Comparing all my Convoy flashlights | Which is best for you?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

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[@TacticalBruce]

Hey Darren, I can't believe how affordable these torches are. I got a new torch i the mail today direct from Sofin, its only a little AA one but still a great torch and it was cheap too. I think I heard about this company from your channel. Anyway hope all is well, take care = )

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Hey Bruce, sofirn do some great value lights. I like them and Wurkkos as they also have charging ports and modern features on their lights. However the range of LEDs they use is quite averagea and usually SST40s. Convoy does many different kinds of LEDs but most their lights don't have charging ports or additional features so there is a trade off.

[@stefanwesterberg5319]

The Convoy S2+ is my favorite host! 👍 I have tinkered alot with these flashlights..

[@DarrenYeoYT]

They're amazing value... I have a few of them too.

[@matejblaha2237]

Do you know where to find info about the convoy flashlights company? I hear the name Simon mentioned in so many videos but not much else and I can't find anything about the conpany

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Check on budgetlightforum.com - Convoy's been around for ages.. since I was in my teens I think.

[@jonathanv9587]

I have a C8+ with the Osram KB CSLNM1.14 blue LED. Fun light. On humid nights especially, the be beam is super visible. It’s like a light saber. Completely impracticable-but fun. My kids are always running off with it. Only wish it could take a 21700 battery.

[@jonskitch8082]

Nice light gives L21b run for its money!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Yeah it's amazing how well you can see the blue/green in the night. I have an Ledlenser p6 core QC that is basically a low lumen version!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I know this may seem splurge-y, but why not buy an M21A in the same configuration?

[@jonathanv9587]

@@DinnerForkTongue Looking back, that’s what I should have purchased (same blue emitter).

[@Cuccos19]

Easy access to the internals not only for tinkering, but also good for the environment: with a little manual skills you can replace a broken part, and don't have to throw away an anyway fine product. Maybe other larger manufacturers gives longer bigger warranties (2-5-10 years), but a bit of a headache if you don't have retailer in your country. We have some for in Hungary (Olight, Nitecore, Fenix, Maglite for sure) but not for all. Yes, I know ordering just a replacement glass or switch half way around the globe is not the most environment friendlier act. That's why I ordered all together everything with my, for my S2+ for example. Almost everything what was on stock (switch, rubber button, all types of O-rings, spare glasses, diffuser, carry sheet, etc). If something breaks, I'll fix it.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Totally, the DIY aspect and how easy it is to modify/fix Convoy light makes them a great option. Nothing is glued in and you don't need special tools to open them up. Some of the other big brands have long warranty periods though.

[@kidsh7895]

4:05 I looked for the 2k lumen config on the m21b, but I can't find out which one it is, can someone help me please

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Check here: convoylight.com/products/convoy-m21b-21700-flashlight it's under CULPM1.TG

[@polymathematics5837]

That L8 beam is crazy intense! I liked the M21B you showed, with the white emitter best for an EDC. I have the M21B with a SFT40 emitter and like it quite a bit. I got lucky, my SFT40 lacks the green tint seen in some batches and throws a clean white beam. My favorite Convoy for a combination of throw, spill, runtime, beam intensity and weight is the M21G with a 70.3 Hi emitter. It's not pocketable but it the flashlight I'd keep if I could only have one. Thanks for the nice Convoy comparison Darren!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Hey Gus, yeah the L8 is over the top haha. Not much from here apart from a 4x sbt90.2 configuration. Yeah I agree, the M21B has enough material for heatsinking and also pocketable. Have to check out the M21G. I just got an M21F in the mail with CULPM1. Similar performance to the M21B but I need to try it with another cell as I think it should throw further!

[@polymathematics5837]

@@DarrenYeoYT Hi Darren! You won't be sorry with the M21G. I liked it so much, I ordered two more (for a total of three). The first with an XHP 70.3 Hi 6500K, the second with a GT FC40 4500K and one more with a XHP 70.3 Hi 4000K emitter. Don't get me wrong, if Convoy could improve a few things on this light, I'd give it a 10/10 rating. For now, I'd give it a 8.5/10 rating. Here's what I recommend to Simon going forward for improvements for version 2. Adding a battery power indicator led, adding in-battery USB-C charging, and a small design update on the bezel to eliminate the ring artifact that can be seen outside the spill area. I painted the sloped surface of the stainless steel bezel with matt black paint, which eliminated the intensity of the ring artifact by 95% which made me pretty happy.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

You have three of them!? I had a look and they are a bit large for my liking but you'd get a hell of a lot longer runtime. I ordered two smaller lights, an S21B and S2+ with PM1. Think those are great value and would make good review videos too. I notice Convoy don't put charging ports on most their lights, especially smaller ones. And when then do, it's mostly side switch flashlights. I'd like to see them do tactical switch lights with a charging port. I heard it has something to do with the regulation/driver as well. In that ones without charging port can hold brightness for longer and draw more amps.

[@polymathematics5837]

​@@DarrenYeoYT Sounds interesting Darren! If you review the lights I promise to give it a thumbs up! 👍

[@DinnerForkTongue]

One thing to note, AR coating on the lenses raises the DUV of the beam and can make even a good LED seem greenish or yellowish.

[@zGJungle]

Hi, I have the same Convoy S2+ you have in this video, I love the warm light, but I'm not a fan of the spot in the center of the beam, is there an emitter that gives that floody warm beam but with out the hot spot ? Thank you.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Large emitters like the XHP 70.3 paired with a small reflector accomplish that - mostly flood. I also have the Convoy M21H with a diffused TIR lens that also produces mostly flood. Might be able to find warm tints of these LEDS though they mostly come in neutral/cool white.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Have also been checking out the Nichia 719a too.

[@budgetlightph7814]

If you want the hotspot to disappear, pick a beaded TIR with 45° or higher. It will produce an even and wide beam. TIR lens have been my favorite for a long time now.

[@marlonsalugao6272]

Hello... Can you give me a suggestion or maybe your personal choice ( all rounder ) of convoy tactical FL , for edc use with a very good spill and throw TIA

[@DarrenYeoYT]

My favourite is the M2 or M21B. Get one with the SFT40 for a great spill + throw combo.

[@marlonsalugao6272]

@@DarrenYeoYT Thank you very much

[@minman2546]

Hey @DarrenYeoYT, you have a nice collection and it would be cool to know what heads/tubes are inter-compatible between convoy models of similar cell size.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Thanks for the idea! Many of the same battery type are interchangeable.

[@EhvulPlays]

Do you have a video where you explain how to change thru the 12 modes. I want my S8 to have just the moonlight and turbo modes, but i can never figure out how to change it properly.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

I just made a video for you. I'm uploading to channel now. Maybe check back in half an hour.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGSue3d3brplaNU

[@EhvulPlays]

@@DarrenYeoYT you are the best, thank you man!

[@universalrebel503]

Hey do you know if it's possible to put the sbt90.2 into a L21b host?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

I don't think it'd be easy... I'm no expert but believe you need a 20A driver and also some modifications to the heatsink, reflector diameter at the base to accommodate the larger SBT90.2 The host is also smaller and less effective at dissipating the heat. In my L8, it get HOT

[@Lone-Rider-d8w]

I remove the reflector from my c8 when camping for a really wide beam this makes it an Awesome all round light I find 😁

[@DarrenYeoYT]

That's a good idea man. I hate getting dust on the reflector though haha

[@Lone-Rider-d8w]

@@DarrenYeoYT Yeah Man, I Know What You Mean ❤️ I Get Annoyed With Dust On My Reading Glasses While My C8 Throws a 4 Metre Circumference 😉😁

[@rc-cleo]

i wish to see your review convoy 4x18A SBT 90.2

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Maybe one day. I'm not so interested as I already have the L8 which throws further. :)

[@nighthawkflyer]

I like the convoy S2 Plus SST 40 , all what you need.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

True, though tell that to someone like me with 40 flashlights haha

[@nighthawkflyer]

@@DarrenYeoYT I understand, I'm on that way. With about 25 flashlights I think this is the medium state. In my experience the extremely expensive flashlights are better but the difference isn't worth so much more money. Convoy, Sofirn,Wurkkos build good quality flashlights today.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

@@nighthawkflyer the quality of the budget lights have improved greatly, compared to those old "whatever"fire lights. I have some expensive lights too but end of the day I think unless they have significant quality and performance improvement in a few different areas.. many of the budget brands offer similar performance for less $

[@mikafoxx2717]

​@@DarrenYeoYT Thanks to you guys I just ordered 6 convoys! I'm a CRI and tint crazy so I got a triple 219b sw45 and the rest are s2+ 519A's in varying colour temps. Some will become gifts, gonna dedome at least one for the pink warm tones. Maybe the 5700 since it's probably too cold for my liking.

[@yudhiewibowo8111]

Any recommendation for the longest running Convoy in constant Med mode? Will be used for all-night cycling

[@DarrenYeoYT]

In a smaller 18650 light, you'd want to ask Simon to put a buck driver in one of them for better efficiency. Otherwise, you can pick something like the 3X21A for lots of output and runtime.

[@ksajak]

Do you like the buck driver or linear better? In the s2+ since that's what I'll be getting. I chose linear not realizing what buck was so I emailed Simon at convoy to change it to the buck driver for me. Hopefully he can. Haven't tried that yet so it would be nice to have and try. We shall see! Thanks for the great video as usual!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

The buck driver is apparently more efficient. So less heat, longer runtime. Linear apparently uses a resistor to burn off the excess voltage but it's inefficient with more than one cell. I'd have to run proper tests to figure out which is 'better' but I don't have proper equipment for that.

[@jonskitch8082]

Thanks for sharing, My choice would be M2 and C8+ in Black. I have the following lights in the (only been watching your channel recently) collection: L21b - SFT40 C8+ - NM1 Sofirn IF22A My next light M2 I am also looking at Manta ray 8.2 with osparam LED, have you had any experience with this?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

M2 is the best trade off between throw and size. I just got the L21b with green cslpm1.f1 by the way. I haven't hear about the Mantaray but it seems similar to a bunch of convoy offerings. Any reason you want that light?

[@jonskitch8082]

@@DarrenYeoYT The cooling system is far superior to the rest (can run on high/turbo mode for longer) and has the best reflector in the business. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXbi2inoqeobdE

[@jonskitch8082]

@@DarrenYeoYT kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXbi2inoqeobdE

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Wow, I might get one. Excellent sustained lumens. The PM1 doesn't produce much heat either. Thanks for sharing man.

[@mjgrobbelaar6866]

I've got a C8+,anyone have the specs on the light? Lumens,candela,throw,run time,etc

[@schiaucugabriel6202]

Hello, I become addicted to your chanell. Now I am looking for a search and rescue flashlight to be used in mountains rescue missions. It need to be a thrower without blinding miself with a too bright overspill. What could you recommend me as flashlight model and led type? Thanks!

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Do you mean a convoy flashlight? If you need a larger search and rescue light, maybe the convoy 3x21D - it has an sbt90.2 in it. Throws over a kilometre and decent runtime with multiple cells.

[@schiaucugabriel6202]

@@DarrenYeoYT Thank you, I look your video right now. I look to L7 too.

[@schiaucugabriel6202]

@@DarrenYeoYT this is for sure the absolute thrower. But what about a pocket thrower? I was thinking about M21b with SFT 40 as compact alternative.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

I would get that round die LED in the M21B. I forgot the name suddenly but it's on the convoy site...​@@schiaucugabriel6202

[@schiaucugabriel6202]

Thanks alot!

[@zaadrianavillanueva8485]

How to order this flashlight ?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

convoy.aliexpress.com/store/330416

[@AverageReviewsYT]

1:43 Matt smith would gladly disagree with that finish being anymore durable than powdered sugar stuck to it lol.. he had a brand new light he carried with another light and it’s chipped the coating off.. it’s junk 😊

[@DarrenYeoYT]

After using the C8+ for some time now, I can confirm that the coating does wear off quite easily if you drop it, or hit it with another light. My S2+ MAO is still going strong though. I wonder if they just need to leave it for longer in the process for a thicker coat.

[@AverageReviewsYT]

@@DarrenYeoYT when it comes to anodizatiom I have noticed like olight, fenix vs budget brands…. Theres a huge difference in the durability. I have a lot of high end brands and a lot of budget brands, and the finish is consistent durability wise at a given price point.. kinda annoying

[@StratmanII]

Crikey, these can't be your entire collection of Convoy torches! Neither the M1 nor the S8 or S6 is mentioned! 😲🔦🔦 Here's wishing you Gong Xi Fa Cai, mate! Happy Chinese New Year and stay safe! ☺🐍2⃣0⃣2⃣5⃣👲

[@DarrenYeoYT]

Hey happy Chinese New Year bro! I think I need to do an updated comparison video...

[@StratmanII]

@@DarrenYeoYT No dramas, mate. Chinese New Year's your gig! I'm not a descendant of the Chinese mob, so I steer clear of the Spring Festival. But, I'm stoked about my brand new Sofirn SR12 and my second Wurkkos FC12, aye. These torches are bloody ripper, and the SR12 left me gobsmacked with its 6000K temperature SFT-25R. It's not as stark white as the FC12, but definitely doesn't have the warmish glow of the Wurkkos TD03's 5000K SFT-40. 😊

[@DarrenYeoYT]

What's your background if you don't mind me asking? I think you'll hit 100 flashlights by the end of this year at this rate 😂

[@StratmanII]

@@DarrenYeoYT I hope to stop before I hit the 40 flashlight mark and have just six more to go. My torch collection now stands at 34, including the forthcoming 6500k TS22 which I got with a heavy discount from Wurkkos. Can't pass up a good deal! 🔦😊❤️ My "background"? I wouldn't mind sharing that with you, but not on KZbin mate. I'm just a retired senior citizen who's never been to 'Straya but has cousins with PR status who raised their children in Perth and Melbourne. 🌏🇦🇺🦘

[@kauaikit]

Ok....loose all those Convoys in your collection, and just get the new(er) Convoy 3x21c! It will do it ALL! 🙂

[@DarrenYeoYT]

That's one giant flashlight 😂 I have an Imalent MR90 that makes 52,000 lumens but I never use the thing.

[@kauaikit]

@@DarrenYeoYT -But....but, the COST of the Imalent in comparison! Shhhhh Besides, I carry the Convoy 3x21c in moon-light for most activities, and it's a simple double tap gives me TURBO! BTY, I have 9 Convoys in the collection! Shhhhhhh