.25 caliber PCP vs 22LR - CLAY BLOCKS!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Which one will do the best??? Pyramyd Air HERE: bit.ly/3jwNmrx

[@jumpkickman1993]

The hollow-points of the pcp are better for taking care of rodents and backyard friendly

[@stevensawyer2489]

I would like to say air turned up. But I could be wrong but I have lots of faith in the air.

[@papajon6715]

How much approximately for air rifle and compressor please Adam ?

[@stevensawyer2489]

@@papajon6715 couple variations, so depending on that. From 80 - 1000s. Lots of choices and additions. Check pyramid air for more

[@gmsantafeairgunner2169]

The most that air rifle can push cranked up Is about 850fps I can push that 36 Grain 1050fps With my air rifle Not to Brag but give the air rifle a chance Brother

[@throngcleaver]

Speaking of air rifles... In 1804, Lewis and Clark took a .46 caliber Girandoni air rifle with them on their little trip west. It took 1,500 strokes on the hand pump to fill the tank to 800 psi., and could shoot 80 rounds. It was the first repeating rifle to enter military service, holding 22 rounds of lead ball ammo in a tube magazine. Air rifles go back to around 1580. Thanks for all the fun videos you put out WTW!

[@marlonbrando5264]

Like your historical knowledge

[@lloydryan7716]

The .22LR surprised me at 100 yards I've been shooting 22s since I was 9 years old I love the caliber. I probably killed a thousand plus grey digger ground squirrels (what we called them in Oregon) last century (1940s and early fifties until I joined the Marine Corps and traded my Remington pre model 12 pump for an M1 Garand. The .22 went to gun heaven in the late 20th Century.

[@tazzshakur8855]

The .22lr shouldn't be underestimated

[@DinoNucci]

I overestimate it so when I underestimate it it evens out to be estimated.

[@76zrm]

For shure it is! The HV only has 10 percent less energy per sqmm than a 9mm

[@rocknraptor3195]

The squirrels around here know whats up. With the right ammo I've almost blown many in half!💥 As far as defense, its all about placement. Ill always say that! Seen a many deer dropped with slugs, also seen a many run off & probably not die! Shot placement & practice, practice, practice!

[@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436]

10/22 is beast!!!

[@korndawggy1801]

People have poached deer with them.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Either would work for small/medium varmints and game. Love the clay block shots, Thanks.

[@bevis1528]

FX can take down big game. The air rifle he's using is weak.

[@Mark-iu8my]

@@bevis1528 ypu seriously overestimate the amount of power necessary to kill big game or anything else.

[@jackgriffith9229]

.22lr through a 24 inch barrel is amazing!

[@jamiethompson3851]

it'll kill anything

[@nickallen8333]

Why? It looses velocity.

[@evelynblose9791]

the 22 won by a country mile!

[@KansasRoadHunter]

There's a number of things to consider with this kind of testing. The 22lr has a greater cross sectional density, the velocity is much higher, the lead is much harder and it's jacketed. The Avenger is a great rifle but really isn't ideal for shooting slugs. I doubt you're getting 800 fps. The comparison is about as expected. The advantage with the PCP here would be limiting penetration. You'll be dumping more in to the target rather than retaining energy as it passes thru. It's also much more quiet. Cool test and great video.

[@tonybranton]

a .22 lead is NOT harder. and it's NOT jacketed. It's lightly plated which makes no difference in expansion. Only slightly reduces barrel fouling.

[@LG-bi8cv]

Why manufacturer use soft lead for airguns?

[@BigBoyOutdoors2013]

Softer lead is used in airguns to reduce friction in the bore.

[@StuLau]

Why don’t you reduce the distance of the clay (100yards) for the .25 pcp until you get the same damage as the 22lr at 100 yards. Would be very interesting to see the result

[@francisbarbeau1862]

Water test(Bullet Capture) along with the Chronograph would be a Fantastic Video!

[@JeRKII]

First have to say love the faces on the clay and if not mistaken made with a shotgun hull and an random empty brass shell. And this was an amazing way to compare the damage done by the air rifles it really wants me to invest into an air rifle even at the cost and inconvenience of getting an air tank loaded when you live in BFE. Keep up the awesome work

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@brentalanrussell]

Spend the money on your own compressor, it's worth it. I shoot an FX Impact M3 in 25 cal with heavier slugs and am more accurate and can keep up rather easily with a 22lr.

[@edhouse4826]

Energy is mass x velocity squared! 22lr going 1250 fps, 25 slug going 800 fps. Yeh, ALOT more energy.

[@Dave_Nichols]

100 yards with an air rifle, that thing impresses me every time you shoot it

[@TheCoppergoat]

I've shot my Kalibrgun cricket and Taipan Veteran .25 cal PCP rifles on doves and pigeons with proper holdover out to 200 yds. and more I also have powdered guns too for hunting but having PCP airgun are so much fun and powerful. I also have unlimited high pressure air since I have a Bauer air compressor and carbon fiber tanks.

[@gwermsg]

The test I've been trying to find is the .25 avenger vs .22 short. The short should be about the same FPS. I would like to see the avenger in a .30 cal. Nice video, thank you.

[@einarhornraiser9019]

Doggone! That .22LR surprised me! That clay is some dense stuff - for that .22 to retain the energy to do that at 100yds is impressive. I believe .22LR is quite a bit spicier than a lot of folks give it credit for!

[@sd.depaiva9041]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👍👍👍👍

[@richardgonzales4815]

They both seem pretty lethal to Me !

[@sickboy703]

Air rifle compared to .22lr is an interesting comparison. Rock on WTW!

[@buckguide]

Very well done I shoot the aea .25 varmit . Being a die hard coyote hunter after your video I wouldn’t be a bit afraid to take a coyote with one , gonna try some heavier pellets today. Thank you what a great video.

[@VIKING-SON]

Definitely would like to see chronograph numbers for the 25 and 22LR. I'd venture to say the 22LR is traveling over 1100 FPS from the muzzle. Wonder how fast it is at a hundred yards? Great video not sold on the air guns yet thanks for the demo...

[@tedsell1455]

Can Hunt close to Home with Air rifle

[@Dwayne7834]

The air rifle did better than I expected at 100 yards. Thanks for the video

[@ammohead73]

Also the 25 is super quiet, nice!

[@ciro79]

Good old 22lr and good old cz 457.What a beautiful and accurate rifle :=)Nothing can beat that combination .

[@codyjenn8785]

I like the 22 boolot slinger

[@audiehollon4292]

Love the clay block videos. Glad to see them back.

[@airguns_rc]

Love the comparison of the PCP Air Rifle and 22 LR energy dump. Get that .25 caliber slug moving a little faster. Turn up the regulator pressure and the hammer spring and unleash the Beast. Great video.

[@nicholasfantini3638]

That's what I'm saying, crank that pcp up and let's see. But like he said pcp ammo is a lot cheaper and a lot easier to get

[@airguns_rc]

@@nicholasfantini3638 I’ve been shooting a few thousand rounds of Neilsen Specialty Ammo in .22 caliber, 31.2 grain slugs at 1,000 to 1,004 FPS on average. Working on fine tuning them for a 1/4” CTC at 50 yards, and hopefully they will stay around 1” out to 200 yards. Shooting out of my Fx Impact M3 700mm barrel in .22 caliber.

[@nicholasfantini3638]

@@airguns_rc pretty impressive, but you also are shooting a to of the line pcp. I would like to know @ 1000fps what's the fpe you are getting.

[@airguns_rc]

@@nicholasfantini3638 70 FPE at the muzzle. It’s one of my competition Airguns. This will be my Precision Marrksman .22 caliber slug slinger, and any NLR .22 competitions I can go to. I will be competing at the Rocky Mountain Airgun Challenge in Utah for the third consecutive year. I shot Pro last year, and will shoot pro again this year. Already bought my plane tickets, down payment on lodging and car rental. I have three FX Impacts. .22 Caliber, .30 Caliber, and .357 Caliber. All competition Airguns. I run the 100 yard Benchrest and field target matches at the Cincinnati club, Fairfield Sportsman Association.

[@kennymills3433]

​ that's a entry level pcp

[@midwesttacticalair7742]

Next time you need a air rifle that’s more comparable in power with the 22lr and there’s plenty to choose from now a days

[@elc3517]

I love watching these clay block expansion demos. I would like to see next time if you would slice it down the center with a guitar string or something of sorts to see the cavitation of these demonstrations. Possibly repeating already compared "boollots" lol.

[@chrissouthway4406]

Just shows how underrated the .22 is at 100. Yards

[@jumpkickman1993]

This is a good comparison. My AEA challenger puts out about 80 ft-lbs but better hollow points for the pcp than 22lr

[@henrylee4892]

For me no air rifle can match 22 lr as 22 lr's chamber pressure is 24500psi per shot

[@motorgearhead]

@@henrylee4892 - I have a 30 caliber air rifle that will outperform .22 LR

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

​@@henrylee4892 there are air rifles that can handily beat a .22 lr

[@bertbccfu9564]

@@henrylee4892 there are .72 cal air rifles on the market now putting out 1600 fpe

[@airguns_rc]

@@bertbccfu9564 that would be the AEA Zeus

[@carlosdominguez3053]

Awesome video pal. Try the pcp .357 with the nossler bullets and your .22. This would be interesting to watch.

[@luislongoria6621]

Those 9mils are running 80gr on the light side all the way PAST 115gr

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

Already liked it. This one's gonna be good...

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

LOL, I’m thinking the same

[@heathhalfhill6401]

The Avenger IMO is the best bang for the buck out there still today. I own them in .22 and .25 and they shoot just as good as my high end air guns out to around 75-80 yards for a fraction of the price. Will they not out shoot the high end PCPs at longer distances, but they will hold minute of squirrel and that's plenty good enough.

[@Oldnoitall]

That was a good video the clay blocks always delivers but the 22 lr had the best run and go up to them lol !! Wa Yea ( :

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@bobsunkees3392]

An water jug test would be really interesting to see thanks again for a very entertaining and informative demonstration.

[@ElGrantRikun1]

I think shooting at gel blocks it'll show who's best in penetration/energy transfer but to be fairer, both rifles need to be gun powder.

[@travislupum]

I use the same .25cal slugs in my air rifle and they perform very well the expansion is excellent as well they deposit alot of energy quickly great for small game and pesting

[@jrh7647]

The precision of the Airgun is more important than the wasted energy the .22lr loses by blowing through the clay block. Energy out the backside of the target is wasted. For better energy transfer, the JSB Hades pellet opens like a mechanical broad head archery tip. Shoot'em good!

[@jimmajr9224]

great comparison. would love to see how fast they were going.

[@GovtWatchdog]

“Hank Hill, Strickland Propane”

[@thedude6802]

More damage with .22 but more Small game left with .25 plus quieter so possible more shots without spooking other game near first target

[@Lapjan]

😂

[@nolimitracing9752]

Love this kind of content. Keep ‘em coming. BTW my .25 cal avenger is shooting the JSB 33.95grain at 880fps so the energy is just over 58fpe. I have my hammer spring almost all the way in and my reg is at 2900 if I remember correctly. 24 shots before it’s off the reg

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for the info

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

880fps is subsonic..... Clever rabbits might duck it? I know they can't duck a supersonic round(1,100+fps)...still center of mass aim and they probably dead. I've seen rabbits duck head shots from crossbow bolts at about 500fps before.... crazy shit, but I can testify

[@nolimitracing9752]

@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 I actually have this lead slinger tuned to shoot NSA 29grain slugs going 920 suppressed. If you have shot this unsuppressed you know it’s already extremely quiet. This is a perfect small game hunter in 25cal….rabbits and other small game won’t hear or see a thing 💥

[@midwesttacticalair7742]

They some times hear the projectile push threw the air but by time they notice,it’s to late

[@Brianbri-nq3cc]

Speed is king no matter what💥 The only time speed is NOT king is when it comes to "That's what she said"😂😂😂👍

[@johnlayne5485]

Great job the 22 Lr is a good self defense round deffently did the job on those clay block s just think what it would do to an intruder

[@MilesLong556x69]

It won't do the same thing to an intruder..

[@Code_Made]

@@MilesLong556x69 oh really now? Do explain,.

[@letsdothis9063]

@@Code_Made There are tons of videos, and literature on this. I love a .22. I would definitely rock what I've got. For best reference, just watch some of those police shooting videos. Some of those guys get mag dumped by 3 or 4 cops and keep coming. That's with really hot 9mm and .40 cal in most cases. Your chances of dropping a guy with a .22 are very low. Will he die? Maybe later. It could be minutes, hours, or days later. It's definitely better than a sharp stick. Just be ready to tussle if you deploy a .22, because it's probably going to go there. I'm not saying that a well placed shot can't drop a bad guy. I'm just saying don't bet your life on it.

[@timshelley8635]

Awesome video! It went about the way I thought it would, but that 25 is a great gun.

[@timshelley8635]

Yep, please chrono them!

[@normanbanks8902]

Definitely need to catch the .25 slugs and see how they expand. I’d love to get a .22 pcp for backyard plinking.

[@codybradshaw3549]

Hey you should do the 17hmr vs the dragon claw. Seeing how this one turned out it would be fun and it might be close. And you can try the low power and high power settings.

[@timetodopatriotstuff2315]

.22LR still King of the South

[@andrewdisney8475]

THAT was very interesting! LGBFJB! 22lr is always under rated!

[@andrehooker3229]

Man those pcp air rifles are expensive as hell, they literally are the price of a standard gunpowder rifle.

[@CD-hc5ds]

Just ran across this video. I didn't know Hank Hill shot airguns when he wasn't selling propane. 🤣 Dude sounds just like him. Good video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Dangit bobby

[@federicoricardogarciamonta7239]

Got both calibers and love em. Winchester pump action carbine and an air venturi 25 cal.

[@milesstover3724]

brother this .25 rifle is working hard to 'maybe' reach 900 FPS, with those slugs im guessing sub 840. The Hatsan BT65 in .25 will push these buggers up to 1000-1050 FPS. could be much closer comparison to 22lr, just sayin :) i realize you cant just get every gun ever made though lol

[@sparemagazines4606]

Man I can’t wait to see the results of this

[@wadedeeds1738]

Both are good.

[@willyjilly9684]

That was fun! Can't wait until the next video!👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

New videos every day!

[@stevensawyer2489]

Whooteewho this is going to be very interesting. Only difference I know of ,it's illegal to hunt with air around here in mass.

[@jamiethompson3851]

mass just sucks huh

[@sindeecharlton8857]

ho my gosh thank you, i just ordered a 25 cal pcp. so this is great to see.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!!!

[@danielmatthews3420]

Thanks I was impressed with the .22LR!!!

[@pescachile4x42]

Sería interesante vs un PCP de alta potencia, el Airventuri es un pcp de gama baja, hay más potentes

[@nickw3463]

Fun test. Thanks for doing it. I think a slower .22 LR would be a better comparison. The rem golden bullet is going around 1200 fps vs the 800 fps of so .25 pellets.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@michal93587]

I wish you could compare the air rifle with 22LR CCI Quiet, instead supersonic. 22lr quiet is 40 grain but velocity is basically same as air rifle

[@johnlenz2921]

Love me some 22lr but also take out a lot of pest animals here in town with my .25 PCP rifle.

[@thomandstacieverroad8417]

Great video bro you always do a good job entertaining your audience. Question though.. have you found.25 ammo for the PCP difficult to find/expensive?

[@Matzah1982]

Very interesting. I did a penetration test today and made a video of it that I posted to my channel of me shooting my Hatsan 135 QE vortex .25 caliber break barrel air rifle shooting an H&N 30.86 grain baracuda pellet from 30 feet away at 3 back to back plastic gallon water jugs. With the 27 foot pounds of muzzle energy I’m getting from my rifle shooting the baracudas the pellet went through the first 2 jugs and entered the third. Same penetration as a 29 grain CCI .22 CB bullet does when shot from a rifle

[@YellowHammer26]

Good video wtw,thanks 👍👍

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Cool test , thanks

[@biakmawia]

Use fx impact .25 40/44grain at 1100 fps then compare again . or impact 22 with 40grain @1000+

[@JonR35]

Is the hammer spring maxed out?

[@InTheYear]

Awesome clay block comparison! Thanks for sharing @Who Tee Who

[@rocknraptor3195]

Id like to see you test some of the Federal Punch in some clay against some other ammo!!👍💥

[@melissasmess2773]

Wow, velocity is king! Very interesting, thank you 🙏

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊 I wasn’t sure on this one 🤷‍♂️

[@williambowden1509]

22Lr.

[@brauliodiniz7753]

You gotta cronograph the speeds of them. The .22 travels around 1100 or 1200 ft/s and the .25 travels around 850-900 ft/s.

[@3Dima]

Guess, PCP is set up for less speed. But...we simply don't know ))

[@midwesttacticalair7742]

@@3Dimait’s jus that rifle is not made for high end out puts of power,would have to you use much more powerful rifle with the same projectile

[@bullets4982]

Can someone tell me where you can get the compressed air gun charged or what do you need to charge it. Will an air compressor work

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Need a special compressor. I have videosbon them

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

Of course the 22lr is faster, but the 25 has it's benefits, slap a donnyFL suppressor on it and it'll be stupid quiet, and you can hunt lots of stuff with them! Ammo isn't damaged by moisture like 22lr, much easier to buy and store ammo..

[@waynesteele5072]

Wtw love your videos. Like the air boolots slingers that you are showing. Your diversity is awesome. Keep up the great work

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching Wayne

[@KingHaggis]

That was to be expected. The .22LR is usually a lot more powerful than small bore airguns. To get the same amount of energy from an airgun you will usually need a .30 PCP at least. A .35 PCP is usually on par with or more powerful than a .22LR Having said this, the regulated Air Venturi is probably not the best rifle for this purpose. I suppose an Airforce Condor or AEA Challenger Pro in .25 would hit harder and would come a lot closer to the .22LR. Most small bore PCP's just don't have the power to fire a .25 slug of that weight over 1000fps and I doubt this Air Venturi did more than 900fps for this slug.

[@WOMANIZERJERRY]

Set up the chronograph at 5 yards. My guess would be that the 25 caliber air rifle with a 36 grain slug is going about 500 foot per second. Either way it did a number on the clay

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gonna have to see

[@bust3dstr8]

I bet at 25 yards the FX slugs would compete closer to 22lr. At 100 yards those heavy 25 slugs won’t have enough speed to open.

[@surreallife777]

The consensus now is that slugs are more accurate past 75 yards especially if there’s a breeze and the slugs, hold more energy when hitting a target. Many of the FX gun pros are exclusively, shooting slugs now. I can’t seem to find any kind of test showing exactly how much energy a slug will produce compared to a pellet at 50 yards or 75 yards. Is it 25% more energy is it 50% more energy? Have you done any test on this? If not would you consider doing any? Basically, it would have to be done using plywood, ballistics gel, and possibly a hog skull to see the penetration compared to a pellet.

[@kencoffman7145]

Would you please do the same test with cci quiets vs. the air rifle?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@VikiKay]

My 25 cal FX Impact the penetration is 3 inches through Solid Wood (not plyboard) at 40 yards.

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Awesome video brother 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@steveoszman8746]

Good video chief, with cartridge cost the air rifle gets used a bunch more here. The clay blocks show that the things are serious hunting tools.

[@oldromanbulldog2675]

I have hunted with both a .22lr and with a .25 umarex origin. The origin had better accuracy and much tighter grouping at 100 yards and it doesn't scare every other possible animal away for a mile around as it is about 1/4th as loud.

[@300mag83]

That was a really fun video!!!!

[@merlinnorris817]

Always love to see the water jug test Enjoyed the video as always

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

Nice video, you answered a question I was curious about for a long while. Thanks

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

Ran into something really odd with the Diana Bandit PCP pistol I recently picked up. It's maximum rated velocity is 630 FPS in .22. As it's unregulated, I wanted to figure out its velocity curve. Somewhere between 130 and 140 BAR remaining in the tank, it did something rather surprising. I made one shot at about 650, and the next at over 680 FPS. I thought my chronograph was malfunctioning, so I tested it with another gun that I knew what to expect for velocity, and it was right in the ballpark. I rebooted the chrony and tested it again. Right on. Took my next two shots, the first hitting 730 FPS, and the next hitting 784. It dropped in velocity over the next couple shots back down to around 600. I'm going to have to test this again and see if it'll still shoot those ridiculous velocities. The gun's supposed to get a maximum of around 12 foot pounds, and that top velocity shot was 19.

[@southgastacker1630]

This is called the shot stringe curve that will get from Unregulated PCPs lol

[@archaicsage4803]

Quite, accurate, and clean. Nice.

[@briangleason5597]

Can you use a regular pellet in .25. Fx airguns has the slug barrel.

[@stephangronau1082]

I love the Air and the powder burners

[@louislarose6613]

Cool Test ! it would have been interesting to see a couple of .22 Shorts in this test as well.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@Dutch.1722]

Apples and oranges. The remington golden boy is big medicine. It would work for squirrel, but its better on varmits. A more comparable round would be the cci standard. Or the cci hollow point, but its not so much past 70 yards for accuracy, but for this side of 50 yards, a squirrel is a gonner.

[@ronaldgarvie9661]

The 22, but the video was a fun one.

[@justentertain9512]

I got burno mod 2E i love this .22 lr. I have take down many deer in the range of 30-80 meter range

[@T-Bone-Grizzle]

First shot with the .25 was near the top so the clay bulged up. When it was hit more center it made a much bigger hole.

[@abelincoln95]

My Hatsan .22 is not regulated. So I start out with shots at ~900 FPS and gradually go down about 3-4 FPS per shot over 2 magazines/ 24 shots. It's more noticeable at longer ranges, but I'm usually shooting 20-40 yards. I just top off after 24 shots. I'm used to the routine and it's not a bother to me. Maybe I'll upgrade to a regulated PCP some day. Great stuff, WTW!!!

[@bullets4982]

what do you use for the compressed air

[@garrettforchrist2700]

Great video! I was curious to see what the .25 could do!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲 Isaiah 40:31 31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

[@pootinhammer]

would like to see a .22 rimfire vs a .25 texan with a slug

[@natereinhold6180]

I really didn't expect the .25 to underperform so badly. Might be too hard cast lead for the h.n. slugs