Unattractive judo

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Judo and stuff

Judo and stuff

8 жыл бұрын

Hurting, humiliating and disrespecting opponents on the mat that discredit the sport

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@hayek218
@hayek218 4 жыл бұрын
Disrespectful conducts should disqualify the competitor immediately in the match and for a certain period after video checks by IJF.
@Randall_Lim
@Randall_Lim 5 жыл бұрын
Judo competition rules should adopt the Kendo competition rules of not outwardly showing any sign of victory over or disrespect to one's opponent.
@lilosnitch3247
@lilosnitch3247 4 жыл бұрын
I remembered doing this in bjj where i would celebrate a bit when i tapped someone out.Got pulled to the side by my coach and got a lecture
@HantonSacu
@HantonSacu 3 жыл бұрын
ono does this
@Randall_Lim
@Randall_Lim 3 жыл бұрын
Who is Ono??
@HantonSacu
@HantonSacu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Randall_Lim ono shohei, currently considered pond for pound greatest judoka
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'd you have to enforce it, it's pointless. What makes the respect in judo so amazing is that you don't technically have to be respectful, yet 90% of judoka do anyway, that's what it's all about.
@alligator2213
@alligator2213 3 жыл бұрын
This is depressing. I've been punched in the face at judo but it was never on purpose and the guy felt bad too.
@andrewcampbell2238
@andrewcampbell2238 3 жыл бұрын
they shouldn't let these guys compete if they have a history of disrespect in a sport and culture centred around respect. Theres always someone better out there and if there isn't, those people don't act like this
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 4 жыл бұрын
this is what happens when you turn a martial art into sport. Jigoro Kano never wanted this.
@spectrealangritch
@spectrealangritch 3 жыл бұрын
You have a few poor sports on video, and that spoils the entire thing for you? The amount of practitioners and people exposed to Judo because it’s a sport is so much higher than it would have ever been. Not to mention in martial arts where you dont spar and complete, you might as well be learning dance moves.
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 3 жыл бұрын
@@spectrealangritch people spar in martial arts but dont necessarily have to compete.
@vasco13100
@vasco13100 3 жыл бұрын
Judo is not a Martial arts!
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 3 жыл бұрын
@@vasco13100 sure buddy
@anismerouani4322
@anismerouani4322 3 жыл бұрын
@@spectrealangritch 3يثهلطو د ا لكوكوية 0
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 5 жыл бұрын
I got DQ'd as an orange belt when my opponent poked me in the eye to try to break a pin. I got the osaekomi, then nearly bit off a finger because he kept trying to eye-poke me again and again during the hold down. He was eliminated from the tourney and I got DQ'd since the blood made it hard to claim it was an accident. After another promotion, I stopped retaliating in a way that would get me DQ'd, instead taking the win and laughing at opponents that cheated and still lost. Guess Judo taught me something. ;)
@tl8211
@tl8211 8 ай бұрын
Eye-poking is low low behavior. People can lose their vision due to that, for example, Yuki Nakai.
@barba5209
@barba5209 7 ай бұрын
What wrong did basile do to you, that was a wonderful ippon
@_migs._.19
@_migs._.19 4 жыл бұрын
Sensei Kreese would be so proud to these guys.
@younesismail1072
@younesismail1072 3 жыл бұрын
Cobra kai n
@j.camolezi2233
@j.camolezi2233 3 жыл бұрын
Kkkkkkkk
@ghermansky1439
@ghermansky1439 5 жыл бұрын
As somebody who trained judo for all my life, cant agree more
@suciodan5817
@suciodan5817 2 жыл бұрын
Olympics is killing judo...
@jacksecomb4916
@jacksecomb4916 3 жыл бұрын
That first armbar was disgusting like what is the point of purposely leaving a mid-long term injury on your opponent when it can be avoided easily?
@bolatepung
@bolatepung 2 жыл бұрын
They know how to tackle, but they miss the essence of judo.
@chihabhsn7274
@chihabhsn7274 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They're thinking shallow 😢
@yayeet1746
@yayeet1746 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with screaming with excitement just as long as you don't direct your celebration at your opponents face you should be fine.
@antoniopintus8568
@antoniopintus8568 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hansoku make for all, no mercy! Respect of the opponent is basic culture for a judoka. Judo does not need clowns
@uncle_martin1131
@uncle_martin1131 2 жыл бұрын
As someone else said, disrespectful conducts should be sanctioned with a DQ. But I want to be more extreme. Disrespectful conducts are done consciously and on purpose, for me they should be punished with a DQ and a permanent ban from any judo competition...there should be no place for this kind of behavior. But in all honesty the Basile part wasn't that disrespectful
@jujitusuka
@jujitusuka 2 жыл бұрын
It’s against everything Judo / martial arts stands for, they, their coaches and people who first introduced or trained them as children should hang their heads in shame. Disrespectful behaviour like these ‘people’ are showing should result in the match being forfeited.
@emildegas4213
@emildegas4213 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, well said.
@tamarkapanadze3485
@tamarkapanadze3485 8 ай бұрын
Khan-Magomedov was "famous" with such disrespectful behavior. Once he also gave head-butt to Giorgi Zantaraia and got disqualification because of that.
@JDG.RealEstate
@JDG.RealEstate 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the audio?
@ryanm1776
@ryanm1776 4 жыл бұрын
While this type of conduct is not admirable in Judo, I do find it interesting how rare this conduct is or how rare DQs are in Judo and yet common in BJJ. A quick search will prove my point. This is one of the only Judo videos like this compared to countless comparable ones in BJJ.
@bruva207
@bruva207 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be completely honest, in comparison to BJJ, judo isn't as popular and might attract less bad eggs than BJJ. Considering the popularity it gained due to MMA competitions and the Gracies destroying almost every fighter under the sun with it, I think people go into it with the wrong idea and end up doing things they shouldn't be it for UFC aspirations or merely frustration. Slams, heel hooks, not respecting tap outs and just being downright assholes give a bad name to the sport.
@ryanm1776
@ryanm1776 4 жыл бұрын
João Ribeiro I agree with part of your reply. I believe that because of the UFC and Gracies sensationalizing BJJ in mainstream, it has attracted a lot of individuals with poor attitudes that perhaps took it up for all the wrong reasons. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met some humble and tough BJJ practitioners that are good people and turned out to be great friends but I was always amazed how every school I visited had at least several bad eggs (you can tell who they are when you roll with them). The first statement you made about Judo not being as popular as BJJ is a complete fallacy. In fact the opposite is true, worldwide, Judo practitioners out number their BJJ counterparts many times over. Over 40,000,000 people practice Judo worldwide. www.ijf.org/news/show/judo-celebrates-the-planet I’ve yet to find a reputable BJJ reference (e.g. IBJJF) that even comes close to that. This makes the point I made in my original comment even more impressive.
@bruva207
@bruva207 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanm1776 I stand corrected. I'm speaking from a perspective of an MMA practitioner, and an ex judoca. I hardly ever hear talk about judo in sport circles, only around the Olympics I hear about my countrywoman Telma Monteiro and that's about it.
@clenryndayday
@clenryndayday 4 жыл бұрын
João Ribeiro even from an MMA stand point I’m sure you have heard of Ronda Rousey or even Kayla Harrison both Olympic medal winners in Judo turned Mma fighters. Judo is very popular it’s just not ranted about and worshipped like Bjj
@vittocrazi
@vittocrazi 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruva207 maybe you dont see as many judoka compared to BJJ because you are from the US, wich is pretty much the only country where Judo is obscure in comparison to BJJ
@Nefhith1337
@Nefhith1337 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 He won that combat, but still lost. So disrespectful.
@eliaskjrbo8142
@eliaskjrbo8142 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see what he did. Please explain.
@maxime1768
@maxime1768 2 жыл бұрын
@@eliaskjrbo8142 he didn’t shake hands with his opponent which is very disrespectful
@tl8211
@tl8211 8 ай бұрын
And why the hell did he do that? If there was some animosity, maybe I could understand (would still be low behavior deserving of punishment, but at least I would know why), but Georgia and Mongolia? Two top judo nations with no beef.
@tl8211
@tl8211 8 ай бұрын
@@maxime1768 I think they should DQ him just because if you can't even bother to shake hands with your opponent, you won't respect them on the mat either.
@helloworld4770
@helloworld4770 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get what's wrong in this one 1:45
@zakalbano5929
@zakalbano5929 3 жыл бұрын
excessive celebration maybe?
@jeanackle
@jeanackle 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the disrespect of pushing down on your fallen opponent (on the throat, it seems) while clearly not doing it for a pin or anything else conductive to any scoring.
@Rikimaru00
@Rikimaru00 3 жыл бұрын
When your opponent is falling, keeping on pushing down to the ground doesn't permit to free the energy. As the fallen opponent you will feel twice the effect of the throwing. Not illegal, just not the very best according to Judo lines and etiquette.
@epsilonalpha2430
@epsilonalpha2430 3 жыл бұрын
Rikimaru00 completely wrong, why answer if you don't know what you're talking about? It doesn't hurt pushing down that's not what's wrong with the the clip. What's wrong is he steps over his opponent. This shows great disrespect to your opponent and he should have instead walked around.
@merileopardisaksassa7030
@merileopardisaksassa7030 2 жыл бұрын
@@epsilonalpha2430 This. Never walk over your opponent like that, it is so rude.
@DocteurInfierno
@DocteurInfierno Ай бұрын
The rules say, for gold medal, both will have silver in this case, like we see here. For bronze medal, both will have 5e place. In semi-final, both will have 5e place. In Quart-final or repechage, both will have 7e place. So, double hansoku-make = double losers
@bombsweden7131
@bombsweden7131 2 жыл бұрын
The person who posted this is very smart and a good person
@florinbaiduc
@florinbaiduc 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why these weren't disqualified on the spot and also why the referees weren't corrected for missing to disqualify?
@michael1608
@michael1608 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you can point out which of these contests you know for certain had no consequences for the athletes involved?
@petermelb123
@petermelb123 Жыл бұрын
It's a combat sport, a few slaps ,words and some bad sportsmanship shouldn't get judo fans upset
@chocomojo9552
@chocomojo9552 Жыл бұрын
Dishonor should be disqualifying
@CleanJUDO
@CleanJUDO Жыл бұрын
How was fabio basille disrespectful
@yourstruly6520
@yourstruly6520 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea, i guess they are mad at the scream? but i dont think thats disrespectful
@kyoyoberry
@kyoyoberry 4 жыл бұрын
Unacceptable
@thebanana7875
@thebanana7875 5 жыл бұрын
cool, first dude in white is MATA an awesome judoka that trained at same dojo i did
@lorenzoboscarino3304
@lorenzoboscarino3304 9 ай бұрын
What did basile do? He screamed, yes, but nothing disrespectfull in my opinion
@JD99
@JD99 2 жыл бұрын
0:22 Did he break his arm?
@Guillute
@Guillute 4 жыл бұрын
I dont remember what year it was the olympics where i've seen 2 judo guys totally out of shape. They were both on the ground tired unable to get up. People were laughting at them. I'm trying to find that fight
@stasiabv6
@stasiabv6 4 жыл бұрын
Did you found it? I really wanna see this. 😅
@j.camolezi2233
@j.camolezi2233 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand what Magomedov did with Zantaraia
@bruva207
@bruva207 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Telma Monteiro would show up and teach these boys
@rubenroque9211
@rubenroque9211 Жыл бұрын
In the field of Martial Arts you should be humble to your opponent regardless if you win or lose.
@JosePerez-ee8vw
@JosePerez-ee8vw 3 жыл бұрын
That's messed up, it will spread slowly if it's not stopped. It will kill the sport as we know it. Taking back to where it came from war like aspects.
@eltoq8407
@eltoq8407 5 жыл бұрын
German girl only paid back at first instance , and in the second occasion she’s a victim. Same with Khan-magomedov - Zantaraya episode, it was Zantaraya’s fault.
@Uwequickkill
@Uwequickkill 5 жыл бұрын
that is no reason to slap back
@carloseduardocadu6679
@carloseduardocadu6679 3 жыл бұрын
If you do it all the time one day you'll find someone like you....
@Fxckyall
@Fxckyall 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe japan wrestler didnt slapped her on purpose
@vittocrazi
@vittocrazi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fxckyall yes. looked like a collar grip gone bad. ive punched some people because of that, and gotten hit as well
@olgamitsionis8387
@olgamitsionis8387 4 жыл бұрын
This guys has to disqualified for the rest of their life..... OSU
@user-jv3jm1ek8e
@user-jv3jm1ek8e 3 жыл бұрын
პაპინაშვილების გვარს რად არცხვენ ვინ გასწავლა მასეთი უწესობა? ასეთ უწესოებს როგორ უნდა შეემატო?
@ednamode8976
@ednamode8976 2 жыл бұрын
Amiran Papinashvili is really good judoka maybe that's why Papinashvili never won at Olympics and World Championships
@MarkII-fj1sw
@MarkII-fj1sw 4 жыл бұрын
No 柔道 this is judo
@blipblop9094
@blipblop9094 2 жыл бұрын
this attitude should all be banned from all martial arts competition.
@americantacticalraccoon1858
@americantacticalraccoon1858 5 жыл бұрын
Judo for life
@egorsilovs156
@egorsilovs156 4 жыл бұрын
People that do this stuff should go to MMA or boxing, they do not have a place in Judo.
@user-lq9hf2es2u
@user-lq9hf2es2u 8 ай бұрын
柔道選手が必ずしも柔道家とは限らない
@Kaihku
@Kaihku 2 жыл бұрын
Hansoku-make
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 Жыл бұрын
There's a Russian Culture that leads to that sort of thing
@Justice_eagle15
@Justice_eagle15 3 жыл бұрын
Strike First Strike Hard No Mercy Oh wait sorry wrong video...
@solidsnake5398
@solidsnake5398 2 жыл бұрын
Their sensei should punish them
@fizioterapevt
@fizioterapevt 2 жыл бұрын
Again Russians as most unbehaved.
@rodribestia
@rodribestia 4 жыл бұрын
Thats was a judokas? So harrasment
@somayemoosavi9926
@somayemoosavi9926 3 жыл бұрын
Little man in great position....in fortunately......jodu whiteout soil of Japanese jodu...
@CBM1979
@CBM1979 4 жыл бұрын
Anti Judo
@Handleunavailabl
@Handleunavailabl 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s because I come from wrestling but I don’t mind a little spice now and then
@carlosborges7688
@carlosborges7688 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only disrespectful one was the guy who refused to shake hands at the end, everything else was just competition attitude, well with the exception of the face slap lol.
@j.camolezi2233
@j.camolezi2233 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to see excelent athlets, but really bad judokas
@maxi.mlr_07
@maxi.mlr_07 2 ай бұрын
/Ballast👀
@eloplague7319
@eloplague7319 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh Basile didn't do anything wrong
@nickybutt9733
@nickybutt9733 Жыл бұрын
Russians, surprise..
@jabhutt1013
@jabhutt1013 3 жыл бұрын
russians mostly...and their countries:) well, its probably that life already put them in place by that very fact:))
@gazlamesai
@gazlamesai 3 жыл бұрын
They are Azerbaijani actually not Russian
@yuu0294
@yuu0294 3 жыл бұрын
Their faces doesn't looks slav enough
@jabhutt1013
@jabhutt1013 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuu0294 Russia is a Federation, some asians are included.
@piotre_ita
@piotre_ita 2 жыл бұрын
It Is terrible (not the video)
@estogaza5827
@estogaza5827 2 жыл бұрын
All these people crying, it's called competition. Grow up. These are men. It's not a tea party. Go take Akido or take up sewing if you want to be a grandma.
@yasushikawamura2946
@yasushikawamura2946 2 жыл бұрын
馬鹿につける薬もない
@estogaza5827
@estogaza5827 2 жыл бұрын
@@yasushikawamura2946 日本人が負けていたので、彼らは脚の攻撃を取り除いた。恥ずべき。
@MrSaggywaffles
@MrSaggywaffles 4 жыл бұрын
It’s men playing a contact sport, what do you expect? Respect is a plus but you can’t always expect it when people are fighting for dominance to show who’s the best. People just get in the moment as well and get heated.
@MrSaggywaffles
@MrSaggywaffles 4 жыл бұрын
Be Water Friend agreed
@clenryndayday
@clenryndayday 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. One of Judo’s main foundations is the principle of respect. If they can’t have respect for the person that gave them the opportunity to prove their dominance then they shouldn’t be competing.
@vittocrazi
@vittocrazi 3 жыл бұрын
you are right. they are men, not children. so they should know how to behave.
@Messiahs
@Messiahs 4 жыл бұрын
So ashamed of the german woman
@lhommepeignoir5057
@lhommepeignoir5057 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not against this at all. You want to make things interesting for the crowd, there's nothing better than adding a good villain/antihero to their narrative. Bowing and shaking hands might be the most noble attitude, but it gets boring when everybody's doing it *all the time* ... Dickishness is the spice of sports, really.
@mysty0
@mysty0 5 жыл бұрын
Judo Players have some real and serious insecurities issues constantly trying to palm themselves off as Real Fighters, its like a step above Aikido and a very small step at that lol
@matthewadams2192
@matthewadams2192 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something an Aikido practitioner would say..... you can’t broad-brush every judoka as having issues just because of a 2+ minute video.
@mysty0
@mysty0 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewadams2192 lmao, why would I diss Aikido as being the lowest of the low if I was an Aikidoka? Let me help you out, just like Aikido only works on compliant people the same is true of Judo. Take somebody who has never done Judo to a Judo Club and the club tells them they need to stop being stiff, they are too rigid and relax a little and then they can do their moves lol. Judo doesnt work in the real world, its a joke and Judoka know this and have serious insecurity issues they hide behind their aggression
@Tatsuhiko94
@Tatsuhiko94 5 жыл бұрын
@@mysty0 If that's true, then why are there so many takedowns in MMA? Telling the uke to relax and not be stiff is for theeir safety, not the tori's. I can throw all day long whether you're stiff or not. The tori just needs to make sure they actually use kuzushi.
@mysty0
@mysty0 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tatsuhiko94 lmao, throw whether stiff or not huh. Yea thats why the local club Yodan busted his back trying to throw my nephew haha. And you think any time two people fall over in MMA its Judo? Bahaha
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 5 жыл бұрын
@@mysty0 I suspect you've never done Judo... at least not in a half-competent club. If Judo wasn't effective Rhonda Rousey wouldn't have been so dominant for so long in the UFC. Her entire game revolved around Judo with o-goshi, harai-goshi, various leg reaps, and the arm-bar. To claim that these techniques only work on a complying opponent is just bizarre. On top of all that - many techniques in Judo are also used in BJJ and folk wrestling, just under a different name, and in fact Judo used to be really similar to catch wrestling too before the new IJF rules banned single and double leg takedowns (but that's only the sport aspect of Judo anyway). You don't seem like the type of person that listens to reason or logic, so I don't expect you to change your mind or even do a session of Judo before you bash it, I just hope that other people reading this will realise that your opinion comes from a place of absolute ignorance rather than fact.
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