy]

It appears to mean any bladed articles.

[@steventaylor4867]

So they want to turn collectors into criminals do they oh well it's going beyond the joke anyway ☹😮

[@phoenixh87]

That second letter you read would make much more sense if you swaped the word knife with hand grenade

[@lesallison9047]

Hi, have you got anymore updates on spent shell cartridges. I am worried by this as I have two 2nd WW cannon shells of great sentimental value and I don't want to part with them, but if I do have to I would like to give them to a museum if that will be possible under new laws. To me these are a part of history which Should not be lost. ✌💚🙏 🇬🇧 P.S. Fantastic show.

[@thatgearguy]

Hi. Yes I did a video update. It appears there will be exemption for collectors and those with just some shells for interest, hobby ect..

[@lesallison9047]

@@thatgearguy Hi, thank you, I've been ill so I must of missed it. I will check it out. I will take this opportunity to thank you for the work you do on utube, it is very interesting. It upsets me to think of all the silly laws that keep popping up, but it is nice to know. I have a friend who is a crack shot with a blow pipe, and on our dinner hour at work he would amaze everyone with some very accurate long shots, of course he now can no longer practice 😕 All the best.

[@moorshound3243]

Who cares just keep them.

[@petewatson9866]

This is just the politicians passing the buck, the Uk border force is far too underfunded and understaffed.

[@nevyngould1744]

Machete? That's a fantasy style Khukri (sp)

[@thatgearguy]

Whatever, its garbage.

[@nevyngould1744]

@@thatgearguy certainly is and probably fairly useless for hacking through jungle at that.

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

If a Govt wanted to conpletely disarm its population then wouldnt it be really helpful for there to bw more knife crime etc? Just a thought.

[@7mag]

Thanks for this: interesting vid (another one!)

[@haydenwayne637]

Instead of doing something to solve the problems leading to knife crime let's just cause everybody else grief instead! WTF is wrong in the UK police and gov heads?

[@SonofChurchill]

A letter sent home from Teacher. Not going to happen can't see this happing in Mail Center Whrn i was at MC The machine has enough problems with reading text on Red envelopes!. When on delivery never seen a Postie ask for ID when iteam showes ID 18. Should be spending time on stop & search with longer prison sentence. Why would need a Machete walking streets. Diffrent matter should Machete be at botton of backpack with camping gear.

[@StrongestPar]

Just more virtue signalling unfortunately. This will probably be 'hot off the press' soon, with politicians blabbering on about how a letter and a database is going to solve the problem. Doesn't really make much sense when you consider 3/4 of all knife crime in the U.K is commited with kitchen knives. What next... a database for all those with kitchen knives over a certain length or particular design? 😂 Shall we start sending letters to all chefs while we're at it.

[@nickmactools]

I have a question about knife storage. I am an active outdoors guy,vermin shooting and camping etc and a licenced firearms owner.( No guns kept in the vehicle). In the back of my Landrover I have a chopping/skinning board attached to the rear door and have suitable knives to carry out that task. I also carry a rucksack in the rear which has all basic camping/ survival equipment so I can comfortably stay outside overnight if the need arises. It contains all sorts of equipment including a Gerber machete and a small axe that I use to gather and size firewood to burn etc. They live in the Landrover 24/7 and are not easily accessible by driver or passenger so my question is am I in breach of the law by having them there?

[@thatgearguy]

Yes. Unless you can prove you are camping at that moment you would be in trouble.

[@nickmactools]

@@thatgearguy Thanks, so is it now the case that a locked vehicle interior is now classed as a public place? I always thought that so long as any knife or axe was ok if stored out of sight and easy reach, but times must have changed. I will have to reorganise the landy to stay within the law.

[@thatgearguy]

@@nickmactools www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/st-s/stop-and-search/stop-and-search-process/

[@LoremIpsum1970]

You should know what they're doing in China...it'll happen here. I guess all kitchen knives will have rounded tips at some point unless you're a 'licensed' food preparer...

[@donaldasayers]

But should you find an online UK retailer blatantly selling flick knives, you try reporting them. Police aren't interested because it's 'not in their area', Trading standards can only be contacted now via the Citizens Advice Bureau. And the CAD cannot 'investigate', they cannot open links you send in an email and are just obstructive.

[@hedgerowpete]

brilliant video

[@mickymondo7463]

It is none of their business, they are legal to own and legal means none of their business. They would be better off spending their time chasing down gang bangers and ghetto rats, instead of harassing legal owners. Will they be contacting purchasers of hairdryers, lest they throw one into the bath to get rid of their spouse? Massive overreach of their powers, my own legal behaviour is of no concern of theirs. They are not the arbiters of whether something has a legitimate use or not, nor are they the arbiters of what lawful activity I may enjoy either

[@StevenDavidson-y1p]

The police all ways get it wrong instead of looking at the knife used in crime,ie what type of knife and acting on that information it’s a blanket ban,how much of a knee jerk reaction is that it’s a waste of time and money that doesn’t resolve the problem,it’s a pathetic state for a crime solved act to be in

[@nineoclockhero]

🤔Perhaps we could petition for a list of non-dangerous knives.

[@nipstyler]

A spork

[@nineoclockhero]

😀@@nipstyler

[@johnmoran6330]

Mad res on that camera blud.

[@Craig-wp3pz]

Pay cash, wear a hat, don't be a knob....... Works for me....😊

[@jumblesaleboo]

....IF they really want to apply this in a realistic and practical proactive way, rather than targeting knives that have been purchased for legal collection purposes, might I suggest, that they send a letter or physically educate those (with a note included with the knife in the shop) who purchase KITCHEN knives, as even a layman, will acknowledge that the vast majority of knives used in crime are kitchen knives, and NOT elaborate so-called intimidating collectors pieces. This is all spin, trying to make it look that they are doing something about this epidemic, when in actual fact, they are not...Remember, it is the same when they publicly display knife amnesty bin hauls...The vast majority will be kitchen knives, but to make their point stronger with the uneducated populous, will put the odd scary looking item that has been handed in on top, which to me is to push a none factual narrative, to gain support with the populous who are not aware of the facts. An inanimate object is not the root cause of the problem, it is the mind set and culture of those who are prepared to use it...Ban all knives tomorrow, and they will still fashion a shank from a piece of metal, or hard material.....Kitchen knives are easily available, and are dirt cheap, this is why they are the main choice, to carry and use.

[@stinct1776]

Sounds like knives in the UK are treated like firearms in the US

[@geezerp1982]

not really, since you dont need to go through a background check to buy a knife , adhere to 100s of laws and risk getting banned for life for any conviction for an indictable offence ! also there is plenty of legally armed citizens here as well

[@SonofChurchill]

ThatGearGuy Have good one Xmas

[@mitch3424]

No no and no again!

[@dirtygrimetunnelschannel9735]

I've been watching your videos for a little while now and I find this really worrying as I'm a gardener and most of my tools can be considered a bladed edge, I also do bushcraft as a hobby, this is a scary thing, am I gonna get arrested for doing my job or hobby. I use a Japanese hori hori tool most of the time which I'm now starting to think is in a grey area, do you personally think these would be alright?

[@thatgearguy]

Well you have a legitimate use for it. Going immediately to and from work or during work it is within the law. That doesnt mean to say you would never be arrested by over zealous officers and have to let a jury decide.

[@CuriousFocker]

I bought a Nisaku hori hori tool for my daughter, a keen gardener, she says it is the best gardening implement she has ever had.

[@inregionecaecorum]

I really do not know where this obsessions with serrations comes from, the only blades I own which are serrated are what is termed in the English language "saws" like I am about to saw the head of someone who threatens me with a baseball bat am I?. Mind you on second thoughts I could reduce that offensive piece of sporting goods to a useful bundle of kindling couldn't I?

[@tnejgardening2084]

The police do nothing when I was attacked they knew who it was but only gave them a warning

[@Andy-xt3mh]

I literally used my pen knife to cut open my pork pie and spread mustard on it just before watching this video.

[@thatgearguy]

Now Im hungry!!

[@fc55pn1]

Law & Legislation are spoken interchangeably as though the two are synonymous when they are not. The Act of Settlement (1700) confirms this by stating 'the Laws of England are the Birthright of the People thereof and all the Kings and Queens who shall ascend the Throne of this Realm ought to administer the Government of the same according to the said Laws and all their Officers and Ministers ought to serve them respectively according to the same'.

[@Si74l0rd]

9:30 Aside from the ridiculous serrations along the spine, that knife looked a lot like a Kukri, and you honestly can't get more "agricultural' than a kukri.

[@thatgearguy]

Well it representa the type of knife the Gov/Police are looking to ban under new law being pushed in. My concern is that the difference between a quality Kukri and a crappy "zombie knife" may end up lost in the wording and they all get banned. I have a Mal Parry survival knife, big, serations and a hole in the blade. It is a £300 piece. It may end up banned.

[@Si74l0rd]

@@thatgearguy Yeah my worry exactly. Especially given so many of the kukris in my collection are massively oversized ceremonial blades from an era where animist religions were practiced across Nepal. Most of them have now died out with little evidence remaining, and the blades and sheathes are some of the sole remaining relics. To me it makes them important to keep and celebrate, as a custodian of history. To the police it seems to make me some sort of dangerous madman with a *gasp* large curved blade! I'm moderately thankful that I only purchase items already within the UK these days. Usually from auction lots, and as such it's unlikely that I'll end up on any of these lists, but I definitely consider the problem to be a matter of educating the youth, not banning the tools. It's lazy lawmaking and lazy policing. As you say, once they have that list, any knife crime in your area and it'll be your door they're knocking on, and that's just unacceptable for something legally bought and owned. Further, it's extremely unlikely that course of action will find the people responsible because, as always in the UK, 90%+ of knife crimes is still carried out with grandma's paring knife, or grandpa's chisel or screwdriver. It's not a purchased knife off the internet problem the vast majority of the time.

[@AnilJedi]

I don’t believe that the statutory backdrop exists for this type of intervention. Police State … I would also think it is also unlawful collection and processing of your data etc. perhaps one for @Blackbelt Barrister to comment on. So you are writing to law abiding citizens to warn them not to break the law. How much is this costing, perhaps some real crime fighting is required.

[@mariedoyle2790]

Hobbits are a real species.

[@Halbared]

Two-tier policing.

[@mikesmith8313]

What's the point? Iduot knife laws.

[@metallitech]

You imply that people have been prosecuted for not censoring KZbin comments. This is hard to believe. Can you give any examples or references?

[@thatgearguy]

Sure. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6949889/British-gun-activist-loses-firearms-licences.html

[@mickdawson7404]

Does this scanning of packages apply to just imports or all UK bought blades as well, I am retired and have collect knive foer years, will be relly annoyed if they are confiscated for no reason other than the fact I own them

[@thatgearguy]

Not mentioned so its anyones guess!

[@mungo75]

I say old chap, is that a cravat? (Admittedly I'm only about a minute into the video 😂)

[@thatgearguy]

It is!!

[@benjaminmajor5144]

Q: If the police do turn up to your address to talk about a knife you've bought, could this count as harassment legally speaking?

[@thatgearguy]

It would not legally constitute harassment in itself. I have used the term because many find overreach to be a harassment. It would require an implied right of access which people are free to withdraw. If you are a firearm or shotgun certificate holder withdrawing implied rights of access to the Police would not be well received. The easiest option is to provide concise, clear answers and wish them a good day..

[@benjaminmajor5144]

@@thatgearguy what about if you get multiple visits for something which is perfectly legal as collectors could potentially be visited for every purchase in theory

[@thatgearguy]

@@benjaminmajor5144 You would have to evidence some sort of intimidation. A visit or visits alone are unlikely to be construed as harassment in legal terms.

[@tufty7663]

So all police officers whom have a knife in the UK will be on this database.

[@thatgearguy]

If they ordered it to turn up in the post then yes.

[@gsmith1418]

Buy an Airgun and you are on a database by having to give your details. Get a driving license your on a database. Own a firearm or shotgun your on a database. Get a knife, why not be on a database? If you’re not doing anything wrong then you don’t have to worry.

[@TBeermonster]

It is one thing if the database is underpinned by legislation - and therefore theoretically within the public ability to change via parliament. This is just police throwing something together off their own initiative. This will end up being like The Consulting Association/Economic League where a blacklisting operation is brought into force.

[@moorshound3243]

Em you seem to be a few biscuits shy of a full ration pack. Do you not understand that your government has no reason to have data on everything you do?

[@gsmith1418]

@@moorshound3243 I never did like biscuit browns or biscuit fruit. So not all that bothered. I’m not that bothered if the powers that be know if I have a knife. As I’m not doing anything wrong with it. So who cares, I’m not a conspiracist who worries about everything. Oh and I received a new spyderco in the mail for skinning rabbits and no letter or anything.

[@thatgearguy]

I am just reporting the news. I do not mind whether you like it or not.