Ukraine’s Armed Forces Five Years into Conflict with Russia

[@janbudaj2173]

This is I would say more interesting now then it was when presented

[@janezjonsa3165]

I'm here only to hear M. Kofmann speaking.

[@joseortiz7855]

Excellent Update Report

[@Dadecorban]

Seems to me that the data being compared between 2014 and 2018 by the visiting Ukrainian is apples and oranges. It's difficult to judge how much actual readiness has increased in those 4 years since the 2014 figure regards how many planes were ready out of 48 and in 2018 the figures were related to how many aircraft were upgraded or underwent major repairs. (for example) Maybe its a paucity of data?

[@Dadecorban]

Is Knife ERA designed and built by Ukraine equivalent/superior to Kontact-5? How much experience does Ukraine have designing and building ERA? Seems to be a huge issue if you want to say that the Ukrainian T-64 upgrades are equivalent or superior to the T-72B3

[@ukrainainhitman]

It is reputably on the level of Kotact 5. I don't particularly see a reason to doubt it. Kontact 5 isn't new and Ukraine does posses it in its inventory. What's more the issue is the ammunition used. Ukrainians are still using older Soviet rounds which can't penetrate the frontal armour of T-72b3. Ukraine was designing newer ones but unfortunately, it seems to have lost steam

[@Dadecorban]

@@ukrainainhitman I see those two issues related. In my mind tank ammunition is a technological/industrial challenge similar to ERA. Obviously there are other problems that can kill or slow down projects. Thanks for your response.

[@WorshipinIdols]

Titus Veridius oh yes. The Kontact-5 is not modern even for the Russians themselves. It’s 2 gen. They went to the Relikt after that and have a new one again, so basically I am guessing it’s not working to well. The NOZH and the Douplet (a modified and improved NOZH) Is the only one that I see that performs as advertised as far as I can see.

[@WorshipinIdols]

How about... #1). Total lack of net-centric warfare. (He almost touched on it but then backed off) #2) no NCO corps. (Just officers giving orders to private’s with 1 year conscript obligations). #3) lack of modern real-time tactical/operational intelligence (ISTAR).

[@eugenlitwin5887]

this is final moment of juchi empire , Muscovites lost this war in Ukraine

[@NathansHVAC]

Best country in history. Smartest president. Brightest future. Model proxxxy waaar for all future generations.

[@mmazourov]

Didn’t they say that Buk systems were only in use by the Russian military and therefore the Malaysia flight HAD to have been downed by the separatists supported directly by the Russians? This dude is saying Ukraine has 10 divisions of them..?

[@ВячеславСкопюк]

>Didn’t they say that Buk systems were only in use by the Russian military nope, they never said that

[@mmazourov]

@@ВячеславСкопюк in which case why would it be a Russian military's launcher/missile (fired by the separatists) that downed the jet and not the Unkrainian army's?

[@ВячеславСкопюк]

@@mmazourov it was about type of the missile. Ukraine has no access to modern missiles, like 9М317, for example

[@andrerothweiler9191]

To learn such advanced technology you need months, you cannot learn it in a few days

[@Dadecorban]

When trained composite battalions get disbanded and personnel transferred back to their original units....there are policies that can enable, encourage, and cause these soldiers and units to thrive as they train their comrades and there are policies that can make this fail. Soviet style top down leadership tends to not emphasize the empowerment of enlisted and junior officers to conduct this sort of training; expertise is hoarded by officers for job security, and NCOs are not trusted, nor do they fight for the trust or take the initiative to conduct unit training. We have seen this traditionally in the Egyptian Army for instance. I'm curious whether the Ukrainian army has transformed enough at the company, battalion, and brigade level where this sort of seed training can flourish rather than die.

[@gerardsmadja1323]

I fail to understand what the actual goal of the ukrainian army is. If it is to take control of the Donetsk Lugansk area (against the wish of the population) I doubt it will ever achieve it as long as Russia supports the eastern Ukrainian. If it is to destroy the local economy to chase away the inhabitants and empty the land, glory to this army.

[@andrerothweiler9191]

There was no real opposition, in 2004 there was first maidan revolution and no real upraising but now yes? Dude weak up

[@gerardsmadja1323]

Ask the inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine what they want, and whom they support.

[@jackspecht3418]

The entire talk is moot. If Russia chose to invade the Russian flag would be hanging in Kieve within 4 days.

[@quecuentas3]

XD

[@mmazourov]

Less

[@lv3184]

Jack Specht Yeah, but how many of their sons would Russian mothers be willing to bury for that?

[@jackspecht3418]

@@lv3184 Depends on how many ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine are killed by Ukrainian military. If Ukraine continues attempting its ethnic cleansing the Russian people will demand action and will be more than willing to make the necessary sacrifices. But with the highly advanced state of the Russian military compared to the dilapidated third world military of Ukraine there would be very few Russian military casualties.

[@lv3184]

Jack Specht First of all, there is no ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine. Over half of all the Ukrainian soldiers who have died in battle since 2014 were themselves Russian speakers. And second, being a Russian speaker does not necessarily correlate with identifying as Russian. A clear majority of Russian speakers in Ukraine do not see themselves as Russians, which is why what happened in the Donbass never happened in the other russophone areas of Ukraine.

[@N3ur0m4nc3r]

First! 😅