Uli Is Back From Europe, Kristin Tattar Is 1000 Rated, Brodie Just Asked A Question | EP 70

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6:40 Copenhagen Open Recap
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34:21 Brodie’s Twitter Question
45:20 Kristin Tattar 1000 Rated
1:02:52 EDWIN STATS
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[@markclaxton3323]

Just btw, 42 Americans were at the European Open ins 2023.

[@birdinflight3861]

I’m totally with Brodie on this one. The best way to have elite series events in Europe is to have an entire European swing of the tour, during which elite series events in the USA aren’t happening

[@DiscGolfGallery71]

I'm sorry but you and Brodie haven't really figured out yet how it's going to be or how it is even now. There is multiple tournaments happening all over the world at the same time. Not just in USA or Europe. There is no need to have the same players attending all of them. That is not even possible.

[@birdinflight3861]

@@DiscGolfGallery71 nobody is saying that should happen. Disc golf is huge in Finland, Estonia, and some surrounding European countries, and most international players that come to the USA for the pro tour are from that area. It makes perfect sense to do a leg of the tour out there. They are already essentially doing it, but they are spreading out the events which doesn’t make sense because it’s going to be hard to convince all of the pros to take multiple trips to Europe each year. A 5 tournament swing in Europe all in a row makes perfect sense.

[@markush1122]

I don't know why people are making this such a difficult thing. It's simple. DGPT Europe events are mainly aimed at European players (US players are naturally all welcome too). It is not required (and there is no need for) every US pro to go to every European Elite event. They don't have to attend every Elite event, like it is now for the European Pros, they actually can't attend every Elite event in the US (unless they stay there from February to October) and only handful of European Pros can attend the US events at all (like it is with the US players and DGPD Europe events, at least for now). It is OK that players skip an event if it doesn't fit their tour schedule/travel plans. These events are called DGPT Europe for a reason. Their main purpose is to give European players a chance to compete at an Elite level without having to fly over to the US and spend at least 6 months or more overseas in order to have the same kind of chance like the US pros now have to collect enough points to get to the tour championships and most importantly, to make a living out of this sport they love. There is no problem here. If some DGPT Europe events fit US players schedules, then they can play in those events. They don't have to force anything. Again, not every player needs to play in every tournament and we are going to see more of that going forward. I'm quite surprised that people make this such a problem/issue, when in reality it is not. If a US player wants to go to a European event and he has the money to do so, then he goes to that event. Another US pro doesn't have the money to go, so he doesn't and stays in the US where there are plenty of Elite events to compete in. It is that simple, every player does what is suitable to their situation. And the other thing: the players who play in one specific event, that is the field in that specific event. It is also that simple, no need to make it a bigger thing than it is (of course it can be talked about, but not in a condescending way, like some have now). Not every Elite event needs to have every top Pro in it. Things are changing but people are staying in the past and being confused why things are not like they used to and trying to use the old way of thinking to this new situation. Change is the only constant in life. DGPT Europe is trying to make things fairer to players who want to play professionally, but couldn't do that before just because of where they happen to live. The main thing that we need to stop is making this a dividing matter. US against Europe mentality is not the way forward (Grip Locked Podcast...). We are all the same, we are all one and we need to stop seeing in opposites. People fear new (or foreign) things, because they want to keep things like they are now, like they like them to be ("Who cares if some people have a harder time to achieve same things as other players, just because they live somewhere else, I want things to stay like they are now, the way I like them."). Hopefully people stop overcomplicating this whole thing and start to see it in a more positive and relaxed way.

[@thewhorocks515]

I agree. Great points. Thanks for taking the time to type this all out.

[@markush1122]

@@thewhorocks515 No problem, thank you for reading it (and leaving a positive comment). Have a nice day!

[@massmayh3m]

Brodie, the phrase is “breathing down their neck” not throat lol. Jsyk

[@shawnmanson6193]

Biggest thing i hate about ratings.... People DNF just so their ratings arent affected when they are having bad rounds. You see it happen ALOT with ams. Penalize DNF's & ratings will be wayyy more accurate

[@derrickdigiulio4027]

How do you decide whose excuse for not finishing their round is justified or not? I played a tourney a few weeks ago. 3 guys dnf round 1 in ma1. One of them shot 8 over through 6 holes and just quit, but the other 2 guys had good rounds going and got injured. The first guy said he hurt his back and no one was penalized.

[@shawnmanson6193]

@@derrickdigiulio4027 penalize every DNF..... Injuries happen, that's life, injuries affect every sport, disc golf shouldn't be an exception

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@shawnmanson6193in AM’s? That’s just ridiculous. You’re gonna scare people away from the sport completely.

[@matthewscanga7370]

@@leastselfawarepotassiumpeople are going to be scared to play because their ratings will go down if they stink? Negative.

[@Chaser90EK]

I also hate that players won't play certain events just to guard their ratings. I remember how cool it was when Hannah McBeth was playing an event and a spot opened, so Paul played day 1 with 3 discs he had in the car.

[@DiscGolfGallery71]

Congrats to Paul for coming to Denmark and having the biggest points haul of the season. That will go a long way for the tour championship. Not to mention Paul getting maximum exposure in coverage from every round. Come on over if you think it's that easy. It would be wise for some players to put all their efforts in to smaller tournaments. Like a week before or after a major when everybody is already tired. If you score a win in a smaller event you will always be a winner on tour, not just somebody who was 30th in a major. Chantel Budinsky will always be an event winner in DGN coverage. Nobody is remembering all the time what the event was or if there was a strong field. Just saying.

[@Matt-dj3tc]

The points don’t count towards the DGPT. It only counts for the euro tour

[@markush1122]

​@@Matt-dj3tc"DGPT Europe’s Silver Events will only earn points towards the stand-alone DGPT Europe points standings and will not count towards the World Standings. However, all DGPT Elite-Series-sanctioned events in Europe will be points-eligible events for both the World Standings and the stand-alone DGPT Europe points standings."

[@DiscGolfGallery71]

Feel free to check The DGPT standings.

[@therealjwil5]

Brodie sounding like "Dark Horse Vader"

[@legerdamain7132]

Aka “Darth Horse”

[@Dav963]

- Mike Tyson

[@CJski]

*Hoarse

[@isakheijbel7389]

they are having the combined euro tourney in end of june and whole of july... 4 events in continuation... swedish open, krokhol open, european open, european disc golf festival...

[@ericsjoberg8167]

We had local players from Sweden playing in Copenhagen so we absolutely followed it. But it’s always fun to see many top players in Vegas. Multiple tournaments available to watch is a win for us consumers!

[@magnusgranlund3138]

Brodie, you have realy developed. Such a good listener now adays, smart questions.

[@newmanifest]

So happy to see Uli on a roll.

[@LasseMJ]

As a spectator on the course Copenhagen was great!

[@whatcouldgowrong2231]

My kiddos play competitively. We love the sport (play a little ultimate too) everyone seems approachable and kind. You are absolutely correct, these kids are coming for you old guys. Can't wait.

[@kakarot842]

Brodie is still on about the age thing, it usually isn't solely about age in any sport, it's about injuries sustained, that's why some running backs are irrelevant by 27, and others play until they are 34. I think if AB stays relatively healthy, then yeah, he will still be playing well at 32, but if he has a bunch of injuries that effect the strong parts of his game, then he might not be playing at the same level he is now. I think the sport is advancing towards, and will continue towards understanding the injuries involved and both working to treat them properly, and/or attempting to lower the risk all together. I hope this is the case, because I'd love to see the next generation stay healthy and not have a bunch of nagging injuries.

[@sarahdemar7695]

Cass Benton is my home course and Uli just told the best story about our Cassholes ten years ago. Hahaha! So funny. Happy to say that Cass B is thriving under excellent leadership and supervision and Cass League is still second to none with 70 attendees each week and Ace pools regularly reaching $1000+ due to the $10 ace pool but in. Great story Uli, what a delightful surprise today!

[@triz313]

For sure a better place than it was in 2010. I am shocked no one was around to back him up, but the cop appearing and run up that hill and tackling Uli... wild. Reminds me of the chaos when I confronted some rando as he started a fire in some leaves between hole 1 and the picnic tables.

[@Philip.Eriksson]

Content of Gannon in Europe will be the highlight of 2024

[@danielmccachern2307]

2 things: 1) Disc golf is not the NFL or the PGA yet. Touring pros sometimes depend on A, B, and C tier events to make extra money to be able to tour. Keep in mind there are some unsponsored touring pros out there trying to earn a sponsorship. Fans often only have an impression of the top tier pros which don't necessarily need A tiers to make it. Half the pro tour field though, is not making tons of money and the A, and B tier tournaments still help them make some extra money. 2) This is similar to the flight number discussion, but ratings are still incredibly important to at least have an idea of how good a player is. Are they perfect? Certainly not. But I with 100% certainty, I know that a 900 rated player will lose to a 1030 rated player almost every time they play each other. Ratings are much more important at the lower levels, they can help a player decide what division to play in, or why not to play in an A-tier with limited spots if you have a super low rating. I would much rather have ratings than not have ratings.

[@jvladcliff4083]

Gotta say that Captain stamp on the Mantis looks fuking great!

[@nicolodalmonego2785]

What about European pro players? Like it or not disc golf in Europe is growing exponentially. Already the women's field is dominated by a European. We are definitely gonna see more and more Europeans on the top of the men's field. It makes sense that the elite series also go to Europe and it's on the players if they want to come here or not. The world doesn't spin around the US lol. There are plenty of European players that can't fly to the US too. It's incredible how Brodie doesn't see thay lol

[@jameswhite170]

Been watching Niemenen for years. You did not give him quite enough respect.. Id put him in top 3 in the world in forehanding. Insane power, accuracy and touch. He is a freak.

[@PeteEH]

If Connor Rock went to Copenhagen and finished tenth, Jesse would get no more respect, but everyone Connor beat in Las Vegas are still somehow expected to run rings around every european...

[@RyanWert-co2lj]

As a local pro that played a tournament with Paul in January, touring pros please play local. I love the competition! I want to win against a good field!

[@mordek777]

I think Alden and the boys surviving their EU trip is a counterpoint. Also, Cole seems like an example of a young guy who would 100% be prepared for a trip like that.

[@JarrettWBass]

Is it me, or does Brodie just look out of it? He has that what the hell am I doing here?

[@tomatojuice984]

Ratings seemed about right.

[@rman713]

Gannon’s stats look slightly better overall… until you notice the bottom right corner… “2nd in OB rate” 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sxcelite12]

Why cant we find the old tour life podcasts?

[@benjatta]

Make it US East in spring, EU in summer and US West after EU. EU needs atleast 4 competitions imho. And no Elite events in the US during the european leg.

[@shamanschlong]

lol no

[@TroyWilliams-os5tw]

Question regarding crowds... Europe crowd seemed Big compared to the states. Are tickets comparable across the pond compared to the US?

[@scottswearinger8186]

Free to spectate at European events, I believe.

[@mortensandorff7135]

No - the Copenhagen Open is in a public park - so free entrance.

[@enulf]

I'm glad Scott Stokley got mentioned, missed him when you've talked about older players before. He sure needs a mention now and then.

[@cameronsmith7518]

What if an 1100 rated round at every course was -18 and based on previous years played the holes missed take off certain points for that round instead of player based?

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

Jesus bro. Ratings are always relative to how the rest of the field does.

[@RustySeatbelt]

“Best thing about getting to 1k is that you can stop counting!”

[@FaithfulMC]

Ulli being 35, could absolutely be a father to somebody who is 16, 18-19 is acceptable to have a kid

[@ErikB-lm1cf]

I'm seriously interested, how much does it cost to fly to Europe? To Copenhagen for example? Since its usually around 400$-600$ back and forth from Europe to the US.

[@mortensandorff7135]

Thats what it is if you plan in time.

[@ryanweber1946]

Cassholes man, they still exist out on that course, it sucks cuz the people that take care of it are great people, but discs definitely get stolen off the fairways

[@wallyriven13]

How does Uli not understand that the travel debate isn't about convenience, it's about money. They literally don't have the money to fly to europe.. cmon uli..

[@markush1122]

I think he does -> 19:27, he might be talking about those players who have the money to travel, but choose not to.

[@mortensandorff7135]

Everybody have to invest in a pro careeer - you cant have the pro purse in an amateur way.

[@brandonbanthao3278]

I think what Brodie could’ve related the “asterisk” wins in Europe to is the lakers winning the nba championship in the Covid bubble. It doesn’t feel right and people will always bring it up cause the circumstances are so different

[@scottdavis5076]

Brodie hating on the tour players crashing at peoples houses 🤣🤣coming from the guy looking for a caddie every week,day before the tourny starts 🤣🤣

[@connerwilliams9446]

Drink every time Uli asks Brodie if he knows what he means

[@AHoffTheRizzler]

The competition at the Europen tournaments is objectively weaker due to many of the top players not wanting to travel for single tournaments, or not affording the cost.

[@barrypeirson3710]

Paul Ulibarri Discsquire© Attorney at Disc Golf!

[@StuG-pr9tf]

I still think that every player should have a "course" rating...not a "player" rating. Not exactly sure how to work that out, but there must be a way to do that???

[@aray5445]

of course there is. But thus far no one has made the commitment to develop one.

[@HomiesAdventures]

Good ol Cassholes. Great course but some of the locals are real peices of work

[@mortensandorff7135]

Every single tennis pro: " Oh I don't fly - please move Wimbledon, Australian Open and French Open to the US - everything else is super unfair!!"

[@epheezee313]

"They could have all gone if they wanted to." Minus you know...the cost to get there. Wild thing to say considering a large number of players are only touring because they live in a car on the road during the season. To some degree, the players capable of paying for travel can almost buy themselves DGPT points. Uli put in a lot of work trying to justify his performance in Europe even though Brodie was hitting facts.

[@mortensandorff7135]

If you want pro money you need to invest in your pro career - easy. Disc golf is not a US only sport.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

​@mortensandorff7135 doesn't require you travelling to Europe. 😜

[@mortensandorff7135]

Same expense for a European to go to US🤷

[@epheezee313]

@@mortensandorff7135entirely different because they aren’t coming to the US for one event and then heading back to Europe.

[@epheezee313]

Brodie saying "Silas your muted" while we can still hear Silas is just a bit at this point right?

[@shawnmanson6193]

Tattar officially the GOAT, haters are finding it hard to criticize....

[@bernan1]

Regarding being competitive as one ages, how are people defining being competitive? Winning? Times on the podium? Cashing tourneys? Are journeymen tour players (players who cash but hardly if ever sniff the top 10) really competitive?

[@michaelrowe1208]

Cass is my home course. I'm sad to admit I've been stolen from at one point too.

[@andrewdendel7068]

I play Cass Benton as it's in my area. Sad to hear that was your experience there. Fun course though

[@jessebond1159]

I completely disagree! I WANT the touring pro’s to come to these events. I WANT to see how I compare to them, I WANT to see them shoot 1050 rated golf on these other courses so I can see what if I can compete out there.

[@redwood20111]

I will never stop laughing that Brodie whines about ratings yet he himself released a disc with his rating on it

[@birdinflight3861]

Ricky hasn’t gotten worse. McBeth clearly has

[@Kris_Terry]

When Paul realizes if he had a kid at 18 the kid would be 16/17 right now

[@prattacaster]

Basically old enough to be Gannon's dad😅😅😂😂

[@whatcouldgowrong2231]

I dunno. We got lucky and got to play an A tier at our local and some Pros were there. Kids think it's cool anyway.

[@JoeandAmy]

touring pros shouldn't be allowed to play in non tour events. I'm going to compare to another "touring" sport: Bowling, people with a PBA "tour" card are not allowed to play in/cash in most local/regional tournaments. think about it, you're trying to better yourself and compete at the next level and you have no chance at winning if Gannon shows up and wins by 10 strokes. or any pro.

[@XblTechno]

How does Uli not understand that there are probably less than 20 MPO guys that could afford to fly to Europe for a single weekend haha

[@epheezee313]

he understands. He's just doing acrobatics attempting to justify his own performance in Europe. If Paul wasn't there this past weekend, he'd be doing less heavy lifting trying to talk up one event in Europe.

[@Matt-dj3tc]

Brodie- who was the oldest #1 ranked player in the world? If it’s not 35+ then explain how age isn’t a factor in skill?

[@landonwebb886]

Come on Uli, there a big difference between Ricky and Nikolas, Ricky has won 6 majors, and like a bazillion pro tour events, Nikolas has won 1

[@tomatojuice984]

Scratch disc golfers should be able to play in any tournament that has a pro division

[@ga6591]

Cass Crew

[@mikesurvant6730]

brodie needed to go over to Europe he needs ever advantage as he can get because it's not working here over there he could of maybe got top 20 😂😂

[@tdkempton]

In other sports like billiards for example. They don't allow random pros to just enter local tournaments. They are so much better than a local player it's not even possible for them to lose. They just show up and automatically win and take money from the local scene. It literally ruins the local funding.

[@mitzelnation78]

Sias’ mic is too loud

[@Raiaramis24]

At least 4+1. elite, elite, major, elite, elite. US players need to start traveling - if top20 is traveling, already doesnt matter, as strength of the field is already the same then. For women it can be even top10 us players and strength of the field is achieved. Les then 5 tournaments is not a option - but not scheueled like Kopenhagen alone in scheadule - this doesnt work.

[@Mrgreens421]

Everybody played 3days! People are stupid for questioning that type of stuff

[@TRIanBHOMas]

tony hawks wife made sure her husband got the 900

[@yolobutton2451]

Uli story about getting jumped is crazy. Low key that doubles group is lame. I know the doubles around where I play would not let that fly. Every single person would have run over to help you give those dudes a beat down and they dang sure wouldn’t have let any one get away regardless of a cop being there. No shot those guys escape!

[@nathanrivard7374]

I could be wrong, but it might be more interesting if pros were not allowed to practice the course.

[@sethgibson7851]

No body remembers those things and in the end who cares. You can’t pick who plays.

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

I’m with Brodie in this one. No way the majority of pro disc golfers can afford to go back and forth to Europe to play. Paul, you are on a different level of income.

[@user-wf3qu9jm7p]

This is ad is out of control lol

[@chrissheafer]

May I make a suggestion.....arrange the monitor your reading for advertisers so you looking towards the camera and stop racing through it... take a little bit more time, put some passion in it. You're not doing yourself or your sponsors. Any favors either this look. I'm just saying.

[@paulfritsch672]

Pretty weak sauce. Kristin hits 1000 rating. Something super historic in the game and you guys spend 30 seconds talking about it

[@user-bz8go4wu2l]

European disc golf = Professional. U.S.A disc golf = Happy Gilmore.

[@JaredTG.]

I tried watching the Copenhagen open. Couldn't get interested. Felt like a funeral proceeding. My biggest fear for disc golf is for it to become too much like regular golf. Felt that a little bit with this broadcast. I know that's the European style, I have nothing personal against them. That's just not what I want disc golf to be.

[@DD-tw8bu]

How does brodie even have a tour card? This guy will be out of the sport playing events and just being a knock off Brandel Chamblee commenting on players for years to come which is depressing and problematic to the growth of the sport 😢

[@Matt-dj3tc]

They aren’t the same points. It’s separate from the US your and doesn’t count toward your standings. That’s why no one went

[@markush1122]

"DGPT Europe’s Silver Events will only earn points towards the stand-alone DGPT Europe points standings and will not count towards the World Standings. However, all DGPT Elite-Series-sanctioned events in Europe will be points-eligible events for both the World Standings and the stand-alone DGPT Europe points standings." So the Elite events do count (I think someone said that every players 3 best events out of the 5 Elite Series events count, but I'm not totally sure about that).

[@birdinflight3861]

35 is old enough to be the father of an 18 year old lol what are y’all talking about

[@tml7189]

Uli, if you are 35 years old you could easily have a 17-year old son on tour if you had him when you were 18. Your moment of denying your age was funny, though. :) Ps. I'm turning 33 so I know where you're coming from, but facts are facts.

[@Matt-dj3tc]

Sorry Uli …. You’re 35. If you had a kid at 19 your kid would be 16…

[@TheLoamFather]

gd that’s so stupid. cass benton is an absolute dumpster fire.

[@aakoo4006]

Amuricans be like "But I don't have a Passport" or "But I don't fly" but then "Your points, wins and tournaments are way less important because I was not there". LOL. Maybe it's time to fo back to momma and come back when ready to act like a pro athlete competing in international sport instead of just pretending to be / talking like one? P.S. Are all the US FPO tournaments insignificant during the summer, because the top of the world is competing in their home turf?

[@richparks1966]

I start every comment with: 'Brodie you're an idiot, this take F'n suks.' (Fill-in the suky take) ....that phrase has-been deemed universally applicable for any response..

[@ragesuper7858]

Pro disc golfers can barely afford a haircut and shave. They're not going to fly to an event.

[@kennykwong1028]

One of the more boring podcast. Spent too much time talking about wins in EU and germs major win? And what was the other dumb topic that should be 5 mins but argue for the sake of it lol.

[@Rowboats_Adventure]

Uli acting like disc golf companies out here paying for players to travel to Europe. If these million dollar companies would buy flights than the presence would be better.

[@teukka623]

And you are acting like the europeans don’t constantly fly to usa for tournaments

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Yeah pretty crazy that the Team Captain of Discraft would think he has the relevant information on that topic.

[@Rowboats_Adventure]

@@teukka623 It's a no-brainer, but I’ll break it down for you. 11 PDGA Majors (one European), meaning 91% of all majors are in the US 23 DGPT Elite Series (five European), meaning 79% of all elite series are in the US. With all this being said, why would you ever waste thousands of dollars in travel pay for a shot at winning? When the majority of all the money and tournaments are within driving distance and much cheaper to travel to. The last point regarding the financial perspective is to take Ulis 4th place finish this last week. He still only cashed $2081 dollars. He, at best, broke even on this trip in regards to flights, rental Airbnb, food, etc.

[@MessyLio10]

F Brodie and all his negativity, the sport won't get better because of all hid complaining it will get better when he isn't in it anymore.

[@joshlotto]

You notice ezra started kicking ass when brodie was on break from tour? Lol

[@MessyLio10]

@joshlotto absolutely, I hope Ezra realizes how much time he was spending around him had that effect in his mind and learns from it.

[@kearneysp]

This is dumb. Being critical is not a bad thing. Being able to understand the criticism and take it as another way to make things better. If you just say everything is ok, there won’t be changes

[@RileyRankinDG]

hop on the pod and discus this with brodie, would love to hear you get demolished in debate. @BrodieSmith

[@CatchMeOutside361]

So Uli is rich and everyone else are peasants…. Brody is 100% correct when it comes to increasing US presence in the European Tour

[@Barry_MaCockener]

If you play open and eagle shows up it’s on you it’s open anyone can get it if you play pro and I do I don’t care whose there I’ll do my best

[@Barry_MaCockener]

Maybe after Kevin gets married, he can remember how to play disc golf again. Maybe he’s sticking with his fake DJ career. Averaging 60th when you’re one of the top five best players in the world a few years ago is fucking ridiculous.