Ultimate C8 Flashlight Mod!

An EXCELLENT mod for beginners. Learn how to make this long throwing super flashlight for yourself. Its easy to do and budget friendly.
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[@Vlad-dg6dn]

What do you mean when you're saying at 30 seconds? Does it take 30s until it reaches the maximum light, or after 30s it heats and stops?

[@georgekokologiannis3783]

It measures the output 30 seconds after turn on , because the reading exactly at turn on will be higher (and it only lasts for a few seconds) .

[@Lumencraft-]

If you measure right at turn on you get a falsely high reading. Waiting for 30 seconds allows the output to level off and gives more consistant and precise measurements.

[@JasonWW2000]

Vlad Constantin Radulescu The 30 seconds is one of the requirements of measuring to ansi-fl1 standards that most flashlight companies agreed to use. The amount of time they chose, 30 seconds, allows for heat to build up and for the output to stabilize so as to give a more realistic lumen measurement.

[@davemz999]

30 seconds much better reflects typical usage than "at turn on".

[@gunbojason]

AdventureSportFlashlights I’m thinking about modifying my old Led Lenser P17 by putting a Cree XHP70 (6v version) and it is a bit confusing for me. I have the Olight H2R nova that has the XHP50 but I am really wondering how does it work with just an 18650 battery at 4.2 to 3.7 volts since the xhp needs 6 volts.

[@edyoung812]

Got interested in LED flashlights recently. Stumbled upon your C8 video and was amazed at the throw the modded C8 produces. Subscribed to your channel to learn more...excellent videos! While I learn more about the LED flashlight hobby and fabrication, I picked up a Thorfire C8S to get started. Ordered a charger and batteries from your online store. Looking forward to modding my own C8 thrower!

[@SWEDSHECKER]

Matt, you should do a revised version of this video with the most recent LED's and talk about the differences between the LED's available.

[@hullinstruments]

Hell yes he should

[@jamesguralski5156]

Any ideas?! What's best setup?

[@athomas2k8]

Don’t think he likes you

[@Prometheus1111]

I've always loved flashlights cheap or expensive but I've taken it up as a hobby. I'll be starting to do flashlight reviews myself. Hopefully I can start doing mods myself.

[@rocheuro]

now i wanna mod mine! c8, c12, S2+.. and others!! PLEASE make more vids like this! cheers!

[@mariomenjivar1692]

I just did this mod and it was my first mod so there was some hiccups but it works great now.. brighter then stock for sure..last night was not even foggy and it had a serious light saber effect.. it was pretty awesome, this thing can throw!!!..thanks for the info.im gunna put details about my build on blf

[@Lumencraft-]

Congratulations on your first build! Thanks for sharing M Menjivar.

[@RCTPAVUK]

Hey, I come from IT background, and there's something to think of: A processor draws say 95W under load, and it can get hot. If you use solder like Indium and compare the temperatures between thermal paste, you will get 20c cooler temps on solder...

[@chuckpruitt326]

Another great video Matt. Thanks for sharing & keep up the good work. :)

[@jamesguralski5156]

Matt you need to build great lights for the consumer! We all end up by crap at the box stores!

[@BigTwistedLeo]

I built one of these using a Convoy S11. You can get the driver adapter from Banggood. It's not the thrower the C8 is because the S11 comes with an OP reflector. Very floody beam and great runtime on 26650 battery.

[@paco_rider]

If i use a xhp50.2 will it be a little more flood?

[@averagerider92]

How do you measure current and power requirements for an LED? I've read that in some cases like the 219bs require resistance if you use a single emitter and suggest thinner or longer wires from the driver to mcpcb as one way to create the resistance and not fry the LED.

[@joeframo3347]

You're just brilliant in electronics man you just have to knack for it you're freaking awesome it's your freaking brain is special

[@zeremeficostechchannel6751]

Great video, people will have to order an xpl centering gasket or use the XML with some thin glue.

[@johnbiggins4864]

What a flashlights geek....im amazed your skills...

[@TheLordMuzzy]

Great vid mate... Subscribed!! 👍🏻🌟🔦

[@VIKING33NY]

Your Videos are Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@Vitaminj1973]

So, I was looking around for product reviews and I fell down the rabbit hole here! You've got me wanting to try something like this even though I originally just wanted a long throwing, single 18650 pocket-ish sized light.

[@jeremys8360]

VitaminJ lumintop gt mini

[@jessethemes]

Love the video. Thinking about this mod myself.

[@jessethemes]

Will you please tell me where I can get that led. You don't sell it anymore it looks like. .. Do you still recommend this build or have you upgraded it's components? Thank you for the help I'm really to order lol..

[@chuckles470s9]

Nice video. I am new to the hobby.

[@joeframo3347]

Another freaking great video

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

This is INSANE DUDE. 👍👍👍

[@anaji5723]

Hello dear I have duracell 300 flashlight using 4xaaa battery but I have not the battery holder.Is the batteries in series (6 volts)? And how to remove the butten to clean it.

[@littleacorn98]

Excellent teaching 😊 Thank you ☆☆☆☆☆☆

[@Evaed100]

You make some of the best how to videos ever. Now I want to tackle my own c8 asap. Thank you for your time and knowledge, keep up the great work!!

[@Lumencraft-]

Thanks Evaed. Let us know how your build turns out.

[@Evaed100]

Well I've got it built using a www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=663&search=17mm+driver with cree xp-l hi v3 on noctigon 20mm mcpcb with no tail spring bypass as of yet and it worked for about 2 minutes then quit all together. I can't find anything wrong but something is. Any tips to figure this out what went wrong would be greatly appreciated, this is my build so I'm as new as it gets lol.

[@Evaed100]

I think I figured it out, seems the driver was shorting out somehow. I gently filed the rough edges off the board and now it works great! I really hope that was right thing to do lol. Getting easy 200 yards out of it and still have to do the tail spring bypass.

[@Lumencraft-]

Great job trouble shooting. These kind of things happen to us all.

[@pophamlarry]

great video flashlight looks brighter than my pelican 7600..... and that's really saying yours is BRIGHT! GREAT VIDEO AND MOD! THANKS

[@Lumencraft-]

Thank you Larry

[@richresident4377]

Sir , I need to replace the led in my Astrolux FT03. Any suggestions and where I can buy the parts?

[@station30122]

Can any led flashlight be spring bypassed with a piece of wire and solder?

[@danielgr1495]

Nice job. C8 is my favorite flashlight. Now I want to build something with OSRAM KW CSLPM1.TG. Could You tell me what driver would You use to this led ..??

[@harisyoung4110]

what wire gauge is suitable for this mod ?.. if i use 20 awg instead of 24awg, is it ok ?

[@starr7491]

Is there a new upgrade led to do now? Your site does not have the old led.

[@RelakS__]

"MCPCB doesn't touch only the very edges" I have some bike lights with similar assembly. Can be this the cause that the light goes extremely hot, while it produces less light with 3 XM-L2 LEDs then a way cooler Busch+Müller light? Any of them above 80 lux :D

[@44louix]

Hi if I used the same 4modes driver Will it be the same or the Mosfet is more powerful?

[@abcchannel1709]

Nice one bro.

[@polarweis]

Nice vid, nice music, great editing. Keep it up.

[@Lumencraft-]

Thank you.

[@polarweis]

AdventureSportFlashlights is there some kind of ramping software for the c8 ? Got a c8 in the mail and want to mod it for throw.

[@Lumencraft-]

I have the firmware described here with a ramp function. asflashlights.com/-diy-parts/34-3000ma-led-driver-board-custom-modes.html

[@ralphjames2520]

Hi is this available? Looking for flashlight Nightwatch nsx3

[@nathanwarrick8188]

Does this mosfet driver have a turbo mod ?

[@davemz999]

Nice video Matt. That modded Convoy is smok'n.

[@Lumencraft-]

Thank you Dave

[@kepa109]

Looovee your videoooss!!!

[@averagerider92]

I did this mod and it's pretty awesome! How can I ramp up the emitter to 5-8amps? I have several qlite 3.04 drivers

[@Lumencraft-]

To consistently get that much current you need to use a buck driver and two batteries. Some XPLHI emitters will give you 5+ amps on a fully charged cell if you use the mosfet driver, but when the over voltage from the cell wears off the current will drop a bit.

[@tylerdriskill6668]

Could you use a xhp70.2 in a c8?

[@irawanfajar6164]

Can u get uhi 40 max from nitexore?

[@petersimon3066]

good job and vid

[@mariomenjivar1692]

I'm buying all the stuff I need to do this .. I never done a light before. But that looks a lot brighter then my c8. I like!!

[@Lumencraft-]

Let us know how it turns out :)

[@mariomenjivar1692]

AdventureSportFlashlights I will for sure. I read the info now. I guess I need to get the 3 volt. Since it's running 1 18650?

[@mariomenjivar1692]

I seen a new upgraded c8 with this same led with a ak47 driver.. so is the driver you put in this thing the reason this is a beast of a light ?

[@Lumencraft-]

The driver is a big part of it. Using a quality emitter on a direct thermal path mcpcb is the other key component.

[@Lumencraft-]

Yes, the 3 volt driver is what you want.

[@pgharaghani28]

Hey Matt, I would love your professional opinion on this: I have had the c8 in the past and have had a c12 now for the last 3-4 years. I personally think the c12 is a much better host and has a longer throw (I think, I've never had a c8 and c12 at the same time to test them side by side) but I would love to get an opinion from you on the C12 vs. C8 dilemma a lot of people have!

[@karzygijose]

C12 huh

[@rustyandrachelloveland5118]

The only light reviewer I remember by name

[@advancedmonkey7702]

Hey man, I am just getting into the world of the flashlight recently and I found your videos very informative and newbie-friendly! I bought one of the Convoy C8 because your recommendation and planning to do the mods in this video myself. but I am still a bit of worry about if I can pull it off because I have no experience in modding flashlight AT ALL. I watched the video like10 times and feeling some steps still missing, do you have any tips and advice for me on this C8 mod? keep up the good work and I think your channel has a bright future!

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi Neal. Glad to hear your going to give it a shot. There probably are some things missing. Modding does take some creativity and patience, but if your determined to do it, you'll prevail. I have a couple of videos about soldering that may help. The number one most important thing about modding is not to be discouraged if things don't go perfectly as planned. Even those of us who do it all the time hit bumps in the road. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z57FYpqLm7qLibc

[@LFPSair]

I am inspired by this great video, can I put XHP70.2 (from your site) into this mod with your mosfet driver to get a even higher lm? Thanks a lot.

[@Lumencraft-]

Thanks. You can put the XHP70.2 in a C8 but you would need to use the 6V mosfet driver and a pair of IMR 18350s. The run time would be very short though. The batteries would last only about 8 minutes on full power.

[@snxferock8764]

Hi Matt, beginner here. Was thinking of this mod and i realised that in the video you are using the XP-L Hi V2. But the site info on your driver board says XML2, XPG2. So is the XP-L Hi V2 compatible with the driver board? Im confused...

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi, You can use this driver with any 3 volt emitter like XPL, XPG, XML, as long as your thermal path is correct you should be just fine.

[@josephkuser]

Thanks for the reply to my previous comment! KZbin wouldn't let comment on that post again. One more question. I ordered a fet+7135 driver from Mt electronics for this build. Is that the right one? I didn't see one that said mosfet and I read somewhere it's often abrieviated as Fet. But it has 7135 chips so it's confusing.

[@Lumencraft-]

Yes, that driver will work perfectly in this mod. The single 7135 chip on that board is only to smooth out the appearance of PWM. Most of the current will travel through a separate channel.

[@Lumencraft-]

That driver will also work. You will get lower current than you would if you use a mosfet like the one from my shop or the +1 7135 board from mountain. For some reason I found those boards to be much higher in resistance.

[@averagerider92]

I have a bunch of 18 gauge wire, can I use this for the bypass and on the mcpcb wire leads or so you recommend a different type of wire/gauge?

[@Lumencraft-]

I typically use like 22g myself. 18 will work but sometimes when you use really thick wire the spring can't compress and it will mash the tail end of your battery.

[@averagerider92]

@@Lumencraft- cool thx, i was worried overloading the wires but sounds like the concern is a non issue

[@ekkacullenful]

Iv gone from a xh-pl hi 2v 1a to a noticgon like yours and I didn't see a major improvement, am I doing something wrong?

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi Warne. I would not say your doing anything wrong, just that there is still room for improvement :) If you really want to see a jump in the output you need to also upgrade the driver board. The main advantage to using an mcpcb like noctigons is so you can drive the LED much harder. For the best results you can either use the mosfet type driver, or you can solder some extra 7135 chips ( those 4 prong chips all over it) on the existing driver to add some current.

[@JasonWW2000]

I'm surprised to see you leave the insulation on your bypass wires. I've found that the thick insulation prevents the spring from fully compressing. This can make using a long battery a real pain. I started going one step beyond removing the insulation. I use some fine copper braid typically used for desoldering. It's a bit tricky to use as it soaks up solder fast and can get stiff, but if your quick you can get it right. I put the braid flat on the bottom and top so I can fully compress the spring. It seems to work really well. Keep up the good work Matt.

[@Lumencraft-]

Yes, if you need extra space dumping the silcone will help. The main reason I leave it on is because I worry that the constant up down motion of the spring can cause pieces of wire to flake off and create a short. So far I've never heard of anyone reporting that though :)

[@JasonWW2000]

AdventureSportFlashlights That's an interesting thought. Another reason to go with braid. :) It's super flexible and probably has much less resistance than a small wire. I know the factory bypass wire on my Convoy L6 broke after a few compressions. Now I use braid because it has a larger contact point on the ends.

[@YOUTUBEISRANBYRETARDS]

Someone showed using a copper braided wire too bypass the spring and said it gets a better output then normal wire.

[@arvelrayvaldez2112]

is it a 22 gauge wire?

[@SteveKluver]

Another great mod video! Thanks. Next up possibly, a mod for the Utorch UT02? That one has me interested too.

[@Lumencraft-]

The UT02 would be a pretty tough mod since its an e-switch in a small space. I was thinking about maybe doing some multi emitter mods in 18mm hosts next maybe?

[@SteveKluver]

That would be cool! I just have that UT02 burning a hole in my head at the moment. Your up to a good challenge though, right? : - ) Do you have a UT02 there? I just got back to my office a little bit ago, and I see several UPS packages laying here. I am sure that there are at least 1-3 new flashlights in that pile of boxes. I am going to need a check list soon. So that I don't end up buying two of everything!

[@Lumencraft-]

Oops. I have a UT01 not a UT02. That is the light I was speaking of a moment ago.

[@elmanitasdeplomo]

What would the battery life be on one of these? It looks super fun to do.

[@Lumencraft-]

On full blast you'd get around 50 minutes.

[@dziubek123]

How about putting 3x XP-L Hi into Convoy C8 shell? Those DIY videos which you are making are super interesting. Great thanks.

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi, Thanks. I will try to do more DIY vids starting late December/early Jan. :)

[@garretthart13]

Make more videos , I want to get in to doing my own lights

[@josephkuser]

Okay thanks again! Would I be able to add 7135's to it? Seriously that's the last question lol had no idea you had a shop I'll definitely use it now.

[@Lumencraft-]

Questions are fine bro. That's what this type of tutorial is all bout, helping people to understand. It would not be helpful on that driver. There are 2 channels on that board. The main channel where a large amount of current flows. Then a second channel for the 7135 where a small amount flows. They "fire" at opposite times as each other. The PWM in the small channel fires at the opposite time as the large one (but with less light) to "fill in" the gaps so you dont see any blinking from the PWM. Here is a great video by Advanced Knife Bro that explains PWM in detail kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5espWyVnsyFkMU

[@josephkuser]

Great info! I picked up 2 mosfet drivers from your store! Thanks again

[@averagerider92]

Can I use lead free solder? Any specific solder to use for best current?

[@Lumencraft-]

You can use lead free, but I find it harder to work with. Does not melt as well. What solder you use will not make a huge difference in how much current you see to the LED.

[@ducttaperulestheworl]

great tutorial but I wouldn't recommend spreading the thermal compound but rather leave it as a single bead. Spreading it will introduce air bubbles but squeezing a bead of it will push any possible air out. But flashlights are tiny so these rarely applies

[@Lumencraft-]

Thanks for sharing :)

[@jamespalmer5407]

ducttaperulestheworl nah i think your wrong, a single bead sounds stupid to me, i think what he discribed in the video was the best way

[@LumenChaser]

james palmer to each is own but same rule applies to computer CPUs, your not supposed to spread it out, you let the heat and the Pressure of tightening it down spread it out

[@chefgav1]

@@Lumencraft- yes.This is how its done in the computing world

[@khybersafi9137]

Great tutorial as always. Can you do a tutorial on how to pot the driver? Thanks.

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi Khyber, Is there a particular light your wanting to do this on?

[@khybersafi9137]

I will probably do a few builds with Convoy hosts so most likely C8, M1, M2, S2+.

[@tylerdriskill6668]

How much did this build cost?

[@luizgustavoveras2888]

Hi,anuncia o driver led in Aliexpress

[@dragster100]

Although I already can do flashlight mods by myself and have done quite a lot in the past (greeting from BLF!) but I still can pick up some tips from your video which are quite helpful, thank you! The latest Convoy C8 already come with the XP-L HI on DTP copper board, so you can just buy the finished light, don't even need to do anything with the LED but just swap the driver into a FET one. After that you just need to do the spring mods and you have powerful C8! By the way what battery do you use in your C8?

[@Lumencraft-]

I use the Sony VTC6 3100ma. Low internal resistance and good capacity.

[@dragster100]

Which seller did you order your VTC6 from? A lot of Chinese are unable to ship lithium batteries nowadays and it is really a pain.

[@Lumencraft-]

IIRC it was from Illumn.com

[@josephkuser]

A friend and I both built these but were both having trouble with them. Very inconsistent problems, hard to describe. Programing is difficult and sometimes just stops working completely for a few min even if the battery is taken out and replaced. My friends seems to have a spotty connection somewhere. Can't figure out where though. Wondering if the drivers are screwy. Any ideas? We're new at Flashlights but not soldering. All the joints are good.

[@josephkuser]

@AdventureSportsFlashlights

[@Lumencraft-]

I'd be glad to help you with that. Starting with the light that has a flicker. I would check to see if the retaining ring that holds the switch in place is threaded in tightly. I have found these to be loose many times causing issues similar to what you describe. If your host is a Convoy the tail cap rings are a reverse thread in many cases. Also check the driver retaining ring and other points of electrical contact to make sure they are solid. You can also try removing the tail cap totally and just jump the connection between the battery negative and the body of the light, if the flicker stops you know the weak connection is in the tail. If it does not check the other end. For the mode changes/random shut off. It sounds like you may have a short. I would check the driver closely and see if any accidental solder bridges were made. In some china made lights I have also had the retaining ring or the lip where the driver sits be too close to the on board components causing a bridge. It's always possible that a driver simply is bad, but with this board it's pretty rare. I have them manufactured in the USA, all the components are assembled by machine (all thought I suspect the pcb itself may be outsourced to China) so QC on them has been pretty good.

[@josephkuser]

AdventureSportFlashlights tail switch has been eliminated by switching our tail caps and flickering still occurred. We also took the whole tail assembly apart and inspected and reassembled. I just did what you said again also to double check. They are both convoys. I just remembered that the light will only come on if you unscrew the bezel a little bit

[@Lumencraft-]

Ok, I hadn't thought of this until you said that bit about unscrewing the bezel. It's very possible your reflector is shorting out on one of the LED wires.

[@josephkuser]

AdventureSportFlashlights I think that might be it! Let me play with this a bit and see what I can come up with. I'll let you know. Thx!

[@RD-fb6ei]

Could you please explain to me how this works? I thought the XP-L HI was only rated for a maximum of around 1000 lumens? How did you get such high numbers? Also, I keep hearing about people saying they run their XP-L HI at 5 amps or more or something like that, but isn't the XP-L HI only rated for a maximum of 3 amps? How can you run it off of 5 amps?

[@Lumencraft-]

Sure. If you create a really good thermal path its possible to drive the cree emitters much much higher than what they are rated for. I think Cree rates them at lower current because they assume most people will use the old style mcpcbs and they want to shoot for at least a 5 year continuous life.

[@RD-fb6ei]

AdventureSportFlashlights Thanks man

[@darksanches999]

And if you put the led Luminus SST-40 will be better?

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi ds. I've not tested that emitter yet. Here is a thread at BLF about using it. budgetlightforum.com/node/55121

[@josephkuser]

Great video thanks! Protected or unprotected cell? What do you suggest? Also why a mosfet? I tried to read on it a little but way over my head. Thanks.

[@Lumencraft-]

I use unprotected myself. They are lower resistance inside which means the LED will be driven harder. A Sony VTC6 is a great choice. Same answer for the mosfet driver. 7135 based drivers like nanjg 105C limit current to about 3 amps, and also add resistance to the build. The mosfet is basically like running the light with no driver in it at all. Direct drive off the battery, but you have the benefit of lower modes created by PWM. Other than Cree advancements in LED tech that driver is the best thing to hit the flashlight industry in 10 years.

[@walterlangkowski4723]

I need to start doing these mods and get it down pat

[@NonnofYobiznes]

*subbed*

[@jamesbarrington4729]

👌😄👍✨✨great stuff...!!!!!..

[@donjones2500]

do you sell this on your website? or is the one on your website stock?

[@Lumencraft-]

The one on my site is stock.

[@rickcortes_7654]

Jedi master.

[@LumenChaser]

I have the thorfire c8s, should I de dome the XML2 in it?

[@Lumencraft-]

It would give you about double the throw if you did :)

[@LumenChaser]

AdventureSportFlashlights can I just use a razor blade and cut it off or is there an other way I should be doing it

[@Lumencraft-]

Yes, you can just slice it off. Be careful not to cut so close you nick the bond wires over the emitter. I leave about 0.020--0.030" (twenty to thiry thousandths of an inch above the dies. The most common way to do an XML though is to take the emitter and mcpcb out of the light and soak it in high octane gasoline over night. The dome will just pop off, then clean it with rubbing alcohol to remove the gas residue and let it dry. This will take it off right down to the emitter. The gas treatment does not work on newer LEDs like XHP70 so you know.

[@LumenChaser]

AdventureSportFlashlights thanks, I’ll try cutting it off, if that goes bad I’m planning on doing this upgrade anyways

[@LumenChaser]

AdventureSportFlashlights my driver is 20mm what do you recommend as a 20mm driver for this led you used in the video

[@FreakzRitual]

Omg wish I knew how to mod my lights i would just buy hosts and make them better great video

[@Lumencraft-]

You can do it bro. You've already got the most important thing. The passion for the hobby.

[@YOUTUBEISRANBYRETARDS]

The only real thing you have too learn is basic understanding of voltage and polarities and how to solder properly. The rest over time will get easier.

[@averagerider92]

@@KZbinISRANBYRETARDS do we have to know amperage? I see some mcpcb board have higher amperage like 6amps but I suspect I need to consider using wiring that can support 6amps when making driver leads as well as considering this in electronics (tail caps, buttons etc)?

[@joeee60]

Is this pretty much the same as the Astrolux C8?

[@Lumencraft-]

Yes, it's very similar. The A6 driver used in the Astrolux is going to have slightly more perfect looking PWM in low modes, but a reduced current in high modes. Originally those drivers were very good (designed by BLF members). I bought some of them a while back though and found they started using some really cheap components or something that caused resistance to be high. On maximum power I was averaging only about 3.5 amps vs 4.5-5 ish from the regular mosfet using what ever LED was the hot button at the time. I have never had one of the pre assembled lights so I can't say for sure what current you'd see from it (maybe better components are used). Here is a fairly recent review of it where I noticed there is also a step down timer incorporated in it. budgetlightforum.com/node/57800

[@g.b.8291]

Hi Matt, I've wanted to tell you this for a long long time, I'm sorry I didn't loan you my HL MT03, I just didn't know who you were, I do know who you are Now... Hope you can forgive me, You are the best.. Keep up the great work, you inspire many.

[@Lumencraft-]

No worries at all. I forgot all about that. Besides no is always a perfectly acceptable response to a situation your unsure of. Sorry if my request made you feel at all uneasy :)

[@gary1412]

would it be possible to make it a floody light?

[@Lumencraft-]

Hi Gary. Yes, it's possible. If I were going to use this host to make a flooder I would probly put multiple LEDs with an optic in it. I suppose the easiest way to get a super flood beam would be to pull the reflector out and just run it as a mule.

[@lakasund]

Great rewiev Mat. I put aA6 driver used in the Astrolux, in the c8 host and and put a orange peel reflector in it.( drill the hole upp til 9mm its fits.) its get little more flood than.

[@phenomenalanomaly8469]

What's the benefit of the 42mm. lens

[@Lumencraft-]

The glass lens that this comes with is just standard type glass. You can get one that has an anti reflective coating on it that will allow more light to pass through it. This will only gain you a few percent though.

[@tiendaforense]

this guy is the Einstein of flashlights.

[@kareemkareem9305]

Hi sir I need torch light u seles I'm interesting 1pics ok

[@xsauce3858]

How much Watt it pull from the battery ?

[@xsauce3858]

+AdventureSportFlashlights

[@backup4ever]

that's a crazy difference.

[@JasonWW2000]

backup41 Yeah, I've never seen a C8 with such a poor beam like the one on the right. That must be a really low quality light. My Convoy C8 looks like the beam on the left, just not as bright.

[@aminkhashm]

backup41 i have seen c8 with t6 xml, they are not really bright as xpl hi or xml2 that i know.

[@JasonWW2000]

Amin Momtaheni Of course not. the xml T6 is a much older design and max output is about 800 lumen. It just can't handle very much current or heat like the newer LEDs can.

[@aminkhashm]

JasonWW2000 :)?!!

[@dragster100]

I started as a flashaholic since 2011 and during that time all the C8's in the market were using XM-L T6 with aluminum board (with dielectric layer), and it was considered quite a performer at that time. Things have gone a long way and I have witness how far the technology and hobbyist's knowledge have improved over the time!

[@GMoney-ks9up]

Dudes the best.. hahaha.. flashlight or not but, very informative no doubt.. Now Im not so impressed with my Klarus G15 ...

[@jamespalmer9556]

Do you not ever use flux?

[@Lumencraft-]

I do. On most things. Especially bare wire. If my leads and solder pads are already well tinned I don't.

[@djkoti74]

Doing a C8 with XHP35 with a 1.5 amp single cell driver this weekend. Should be significantly brighter and throwier than an XPL hi but we'll see :)

[@Lumencraft-]

Sweet! What are you gong to use for the driver?

[@djkoti74]

"H2-C-22mm-1_5A-1-or-2-cell-5-Mode-Boost-Driver"

[@Lumencraft-]

Cool. I hadn't seen that driver before. It may be hard to get into a C8 though. Convoys take a 17mm board. I have seen some with a slot as large as 20mm, but the H2C driver I saw at KD was 22mm.

[@djkoti74]

You're right, my bad...I'm going to use a Yezl Y3 as a host. I just finished a C8 last night with an XPL hi and a FET driver from bangood and running a VTC6 cell it really is the king of budget throwers. BTW I found this emitter from Luminus, theres some minor talk about it at BLF but not much really. It will cost around $100 but look at the specs - 5500 lumens at 27 amps from an XPL die size emitter area (3mmx3mm) Any ideas for a driver for this? This looks like a monster... www.luminus.com/products/CFT-90.html

[@Alexandr-Pripyat]

9:02 oh this is Bigfoot right now, step on his feet

[@joeframo3347]

You sure you haven't had any encounters with aliens that you're not telling us

[@angelmanuel2990]

Where you trying to make a lightsaber

[@raigoshinken7957]

and now...show us how to build an arc reactor using a flash light

[@ericn4008]

Everyone likes the C8 but I think the C12 Is so much better

[@pgharaghani28]

I agree! I have had the c8 in the past and have had a c12 now for the last 3-4 years. I personally think the c12 is a much better host but I would love to get an opinion from Matt on this!

[@Leo-gt1bx]

I wish you would reply to comments that don't bring you money

[@niwachien]

Why does your head flop around when you talk? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@jamespalmer5407]

Damn i thought you was a scrub, an average joe utuber but it looks as though you know your shit good job