Ultimate .25 Caliber Showdown!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Which one will do the best??? Pyramyd Air HERE: bit.ly/3jwNmrx

[@zacharybaldrige3047]

I run the 29.5 grain slugs around the house in a magazine and 55.5 grain slugs on a different tune singe fed. 2100psi for 29.5 and 2500 to 2700psi for 55.5 grain.

[@ears1620]

A water jug test would be cool to see how some of these expand

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Soon!

[@nathanw5747]

Everything I've researched expansion wise are varmint knockers . Note they are expensive though !. 15.99 for 100 + 9$ shipping smh!

[@Dutch.1722]

You have to tune gun to pellet. With regulator and and hammerspring tension.

[@Sageofthe16]

No lies! Too bad it isnt a tad easier

[@Dutch.1722]

@@Sageofthe16 Its an externally adjustable regulator. Watch a few videos on it. Easy. You just have to throw some lead.

[@markdesautels4764]

Air gun vs clay blocks might be cool

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Filmed that today. Out soon

[@jasonsparks4601]

Might be......???? How could it not be!!! Can't wait for it to happen!!!!

[@chrisaerts6489]

@@WHOTEEWHO This is a must see cant wait.

[@jasperdawson9479]

I agree a water jug test is in order. I have the same rifle. Mine came with two magazines

[@jrh7647]

Happy to see you exploring Airguns. The available precision is awe inspiring. Shoot'em good!

[@BornRandy62]

on m,y 177 pellet rifle I can drill tacks with the ammunition it likes best and then I will have one or two that goes yonder. I found that I was putting the pellet into the chamber crooked. When I started being real careful to make sure they were going in straight I started getting reliable groups

[@13conair]

i have a Hatsan AT44 in .25 here in the uk, i have a FAC version (firearms licence required) out of the box the rifle was 68ftlb ! i must of shot 25-30 different types of pellets from 50-100 yards, what i found over months of playing with various pellets and rifle settings was as i lowered the power of the rifle the more accurate the the groups became, i shot 10 pellet groups and refilled the tank after every 10 shots, i finally got my 50 yard groups to single hole 10 shot groups and at 100 yards less than 1 moa and the pellet that won out as most accurate was the H&N Extreme ! try playing with rifle power settings and watch your groups change...

[@stevensawyer2489]

Whooteewho, set my notification for this one. VERY INTERESTING!!. MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST THE FIRE PRESSURE ON THIS TO ADJUST TO WEIGHT. But perfect 🥰

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Steven!

[@stevensawyer2489]

@@WHOTEEWHO really like it and music 🎶. Great choices 👌and the great options and tests.

[@WalnutandSteel]

I have been geeking out to air power recently too. No pcp yet but springers, pump, co2, single stroke pneumatic. I got them all!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love it

[@beastmode2990]

As someone who used to have everything but a pcp get one once you get a pcp it will change your life sure it is a bit more expensive than break barrel and springers but it will change the way you shoot get a 25 cal you won't be disappointed

[@michaellane1661]

Great video WTW!🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@Sageofthe16]

Hell yes! You got slugs! Nice work!

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Missed live chat as I had a hectic day & now unwind a but . Those are nice rifles ! Appreciate your work.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Charles!

[@charlesstahlheber5457]

Here you go down the air gun rabbit hole Careful you get hooked. Lol airguns are fun.

[@shawndubay4050]

Very good shooting WHW. I did a little research and saw a video and the avenger likes two different pellets. It likes the jsb kings 25.39 grain and the jsb match diabolo exact king heavy mkll 33.95 grain. One hole groups at 50 measuring a half inch. I shoot them both and they are great. The guy I saw had some time with the rifle and tuned the hammer spring tension heavier for the 33.95 and lighter tension with the 25.39 and was shooting multiple groups with a diameter of a half inch One hole.I Was definitely amazed. It's all in the tuning of the hammer spring and the pellet your rifle likes best. You'll get it dialed in. Just a little fine tuning. Generally heavier is better and packs and carries alot more foot pounds of energy down range. The lighter pellets are good for close range.

[@tommanfs6843]

thank you .......ive had my avenger .25 cal for 2 months now and i LOVE MINE! (added harmonic barrel dampeners, donny fl and a 30 cal moderator) I've had luck with the H&N BARRACUDAS, the BARRACUDA HUNTERS AND....... i think the best pellet for this gun is the JSB KING EXACT 25s (25.39 grain) my reg is set to about 2300 and my hammer about 2.5 to 2.75 turns IN from backed all the way out. I couldnt ask for more out of a $300 gun besides maybe a thicker, more solid sounding stock but im not crying about that much. Keep the vids rollin!

[@wadelucero6461]

Pretty nice groups I think chrono and gel test would be fun you need to know if those slugs will expand also do you think a paper plate test would be safe

[@tommykelley3948]

THIS IS A CLEAR Description ON HOW ALL BARREL FROM DIFFERENT KIND OF AIR RIFLE DO NOT AN WILL NOT LIKE FX HYBRID SLUGS; PEOPLE TAKE NOTE HERE OUTSTANDING TESTING 🎯🌟👌🏾‼️

[@LokiLokiPDX]

Those are air gun pellets & slugs. Which one is the best one will depend on the gun it is shot out of.

[@merlinnorris817]

Enjoyed the video as always .impressive. every rifle as a sweet spot. Just have to find it

[@eddiehuff7366]

Awesome squirrel getter. And...no sharp crack like a .22. :)

[@douglasberg4681]

Thank you for all your hard work on that video I know that's a lot of work. Very appreciated thank you

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@bobjones7568]

Hey wtw can u set up chronograph at 50 and shoot thru just curious what velocity is at 50 luv the videos god bless u and your family keep America great

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@sladeleason4338]

All that shooting and didn't even cost the price of one rifle shell lol sweet video👍 squirrel and rabbit is on the menu lol

[@CB-ck6ze]

Some great groups. I have a Benjamin Marauder .25cal. The best results I had were the JSB Match Diabolo Exact King 25.39. Pretty much all pellets in the same hole. Great for plinking. Next best, still pretty much all in the same hole was the H&N Barracuda Hunter 27.47gr. I used those for critter control a lot. A friend told me about Nielson Specialty Ammo and I got a sample pack of their slugs. The 36.2nd shot amazingly well and after I tuned the rifle for more power but less shots I was pushing them at a hair over 900fps. Small Critters didn’t stand a chance. Maybe some more options for you to test out looking for the best option.

[@bobjones7568]

What kinda velocity are u getting on your marauder sir just curious

[@CB-ck6ze]

@@bobjones7568 I might not be remembering correctly, but I’m pretty sure it was slinging the Nielsen Specialty slugs at over 900fps. It’s been a while since I shot it over a chrono(or shot it in general). I was getting close to 15 shots per fill with the lighter tune and the JSB Match Diabolo pellets. With the heavy tune and the slugs I was getting about 8 shots before I saw them start to drop off. So it’s putting out A LOT more air on those. When I get back stateside I will have to pull it out and do some shooting. I have forgot how fun the air rifles are.

[@tommanfs6843]

i love the hunters and kings (25.39) also ....... i do ok with the barracudas and hunter extremes too

[@JonR35]

Need to tune it in with hammer spring :) for best velocity for accuracy. No doubt killer gun as is

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

You really have to find the balance of regulator pressure and hammer spring tension, the gun harmonics and utilizing the air to it's fullest potential require it really..

[@aurelioa315]

Thank you for posting excellent information. By any chance have you considered doing some testing on any of the air pistols

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@williamcrane8236]

If you need to learn how to pronounce Diablo, watch Smokey and the Bandit. Sheriff Buford asks for a Diablo sandwich at the choke n puke. Also, if you hadn't watched Smokey and the Bandit, enjoy. Now for the fun part. The grain weight on the tin ISN'T necessarily the weight of the pellet. Need to weigh them, seperate them and then measuring them would be a good idea as well. Did the tin get dropped while loading, did it deform the skirt any? Oh those boys that shoot these in contests really get to it. Did you wash and lube them or just slingem from the box like I do. Whoopsies. It would be interesting to see what differences exist in each group of pellets n slugs. I was watching Teds Holdover channel and he was talking about finding a couple tins of pellets that worked really well, so he bought more AND the next group of pellets he had were of mixed results. I've mentioned before, I just have a couple of springers and shoot in the backyard. If I can get em in a coke can size hole at 25 yarrds freehandin, I think I'm doin pretty good. Definately have had some peform worse then others on my stuff. Really would like to get a bench setup and see how much is my waving around at 9 zoomies and how much is the pellet. But, I've still taken game with it so it's not all bad. If the wife would just let me play with the credit card at pyramid air. Little warm right now to sleep in the barn though.

[@edeldridge36]

We need to see some velocities for these pellets.

[@shannonstamey6847]

Awesome brother. Just getting into Air rifles. Have a ball.

[@davidunderwood3605]

Great video. Sure wished you would have chronied those shots. Would really like to see the difference in speed vrs. weights.

[@johndagostino2451]

Would be great to see ballistic gel test of the best slugs video too next 👍🐾🦊

[@jeromereed1097]

Try the JSB Hades pellets. My Benjamin Marauder .22 really likes them and they expand with explosive results!

[@jeffglasman19]

What could or would you hunt with that pcp, and how does it compare to the FX Maverick or impact.

[@myfalconry76]

All those H and N and you left out barracuda green 18 grain alloy 25 cal. I like them. They get down range fast, accurate and effectively. They handle business.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 clay and water jugs 😁

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Soon!

[@richardferguson605]

Hey, I love your channel! I am not an expert on airguns but I have read in Airgun World magazine, which is from England that when they use slugs in their airguns that they have a different barrel because of the different designs from a diabolo design. That may explain how much the slugs are from pellets.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Richard

[@nicholasbarcomb2324]

Pretty interesting. I'm looking for molds to cast my own slugs for 22 caliber. No luck yet, but will find one at some point. Good luck and stay safe!!!! 😉😉😉

[@beastmode2990]

What i did is i found what slug my airgun loves and went to a shop and machined a piece of brass to make a mold i make 5 slugs at a time and it costed less then the actual mold

[@domingoliao2724]

Try some Predator Polymags , H & N baracuda match 30.86 gr. or Eunjin Seneca pellets these are heavy hunting pellets!

[@chrisaerts6489]

To bad you live in TN and I live in WI you would be fun to go shooting with. Great content.

[@lelonbond6682]

did the shape effect the point of impact and size of groups.

[@eddiecahall3824]

The reg is only for setting the air limit for time to fill. The hammer spring is to speed up the rifle for heavy pellets and slugs or turn it down for light weight projectiles. That's it plain and simple. But each rifle will shoot different! Is it's own. But for shooting heavy slugs it is recommended to put in a high power plenum! From Terminador airguns and outdoors U Tube channel store. He's on E bay

[@bobjones7568]

If u have any hogs up there I’d love to see u give some headache medicine with the avenger or the dragon claw I’m super impressed on the groups this rifle if producing keep it coming brother

[@AirgunJohnny]

Helpful, I can skip some weights in my 25 cal, still trying H&N slugs.

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

I've had great luck with Neilsen slugs as well, and they're a little more budget friendly..worth giving a try!

[@stuartbingo]

A lot of the field target shooters here in the UK wash and dry the pellets and slugs to remove irregularities beforehand 👍🏻

[@jaseward3296]

I love the content Who_Tee_Who best KZbin content out there. You have sparked my interest in these air rifles. I am curious if you have seen any performance differences with variation of air temperature inside the air tank as in shooting on a 60 degree day compared to 95 for example. May be a dumb question but thought I’d ask. Also do they create any barrel heat?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching bigtime. Just got it so haven't had the chance to test in cooler weather yet. No, no barrel heat

[@motorgearhead]

Temp can make a big difference. A lot depends on the gun and ammo. Warmer temps yield high velocities. I tend to zero in cold weather and then redial zero in warmer weather.

[@YellowHammer26]

That was a good one wtw 👍👍

[@sevenwonders1717]

Well, Damn... I thought you were talking about. 25 acp.

[@mrhamburger6936]

Out of curiosity how often do you have to clean the barrel these rifles

[@grimreaper6112]

depends on how much you shoot

[@tommanfs6843]

some guys never clean them .....they say it shoots better "seasoned" ....... i clean mine a couple times a year but then have to shoot a dozen or so shots to "re-lead" (season) the barrel.

[@johndagostino2451]

Who tee who I love the 25 caliber air rifle it’s a sledgehammer of a caliber for rat hunting but trajectory you need to understand if your able to shoot it accurately as it has a very big curve 👍🇮🇹🐾🦊🐀

[@zacharybaldrige3047]

I love my avenger i have owned it over a year and it has been awsome. Get a donny fl suppressor adapter and that alone will help your groups and has holes on the guide rod that makes it partially internaly suppressed. My last thing is please check out the Neilsen specialty ammo 55.5 grain 25cal slugs. They are awsome and my avenger still slings them at 930fps. Absolute freight train of a tac driver out to 250 yards

[@northtexasairgunner]

I don’t know how I am just seeing this. You got some killer data. I thought about getting the avenge x tactical. I have also seen some nice aftermarket stuff for the regular version. It would probably be cheaper to get one already set up. Idk lol

[@roberthoffman4713]

Can you do some gel or water jug tests with some of the pellets to show expansion of them. Also if they have bonded hollow points to see if they stay together or fragment. I hear people say you want expansion but you don't want it to fragment. When I was younger I thought that you wanted them to fragment inside. After cleaning game fragments can be a pain in the butt. Maybe they are talking self defense and not hunting?

[@41alone]

Excellent info

[@robertwies6806]

Pretty tight groups there.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🔥🔥🔥

[@Nathanpettit22]

What's your regulator set at when you shoot slugs?

[@Sageofthe16]

Best part of slugs is they shoot much flatter at range that pellets

[@aaronsummerlin9121]

I have been shooting FX hybrid slug 26gr and shoot min 100yrd but I shoot mine out to 200yrds with about 4-6inch groups average but with a 3inch group being my best at that range. Long range accuracy is more important to me. I hate having to clean and prep the FX slugs though so I plan to try AVS slugs next.

[@a7xrules27]

Get the likes up on this! Very good ammo test

[@Matzah1982]

I used to shoot H&N 22.07 grain hornet pellets from my Hatsan 135 QE vortex .25 caliber break barrel air rifle but I found that my rifle shoots the H&N 30.86 grain baracuda pellets more accurately than the hornets and the baracudas penetrate way more than the hornets. The baracudas have a nice round nosed domed head and the fit very snugly in the breech and that tightness improves accuracy and the domed round nosed head and heavier weight improves penetration

[@AirRuna1]

FX hybrid slugs are like the marauder of slugs they are Barrel picky they shoot really well in some guns and they shoot really crappy in other guns depends on the barrel

[@Sageofthe16]

Neilson I guess is a hot ticket for slugs

[@liamspiers6879]

Love the sluggys

[@Fishing0683]

You can adjust hammer spring and reg, use crony, to get fps 850 to 915 find sweet spot which would be smallest deviation in that gun jsb heavys work great 880ish

[@ironhead320]

Ordered mine but there backordered till jan 5 amd got some fx hybrid

[@Cludden79]

Air rifles are nice. Cool to only need the bullet. Perfect for cheap practice

[@tommanfs6843]

you do need air too lol you pay a fraction of what powder costs but you are paying (or getting a good workout lol)

[@jameshoggard7471]

If you really want to get all scientific with air guns you got to break out the chronograph for your velocities per shot string and weight pellets and grouping them that way. Another great video! Maybe one day I’ll run into you at Sportsman Warehouse

[@nolimitracing9752]

You gotta try the NSA 29 grain slugs

[@johnlayne5485]

Good job impressive air gun

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love it

[@andrewavellino6427]

With the prices of ammo lately, shooting air guns is a whole hell of a lot cheaper to practice your marksmanship skills. I recommend if you're getting into slugs try out some NSA slugs,ZAN and some JSB knockout slugs, they're all top notch and will likely shoot just as good if not better than the H&N. It's a trial and error thing, you know. BTW love these type of videos, so much data and info to take in.

[@eddiecahall3824]

Nice! The pellets are pronounced die- uh -bowl -0 not dee -ab- lo. Anyways I recently got my .25 AVA shooting lights out with pellets! How you might say, well first I put a pellet probe delete kit on it then put a harmonics reduction stabilizer kit inside the shroud on the barrel itself then a barrel band. And a suppressor! Terminador airguns and outdoors sells the kits. It won't shoot lights out until you do those things! It wont matter. And you can get a bottle kit and ATac stock as well if preferred. Hey sta slingin that sweet air rifle lead! Ed da pro snippin air man💥👇💪😱😱😱

[@johnpittinger1545]

How about increasing from 2200 to about 2600 or 2800 to see if different bullet weights will stabilize any better

[@chrislang5659]

Nice groups!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Chris!

[@randyadams03]

Had no idea air rifles could group like this. Would be curious to see expansion test

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Pretty wild

[@bertbccfu9564]

Yes air guns have come a long way , I always shot airguns when I was a kid then I got out of it for a while then in the early nineties I bought a beeman break barrel r1 in .20 cal i thought that was awesome at thr time , shot for a cpl years then got away from it again , early 2020 was looking in a magazine saw a hatsan flash pcp in .22 and ordered it I already had a dive tank to fill it, I got hooked again ended up buying six more pcp rifles , my favorite of my collection right now is my AEA hp varmint in .25 cal , ive upgraded it with a carbon fiber 500cc 4500 psi bottle, a huma regulator, magpul stock , a 6x24x50 target scope , if i do my job it can hold 1 to 1.5 groups at 100 yards, last time we were at the farm we were shooting quahog shells at 150 yards with Nielson 30 grain hollow point slugs

[@motorgearhead]

You might also try NSA slugs.

[@Tradhunter]

Interesting test.

[@mackellyman5642]

Man, you're talking my language Mr. Wish you showed some flags and clean the barrel with a green patch worm with 1 1/2 cotton patch sprayed with WD40 to see if you are pulling lead.

[@johnhaylett3643]

try measuring the slugs with your calipers i would put money on the ones which gave the worst groups being a we bit smaller than the others

[@bertbccfu9564]

I couldnt get any of those h&n slugs to group either

[@mantzbrinkman4780]

My take on the data is that while there probably is something about the grain weight but I think an even a bigger variable is the particular machines kicking the pellets out. Precision .22 peeps find the best weight, best brand and best lot. Minimizing variation is the biggest variable.

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

A lot of the ammo air rifle shooters use are more precise than most rimfire ammo, and the velocity deviation is much less, so consistency in a regulated gun is much better than most rimfire guns.

[@randyadams03]

Will watch tomorrow, apologies WTW

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Randy

[@reapergrim76]

Crazy stuff! 😀

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Pretty wild

[@cal30m1]

Has anybody ever tried to use the 36gr 25 caliber pellets for reloading the 25acp?

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Do ya have to cool the barrel after putting all that hot air in it ?🤣

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😆😆😆

[@l.a.3887]

Fantastic

[@scinner28]

Very Very nice clip TBH..in my mind i bet with myself with this air rifle H&N 30gr will do best ..And it did ..Nice shooting nice honest clip GG man.

[@eddiecahall3824]

It should be shooting hole in hole one ragged hole! It won't until it's fixed like below mentioned👇👇👇

[@emillionaire2k189]

Yes diabolo is the best I think

[@motorosso3349]

You can't use firearm thinking with air guns. The gun needs to be tuned and sighted for each type of ammo.

[@prasanmumee5932]

I have a headache 🤕

[@garrettforchrist2700]

Very cool! I'm requesting the water jug test also!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲 1 John 1:1 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

[@randallchunn8286]

🪰🐀🍉🍋🍊🍎🍅🥚☕️ Then repeat!!! Eggs are pretty spectacular…

[@kirkboswell2575]

👍

[@chucklucas8747]

H&N grizzly

[@paulsonja66]

Awesome rifle and video. I have the same One with the Woodstock. I get my best groups with the FX hybrids Running at 940 fps. I haven’t tried those H&N slugs i’m gonna have to try them. I know everyone’s giving you advice but run them slugs 900+ feet per second and the groups should shrink.

[@mrf5347]

I'll take the 25-06

[@Sageofthe16]

$.03 a shot, this is good stuff!

[@mrf5347]

@@Sageofthe16 Wore out 2 crosman .177 growing up. These new .25 really do look good

[@rolandcortes469]

.25 CAL. ANG LARUAN KO . BAGSAK ANG MATAMAAN. SAYANG MATAMAAN MAWALA PA.

[@wes1spence]

2200 on reg. Hmmm.

[@TheJohndeere212]

👍👍👍👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍👍👍

[@erockoutdoors633]

👍🇺🇲 Gotta git me one a them things fer them sneaky deers. Thwaaap! 🦌🤪

[@mrmayhemstewart5138]

Would it be able to take a deer cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙