Ukraine's First War against Russia | Cossacks, Khmelnytsky Uprising, Zaporozhia

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Russian Invasion, Khmelnytsky Uprising, Cossacks, Zaporozhian Host, Ukrainian History, Ukrainian Cossacks, Russian Empire, Russia Ukraine War, Russian Ukrainian War
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
01:15 - Khmelnytsky Uprising

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@alehaim
@alehaim 2 жыл бұрын
The borders of Russia following the partition of Poland is a little incorrect as the Congress Poland territory jutting out from the Russian borders didn't come to existence until after the defeat of Napoleon. Before this the Congress Poland territory of Russia was controlled mostly by Prussia and partially by Austria
@hatinmyselfiscool2879
@hatinmyselfiscool2879 2 жыл бұрын
someone watched historia civilis
@alehaim
@alehaim 2 жыл бұрын
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 i actually haven't watched em too much. I just know from my Fascination with the idea of what if Prussia remained as thick as it was
@gunarsmiezis9321
@gunarsmiezis9321 Жыл бұрын
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 No idea who is but I do know history.
@clouds-rb9xt
@clouds-rb9xt Жыл бұрын
@@DeadGuye1995 LARP. The Poles are free from German oppression
@user-cd7ib8ty3p
@user-cd7ib8ty3p Жыл бұрын
@@clouds-rb9xt no 😂
@HikmaHistory
@HikmaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you went into more detail about Khmelnytsky and the Hetmanate than I could've in my video, great job!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!... Slava Hmielnitsky! !... Love from Romania! !!!
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 жыл бұрын
Great animation top notch stuff man so glad to be working with you
@Anton_Danylchenko
@Anton_Danylchenko 2 жыл бұрын
Kuban Cossacks were the direct descendants of Zaporozhian Cossacks. They were Ukrainians as well. Don Cossacks were close to Russians but still despised Muscowites and did not want them to settle on their territory. Some descendants of Don Cossacks became the infamous Russian Cossacks who captured Siberia and took part in Russian military expeditions to Europe (e.g. in Paris).
@chadgaston8615
@chadgaston8615 2 жыл бұрын
Despised? They literally handed over Pugachev to be killed. Did you ever wonder why there are so few statues of the man in Donetsk Oblast even if Pushkin himself wrote about that cossack. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think there are any statues of the guy in areas controlled by Russian Federation.
@JohnSmith-xl3ju
@JohnSmith-xl3ju Жыл бұрын
Kuban cossacks we're literally the children of the Zaporhizian cossacks that settled there and spoke Ukrainian. the Don cossacks consisted of cossacks that were from Slobozhanshina which was to a large part Ukrainian.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 Жыл бұрын
The Kuban should be ceded to Ukraine as punishment
@user-pk1wn8ol1r
@user-pk1wn8ol1r Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwilliams1065 first Ukraine must be given to Russia
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 11 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanwilliams1065 Clearly, you have never been anywhere near the Caucasus if you actually think that this could work out lol
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 2 жыл бұрын
Most informative, thank you!
@sdhflkjshdfskdhfskljdhf582
@sdhflkjshdfskdhfskljdhf582 2 жыл бұрын
That was a lovely rendition of the Cossacks' Reply in your minimalist mspaint-y style :)
@gamerteeb794
@gamerteeb794 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely my absolute favorite thing about history channels on KZbin, they started doing these huge collabs and suddenly, like my own little Christmas every once in a while, my subscriptions are filled with fresh content that'll take me days to get through. Keep up the good work guys, history is my greatest passion and I adore the channels across this site putting out solid history content. And to end on a more topical note, Slava Ukraini!
@gremlin7665
@gremlin7665 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@gamerteeb794
@gamerteeb794 2 жыл бұрын
@@gremlin7665 ligma
@gremlin7665
@gremlin7665 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerteeb794 stooopid
@gamerteeb794
@gamerteeb794 2 жыл бұрын
@@gremlin7665 ligma balls
@captainfreedom3649
@captainfreedom3649 2 жыл бұрын
yeah slava bandera slava genocide
@gijbfhjm
@gijbfhjm 5 ай бұрын
thank you for supporting Ukraine from the bottom of heart ♥
@sergii2945
@sergii2945 Жыл бұрын
Kuban Cossacks are also of Ukrainian origin. Don Cossacks are mixed Ukrainian and Russian.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 ай бұрын
No, they are Iranians, Turks, Mongols, and Cumans
@user-vf6xn9jm6w
@user-vf6xn9jm6w 2 жыл бұрын
Finally there's a video which shows that after Khmelnytsky's agreement with Muscovy things were not done and there was half of century of turbulence
@user-pk1wn8ol1r
@user-pk1wn8ol1r Жыл бұрын
Не с московией а с Россией* слово "Россия" для обозначения русского государства появилось ещё в первой половине 10 века
@user-dx4lj5bu7v
@user-dx4lj5bu7v Жыл бұрын
@@user-pk1wn8ol1r московит, спок
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Жыл бұрын
@@user-pk1wn8ol1r Ето слово ви себе сами накрутили для легитимизации вашей импертт и ее атаки на земли Руси, тоисть Украини. Летописи почитай, там Русь обозначается только как Владимир-Суздаль итд. И Русю там била только территория Украини.
@Zapper-kq1zg
@Zapper-kq1zg Жыл бұрын
@@alekshukhevych2644хазаросвин не тебе нас учить, так что ротик прикрой
@georgiykhara6917
@georgiykhara6917 2 жыл бұрын
The best video is the best I’ve ever seen in English-speaking KZbin!!! Thank you so much!!!
@Primetiime32
@Primetiime32 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the upload
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really good to find out a bit more about who the cossacks were and their influence in the creation of a Ukrainian identity.
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 2 жыл бұрын
You've become such a Ukraine shill haha
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 2 жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati go back to your masters Muscovite.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 Жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati So he should disregard history and be a Putin shill instead?
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 Жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati Lol, Russian fanboy's just can't stop talking about glorious soviet union
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina!!!
@danieldmelniki8834
@danieldmelniki8834 Жыл бұрын
Grateful for this Playlist! @Kings and Generals & Company!!
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see the world taking interest in the history of this region of Europe and finally starting to understand it but sad that it took a bloody war to happen. This video is great introduction to the topic. There are some minor problems with it, like the pronunciation of _Sich_ (why the 'k' sound?) and some other words. I've never heard about Maksym Kryvonis being potentially of Scottish origin. That's a very interesting detail! And not so improbable, as you might think. There was Scottish immigration to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - an interesting topic, worthy of its own video.
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as an ancient history of Ukraine and to speak of one is appropriation of Russian history. It is like appropriating Native American history as the history of US or Aborigine history as the history of the Australian state or the history of Hindus of India as the history of the Pakistani state and so on. Countries like Ukraine, US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand are artificial states not the fruit of a civilisation.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@@stormshadow5283 That's like saying "There's no ancient history of Italy and to speak of one is appropriation of Spanish history." Russia and Ukraine have a common origin in the Kyivan Rus', a state which included parts of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, but had its capital in Ukraine. After the fall of the Kyivan Rus' in the mid-13th century, Ukraine (Ruthenia) and Russia (Muscovy) were vassal states under the Mongol Golden Horde for decades, until Ukraine (Ruthenia) was conquered by Poland and Lithuania in the 14th century, while Muscovy remained under the Mongols until the late-15th. Russia only expanded partial control over Ukraine in the mid-late 17th century, and didn't fully incorporate it as a province of the Russian empire until the late-18th century. By that time, the Ukrainians had their own language, their own customs, and their own identity, and Russia had to actively suppress Ukrainian identity and send in Russian settlers in an effort to assimilate Ukraine into Russia. How ironic is it that you would compare speaking of Ukrainian history to claiming Native American or Australian history for settlers, when you are literally claiming that the history of Ukraine belongs to those who conquered them, suppressed their culture, and even sent settlers in an attempt to overwhelm their local identity? Who called parts of Ukraine "New Russia" just as the Spanish and English Empires called their American territories "New Spain" and 'New England"? Are you genuinely so stupid that you thought you were making a reasonable analogy, or did you know you were being a dishonest hack, and deliberately make the nonsense analogy in the hopes of confusing onlookers?
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy Exactly! Frankly, I've lost all patience to argue against opinions like the one above and you said it all better than I could.
@somedesertdude1308
@somedesertdude1308 Жыл бұрын
ur polish...
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 Жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy Your history of Ukraine is far from exact cause that's Russia who conquered acual east/south Ukraine/Crimea on tatars and on Crimean Khanate and founded all those town like Marioupol, Odessa, Sebastopol, conquered bessarabaia also: that's not Ukraine. And before tatars and turks it was not Ukrainian also and never been. The Ukraine you speaking is western Ukraine and Ukraine of zaparoge cossacks (who were at a moment allies of Russia). That's Russia who bring here Ukrainians (ruthens) settlers or even germans. You rewrite history like Russia always been an invader and a settler in "Ukraine" but it's totally wrong at least for the eastern and south part. You're speaking like the borders never changed thorugh centuries and actual borders always been the same but it's wrong; there's many part of actual Ukraine that never really been Ukrainian. You also not speak about the Ukrainization policy of USSR in years 20's to 30's. There are always been Russians in many of some parts of actual Ukraine ineast and south, and in many of those regions Ukrainian was just the languages of poor settlers farmers bring there by Russia, in towns founded by Russia everybody speak Russian. About the Donbass more than half of actual Donbass (up to the meotide river) was part of the Cossack don army oblast: Russian coassacks.
@WhiskeyTango84
@WhiskeyTango84 2 жыл бұрын
im glAD to see your channel has grown and become part of this effort to help Ukrainians and also for teaching others understand the rich, and complicated history of such great nation and its people.
@BellicoseNation
@BellicoseNation Жыл бұрын
Actually, NATION and a PEOPLE are the same thing.
@fulippuannaghiti1965
@fulippuannaghiti1965 Жыл бұрын
Lol Ukraine didn't exist until Soviet Union stop making up fairy tales about history.
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina!!!... Slava Hmielnitsky!!!... Greetings from Romania!!!
@basedkaiser5352
@basedkaiser5352 7 ай бұрын
Khmelnietsky, Russian patriot.
@jesenjin8467
@jesenjin8467 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy to come here from King and Generals and Cold War channel to watch as many of these as possible.
@magimon91834
@magimon91834 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of the project ukraine videos but this is certainly one of the best of them
@sebastianseb4392
@sebastianseb4392 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, one of the worst. Wrong maps (the whole map is a caricature), a lot of simplifications and omitting important facts. It is a pity that someone else did not take up this topic.
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
"The attitude of the West and of Russia towards a crisis like Ukraine is diametrically different. The West is trying to establish the legality of any established border. For Russia, Ukraine is part of the Russian patrimony" --Henry Kissinger
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 жыл бұрын
We meet again don't we
@ontheline3077
@ontheline3077 2 жыл бұрын
West is waging a proxy war by fueling UA with weapons and money. They are ready to fight to the last Ukrainian
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
@@CivilWarWeekByWeek yeah hi
@konplayz
@konplayz 2 жыл бұрын
quote by the guy that carpet bombed all of indochina and somehow won a nobel peace prize for it
@ontheline3077
@ontheline3077 2 жыл бұрын
@@konplayz bc he was American politician. Take Obama for example, right after receiving Nobel prize he droned Syrians and Livia
@Ruessavel
@Ruessavel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@emkalina
@emkalina Жыл бұрын
that's a surprisingly accurate video for a Westerner* it would also be worth mentioning that Russian Kuban Cossacks were descendants of Ukrainian settlers *you got the partition map wrong. Russian part was initially much smaller, it got bigger (what you show) after the Napoleon wars and pronunciation :)
@ThePacificWarChannel
@ThePacificWarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So proud to be part of #ProjectUkraine =) amazing videos by all the great content creators! 🇺🇦
@gimbatul9761
@gimbatul9761 2 жыл бұрын
Subbed. Always glad to find a new history YT channel.
@captainfreedom3649
@captainfreedom3649 2 жыл бұрын
#SupportTheCurrentThing
@gremlin7665
@gremlin7665 2 жыл бұрын
@MCAssassinis is he wrong
@gremlin7665
@gremlin7665 2 жыл бұрын
What does the Pacific theatre have to do with Ukraine. How about you do a video on the Palestine conflict and connect it to whatever you focus on
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!!.... Love from Romania! !!!
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
@@claudianisipasu4014 Slava Ukraina! Love from the UK! 🇬🇧
@oblakevychd
@oblakevychd 2 жыл бұрын
Khmelnytsky's uprising took place at the same time as the English Revolution. In some ways, these events are similar in the uprising of the new aristocracy, supported by burghers, against the existing state. Plus the religious factor: in England they are Catholics against Protestants, and in Ukraine - Catholics against Orthodox. But in Ukraine/Ruthenia/Cossack state, Muscovy intervened in this conflict, and after several decades of byzantine policy, was able to conquer Ukraine and later destroy the Commonwealth.
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!!!... Slava Hmielnitsky! !!!... Love from Romania! !!!!
@egertroos1691
@egertroos1691 Жыл бұрын
@@claudianisipasu4014 Greetings from Estonia
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate Your clarification.... Hmielnitsky wanted to be Equal to Jeremy Wisniowiecki, in my humble opinion.... Slava Ukraine! !!!!
@egertroos1691
@egertroos1691 Жыл бұрын
@@claudianisipasu4014 Moldova can soon join Romania
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
@@egertroos1691 Love & respect to Estonia from Romania & Republic of Moldova!!!! Slava Ukraine. ... Slava Poland & the 3 baltic countries.... Tibor, Romania, Craiova!!!!
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
Who else has been enjoying going through the playlist today?
@saveggg7141
@saveggg7141 Жыл бұрын
Great video, as a ukrainian living in Canada it's a great refreshment of my historical heritage
@Paul_Shtelmakh
@Paul_Shtelmakh 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually no original paper on the traty of Pereyaslav. So it may be just a political manipulation from the russia to justify the occupation of Ukraine. The last hetman of Ukraine Kyrylo Rozumovsky investigated that matter in the late XVIII century but as soon as he wanted to make a claim of Independent Ukraine once again - he was arrested. In his official documents the Ukrainain nation was literarly mentioned as the title people of Ukraine.
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
Eastern Ukraine voted with guns and sabers to stay with Russia. I doubt they didn't know what they fought for.
@user-pk1wn8ol1r
@user-pk1wn8ol1r Жыл бұрын
@@pavelstaravoitau7106 there are no men on the streets of Donetsk, they all went to war with Ukraine. at this time, the Ukrainians shelled Donetsk with artillery, killing those who remained in the city. a few days ago, a 155mm Ukrainian shell killed 12 people in Donetsk, this shell gave the Ukrainians NATO .....
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
@@user-pk1wn8ol1r I meant the Pereyaslav Rada and the treaty with Russia in 1654 and later.
@jyothireddy4246
@jyothireddy4246 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, Bro do you think you can make content related to more Napoléonic era, thank you ^_^
@LymonAdd
@LymonAdd 2 жыл бұрын
great video! note: “ch” in “Sich” is pronounced as in “chicken”
@oleksandrkovalchuk3823
@oleksandrkovalchuk3823 2 жыл бұрын
and "kobzar", not "koz bar" :))
@HistoryfortheAges
@HistoryfortheAges 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some larger channels all teaching about this. I made a short about Ukraine a couple months ago on my channel, but it is new so not many folks saw it.
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina!!!!!
@Arturino_Burachelini
@Arturino_Burachelini 2 жыл бұрын
"as he [Khmelnytskyi] has a city named after him" Yeah, I live in it. It was renamed from Proskuriv on the third centenary of that Pereyaslav treaty by moscow I'm sorry to inform you, you butchered much of Ukrainian names. If interested, I can instruct on anglicized pronounciation
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
If you're interested, I also covered the Khmelnytsky uprising in my contribution to this collab, and consulted with a Ukrainian to try and get my pronunciations as close as I could.
@rahjah6958
@rahjah6958 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on kings and generals link up
@Myjacob99
@Myjacob99 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Ukrainians responded to the ottomans by roasting them is hilarious to me
@chadgaston8615
@chadgaston8615 2 жыл бұрын
And many cossacks eventually ended up beging protection from Muslim Turks. Today Erdogan and Zelensky has restored relationship broken during Bohun and Khmelnytsky.
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 2 жыл бұрын
They weren't Ukrainians.
@KaiserFranzJosefI
@KaiserFranzJosefI Жыл бұрын
There's no evidence that that response ever existed and the Ottomans later conquered Ukraine
@twoneedy
@twoneedy Жыл бұрын
@@KaiserFranzJosefI The Ukraine*
@StayFreshMyFriends
@StayFreshMyFriends Жыл бұрын
@@twoneedy no
@theowlx7_alex245
@theowlx7_alex245 Жыл бұрын
I as a Ukrainian feel this video even a bit too inaccurate as Poles were the same occupants on our land as russians did during Ruin. Even more, Poles were destroying our traditional cossack government while russians took the way of slow integration of our land in their country. Cossackhood was demolished in Poland in the 17th century, while in russia as far as one hundred years after Poles did. So, for better understanding, no one spoke russian in Ukraine during the Ruin YET. But Eastern Bank of the Dnipro Cossacks had economical relationships with russia, while Western Bank were relatively ready to give up in independence to have the ability to trade with Poles. That was the problem and no poles were 'hope' or 'help' or 'democracy' of some sort. Until modern days Poles were occupants even with russians in their hate on us. It's important to consider
@2Notts
@2Notts Жыл бұрын
Oh my, Poles were not the occupants of Ukraine as Ukraine never really existed as a fully functioning state up until post soviet era. A brief blip in history of Kiyv Rus that in fact was invaded by Great Dutchy of Lithuania and then found itself within Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is all that you're pending on. Ukrainians/Cossacs proved to be the biggest pain in the butthole for the Commonwealth and the piece and stability of the whole region. You can blame only yourselves for enabling Moscovia to grow to Great Russian Empire. This video greatly presents how unstable ukraininians have always been and why you brought current war upon yourself. Traitors who backed those who they benefited more from at a given time. If not for Poland, you would be spelling your surname in Russian by now.
@theowlx7_alex245
@theowlx7_alex245 Жыл бұрын
@@2Notts bro, don't be angry peasants simply wanted to own land without the lords. We are very thankful for your help, but we need to overthink our past a bit. Our nation always wanted liberal democracy of sorts, to privately own land, to freely speak our language and to freely attend our own, Ukrainian, churches. No empire, nor Polish, nor russian, were the ones ready to leave us such an autonomy, and as such we were rebelling. For example, many Ukrainians hate Belarusians and consider them weak because they didn't uprise, it is just our mentality. No one, except of the people of Ukraine, can own Ukraine. It is simple yet provoked a lot of conflict.
@Anton_Danylchenko
@Anton_Danylchenko 2 жыл бұрын
Not only Russia betrayed Cossacks. The western part of Hetmanate was just gifted by Russia to Poland despite Russia de facto had no rights on Hetmanate at all (it was just a protectorate and military alliance). But for Russian tsars it was like "we captured new land and this is Russia now". Moreover Ruthenia is much bigger land than just Hetmanate. Western Ruthenia still was under control of Poland and many Ruthenians were angered by the commonwealth of three nations since their land was just gifted to Polish nation.
@chadgaston8615
@chadgaston8615 2 жыл бұрын
Don always served Russia accept few occasions betraying its brothers. Does the name Orlov-Denisov ring a bell. I am glad a lot of people are volunteers in Ukraine from the region that has a lot of scores to settle with pro-Moscow Don boys. I also would argue that almost 400 years ago Khmelnytsky and Bohun did not truly understand what post-mongol yoke Moscow was or what it would become. Serfdom was terrible everywhere. Russia however just played cossacks against one another. Russia and Poland eventually destroyed in 1768-1775 all cossack hosts outside Danube and Don. Nicholas I eventually forced all remaining cossacks to bow to the tsar. Polish Iron Felix took care of what was left of cossacks. Iron Felix of Polish nobility just did what his ancestors had always done.
@G0TIMAN
@G0TIMAN Жыл бұрын
But Ruthenia is not simply a Ukraine
@Anton_Danylchenko
@Anton_Danylchenko Жыл бұрын
@@G0TIMAN What was Ruthenia became Ukraine. Ruthenian nationalists just agreed to use the name "Ukraine" in ethnic sense (both names were already in use in XVII-XIX century, but "Ukrainian" meant "from Ukraine" while Ruthenian meant ethnicity) in order to be distinguishable from Muscovites who started to call themselves Russians and tries to assimilate Ruthenians. So Ruthenians is just the old name for Ukrainians the same way as Wallachians is the old name for Romanians. Ruthenian language of XVII century was de facto Old Ukrainian. There was also Old Belarusian - but those people took the "Litvins" identity by that time and were renamed into Belarusians only later.
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 Жыл бұрын
@@Anton_Danylchenko Yes indeed.
@mykhailo4472
@mykhailo4472 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of most detailed and correct video about history of Ukraine in english what i saw. 👍 Fun fact - before Khmelnytskyi there was Sahaidachnyi. In 1618 Hetman Sahaidachnyi raise a 20K army of Cossacks to help Polish-Lithuanian King win the war with Moscow. But for some reasons they decided to spare it. In one version, Sahaidachny heard church bells and suggest negotiating peace.... If only he knew
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina!!!!... Ukraina to be admitted asap in the NATO alliance...
@user-co3uc8vt7e
@user-co3uc8vt7e Жыл бұрын
And what if he knew? Moscow wouldn't be rebuilt? Don't embarrass yourself.
@mykhailo4472
@mykhailo4472 Жыл бұрын
@@user-co3uc8vt7e embarrass with what? historical fact? or what? * обиженка?*
@user-co3uc8vt7e
@user-co3uc8vt7e Жыл бұрын
@@mykhailo4472 Дурницями своїми, що якби Сагайдачний спалив Москву, то щось у подальшій історії Європи змінилося б.
@mykhailo4472
@mykhailo4472 Жыл бұрын
@@user-co3uc8vt7e ну по перше так , щось би змінилося, але хз що) а по друге ви чіпляється до what if ситуації - це вже в художню літературу альт історії вам..
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I covered the same topic in my contribution to #ProjectUkraine, but I focused on slightly different aspects and a narrower timeframe.
@chimchim2_
@chimchim2_ Жыл бұрын
Sub!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!!... Slava Hmielnitsky! !!... Love from Romania! !!!
@gimbatul9761
@gimbatul9761 2 жыл бұрын
Kings and generals, Al muqadimah, hikma history, knowledgia, from nothing, emperor tigerstar, Jabzy all released videos relating Ukraine at the same time.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they (and several more of us!) were all involved in a collab to cover Ukrainian history, i partnership with a charity helping war victims!
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
That was the goal : collaborative project.
@baird5682
@baird5682 Жыл бұрын
When you compare that with current events in Ukraine you can see that many players still stay the same. Russia, Poland, Turkey, Sweden. In later century French and British come by and in 20th century americans arrive.
@mktdul2095
@mktdul2095 3 ай бұрын
Mazepa switched sides on the eve of battle... to the losing side... New Russia was not founded on Kozak land, it was build on Tatar lands.
@palagius9149
@palagius9149 2 жыл бұрын
Apostolic Majesty's video "How the Ukraine became the Ukraine (1187-1992: A Brief History" is phenomenal and everyone should go give it a listen.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
Because no Ukrainian perspective is in it?
@palagius9149
@palagius9149 2 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero - There is no perspective it's an overview of historical events. If you don't like that then you just don't like unbiased history.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
@@palagius9149 That's not what I'm saying. An unbiaised history shows all the perspectives. This would be like talking about the Settlement of the West with only the point of view of european settlers and not the Indigenous people, you'd be left with only one half of the full story and that's a disgrace to encyclopedic history.
@palagius9149
@palagius9149 2 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero - Cool, that's not what I'm saying either. It's an overview of what happened in the Ukraine over the course of 800 years with no perspective from either side, there is no opinion, there is no bias, it's a fucking top-down overview for Christs sake. Also, I love how you're starting an argument with me, when literally all I've down is shout someone out.
@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Join us in helping those who are suffering the most - donation.babynyar.org/en/
@nathanmchiyengi7883
@nathanmchiyengi7883 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainian are russians who are polonized
@DevletGiray
@DevletGiray 2 жыл бұрын
Less severe mistake, but you pronounce Sich as "Sic", when it's actually "Sich".
@zacharyyan4898
@zacharyyan4898 2 жыл бұрын
15:30 didn't realize that was the etymology of "condominium".. I'm never going to see a normal old condo the same again.
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like cussing out invaders is a bit of a tradition there!
@user-wr9rv7ze8l
@user-wr9rv7ze8l 2 жыл бұрын
Not "Sick" but Sich (Sitch)
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I cried at the beginning.
@gremlin7665
@gremlin7665 2 жыл бұрын
Crybaby
@MrFostarm
@MrFostarm Жыл бұрын
As the first one at least could be mentioned when muscovite principal betreyed Rus' principals and helped mongolians to defeat them
@mktdul2095
@mktdul2095 Жыл бұрын
Authors admit that khmelnitskii accepted russian rule... isnt it over ar that point?
@chadgaston8615
@chadgaston8615 Жыл бұрын
Not when Russia collaborated with Kalmyks and Vatican against sons of Don and Uman. You also make naive assumption that a cossack somehow keeps its word. Did they keep their word to Poland when Tugay Bey literally bribed cossacks on Polish side to turn against Poland.
@dimadubnevych9164
@dimadubnevych9164 Жыл бұрын
Ivan Mazepa is a very interesting character. Very smart guy. He deserves separate video
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine: exists Russia: that unacceptable
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as an ancient history of Ukraine and to speak of one is appropriation of Russian history. It is like appropriating Native American history as the history of US or Aborigine history as the history of the Australian state or the history of Hindus of India as the history of the Pakistani state and so on. Countries like Ukraine, US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand are artificial states not the fruit of a civilisation.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
@@stormshadow5283 The Russian’s literally colonized all of Siberia with ,any through conquests against the wills of the original natives, and mind I remind you Russia also once controlled Alaska.
@Mypromiselive
@Mypromiselive 2 жыл бұрын
Pakistan=King
@alvarez985
@alvarez985 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Mypromiselive
@Mypromiselive 2 жыл бұрын
@@stormshadow5283 As a Native American, I ask that you don't use my people as a tool to make your stupid and nonsensical argument. Maybe you should read more books, would make you a smarter person.
@SolidTaylor
@SolidTaylor Жыл бұрын
Great video! As a Russian from Kunan' region it was nice to refresh some stuff but also clarify and get to know a lot too.
@bruceraykiewicz6274
@bruceraykiewicz6274 2 жыл бұрын
How strange, these modern days, we find stuff out about our own name sakes. Due to the computer, I found a 'nobleman' Stanislaw Rajkiewicz. Yes the old way to spell my very Polish name, with a 'j'. Here is what I found, in Polish from 1663, 'W Jm Pan Stanislaw Rajkiewicz, Rotmistrz". which, when translated says, Sir Nobleman, Stanislaw Rajkiwicz, Captain of Horse(a Knight). He was enobled or 'knighted' by the King of Ruthenia(which I had never heard of). Until recently, I never knew about any of this. In the USA my last name has a 'y' in it. Sorry for the long post.
@tedik737
@tedik737 2 жыл бұрын
Polish names are unpronouncable for English speaking communities so the spelling was changed to keep pronunciation intact. Raykiewicz in English sounds just like Rajkiewicz in Polish. Well I might argue about "cz" at the very end as poles pronounce it as hard "tsh" in English. "Raykiewitsh" would be the closest authentic pronunciation to "home", but its just too much of a mess to be honest.
@SamtheIrishexan
@SamtheIrishexan 2 жыл бұрын
Tripped me out to hear kings and generals
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
Russia at the start of the war: this'll be so easy Russia after Ukraine's offensive: *vodka time stops*
@user-pk1wn8ol1r
@user-pk1wn8ol1r Жыл бұрын
after the offensive of Ukraine turned into a huge US military base
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
@@user-pk1wn8ol1r what do you mean?
@MrThhg
@MrThhg Жыл бұрын
@@user-pk1wn8ol1r if it were Russia be outta Ukraine in 2 weeks
@Gray_ninja
@Gray_ninja Жыл бұрын
1149 prince Yuriy Rurykovych from Vladimir-Suzdal principality first marches to Kyiv. Two years after moscow first mention.
@user-kw5xt4uu6c
@user-kw5xt4uu6c Жыл бұрын
Good job. Really good. Just felt like I had to express that. Thank you for objectiveness
@seanoliver1218
@seanoliver1218 9 ай бұрын
Simple excuse to say the Cossacks are a mystery. Truth is they were always in the Donbas, Donetsk region.
@mxmis1225
@mxmis1225 7 ай бұрын
Zaporozhia, Kyiv, Dniper, Crimea.
@ReSSwend
@ReSSwend Жыл бұрын
Kozak is a word of Turkic origin. It means free man. Free in the sense of not belonging to the clan, to the state. After the collapse of the Golden Horde, the state collapsed and a bunch of free nomads appeared who did not belong to the same khan. They were called Cossacks. Some of them found service in Poland/Lithuania/Moscow state.
@trashrabbit69
@trashrabbit69 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no mention of Makhnovshchina and the combined roles Cossacks played in both the Red, White, and Green armies of Russia. Of course, it was such a chaotic and complex period I would assume its a topic for another video, because hoooo boy things got wild in Huliaipole. Dons, Zaporozhians, and the Kubans fighting each other, fighting themselves, practically becoming the world's largest Deathmatch game.
@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 2 жыл бұрын
This is part of a huge playlist covering all periods of Ukranian History. Check out Kings and Generals for the full thing.
@trashrabbit69
@trashrabbit69 2 жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe Ah, will do!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!!... Love from Romania! !!!
@simplicius11
@simplicius11 Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe What a pile of crap. What is Ruthenia? Such entity never existed nor was called like that by anyone. Khmelnitsky: "" ...so our enemies, wanting to eradicate the Holy Orthodox Church, *so the Russian name* would disappear from our land... in our *Malorussia* ..."
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
It is legitimately painful that you had to use some pictures of "anime" "cossacks" instead of what Cossacks actually looked like at the time. Maksym Krivonos also wasn't Scottish in any capacity. I am skimming over your video and you either make mistakes, or lie. The division between the pro-Russian and pro-Polish cossacks even early on were along the Dnieper river. Vyhovskiy wasn't actually very popular and represented a smaller part of the cossacks. He "won" his position by usurping, and pro-Russian cossacks to the east of dnieper fought him and did not let him advance eastwards. In fact, he wasn't even popular west of dnieper and anti-Russian Cossack regiments were generally smaller than the pro-Russian ones, if I recall correctly for both instances of anti-Russian uprisings, both under Vyhovskiy and Yuri Khmelnitskiy.
@kacperq1987
@kacperq1987 2 жыл бұрын
14:00 Bohun support propolish side and Treaty of Hadiach
@P4Tri0t420
@P4Tri0t420 Жыл бұрын
28:30 Melitopol?
@cemwind
@cemwind Жыл бұрын
The "Sick" lmao, are you Terrance or Philip?
@yuliyayefanova2395
@yuliyayefanova2395 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot from Ukraine for your truthful videos about our country!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina!!!... Love from Romania!!!!
@user-if4ix3qq3l
@user-if4ix3qq3l Жыл бұрын
There is a movie by Jezhe Hoffman called "By Sward and Fire" about the events of Khmilnitsky time, but it's told from a Polish perspective. But still, it has some pretty impressive battle reenactments.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
Can we have episodes about the peoples of Russia's republics like the Urdmut, Kalmyk, Yakuts, Tuvans, Tatars, Crimean Tatars, Circassians, Ossetians, Ingush, Chuvash, Chechens...they too have their language, culture and history endangered by policies of Russification not unlike Catherine's. Their histories should be remembered outside the cyrillic alphabet.
@-andreiDNA
@-andreiDNA Жыл бұрын
You write in a Latin alphabet. Why don't you go and hate on Italians for introducing you to their alphabet, and instead return to Germanic runes 🙄
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero Жыл бұрын
@@-andreiDNA I don't hate anyone for stories of alphabet, for whataboutisms even less. It was just a poetic way of saying these stories haven't made their way out of a certain linguistic area. That's all, chill.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero Жыл бұрын
@@-andreiDNA And as far as I'm concerned English nor French were written languages prior to the latin alphabet so not even that was right.
@voltor3956
@voltor3956 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Ukraine 🤝. But a small correction: 'ch' in 'Sich' is spelled like in 'beech' or 'chips'.
@rocknrollkid90
@rocknrollkid90 Жыл бұрын
Victory for 🇺🇦!
@claudianisipasu4014
@claudianisipasu4014 Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraina! !!!!.... Slava Hmielnitsky! !!!.... Love from Romania! !!!!
@user-pk1wn8ol1r
@user-pk1wn8ol1r Жыл бұрын
@@claudianisipasu4014 how is northern bukovina and cetatea alba?
@EugeneMuratov
@EugeneMuratov 10 ай бұрын
Sietch, like with Dune's Fremen.
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 Жыл бұрын
What I'd like to know is did any of these various Cossack groups identify as 'Ukrainian'. I suspect very few did. Ukraine was just a name for a borderland, a contested area on the map...in fact that's what the name means.
@chadgaston8615
@chadgaston8615 Жыл бұрын
You can search it yourself. Zaliniak and Gonta but any Bar confederation member through a sword or saber. Don boys were of course scared of them.
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not the biggest fan of Khrushchev (although he is definitely better than Stalin and Brezhnev) but he’s probably the only ruler of a Russian empire (yep I called the USSR a Russian empire) who seemed to tolerate Ukraine. His granddaughter even said he would be appalled by Putin’s actions. So while he is certainly an enemy to Hungary, he really isn’t to Ukraine.
@Roachh2877
@Roachh2877 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't kruschev Ukrainian or realated to it.
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roachh2877 Yes, that’s definitely why although Stalin, a Georgian, wasn’t too kind to the Georgians and instituted a campaign of Russification.
@KaiserFranzJosefI
@KaiserFranzJosefI Жыл бұрын
Nikita Khrushchev was one of the chief architects of the 1932 Terror-Famine in Ukraine. Your comment is bafflingly ignorant.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 Жыл бұрын
He was Ukrainian
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
Khrushchev was actually a terrible leader.
@AnimationFanboy2k4
@AnimationFanboy2k4 2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇦
@denkt
@denkt Ай бұрын
Soviets completely replaced Little Russian identity with Ukrainian identity in the 1920s with the localization campaign. They did not create it but they helped solidify it, since the Little Russian identity was associated with the tsarist regime. Let's also not pretend that most people in Ukraine fought against communists and that all the communists were Russians, plenty of communists from the Ukrainian regions. So please don't mention a "complete fallacy" while inventing one simultaneously
@winchesterlyon
@winchesterlyon Жыл бұрын
You're misrepresenting the history of Ukraine. For one, Ukraine in the 15th century never extended to the black sea. It was about a third of the size you presented in the animation. Also, the Ukrainians of that time switched back and forth their allegiance between the Polish and the Russian.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree with everything said in this video except one thing. Before Khmelnytsky Uprising Cossacks where mostly a social class than ethnicity. Off course Cossacks play important role in the creation of modern Ukrainian nation but we cannot assume that Cossack uprising where Ukrainian Wars for independence. Besides modern notion of nation (any, not only Ukrainian) it is late 18th - early 19th century creation.
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it was, however most cossacks were Ruthenian, people who would later be called Ukrainians
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@alekshukhevych2644 You just proven my point. Ruthenians where the biggest chunk but Cossacks where multietnic social class (at least in the beginning)
@alekshukhevych2644
@alekshukhevych2644 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadar1991 Actually no. Right from the start the majority of Zaporozhian and Dnieper cossacks were Ruthenian. Although there were Moscowite and Polish as well as Tatar and Moldovian minorities.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@alekshukhevych2644 But Cossacks never fought for Ruthenian people or any other people. They fought for privileges of their own social class of Cossacks. Alliance of Cossacks and Ruthenian peasantry it is a late occurrence.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@@alekshukhevych2644 That's not an "Actually no," there's no contradiction between this point and the previous one. You're both saying that the majority of Cossacks were Ruthenian, but that they were a multiethnic group.
@realisticmates447
@realisticmates447 2 жыл бұрын
Did he say cosacks or kazakhs
@sorsocksfake
@sorsocksfake 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information. However to note, this doesn't help Ukraine's case. As by this line, Ukraine's historical claim would surrender its claims on the Crimean/tatar lands, Odessa, and some lands in the west if Poland cares for it. More so, it would imply neutrality since the Cossacks stood against West and East alike. Which seems pretty much Putin's primary wishlist, and goes significantly further than the concessionist stance (Odessa making a big difference).
@user-xr4wu4rp2r
@user-xr4wu4rp2r Жыл бұрын
Cossacks are simply Kipchaks and Circassians who have undergone Slavic influence.
@G0TIMAN
@G0TIMAN Жыл бұрын
Borders of Poland should already change after war of 1676
@user-pn9if3bm8r
@user-pn9if3bm8r Жыл бұрын
There is a movie - The Guide, about this blind bandura musicians
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 Жыл бұрын
When did Ukraine first have a war with Russia? Presumably as soon as rebellious colonists who had moved north into the "Wild Fields" from the center of civilization around Kyiv became numerous enough to attack their motherland.
@chernobaivkaproduction4317
@chernobaivkaproduction4317 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate your work. But please correct. It is not Zapozidgian "sick" but sitch
@chernobaivkaproduction4317
@chernobaivkaproduction4317 3 ай бұрын
Kuban cossks came from Ukraine thus Ukrainians again
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 2 жыл бұрын
6:24 why are you calling Zaporozhian sich a state? "Sich" is some kind of a fortress or something like that.
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, it existed on the territories of PLC and wasn't independent.
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 2 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sich
@nothernstar2576
@nothernstar2576 2 жыл бұрын
While Sich is a fortress, it was also a territory controlled by the Cossacks who weren't under hetmanate, so pretty much a state
@svihl666
@svihl666 Жыл бұрын
31:16 / 31:50
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
K. Marx: The Mongolian Origins of Muscovite Power. The policy of the first Ruriks is completely distinguished from that of modern Russia ... The Gothic period constitutes for Russia only a chapter of Germanic invasions ... Thus the Russia of the Normans disappeared completely from the scene and those feeble vestiges which persisted were obliterated by the terrifying apparition of Genghis Khan. The origin of Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery and not in the rude heroism of the Norman epoch. Modern Russia is nothing but a transfigured Moscovy ... Ivan Kalita, the First [4], and Ivan III, called the Great, incarnate, [in] the one, the growth of Moscow under Tartar domination; [in] the other, Moscow becoming an independent power, thanks to the disappearance of Tartar domination. In the history of these two individuals is summarized the entire Moscovite policy from the moment of its entry upon the historic arena. Ivan Kalita’s whole system may be expressed in a few words: the Machiavellism of the slave who wants to usurp power. His very weakness, his servitude, became for him the driving principle of his strength. Ivan III delivered Moscow from the Tartar yoke, not by a bold and decisive blow, but by the patient work of twenty years. He did not break it, but surreptitiously extricated himself from it. Thus this deliverance bears more resemblance to a natural phenomenon than to a human act. When the Tartar monster was on the point of uttering its last death-rattle, Ivan appeared at its death-bed as a doctor who makes the diagnosis and announces the end, and not a warrior who strikes the coup de grace. Every people appears to have grown in stature when it shakes off a foreign yoke. From Ivan’s hands, Moscovy emerged still more debased. To be convinced of this, it suffices to compare Spain and its struggle against the Arabs with Moscovy and its struggle against the Tartars. It is still interesting today to note to what extent Moscovy endeavored - just like modern Russia - to conduct attacks upon the republics. Novgorod and its colonies open up the cycle, the Cossack Republic follows suit, and Poland closes it ... Ivan seems to have wrested from the Mongols the chains which crushed Moscovy only to impose them upon the Russian republics.
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
Needless to say, Marx was not always right. We have a way more objective view on Russian history now, though it will likely get obscured in favour of this narrative again due to current events. People just have to shit on Russian history these days, not that they haven't been doing so for the last 100 years.
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 Жыл бұрын
@@pavelstaravoitau7106 With cost of “black gold” at 15-23 dollars per barrel, the USSR economy collapsed, and the sovok itself collapsed, and the "golden" horde ("russia") budget can only be fulfilled only with oil price at $ 42.4 and higher
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 Жыл бұрын
@@pavelstaravoitau7106 we have been fighting the barbaric orient for the centuries , we Litwins know the drill ... "Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
@@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 old racist bullshit is still old racist bullshit. I can pull out similar quotes on how bad China is, how bad Africans are and how bad the Native Americans are, but I'm not racist.
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 Жыл бұрын
@@pavelstaravoitau7106 death to the golden horde !
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
Brave Ukrainian soldiers and civilians facing Golden Horde invаsion, you are all herоes, praying for your victory... SLAVA UKRAINE🙏❤🙏❤🙏 Stаy strong Ukrаine 👏💪🇺🇦🇵🇹🏳❤🏳 Бабушка - настоящая украинка! Низкий поклон. А оккупантам, хлеб с солью не обещаем, а пирожки с мышьяком - всегда пожалуйста!
@R4mb0L
@R4mb0L 2 жыл бұрын
As a Crimean Tatar from Romania, i am deeply isulted by your bs comparison. Ukraine is invaded by Russia, and that's it. Stop it with the 13th century comparisons.
@captainfreedom3649
@captainfreedom3649 2 жыл бұрын
the "hordes" will finish the banderites and nazism once and for all. "Ukrainian" nationalists are the most hateful people on earth and pure evil.
@pavelstaravoitau7106
@pavelstaravoitau7106 Жыл бұрын
The old racist trope, Russians are always the Eastern Horde. How do you feel reciting nazi propaganda?
@vredacted3125
@vredacted3125 Жыл бұрын
Khmelnytsky did not sign anything with Russians, the Pereiaslav agreement was one between the Rus’ and the Muscovites. Then later Muscovy rebranded itself as “Russia” and Muscovites where forced to call themselves Russian.
@petrogaful
@petrogaful Жыл бұрын
Bavarians call themselves bavarians but also germans.
@k.g.b5816
@k.g.b5816 Жыл бұрын
Least delusional hog rider
@MrThhg
@MrThhg Жыл бұрын
I call myself California but I’m also American. Or English
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of things, Ukrainians and Cossacks aren't as simple as being one, for example the Soviet union forced Cossacks to learn Ukrainian as a way to suppress local dialects and Cossack culture. The civil wars often had little concept of nationalism before the birth of the concept. The Russian civil war wasn't nearly as straight forward as outlined, white officers were surprised by the loyalty of many Cossacks to the old regime though other factions had little and Cossacks as a whole were largely reactive, settling down with agreements before taking up arms when the red started murdering civilians on mass with the clear intent of genocide. Cossacks due to their unique social structures played a very different role to Ukrainians in the war (though both were extensively victimised, though the Cossacks were even more pointedly so, the jews also got special attention but likely not with orders from the top but rather anti-Semitism adding on to the depravity of the Soviet troops).
@ontheline3077
@ontheline3077 2 жыл бұрын
Cossacks were an estate, not a nation)
@dmytrodelen
@dmytrodelen 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like you've just made it up without without any solid evidence. As a previous comentator pointed out Cossacks were an estate, but most of them were Ukrainians. At least if we're talking about Zaporozhian Cossacks, Danube Cossack or half of Kuban Cossacks.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmytrodelen Source is the book The Cossacks by Shane O’Rourke. Yes they were an estate (which is why I didn’t bother replying to the first chap, he is correct) under the Tsars but that doesn’t mean they were simply analogous to the people around them, they had a very unique culture, unique social structures which the Tsar’s were unable to properly replicate via population transfers and the induction of outsiders into the estate in other regions. They were largely self contained communities and even in the west where they had much more of a history with and among Ukrainians the main similarity was the fierce loyalty to the orthodox church, given how proud the cossacks were however of their uniqueness it would be wrong to think they were not distinct from the wider surrounding population. Wrangel is the the officer who seemed to show the most surprise over cossack loyalties which was likely because he had long served with them and viewed them as being freedom loving and having separatist sympathies (it should be noted that in many this separatism did not pay consideration to Ukrainians but was the independence of cossacks as a people). I should have also mentioned (especially as I left a half mangled sentence in there) that the were little groups of cossacks in all factions of the civil war and large groups in certain factions during certain period’s. Cossacks certainly are (and were) important to Ukrainian nationalism but the situation was a lot more convoluted on the cossack side of things and the soviets despite their treatment of Ukrainians made the attempt to turn cossacks into Ukrainians, Russians or corpses (an effort paid off in destroying all historical continuity at least).
@dmytrodelen
@dmytrodelen 2 жыл бұрын
@@vorynrosethorn903 i appreciate your extended responce. I won't deny this historian work, of course, since I neither read it nor am I a professional historian myself. Plus, I agree with some of the things you described. However, I would argue against completely differentiating Cossacks from Ukrainians. After all, at first you weren’t born Cossack, you become him. And naturally only peasants from Ukraine and rarely from Poland were pursuing Cossack way of life. Then, when this group of people became much more influential you could say they become an estate or even elite of the society. But that society was always Ukrainian. You can find it in their documents. Khmelnytsky considered himself the Prince of Ruthenia. And as you might now the term of Ruthenia gradually and naturally evolved into Ukraine. They consider themselves either Ruthenians or Ukrainians and you can check it by googling Constitution of Pylyp Orlyk from 1710 (if there’s a good translation)
@gabrielantonio5907
@gabrielantonio5907 Жыл бұрын
This makes no sense, cossasck orginally were mostly ruthenians/ukranians, and were exctint as a class of people in the 20th century, so why soviets would force an inexisting class of people to learn a language they already spoke?
@lysender2000
@lysender2000 Жыл бұрын
It should describe as Zelensky rebellion
@Polnisch_StalkerPL
@Polnisch_StalkerPL Жыл бұрын
Khmelnytsky, he strongly weakened Commonwealth
@twoneedy
@twoneedy Жыл бұрын
No, the fucking Swedish did, not some random ass Cossacks that we beat like in every battle
@sircatangry5864
@sircatangry5864 3 ай бұрын
​@@twoneedyPilavci? Zboriv? Batoh? The only victory Jan 2 kasimir achieved against cossacks was Berestechko, and this victory was so important (because they were none after or before) that this battle was painted at his sarcophagus.
@nickfinan6031
@nickfinan6031 2 жыл бұрын
Why no mention of Nestor Mhakno?
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 Жыл бұрын
This is way before that monster
@kundeleczek1
@kundeleczek1 2 жыл бұрын
So Polish people fight aside Russians few times.
@twoneedy
@twoneedy Жыл бұрын
Of course, we are Slavic brothers, and those Cossacks are fucking savages
@Reichsritter
@Reichsritter Жыл бұрын
The wild fields were part of the PLC, not Independent
@nosmokejazwinski6297
@nosmokejazwinski6297 Жыл бұрын
Nominally yes, but they were de facto Independent for most of the time as it was hard to assert full control over them
@maximponomarenko2418
@maximponomarenko2418 2 жыл бұрын
You are missing very important period of "Kievan Rus" 882-1240. This is where the state from which ukrainian nationality is mostly originated from. And first invation of ancestors of Russia on Ukraine has happend at 1169.
@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 2 жыл бұрын
This is all part of a playlist and other creators covered more Medieval stuff. Check out Kings and Generals for the rest of it.
@WangAiHua
@WangAiHua 5 ай бұрын
@@JabzyJoe This might be of interest to you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4KnoIyhgMuimKssi=cnQMHlUebTUHFwfK
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
we have been fighting the barbaric orient for the centuries , we Litwins know the drill ... "Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
@Dimsvan
@Dimsvan 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that New Russia - Novorossya was never a part of Ukraine and was conquered by Russians from Tatars? So how come it is a part of Ukraine now?
@ivanborovikov
@ivanborovikov 2 жыл бұрын
You may be suprised but it was presented by bolsheviks in 1920th, actually soviet did a lot during 1920-1930 for national identity of current Ukrainians, they called this indigenization.
@alvarez985
@alvarez985 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ivanborovikov NPCs/boomers be like: Ukrainian nationalism good, American/French/etc. nationalism bad, simple as
@alvarez985
@alvarez985 2 жыл бұрын
Odessa shall return to mother Russia
@captainfreedom3649
@captainfreedom3649 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvarez985 Even obvious Nazi symbols like Wolfsangel, black sun or just the good ole swastika are a-okay, as long as its Ukraine using them. But if youre a white european criticizing mirgration policy, you will be canceled and smeared till theres no tommorow. Thats our democratic and free utopia! yayy!
@cow1816
@cow1816 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvarez985 Wait I thought Boomers were the ones supporting Russia, not Ukraine
@CommentComment-yf5nd
@CommentComment-yf5nd 2 жыл бұрын
anti hamitic m8?
@AnimationFanboy2k4
@AnimationFanboy2k4 2 жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraine!
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 2 жыл бұрын
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@TURBOBLU-fx6mn
@TURBOBLU-fx6mn 2 жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati you’re mad
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