UK's Labour Party Wins BIG In Landslide Victory

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The Young Turks

The Young Turks

7 күн бұрын

UK's new Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that the country's voters have voted “decisively for change.” Cenk Uygur, Sharon Reed and Yasmin Kahn discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: tyt.com/team
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"LONDON - Britain woke Friday to the scene of a political earthquake. The opposition Labour Party, after 14 years in the political wilderness, has handed a brutal defeat to the ruling Conservatives.
In his first speech outside his new home at number 10 Downing Street, the country's new Prime Minister Keir Starmer said people had voted “decisively for change” and the country could “move forward together.”"
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@MV-sh9gy
@MV-sh9gy 5 күн бұрын
The Labour Party isn't "left" now.
@Alex-fx5es
@Alex-fx5es 5 күн бұрын
True, but here in the U.S. he and the Labour Party would be considered left
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 5 күн бұрын
Yes it is. Just look at the commie lunatics who sit on its national policy forum.
@WilliamLi-nd4lz
@WilliamLi-nd4lz 5 күн бұрын
labour is leftist, anyone that knows the first thing about britain knows this. Keir Starmer and labour has consistently spoken for multi culturalism in britain, killing the rwanda deportation scheme and many other leftist values
@duncanbryson1167
@duncanbryson1167 5 күн бұрын
​​​​@@Alex-fx5es Being considered and what is factual aren't the same thing. America generally hasn't a clue about the political spectrum because it has no experience of anything remotely left wing. I've come across the sort of comment "things are different here" meaning America. They are NOT different, the political spectrum is the political spectrum. What differs is people's perceptions based on their views and influences ie brainwashing in many cases. Another thing that I fairly recently realised is that people hang things on the political spectrum based on their biased views. This realisation came to me when someone said being pro choice, re abortion, was an extreme left wing position. A person can be an actual socialist and be against abortion because they are a devout catholic while someone can be fairly right wing not religious and not care about people having abortions. I've been involved in politics for years at minor levels and I've been following US politics for about 8 years IN DETAIL from 🇬🇧 specifically 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@eKko0
@eKko0 5 күн бұрын
@@WilliamLi-nd4lz the dude just spent the run up to the election kicking everyone out of his party that was actually left, theyre a centrist party at best
@Kim-by5uy
@Kim-by5uy 5 күн бұрын
Lol, as a Brit I can tell you there’s nothing progressive or left about labour.
@sdagoth3037
@sdagoth3037 4 күн бұрын
But maybe, just maybe, unlike the conservatives, they won't sabotage the lives of young people in order to turn everything over to the boomers.
@jean-pierre5221
@jean-pierre5221 4 күн бұрын
TYT knows nothing about UK politics and labour is going to continue stripping the NHS.
@aliceglado
@aliceglado 4 күн бұрын
Yeah ok, Corbynite.
@waryaawariiri1812
@waryaawariiri1812 4 күн бұрын
Kicking out Jeremy Corbyn alone is an unforgivable sin. I am glad he retained his seat as an independent.
@antclerfont8478
@antclerfont8478 3 күн бұрын
Sure..... Whatever you say. Labor sounds like a lifeline to a lot of people, so I wouldn't underestimate...
@EoamerGaming97
@EoamerGaming97 5 күн бұрын
Cenk, for god sake Stop labelling Starmer as Left.The guy literally purged the left and anyone who spoke on Gaza from his party to get where he is now..Atleast give him the proper salutations!
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 5 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 5 күн бұрын
by Am3ric4n standards he is a communist.
@Alex-fx5es
@Alex-fx5es 5 күн бұрын
not left - but still more left than the Conservatives
@fightclubify
@fightclubify 5 күн бұрын
@@EoamerGaming97 Well stated, EoamerGaming97.
@famalam943
@famalam943 5 күн бұрын
He purged the corbynite leftists. Labour are very much left wing, just not with the cranks any longer
@gallsoutube
@gallsoutube 4 күн бұрын
Labour is NOT a left wing party. Quite the opposite. You need to do better research. Labour has embraced big business and the donations are coming in fast. The Tories and Labour are interchangeable. They have rolled back on the climate crisis, and the landslide was with the lowest turnout. Voter suppression is very real in the UK
@ahmadyusof2480
@ahmadyusof2480 4 күн бұрын
You are right.
@joshbedford4889
@joshbedford4889 5 күн бұрын
Labour didn't win: Conservatives lost.
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 5 күн бұрын
Well put.
@TelephoneToughGuy
@TelephoneToughGuy 5 күн бұрын
Labour won *because* conservatives lost.
@inspirationalvideos1966
@inspirationalvideos1966 5 күн бұрын
London here. Most people l work with did not vote. We are sick and tired of the political class. Labour will be little different to the Tories. Look at the polling turn out, it the lowest on record. Until we change the current 'First Past the Post' system, and use a more progressive 'proportion representation', then people's votes will mean nothing.
@joshbedford4889
@joshbedford4889 5 күн бұрын
Canada here. We have a similar problem here in Canada, but instead of a string of incompetent PMs, we just have had just the one, with a jaw-dropping list of scandals. Conservatives are set to win our next election in 2025, but polling similarly shows that Canadians are not excited about it. (I am, but I don't shape polls)
@danthsmith
@danthsmith 5 күн бұрын
I think you'll find Kier Starmer is PM
@DougGrinbergs
@DougGrinbergs 5 күн бұрын
Labour Party, which kicked out Jeremy Corbyn, who ran as, and won, as independent
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 5 күн бұрын
Corbyn is a decent man (unlike Grifty George Galloway, the con artist) but he is not a Labour man, he's a socialist. There's nothing wrong with being a socialist, it's a perfectly honourable position to hold, but Labour were built to deliver political power to the workers, not socialism. In fact, the labour movement which the UK Labour Party is the Global head of has brought down more socialist (and other) tyrannical regimes than all the wars combined, including the Soviet Union itself.
@famalam943
@famalam943 5 күн бұрын
In his constituency which he always wins. It doesn’t mean what you think it does. Labour lost every election under Corbyn
@DavidBritton-nl1wv
@DavidBritton-nl1wv 5 күн бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn? One of the biggest bullets the UK ever dodged when he lost the election.
@JongeMatador
@JongeMatador 5 күн бұрын
He also failed miserably to control anti-Semitism within his own party
@adelahogarth2761
@adelahogarth2761 5 күн бұрын
@@DavidBritton-nl1wv Why? Because you think a dude screaming about how the UK should push for first strike nuclear capability and making nuclear exchange policy a; "LOL, we're so random..." platform is a good idea? Or because you like Keir's particular brand of just repeating transphobic nonsense like their Tory counterparts? Or how Keir literally just silences critique on Israeli activities now not merely against Palestinians, but extended to outright attacks against the Lebanese? Oooh ... or the fact that literally UK voters disagree with you and how Starmer's LP is 10% less popular than Corbyn's LP? I mean... tell me where to begin and finish? Because frankly Keir only has the apathy of UK voters, not their support--And a right wing LP with a right wing opposition, in a country that hates *both,* is not a great bullet-dodging machine. It's literally not unlike Americans having a choice between an outright fascist, and a neocon that can't remember what day of the week it is.
@Cremenium
@Cremenium 5 күн бұрын
No Starmerites’ Labour is not left at all.
@adelahogarth2761
@adelahogarth2761 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, and more people voted for Corbyn's LP than Starmer's. And the two-faced nature of TYT, they cry about what's happening about Gaza--While simultaneously pretending like Corbyn, the guy that actively championed a ceasefire, was somehow 'incapable of populism'. TYT are nothing but two-faced Brownshirts in hiding. They cry about Gaza, then smear the predecessor who was more popular, and could have pushed the Palestinian cause with an *even bigger* share of government MPs that refused to work with UK fascists. But instead the UK gets a Labour Party that does nothing but mouth hatreds about trans people and minorities constantly... Lead by a guy that thinks; 'Nukes are a deterrence and we should blow up random patches of earth *first* before 'the enemy' does to show ours work.' Corbyn wanted to de-escalate and promised he'd never use nukes first in office, because he understood the war in Ukraine required stabilization and nobody wants Ukraine to build into a possible full blown nuclear exchange. Now we have a Starmer, who is not as popular as Corbyn's LP, saying; 'LOL, we should be random about our nuclear exchange capacity and protocols. First strike capability all the way! Also we should segregate trans people from society and refuse to help anybody suffering dysphoria... Also I see nothing wrong with turning Gaza into dust." TYT should just swap out their wardrobes for an all brown ensemble and stop pretending, already.
@WilliamLi-nd4lz
@WilliamLi-nd4lz 5 күн бұрын
labour is leftist, anyone that knows the first thing about britain knows this. Keir Starmer and labour has consistently spoken for multi culturalism in britain, killing the rwanda deportation scheme and many other leftist values
@Minilife-km8oy
@Minilife-km8oy 5 күн бұрын
@@Cremenium yes it is. It’s just not FAR left. Which is a great thing because most of the UK population is centre left which this Labour Party represents now.
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 4 күн бұрын
​@@Minilife-km8oy Nonsense. They call themselves centre and moderate but poll them on policy and they support "far left" economic policy.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
Exactly, ​ The votes Tories lost didn't go to labor who won exactly the same amount of votes as 2019. They all went to Reform Party which is quite Trumpian. Repform cut the votes from Tories pushing Labor over the line in First Past the Post system. Plus Labor has to move massively to the right to gain the votes. The only real difference I could find between Tories and Labor was that labor was against the Rwanda program and wanted to strengthen the border instead. The reason for Tories losing wasn't that they were right wing. The reason was the idiotic division they faced after ousting Johnson and installing Truss and then Sunak - neither of whom had a public mandate to be the PM. UK seems to be on a rightward tilt when you look at the actual picture instead of just the labels. But don't expect TYT to understand any of that. They have a half dimensional view of politics
@07jonesj
@07jonesj 5 күн бұрын
It always hurts a little bit when I see TYT cover UK politics, because they clearly don't do that much research on it. It wasn't a crazy stupid decision that Rishi Sunak made to call the election - the big corporations saw that the wind was shifting to Labour and hopped onto the bandwagon, giving Sunak the all-clear to get it over with. If you think it's an accident that the Murdoch-controlled press went so easy on Starmer, you're not paying attention. Starmer intends to keep continuity economics-wise with the Conservative government and won't rock the boat. He's not left-wing. He's centre-right, if anything. His Health Secretary is all for private healthcare, for example.
@WillNewcomb
@WillNewcomb 5 күн бұрын
@@07jonesj Absolutely!
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 5 күн бұрын
They said the same about Blair, then the Blair government delivered the second highest expansion of wealth between the working and lower middle classes in UK history and built more than any UK government since WW2 in terms of infrastructure, healthcare and education resources. We hear this before every election then after Labour get in we see the total opposite EVERY SINGLE TIME. So, from where does this come from? Tory propaganda in the Tory client media, they pump out 2 messages, one fear based and the false equivalency logical fallacy. The latter is what you've fallen for, it is pumped out to garner 2 reactions: 1. You might as well stick to the Tories, they're all the same. 2. If you can't stomach the Tories then there's no point in voting because they're all the same. Records show that despite the message being pumped out 24/7 during every Tory reign the 6 Labour governments have never governed like Tory governments, they never have and never will. The Liberals will if they ever get the chance, they were literally created by businessmen for businessmen. The Tories represent land owners and farmers, why do you think they betrayed the corporate and business sector in 2016? Very few corporates and businessmen are living top 1% lifestyles, most of them do have to work for their money. Murdoch always publicly shifts his "support" to Labour the moment it's obvious Labour are coming to power, he just reacts to the way the wind is blowing. No doubt he's praying that Labour don't introduce Levinson, well tough shit Rupert they've already begun working on Levinson 2 to follow Levinson which is to be fully implemented this Parliament with 2 likely being a manifesto commitment at the next General Election.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 5 күн бұрын
Its worse when Vaush covers UK politics - he know absolutely NOTHING and says the dum6est stuff
@famalam943
@famalam943 5 күн бұрын
Calling Starmer centre right is crazy lmao. It’s that novara brain rot
@gameofender4463
@gameofender4463 5 күн бұрын
@@famalam943Exactly when, if I’m not mistaken, Starmer wants to nationalise the energy companies (GB Energy). Pretty sure that’s not a right wing idea. 😂
@Heru3005
@Heru3005 5 күн бұрын
As an American, let me just apologize to Brits for this half assed analysis by my countrymen. Yes, there was an anti-Tory vote, but most of that went to the Lib Dems and Reform, not Labour. Most of that vote was disaffected Tories themselves. The vote share for Labour is actually similar to the share they got in 2019, and is far less then 2017. Basically, Labour didn't win, the Conservatives lost.
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 5 күн бұрын
Exactly right. Nicely put.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 5 күн бұрын
That's what usually happens, the governing party runs out of steam. Another factor is having a series of incompetent prime ministers.
@danthsmith
@danthsmith 5 күн бұрын
NO, most went to Labour. Admittedly we have an unfair system But in 1st past the post biggest vote gets the constituency. How is that electoral college working out for you? How many senators does Wyoming have?
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 4 күн бұрын
​@@danthsmith Most went to Labour but they didn't make any gains on a national scale on Corbyn's vote share or totals. Turnout was low, the right wing vote split between Tories and Reform, and a a lot of the Tories heartlands in the south went Lib Dem
@Heru3005
@Heru3005 4 күн бұрын
@@danthsmith Most went for Labour? The math simply doesn't support that assertion, at all. The Labour share was up %1.7 since 2019, while the Tories lost %19.9. That math simply doesn't add up. I'm also acutely aware of the failings of our system here in America. Personally i'd prefer something more akin to the Canadian system, but thats just a pipe dream.
@roc7880
@roc7880 5 күн бұрын
they are not left, just conservatives without the racism and nepotism.
@JayzVeez
@JayzVeez 5 күн бұрын
Oh they're just as racist. Have you not heard Starmer threatening to deport Bangladeshis?
@excessivegrot2643
@excessivegrot2643 5 күн бұрын
I didn’t realise that nationalising energy and rail were conservative policies
@sd8974
@sd8974 5 күн бұрын
Nah, they've still got their hierarchy of racism don't forget! And we'll see about the nepotism...
@adampike3834
@adampike3834 5 күн бұрын
Investing in green energy, social housing, decentralising some power, creating nationalised energy, cracking down on tax loopholes, investing in public education and the NHS are all now Conservative policies folks. The online brain rot really has taken hold of progressives.
@user-sw2eg9lg2t
@user-sw2eg9lg2t 4 күн бұрын
@@excessivegrot2643 Except he's not really promising to do either of those things, and he;s already walked back on so many promises he may well do that with even his half-baked half-nationalisation policies.
@jordan4547
@jordan4547 4 күн бұрын
The uk Labour Party is not left
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
It's pragmatic social democratic
@wearebecomedeathstar2658
@wearebecomedeathstar2658 4 күн бұрын
Calling it turning left is a bit much, Starmer got fewer votes than Corbin did in the end because Labor has just become the new Tories now.
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 4 күн бұрын
So how did Corbyn get on in government?
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
Exactly. The votes Tories lost didn't go to labor who won exactly the same amount of votes as 2019. They all went to Reform Party which is quite Trumpian. Repform cut the votes from Tories pushing Labor over the line in First Past the Post system. Plus Labor has to move massively to the right to gain the votes. The only real difference I could find between Tories and Labor was that labor was against the Rwanda program and wanted to strengthen the border instead. The reason for Tories losing wasn't that they were right wing. The reason was the idiotic division they faced after ousting Johnson and installing Truss and then Sunak - neither of whom had a public mandate to be the PM. UK seems to be on a rightward tilt when you look at the actual picture instead of just the labels. You just replaced one corporate stooge for another. But don't expect TYT to understand any of that. They have a half dimensional view of politics
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 5 күн бұрын
2019 Labour got 10.26m votes, this time 2024 Labour got 9.6m votes, this is an embarrassment.
@wearebecomedeathstar2658
@wearebecomedeathstar2658 4 күн бұрын
Starmer did his best to sabotage Labor but failed.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 4 күн бұрын
@@wearebecomedeathstar2658 that tool is not suitable for sabotage or to help.
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 4 күн бұрын
But Starmer had a hugely efficient vote. Getting 10.26m bites in seats with HUGE margins is utterly pointless in our system. With your maths, Reform should have 160 seats? Aye, right 🤣
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 4 күн бұрын
@@MIEJ4 my point is that Starmer is a vote loser from Jeremy Corbyn, Starmer only win what was handed to him.
@scatman0925
@scatman0925 3 күн бұрын
Its hilarious watching yanks who know nothing about british politics talk about it.
@morrigansraven
@morrigansraven 3 күн бұрын
The ''corporate rule'' thing is what makes me smile. Do they not realise that corporations here haven't been given the legal green light to bribe politicans willy nilly? We know it happens, but when they're caught pocketing the ''brown envelopes'' they typically resign within a day or two of the scandal breaking. As someone who studied the American system and has a good knowledge of US politics, I'm so glad that we have a parliamentary system, where extremists on either side don't do particularly well.
@ozchris1
@ozchris1 5 күн бұрын
The Tories weren't only defeated they were practically destroyed. Unfortunately, Starmer's Labour are a centre-right party. This was an election to Get The Tories Out, rather than to get Labour in.
@steveturner609
@steveturner609 5 күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍Exactly!!
@user-sw2eg9lg2t
@user-sw2eg9lg2t 5 күн бұрын
It's a joke calling Starmer's labour progressive.
@crazyottsel23
@crazyottsel23 4 күн бұрын
Who said that in the video?
@user-sw2eg9lg2t
@user-sw2eg9lg2t 4 күн бұрын
@@crazyottsel23 The reporter in the video they showed, and Cenk called them left-wing. They're neither..
@DUNFERMLINEBOY1
@DUNFERMLINEBOY1 2 күн бұрын
I like watching you guys and I am in Scotland BUT I have to disagree with you it wasn't simply about change for changes sake During the Covid Pandemic the then British Prime minister Boris Johnson was FINED by police for breaching his OWN COVID LAWS! They were have parties in Downing Street and all sorts when many couldn't attend to their own dying relatives and had to say good bye over facetime and messenger! Cumulatively it was known as Partygate! There was a lot of anger over that. Sunak himself was fined for not wearing a seatbelt in a car There was so much hypocrisy from ministers breaking their own laws at the time that they were never going to fully recover Yes Brexit has caused a lot of anger and many who voted for it now regretting doing so because its been a lot harder to get medicines specifically into the country since the scrapping of the single marker But also supermarkets struggling to get a lot of products that were before easily obtained A lot of people lost their jobs over the pandemic and now we are in a cost of living crises as well So am sorry have to disagree that it is just change for changes sake. People had enough of the tories.
@philipdefrancisco7540
@philipdefrancisco7540 4 күн бұрын
The citizenry of the U.K. has been struggling economically and the ruling party of 14 years has been kicked out and people make predictions of things being worse? Really? Take some responsibility, conservatives. Your policies of 14 years have been rejected.
@lours6993
@lours6993 5 күн бұрын
Could American journals perhaps take 20 seconds to understand that England is one of SEVERAL countries that comprise the UK. These are UK elections.
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 4 күн бұрын
yet England has 533 seats out of 650 in House of Commons. Thats 82%. Basically how England votes decides the UK elections.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
nah. England is fine tyvm
@DallasRabot
@DallasRabot 4 күн бұрын
Whinging poms… you guys make it confusing with your ‘country within a country’ bs. Some of your sports teams say England, some say Great Britain, some other event it will be something else, and then you complain that the rest of the world gets it wrong. We just don’t give a crap what you have decided to call yourselves for your next world stage event. It’s not like you guys can even remember half the names of the countries that you guys had colonised.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
​@@DallasRabot lol 100% true. not to mention the flags. Is it gonna be the cross or the X or both or all of them. We have a life and Britts should get one too. They cant even remember all of the countries they are currently occupying. Outside of Wales, Scotland and Ireland
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
​@@wrongturnVforwhat countries are we occupying?
@tatreides8425
@tatreides8425 5 күн бұрын
We haven’t turned left. Starmer’s policy’s are near identical to the conservative.
@agorgedslug
@agorgedslug 5 күн бұрын
Yep, a watered down version.
@adampike3834
@adampike3834 5 күн бұрын
Investing in green energy, social housing, decentralising some power, creating nationalised energy, cracking down on tax loopholes, investing in public education and the NHS are all now Conservative policies folks. The online brain rot really has taken hold of progressives.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
Much strengthened workers rights, more power to trade unions for collective bargaining in pay agreements, bringing in a proper living wage, decarbonising the power grid, building 1.5 million new homes, going after the water companies to get sewage out of our rivers, and so on. That doesn't sound much like the Conservatives
@AD65
@AD65 5 күн бұрын
Please please please stop referring to the UK as England.
@gameofender4463
@gameofender4463 5 күн бұрын
Imagine if Brits started just calling America, California. Or Biden the President of New York etc. That’s how ridiculous it is.
@a8283371
@a8283371 5 күн бұрын
England is part of the United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland form the remaining parts.
@gameofender4463
@gameofender4463 5 күн бұрын
@@a8283371 Except some people call it England because they don’t know that.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
Well, I mean it is England if you remove all the terroties you are illegally occupying. Didnt a party gain seats in elections which used to be associated with the IRA. Dont fight it, you ain't gonna win, England
@joshualane1002
@joshualane1002 5 күн бұрын
Labour isn’t left anymore
@Gerrygambone
@Gerrygambone 5 күн бұрын
The Liberal Democrats and the Greens are more Left Wing than Labour. Loved it when Lizz Truss lost her seat.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
Labour has been pragmatic social democratic
@joshualane1002
@joshualane1002 4 күн бұрын
@@richardhoffmann179 there’s nothing remotely pragmatic about kier snakey, yes.
@carpediem4108
@carpediem4108 5 күн бұрын
Keir Stirmer's Labour party is more right wing than John Major's Conservative.
@user-zo9dx6sc3r
@user-zo9dx6sc3r 5 күн бұрын
Starmer is no Blair. Pre Iraq Blair was hugely popular. He even got Murdoch's endorsement.
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 4 күн бұрын
Thats because England, who has 82% of the seats in the Commons, is an extreme right wing country. England's politics would be somewhat similar to the south. I feel sorry for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland having to be in a union with England.
@ertannebi3181
@ertannebi3181 4 күн бұрын
@@stackhat8624true🙌🙌
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
​@@stackhat8624England has been socially small C conservative for a long time
@tonysherrard
@tonysherrard 5 күн бұрын
For those crying that Labour got less voter share than last time - if you didn't get off your lazy arse and go out to vote, too bad. It's people like me that do go out and vote that decide your future.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 5 күн бұрын
We voted for competent government.
@danthsmith
@danthsmith 5 күн бұрын
Starmer won in the UK not just England
@gameofender4463
@gameofender4463 5 күн бұрын
Some Americans seem like they can only think of England when it comes to the U.K.
@a8283371
@a8283371 5 күн бұрын
Also look at Scotland and Wales, SNP lost most of its seats to labour.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
​@@a8283371and Wales is a Conservative free zone
@matthewjohnston3195
@matthewjohnston3195 3 күн бұрын
It's not England, it's the UK.
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon 3 күн бұрын
American education system in action
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
​@bonbonvegabon yeah, they're thick as pigshit
@anttivirolainen8223
@anttivirolainen8223 5 күн бұрын
8:39 Sunak didn't have much choice. The deadline of the elections would have been next year, but Sunak probably calculated correctly that the Conservatives' chances would only worsen as the months went by. What could have changed voters' minds after 14 years of turmoil that led to the national decline? Sunak thought, why prolong the inevitable, and he was surely right about that.
@VictorianDad
@VictorianDad 5 күн бұрын
Glad that Brits like me are pointing out that this is not a massive vote for Starmer and Labour. Starmer got a 33% vote share. A third of the vote on a 60% turnout. Which means only 20% of the UK electorate voted for Labour. Starmer will say that he has a mandate. He doesn't. He got a million fewer votes than Corbyn did in 2019, which was characterised as a disastrous result. The First Past The Post electoral system delivered this landslide.
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 5 күн бұрын
Agreed I am a Brit and Labour supporter BUT this was in no way a Labour victory it was a split in the right-wing vote that's all
@stevecooke2893
@stevecooke2893 5 күн бұрын
Couple of things, first past the post keeps reform from being a serious party, I'd be grateful for that alone. Second, nobody is gonna change the system, they've tried and failed miserably. Nobody wants a system where you could lose the vote and still become pm. Third, it's really a 2 party system and tories screwed up nearly every single day of the campaign. A pantomime horse would beat these tory clowns. Finally, Labour now out number the opposition 2 to 1 almost. When that happens, serious change usually comes, change like the NHS. It might be central left, but it beats bickering crazies on the right
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 4 күн бұрын
If you dont vote you dont count. A mandate is a mandate. Labour has control of parliament and the government. Thats a mandate.
@colins3688
@colins3688 5 күн бұрын
This is dumb. Maybe people form outside shouldn't talk about stuff they don't know. Labour is not the left
@kingdaniel69
@kingdaniel69 3 күн бұрын
And that’s how power gets transferred peacefully, with grace and respect.
@peterguthrie5018
@peterguthrie5018 4 күн бұрын
The one thing we have in common is - we want to reject the shallowness and intellectual dishonesty of Populism.
@systemai
@systemai 4 күн бұрын
It didn't turn left, it has stabilised to the center.
@detritus666
@detritus666 3 күн бұрын
Sorry to have to pick up on this, but it's in the UK, not England - the 2 things are definitely not equivalent....
@derekrequiem4359
@derekrequiem4359 5 күн бұрын
This is more of a loss for Tories than it is a win for Labour. And more like "UK turns center" rather than "UK turns left".
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 5 күн бұрын
40% of the electorate didn't even vote because they hate the political class. Labour didn't get anymore votes than normal. In fact, they got less votes and less vote share than Corbyn - who the establishment called an extremist. The reason Labour won is because Reform, an anti immigration, far right party recently created, split the Tory vote.
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 5 күн бұрын
One in five people voted for Starmer's Labour. That's 9.5 million out of 48 million voters. So the UK didn't turn center.
@derekrequiem4359
@derekrequiem4359 5 күн бұрын
​@@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv Are you including the Lib Dems in that one in five figure?
@eKko0
@eKko0 5 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv plus "split the tory vote" is probably only partly true, you can claim that just cause theyre both right wing everyone that voted for reform would have voted tory if there was no reform thats prettty much guaranteed not to be how that works
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 5 күн бұрын
@@eKko0 The turnout was 60%. 40% didn't even vote. Less people voted for Starmer than Jeremy Corbyn. Starmer, in his own constituency, had a turnout of 53%. His majority fell. He's clearly not liked. Watch the disaster unfold over the next few years. The only reason he won is because the Tory vote collapsed. It was actually less than 1 in 5 who voted for Labour. 😂
@charliet1882
@charliet1882 2 күн бұрын
Jenk is right: This isn't the UK turning left, just exasperation with 14 years of Tory incompetence.
@gasparomarsala6078
@gasparomarsala6078 5 күн бұрын
Labour Won 60% of seats with 30% of actual votes .. Labour aggregate vote was up about 1% with a shit apathetic electorate .. sorry more about first past post electoral system and a shitty conservative party than an endorsement of labour.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 5 күн бұрын
In absolute terms Labour actually lost votes compared to 2017.
@geoffreyduckworth6062
@geoffreyduckworth6062 5 күн бұрын
@@Tulkash01 And compared with 2019 Labour increased their vote share, 2019 32.1% 2024 33.8%. But in the UK vote share doesn't matter, seats won is all that counts. Hopefully the FPTP system will be replaced with a genuinely PR system, but the Tories were not complaining about FPTP when they won a big majority of seats on a minority percentage of the votes
@jimmeltonbradley1497
@jimmeltonbradley1497 5 күн бұрын
The left is not happy because Starmer has moved the Labour party to the centre in order to make it electable. And, if you look at his Cabinet appointments, you'll see he has gone for competence rather than ideology. The aim is to actually get stuff done, rather than spend time polishing their principles - which is what the Corbynistas like to do. I'm a (72 year old) life-long leftie, but there is nothing less edifying than hearing left-wing ideologues whining because they haven't got everything they want. They would rather stay in opposition and keep their ideology pure, than get into power where reality might tarnish their simplistic principles.
@memrjohnno
@memrjohnno 5 күн бұрын
Centre lol.
@w0033944
@w0033944 5 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 5 күн бұрын
The UK people want what they consider the NECESSITIES, ie., an end to absurdly over the top austerity, funding for the NHS and NOT private health care, a reduction in university tuition, and HOUSING. If those things are not accomplished, the UK public will roar. THOSE ARE NOT "LEFTIST" IDEALS, those are requirements and not left.
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely right and with more Labour lefties would wake up to this.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
Well Corbyn was a faff with idiotic policies, in my personal opinion
@grahammalcolm7130
@grahammalcolm7130 5 күн бұрын
It's not England the election is of Great Britain . Scotland England Wales Northern Ireland
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
I am asuming you arent British. because Great Britain just means the largest island and doesn't cover all the illegally occupied territories. Britts would claim it is UK. Americans insist on calling it England, I have no clue why you are an odd one out
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
​@wrongturnVfor to be specific its the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. I have no idea what occupied territories you are on about.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 3 күн бұрын
​@@richardhoffmann179 Exactly my point. You cant name them, can you. Do you even know they exist?
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor there's no illegal occupation
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 3 күн бұрын
​@@richardhoffmann179 lol. Spoken like a true coloniser. Carry on oppressors. Continue with ENGLAD's ELECTION coverage. Come back when you can name all your illegally occupied colonies
@djsapien3448
@djsapien3448 5 күн бұрын
Went from a torie zionist imperialist to a labour zionist imperialist. Now that's what I call democracy.😂
@adampike3834
@adampike3834 5 күн бұрын
Good lord, you folks really need to go outside for a while. That issue has rotted your brain.
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 4 күн бұрын
Labour is far from perfect but they are better than the Tories. Anyone who says they're exactly the same are idiots and deserve Tory rule.
@TheFakeGooberGoblin
@TheFakeGooberGoblin 4 күн бұрын
Define Zionism
@alca200
@alca200 3 күн бұрын
​@@TheFakeGooberGoblindo some research, don't be lazy!!!
@TheFakeGooberGoblin
@TheFakeGooberGoblin 3 күн бұрын
@@alca200 Oh trust me I know what it is. But I also know what it isn’t and know how much people love throwing that word around because they are anti- a certain group of people (something they used to use as an insult for far right people) since it’s socially acceptable to do so rn. Just like somehow you can’t be white without being racist, everyone knows Zionist just means you are Jewish regardless of if you’re from Israel or not. I just wanna hear the people labeling others Zionist and imperialist admit they are racist.
@josephforrest3713
@josephforrest3713 5 күн бұрын
Progressive my arse lol
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
It's a lot more than the previous lot
@Anp562
@Anp562 5 күн бұрын
Turns left is incorrect. More like “abandons conservatives”
@kierenbuckley370
@kierenbuckley370 5 күн бұрын
this Labour is not left wing they are Centre Right
@joshualane1002
@joshualane1002 5 күн бұрын
Exactly that it’s annoying it’s being reported like this
@jamoco1
@jamoco1 5 күн бұрын
centre right of extreme left
@steveturner609
@steveturner609 5 күн бұрын
@@jamoco1????? U.K. Labour Party has NEVER been extreme Left, you need to go and do some Research!!
@steveturner609
@steveturner609 5 күн бұрын
Rishi Sunak was quite possibly ( along with Liz Truss) the most pathetic, inept, arrogant, incompetent, PM that the U.K. has ever had!!
@jamoco1
@jamoco1 4 күн бұрын
@@steveturner609 thhey are so far left they apear on the extrem right, bunch of tommy tankers. They encorage you to work hard save you hard earned, then take it and give it to scumbags that have never worked a day
@lucindasmith589
@lucindasmith589 5 күн бұрын
No matter who you vote for the government still gets into power.
@nicholasr39
@nicholasr39 4 күн бұрын
Nothing "left" about New Labour
@rosalindasculturalcabana8581
@rosalindasculturalcabana8581 4 күн бұрын
I'm a Brit. What 'did the Conservatives in' was 14 years of irresponsible government that pandered to their corporate overlords who created Brexit , a concept they were able to promote via the non-dom media moguls;.This left the less well informed ignorant of what it was really about, namely the changes about to occur in EU legislation relating to taxation for non-dom individuals and the loophole that allowed global corporations to not pay appropriate tax in the UK. In addition, their appalling leadership choices, exhibiting a combination of outrageous behaviour and constant in fighting sealed their fate. For now, it is unclear as to how well Starmer & Co will fare. However, rather than the euphoria that followed the election of Blair, which mirrored that of both Clinton and Obama, there is a melding of hope and skepticism as we wait to see what they offer.. In my opinion, this is a healthy way to approach politics. At least in this country, we have a democratic process that is not driven by individual and corporate wealth in the same way as it is in the States. I think The Young Turks is a great channel, but I would suggest you need to change the balance of presenters to include more non-Americans. That would enrich your content enormously.
@JayTee2985
@JayTee2985 2 күн бұрын
Surprised it took 14 years. Late better than never.
@MrDragon1968
@MrDragon1968 2 күн бұрын
This is such a hilariously bad analysis of our election.
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 4 күн бұрын
I think people in the US don't realize that being a moderate in the UK is still more left to any Democrat in the US
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 4 күн бұрын
Hence their poverty
@isabelstokes4042
@isabelstokes4042 2 күн бұрын
The election was in the UK, not just England. Starmer is the best thing that has happened to us for years.
@user-pf6ve1jx6p
@user-pf6ve1jx6p 2 күн бұрын
Starmer is owned by the Israeli lobby and he’s a self serving right wing pleb.
@Just-Ignore-It_88
@Just-Ignore-It_88 Күн бұрын
I trust Jeremy Corbyn to run Labour. I voted for them back in 2019 but not this time due to Starver (captain hindsight).
@davedavids57
@davedavids57 Күн бұрын
@@user-pf6ve1jx6p Just because he kicked the anti Semites out. Exactly what is your policy towards Israel? Shout really really loud? Boycott Eurovision, stop the imports of all the guns they sell to us. Israel's war on Gaza is terrible. But you have to have a sensible policy that might help not just shouting and jumping up and down aggressively demanding start that won't be achieved.
@user-pf6ve1jx6p
@user-pf6ve1jx6p Күн бұрын
@@davedavids57 I don’t recall advocating for aggression or shouting that’s your fantasy. Yes the situation in Gaza is terrible I’d go so far as to calling it a Genocide and consequently it’s important not to be complicit in a Genocide and let a Genocidal nation dictate UK foreign policy. Being anti Israel is not being antisemitic and as hard as Israel tries to make this false equivalency and as much as our corrupt politicians take Zionist money to put legislation in place to use the suffering of the Jewish people in order to prop up a fascist regime it still doesn’t change material reality that Israel is a racist settler colonial project ethnically cleansing an entire indigenous population…and please do us both a favour and don’t come back with the usual Israeli talking points of self defence when according to international law Palestinians have the legal right to defend against their annihilation. Israel is the 4th largest military power in the planet and Palestinians don’t even have an official army. Never again means never again for everyone. Starmer is in Zionists pocket…stop arming Israel and suspend diplomatic relations with a nation the ICJ is investigating for Genocide do not take their money have some human decency that’s realistic. Don’t be a racist Islamaphobe and pretend you care about Jewish people when what you care about is a fascist dictator and government. Starmer won this election by pandering to the far right. He’s a racist piece of cr@p.
@nounnoun
@nounnoun 4 күн бұрын
To be fair, it's fallacious to purport that Kier Starmer's Labour party is leftist. Labour Party, is more centralist, like today's Democrats
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 4 күн бұрын
And that is because they want to get elected. You can’t do anything if you aren’t in power.
@Erschophone
@Erschophone 4 күн бұрын
@@MIEJ4 Horseshit. How do you explain that Corbin won a million more votes in 2019, than Stammerer in 2024?
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
Today's Labour Party is more centre left than your Democrat Party
@Kavafy
@Kavafy 5 күн бұрын
"in England" Great start guys
@OllyRoberton
@OllyRoberton 4 күн бұрын
I am a very happy man to see my country reject the Conservative Party in an epic fashion. Keir Starmer is to the left of virtually every politician in the US, but he had to appeal to the centre-right & centre-left to win the election. Our country is significantly more left-wing than the US, so it’s difficult to make sober comparisons with America as your Overton window is way off to the right…
@jamesryan4325
@jamesryan4325 4 күн бұрын
Starmer would fit right in with the establishment dems. He's far from progressive. He's a corporatist and a zionist.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
​@@jamesryan4325bollocks
@alexandermcadam8435
@alexandermcadam8435 5 күн бұрын
No they don't turn left. Says a lot about the Overton window that you think Stamer is left. Headline should've been "Britain moves slightly away from the right and closer to the centre."
@spursgog835
@spursgog835 3 күн бұрын
Stop referring to Britain as England. Time you people got to know the difference!
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 5 күн бұрын
I'm English, Starer is just the same as the ones he replaced, red or blue a Tory is a Tory.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 5 күн бұрын
Please correct me if I am wrong but according to my understanding UK has seen a decided right shift in these elections. Labor got almost exactly the same votes as 2019 and they had to make a massive rightward (centrist in general) turn to do that. They won elections because Tories lost their support which went to the Reform party which I seem to understand is quite Trumpian? Yeah? And didn't an IRA linked party also become mainstream? Tories and LAbor are basically the same WEF pigs right now. That is the best way I can describe it.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 4 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor mostly yes, most votes moved to Reform an even more extreme right wing party then the Tory party but Labour is believed to be on the left, despite Starmer being annoying but. so the right wing votes stayed on the right, the left votes wrongly stayed Labour or some moved the Greens to only left left as I like to put it. … overall Labour only won because the Troyes time was up nothing more and the left, right balance stayed about the same.
@mjq1602
@mjq1602 4 күн бұрын
Think you will be proved wrong in that. Just look at the 3 appointments he made they weren’t even politicians. It shows how fair and honest he wants to be.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
​@@chrisgriffin698 If you still call labor as "left wing" then I am not sure you understand left wing or right wing or what policies labor is proposing. Stahmer literally purged the party of any left wing ideology. They are basically the new Tories without the Rwanda plan
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 3 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor Starmer is right wing yes but so many Labour voters stayed believing "wrongly" that Labour was still a left party as it was under JC.
@rghuyx-4tlkg
@rghuyx-4tlkg 5 күн бұрын
Labour are centrists not left
@danthsmith
@danthsmith 5 күн бұрын
They are left compared with any US party
@crotchet1586
@crotchet1586 5 күн бұрын
Starmer is on record as saying he's proud to be called a conservative.
@ljt3084
@ljt3084 5 күн бұрын
@@danthsmith Why would you make a comparison with the US. They are not running in the US. Thats like comparing British conservatives with US republicans. Both have completely different policies.
@eKko0
@eKko0 5 күн бұрын
@@danthsmith thats not how that works, modern day conservatives are to the left of the N@zees but that doesnt make them objectively left
@danthsmith
@danthsmith 5 күн бұрын
@@ljt3084 both believe in small state/low tax/anti-union stuff with a garnish of culture wars. British tories are less outright insane. They actually acknowledge climate change even if they don't want to do anything about it. Less gun insanity and religious mania in the UK
@timwoodger7896
@timwoodger7896 5 күн бұрын
Corporate socialists out Corporate socialists back in. National socialists waiting in the wings and democratic socialists blacklisted by the establishment…. Same old story , different faces🥱
@scratch872
@scratch872 2 сағат бұрын
Come on America , its the U.K not England
@ljt3084
@ljt3084 5 күн бұрын
New Labour under Starmer isn't left wing. He moved the party further right with his purging out of the original left wing MPs and party members/donors and refusing to acknowledge the NHS and Transport unions during the strikes of 2023. Interviewing Owen Jones, a lifelong Labour member until this year and a British journalist would be wise to get the full story on Starmer's new Labour. He quit membership after Starmer's behaviour over the Unions and finally his stance on Gaza. Centrist right party now with corporate sponsorship deals with Black rock used to finance the election campaign. Starmer also parachuted members of the Friends of Israel lobby group (UK version of AIPAC) into safe seats in the UK, such as Luke Akehurst and removed MPs who gave vocal support to Palestine from the party to do so. Around 70 of the Labour MPs are signed into that Lobby group. Starmer also denounced both the muslim and Bengali communities shortly before the election who historically have always been left wing Labour voters. Several independents running on the Gaza policy actually beat Labour MPs. Jonathan Ashworth was one such Labour MP who lost his seat this way after supporting Starmer's cut off power/water to Gaza statement he made last November. New Labour only achieved this landslide victory because the population wanted the conservatives out of power so desperately. They only obtained 34% of the vote to do so because the voter turn out was so low. Approx 50% of registered voters didn't cast a ballot. The numbers reflect this. Poor voting turnout and low results for winning candidates. Starmer won his constituency with less votes than he did in 2017 & 2019. Jeremy Corbyn who kept his seat now as an independent won by a real landslide margin in his constituency greater in popularity than 5 of the new Labour front Bench in theres and Sunak in his, the former Conservative PM. For the large majority of original Left wing Labour voters this has been no victory. They feel the party has been highjacked by a corporate sellout. Labour's Wes Streeting has made mention of extending private health care contracts in the NHS. He only kept his seat by a tiny margin this time. Most had hoped Andrew Feinstein would beat Starmer in his constituency of Holborn & St Pancras so that Starmer couldn't lead the party as PM. Feinstein came a close second. That is substantial considering Feinstein only announced running several months back and is not a former British MP. Many of the Constituencies Labour won will be lost again during the next by-elections. Maintaining that majority will be almost impossible now that Farage has made it into Parliament and is looking to remove our outdated first past the post system. His party won more voters than the Lib dem party yet have only 5 seats compared to 71 LD seats. Proportional voting would be wider accepted in the UK by voters according to opinion polls.
@Ibo-pm8yy
@Ibo-pm8yy 4 күн бұрын
UK is not left..it’s just that a huge bulk of the voters just didn’t turn up. Everyone I know didn’t vote and instead everyone was watching EURO’2024..that’s how popular both the conservatives and labour are over here..
@dianeshelton9592
@dianeshelton9592 4 күн бұрын
Conversely everyone I know voted Labour with glee
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 4 күн бұрын
UK is left if you compare it to USA.
@robthemodYT
@robthemodYT 3 күн бұрын
There were no matches on voting day (Thursday) - Sunak deliberately scheduled the election to avoid that.
@byoung8529
@byoung8529 5 күн бұрын
No more tories left in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 it's the UK, not England x
@suedavis3525
@suedavis3525 5 күн бұрын
Please note, it isn't England, it is the United Kingdom, which also includes Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Duh!
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 5 күн бұрын
That pisses me off as well!
@gameofender4463
@gameofender4463 5 күн бұрын
@@justonecornetto80Imagine their reaction if everyone just started calling America, California. And Biden the President of California.
@blakekaveny
@blakekaveny 4 күн бұрын
Labour didn’t win the election the conservatives lost it. Labor only got 33% of the vote share. Reform which got 5 seats got 14% of the vote share. Their was many seats in which the reform candidate got second or third and took votes away from the conservative candidate which lead to the labor candidate winning.
@louchemobile
@louchemobile 5 күн бұрын
It's not "England", it's the whole UK. Think of the UK as having four states: England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
nah, its England, and 3 territories England illegally occupies. So.....england
@user-sw2eg9lg2t
@user-sw2eg9lg2t 4 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor Regardless of your opinion on the union, it is accurate to refer to the UK elections and not the English elections. Telling other people to say that diminishes awareness of the existence of the union, it doesn't further your desire to break it up
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
​@@user-sw2eg9lg2t meh, I dont care about you breaking up. All of Uk is smaller than most US states so why would we even care. Its just England is easy to say and understand and also FREEEDOOMMMM!
@louchemobile
@louchemobile 4 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor BS.
@user-sw2eg9lg2t
@user-sw2eg9lg2t 4 күн бұрын
@@wrongturnVfor That's fine because I don't care about your care for this issue, I wasn't talking to you. I also don't care what you call this country.. we are talking about news reporters and what they call it.. that matters, what you call it does not.
@benfranklin1770
@benfranklin1770 5 күн бұрын
The UK labor party is centrist. There name is misleading and needs to be changed..
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
No it doesn't. The Labour Party has always had two wings. The pragmatic social democrats and the further left socialists
@nedthumberland
@nedthumberland 5 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, the UK's policies on G@za will NOT change.
@chriscolyer2579
@chriscolyer2579 5 күн бұрын
Other key thing to remember is that even some of the conservatives in Britain are to the left of the democrats in the states. Some of Labour’s ‘moderate’ ideas like a nationalised energy company would be considered communist in the states. The conservatives support Nationalised Health for example, which most democrats don’t.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 4 күн бұрын
Yes, you have a choice in your country of a conservative party and a very conservative party
@melanieevans5597
@melanieevans5597 4 күн бұрын
The heading is deceiving Starmer is not a leftist lunatic the man is a great leader with conservative principles.
@kathleenerskine1631
@kathleenerskine1631 5 күн бұрын
In England? Time reporters got their geographic terminology correct. And Starmer is most definitely not “left”. He’s the most right wing Labour leader ever.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 5 күн бұрын
Blair is more right wing. In case you haven't noticed, it's the centre ground where UK elections are won.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
Exactly, ​ The votes Tories lost didn't go to labor who won exactly the same amount of votes as 2019. They all went to Reform Party which is quite Trumpian. Repform cut the votes from Tories pushing Labor over the line in First Past the Post system. Plus Labor has to move massively to the right to gain the votes. The only real difference I could find between Tories and Labor was that labor was against the Rwanda program and wanted to strengthen the border instead. The reason for Tories losing wasn't that they were right wing. The reason was the idiotic division they faced after ousting Johnson and installing Truss and then Sunak - neither of whom had a public mandate to be the PM. UK seems to be on a rightward tilt when you look at the actual picture instead of just the labels. But don't expect TYT to understand any of that. They have a half dimensional view of politics
@Twiggys145
@Twiggys145 5 күн бұрын
00:45 England and the UK aren’t interchange terms. He is the prime minister of the UK not England. This is pretty basic stuff honestly
@paulstewart6293
@paulstewart6293 5 күн бұрын
Most English think that Britain is England. I'm Scottish, British too but no longer européen Unfortunately ! Thanks farage and boris.
@Twiggys145
@Twiggys145 5 күн бұрын
@@paulstewart6293 Not in my experience. I’m from NE England and everyone is aware of the distinction
@paulstewart6293
@paulstewart6293 5 күн бұрын
@@Twiggys145 Down south they do. At English football games they fly the union jack.
@michaell8722
@michaell8722 5 күн бұрын
Excuse the ignorance that is the US. Most Americans cannot locate the UK on a global map.
@paulstewart6293
@paulstewart6293 5 күн бұрын
@@michaell8722 That's OK. A lot of English think that Britain is England and the rest of the world should still be England. Americans are amateurs!
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 3 күн бұрын
The UK isn't England.
@stonzy87
@stonzy87 2 күн бұрын
To Americans it is lol
@DogmenHardcastle
@DogmenHardcastle 5 күн бұрын
They replaced a brown establishment robot with a beige establishment robot... Hooray, thank god the elite aristocrats who actually are better and well educated and noble with chivalrous gentlemanly morals aren't in power...
@stumcphillips3568
@stumcphillips3568 5 күн бұрын
The result in the UK is quite easy to explain. There are several things that happened. Firstly, Labor did pick up a couple of percent overall, but not a vast amount, and in itself would probably not been enough to change Government. The big change was the introduction of the Reform Party - a Right Wing, Anti Immigration Party led by Nigel Farage. They split the Conservative/Right vote and since the UK elections are held as "First Past the Post", the bleeding of Conservative (the Tories) support to the Reform Party pushed many Labor candidates and quite a few Liberal Democrat candidates from a solid second in previous elections to first place with high 30% voter counts. This happens because there is a true electoral system and not just 2 parties of consequence. Another thing that happened in Scotland was Labor, who had been about equal Second/Third shared with the Tories, grabbed power from the Scottish National Party. The SNP lost 39 of their 48 seats to Labor in a protest against scandals and leadership change from Nicola Sturgeon to their new leader. Labor now has a massive majority and 5 years to govern the UK (no elections in that period unless they feel the need to call one) - their challenge will be to reinvigorate services that have been gutted by Austerity measures by the Conservative party over the last decade ... and do this without raising taxes - an election promise of Labor. Sir Keir Starmer certainly has a challenge ahead of him, but if successful, it could be quite some time before the Tories get back to power.
@aclark903
@aclark903 5 күн бұрын
A good summary, but a couple of things: #Labour is spelt the British way in the UK. Secondly, there almost certainly will be by-elections (when someone dies or retires) & local elections during the next 5 years. Kier won’t worry about losing a seat with such a massive majority but it will be an embarrassment.
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 4 күн бұрын
You're defending the idiocy of first past the post???
@holdtightadele8017
@holdtightadele8017 4 күн бұрын
Starmer’s Labour is not “left wing” It’s very slightly left of centre.
@ahmadyusof2480
@ahmadyusof2480 4 күн бұрын
Its actually equally right to the other party. Two cheeks from the same butt.
@dty1207
@dty1207 4 күн бұрын
How would you describe LibDem then?
@TheOnlyAardvark
@TheOnlyAardvark 4 күн бұрын
Kier Starmer. As Jonathan Pie, the hilarious mock reporter called him "50 shades of beige".
@matthewjohnston3195
@matthewjohnston3195 3 күн бұрын
I love Jonathan Pie
@Warbs1987
@Warbs1987 2 күн бұрын
Dear TYT (and to many Americans in general): please stop using UK, Britain & England interchangeably. They are not the same thing. I at least give you credit for not attempting yet another ‘hilarious’ accent.
@fiver4249
@fiver4249 5 күн бұрын
Love your work guys but the Labour party isn't left, not any more. The Labour party is the new Conservative party while the Conservative party is turning into something similar to your Republican party. Corporate rule continues.
@adampike3834
@adampike3834 5 күн бұрын
Investing in green energy, social housing, decentralising some power, creating nationalised energy, cracking down on tax loopholes, investing in public education and the NHS are all now Conservative policies folks. The online brain rot really has taken hold of progressives.
@theQuestion626
@theQuestion626 2 күн бұрын
I would like to remind everyone that Tony Blair was not anything resembling a leftist. He was Neoliberal. Neoliberals are not politically aligned to leftist politics. They are actively hostile to leftist politics. In fact historically speaking neoliberalism is one of the reasons why Great Britain as well as the United States is in economic stagnation and decline. So I fear this guy might just be another Tony Blair.
@Hannythevicar
@Hannythevicar 2 сағат бұрын
For god's sake America it's the UK, not little England! Please get the facts straight before you start discussing our politics
@andrewchristian9035
@andrewchristian9035 3 күн бұрын
Its not England. it's the United Kingdom. Its because people were sick of Boris's lies, and Truss's kamikaze budget. You also totally missed the reform party under Nigel Farage that took a lot of the right wing votes. Cenk's last point forgets thats the maximum amount of time Rishi could have delayed it was by about six months. Please if you are going to comment on UK politics get someone to comment who really knows something about it.
@BBart1954
@BBart1954 5 күн бұрын
Tax the rich, Brits!
@Chrisbit1
@Chrisbit1 5 күн бұрын
I disagree slightly with Cenk, in France it isn't about "change" it's fueled by racism and xenophobia
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 5 күн бұрын
Which is why Jordan Bardella, the son of Italian immigrants is set to become the next PM of the right wing party? Talk sense. Actually its about nationalism, people are sick of fuelling foreign wars with their money, sick of destabilising their economy from refugees generated from this war and paying taxes to send all the money abroad for wars no one wants to lose. The skyrocketing cost of energy, inflation nd recession from involvement in said wars isn't making this madness more popular. Not just France but all of Europe is sick of it. Back in 2019 polls showed 70-% people has Anti NATO and Anti EU sentiment. It has only risen since which we saw on full display in EU elections where Scholz nearly lost his government in Germany. Plus macron didn't help his case when he decided to do away with pensions and decided to be seen partying as people were burning down Paris. Stop insulting voters for left wing losses. This is WHY left wing loses to begin with
@wearebecomedeathstar2658
@wearebecomedeathstar2658 4 күн бұрын
​@@wrongturnVfor you've just described the change you want. Still an argument for change.
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 4 күн бұрын
​@@wearebecomedeathstar2658 Change is the dumbest thing. Every election is about change people want. It the stupidest laziest copout for not actually doing any analysis
@sparkmanuk
@sparkmanuk 4 күн бұрын
Last time they were in they we entered two wars with troops on the ground and university education was free in England until they ended it.
@jonwelsh4354
@jonwelsh4354 4 күн бұрын
We also had a record number of students attend university. Might as well mention the full picture
@sparkmanuk
@sparkmanuk 3 күн бұрын
@@jonwelsh4354 yea I was one of them what they didn’t tell you was that they made HND,s into foundation degrees and then to stall them all up as degrees.
@richardhaylock9641
@richardhaylock9641 3 күн бұрын
Regardless of Conservative or Labour they always send troops in to help out the USA. And they don't wait for two years to do it.
@andyblanzy2693
@andyblanzy2693 5 күн бұрын
UK is blaming the Conservatives for their immigration problem. Their inflation.
@romainsavioz5466
@romainsavioz5466 5 күн бұрын
Well obviously they were in power for 14 years
@JayzVeez
@JayzVeez 5 күн бұрын
Ah yes there's that famous right wing accountability you guys are so well known for. You could stab someone in the chest in a public place caught on camera and you'd still try to blame it on the Left. Being right wing really is a mental illness.
@kush_ste
@kush_ste 4 күн бұрын
You can sustain a negative because the UK Labour Party is no different to the Conservatives. Two sides of the same Israeli coin.
@richardhoffmann179
@richardhoffmann179 3 күн бұрын
Like hell it is
@McKamikazeHighlander
@McKamikazeHighlander 4 күн бұрын
I have many disagreements with Starmer, but he ran a smart campaign against a party that had been entrenched for 14 years and he was also running against a right-leaning British media that hated him for prosecuting many of them for the phone hacking scandal when he was a barrister. It remains to be seen if he now does what many socialists here in the UK fear - that he will just turn Labour into the new Tory party - or he was merely being cautious until he got into power. Time will only tell, but the one thing I know for certain is that EVERY time a Labouir government is elected, they do a far better job than the government before. Blair might have been guilty of war crimes but many of his policies - such as the national minimum wage - did this country good. I highly doubt Britain will become the utopia many pray for and I worry little will change over their Gaza policy but we've finally kicked out the far right and at least there is finally some hope. Compare that to the US, where Trump has just been given immunity for all official presidential acts and it looks highly likely to be re-elected. Right now, I'm glad to be this side of the pond
@mrkkopola
@mrkkopola 4 күн бұрын
We haven't kicked out the far right at all, Farage is in parliament for the first time in 8 attempts, and he's got 3 of his mates with him - there were many other seats where they came second. Don't delude yourself...
@haoguo2056
@haoguo2056 5 күн бұрын
If you look at the ballot numbers. It is very clear that the conservative votes got diluted between the reform party and the Conservative Party instead of a unifying front. The reactionary right reform party did not gain a lot of seats despite a substantial increase in the number of votes. The number of votes that is now the center-right Labour Party actually decreased from previous elections, even though they have gained a lot of seats.
@RonMcKenzie-bw7iq
@RonMcKenzie-bw7iq 4 күн бұрын
Sorry Cenk. Love your show and agree with the Biden thing he has to go. But I am from the UK and live in London. We have never been right wing. The Tory or Conservative Party are much more aligned to the right wing element WITHIN the party. Agreed but not as simple as that. People like Boris Johnston and many of his right wingers who are racists have gone long time. Sunak was a rich privileged boy and could never undestand the working class of the UK. We are working class and not even left wing. Middle of the road. The danger the UK faces is the reemergence of Nigel Farage who is the guy who destroyed the UK with Brexit with the help of Boris. Farage is a one hit wonder and has no interest in the UK. He is English and the Reform Party evolved from the English National Party, the British National Party, and UKIP Brexit party. He is the RIGHT WINGER and has ambitions to be leader of the Tory Party and the Reform party - which won 5 seats out of 635 - is simply a vehicle for his ambitions to become a Presidential like figure in the mold of his idol Donald Trump. I have found the BBC can't report on USA politics with real understanding and the same goes for the USA media sources get it mixed up when reporting on British politics. But it is far too simplistice to say that Britain have turned left. But I have commented on supporting your argument to replace Biden. For the sake of democracy and world peace we can't have Trump in the WH and Farage in Downing Street at the same time. That is the plan and dream of Farage in the UK.
@blakekaveny
@blakekaveny 4 күн бұрын
@@supersabrejetPlease tell me how exactly gas and grocery prices will be lower if Trump is reelected
@VaucluseVanguard
@VaucluseVanguard Күн бұрын
Labour I’m afraid did not “win”. The Conservatives lost. The right in the UK is hopelessly split and the Conservatives were very poor in government; they delivered nothing of any consequence in 14 years except Brexit, which itself split the country in itself.
@TalosArc-ld8of
@TalosArc-ld8of 21 сағат бұрын
Legalized gay marriage.
@dsjoakim35
@dsjoakim35 5 күн бұрын
The biggest reason for Labours victory was the chaos and clownshow the Tories treated Britain to in the last decade plus. It actually had little to with politics and policies. The people just want some stability.
@matthewbaynham6286
@matthewbaynham6286 5 күн бұрын
Starmer has always complained that the 2019 election was the worse Labour result, (Starmer and friends were stabbing the Labour leader in the back in the run up to the 2019 election). Labour got half a million less votes in 2024 under Starmer compared to 2019 under Corbyn, and 2 million less than 2017 under Corbyn. The reason why starmer won with hakf a million fewer votes is the Tory's lost 6.1 million votes. That's right Richi Sunak was so hated that 6.1 million less voters voted for his government. I voted for the Green Party which got a total of 1.9 million votes and won 4 seats coming second in over 40 seats. So the Greens are well positioned for the next election, but that increase in Green vote backs up what was said in the video. The problem for Labour is when the Tory's get rid of Richi Sunak and fix their public image they will get most of those 6.1 million votes back who abandened them. If the Tory's can do that Labour don't stand a chance in the next election. The Reform Party was a major problem for the Tory's this time they got 4 million votes. The Tory's will probably do a deal with Reform before the next election, which will be a major problem for Labour. I wish the Greens good luck.
@FreakishlyTrue
@FreakishlyTrue 5 күн бұрын
Very good analysis!
@faarsight
@faarsight 4 күн бұрын
Not a single Conservative MP in Wales or Cornwall.
@gee_emm
@gee_emm 5 күн бұрын
0:14 There is nothing progressive about Starmer's Labour party. It barely even is a Labour party any more. Sorry if I'm not thrilled to have a slightly less awful PM.
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 4 күн бұрын
So how did left y Corbyn do in government to get all these amazing progressive policies in action?
@gee_emm
@gee_emm 4 күн бұрын
@@MIEJ4 Leave JC out of this. Focus.
@user-pf6ve1jx6p
@user-pf6ve1jx6p 2 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t call it left …they are right with a different colour.
@ExpendableRedshirt
@ExpendableRedshirt 5 күн бұрын
This is not about any kind of enthusiasm for Labour, they didn't "Win" this election, the Tories were so bad that they made themselves unelectable. Starmer got fewer votes than Jeremy Corbyn who, simply for being left-wing, was opposed by the entire establishment and was massively targeted by the Israeli lobby for speaking up about Palestine. No one expects Labour to do much more than tinker around the edges of Tory policies and Labour worked hard to lower expectations.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 5 күн бұрын
*CHANGE* was literally the Labour Parties slogan
@alexv123ify
@alexv123ify 4 күн бұрын
Cenk, I like your takes on American politics, since this is clearly where your expertise lies. But when you are talking about other countries you are often seeing things through the lens of American politics and don't really take into account the important specificities of politics in the countries you are talking about. The UK did not see a major ideological swing, the result was mostly a factor of two things: (1) the right-wing vote (which was still about as big as that received by Labour+Green) spliting between the Conservative Party and Reform and (2) the right-wing vote being severely depressed not so much about policy but rather about personal perceptions regarding the incompetence of Conservative leadership (look at the polls, the two major drops in support for Conservatives coincides with the B. Johnson and, subsequently, L. Truss shenanigans).
@alexv123ify
@alexv123ify 4 күн бұрын
I think it's important to cover these topics regarding non-US politics, but your audience would be served better if you would invite - for these segments - people from (or at least who have some expertise) the respective countries.
@alexv123ify
@alexv123ify 4 күн бұрын
And I'm saying this as a progressive and European social-democrat, so I'm quite happy with the Labour win. It's just important to get the causal mechanisms right.
@psiphon2808
@psiphon2808 4 күн бұрын
⁠@@alexv123ifyWhat you’ve said is true but fails to point out that the UK is a a centrist left country. The Tories have always gotten in because of the split in the left in a first past the post system. Also the right wing media gives out misinformation to assist them.
@terryfied
@terryfied 5 күн бұрын
Starmer isn't a left-winger, nor is this present Labour party. They're more right of centre, they're also big supporters of Israel.
@nathanclaytonvarietyasmr8224
@nathanclaytonvarietyasmr8224 4 күн бұрын
Labour party only won bc the Tories split exploded. Kier starmer is a Republican basically
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