Hurting, humiliating and disrespecting opponents on the mat that discredit the sport
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@hayek2184 жыл бұрын
Disrespectful conducts should disqualify the competitor immediately in the match and for a certain period after video checks by IJF.
@Randall_Lim5 жыл бұрын
Judo competition rules should adopt the Kendo competition rules of not outwardly showing any sign of victory over or disrespect to one's opponent.
@lilosnitch32474 жыл бұрын
I remembered doing this in bjj where i would celebrate a bit when i tapped someone out.Got pulled to the side by my coach and got a lecture
@HantonSacu3 жыл бұрын
ono does this
@Randall_Lim3 жыл бұрын
Who is Ono??
@HantonSacu3 жыл бұрын
@@Randall_Lim ono shohei, currently considered pond for pound greatest judoka
@rhidiandavies19913 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'd you have to enforce it, it's pointless. What makes the respect in judo so amazing is that you don't technically have to be respectful, yet 90% of judoka do anyway, that's what it's all about.
@alligator22133 жыл бұрын
This is depressing. I've been punched in the face at judo but it was never on purpose and the guy felt bad too.
@andrewcampbell22383 жыл бұрын
they shouldn't let these guys compete if they have a history of disrespect in a sport and culture centred around respect. Theres always someone better out there and if there isn't, those people don't act like this
@peekaboojujitsoo5254 жыл бұрын
this is what happens when you turn a martial art into sport. Jigoro Kano never wanted this.
@spectrealangritch3 жыл бұрын
You have a few poor sports on video, and that spoils the entire thing for you? The amount of practitioners and people exposed to Judo because it’s a sport is so much higher than it would have ever been. Not to mention in martial arts where you dont spar and complete, you might as well be learning dance moves.
@peekaboojujitsoo5253 жыл бұрын
@@spectrealangritch people spar in martial arts but dont necessarily have to compete.
@vasco131003 жыл бұрын
Judo is not a Martial arts!
@peekaboojujitsoo5253 жыл бұрын
@@vasco13100 sure buddy
@anismerouani43223 жыл бұрын
@@spectrealangritch 3يثهلطو د ا لكوكوية 0
@BloodofPatriots5 жыл бұрын
I got DQ'd as an orange belt when my opponent poked me in the eye to try to break a pin. I got the osaekomi, then nearly bit off a finger because he kept trying to eye-poke me again and again during the hold down. He was eliminated from the tourney and I got DQ'd since the blood made it hard to claim it was an accident. After another promotion, I stopped retaliating in a way that would get me DQ'd, instead taking the win and laughing at opponents that cheated and still lost. Guess Judo taught me something. ;)
@tl82118 ай бұрын
Eye-poking is low low behavior. People can lose their vision due to that, for example, Yuki Nakai.
@barba52097 ай бұрын
What wrong did basile do to you, that was a wonderful ippon
@_migs._.194 жыл бұрын
Sensei Kreese would be so proud to these guys.
@younesismail10723 жыл бұрын
Cobra kai n
@j.camolezi22333 жыл бұрын
Kkkkkkkk
@ghermansky14395 жыл бұрын
As somebody who trained judo for all my life, cant agree more
@suciodan58172 жыл бұрын
Olympics is killing judo...
@jacksecomb49163 жыл бұрын
That first armbar was disgusting like what is the point of purposely leaving a mid-long term injury on your opponent when it can be avoided easily?
@bolatepung2 жыл бұрын
They know how to tackle, but they miss the essence of judo.
@chihabhsn7274 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! They're thinking shallow 😢
@yayeet17464 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with screaming with excitement just as long as you don't direct your celebration at your opponents face you should be fine.
@antoniopintus85682 жыл бұрын
Definitely hansoku make for all, no mercy! Respect of the opponent is basic culture for a judoka. Judo does not need clowns
@uncle_martin11312 жыл бұрын
As someone else said, disrespectful conducts should be sanctioned with a DQ. But I want to be more extreme. Disrespectful conducts are done consciously and on purpose, for me they should be punished with a DQ and a permanent ban from any judo competition...there should be no place for this kind of behavior. But in all honesty the Basile part wasn't that disrespectful
@jujitusuka2 жыл бұрын
It’s against everything Judo / martial arts stands for, they, their coaches and people who first introduced or trained them as children should hang their heads in shame. Disrespectful behaviour like these ‘people’ are showing should result in the match being forfeited.
@emildegas42132 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, well said.
@tamarkapanadze34858 ай бұрын
Khan-Magomedov was "famous" with such disrespectful behavior. Once he also gave head-butt to Giorgi Zantaraia and got disqualification because of that.
@JDG.RealEstate4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the audio?
@ryanm17764 жыл бұрын
While this type of conduct is not admirable in Judo, I do find it interesting how rare this conduct is or how rare DQs are in Judo and yet common in BJJ. A quick search will prove my point. This is one of the only Judo videos like this compared to countless comparable ones in BJJ.
@bruva2074 жыл бұрын
Well to be completely honest, in comparison to BJJ, judo isn't as popular and might attract less bad eggs than BJJ. Considering the popularity it gained due to MMA competitions and the Gracies destroying almost every fighter under the sun with it, I think people go into it with the wrong idea and end up doing things they shouldn't be it for UFC aspirations or merely frustration. Slams, heel hooks, not respecting tap outs and just being downright assholes give a bad name to the sport.
@ryanm17764 жыл бұрын
João Ribeiro I agree with part of your reply. I believe that because of the UFC and Gracies sensationalizing BJJ in mainstream, it has attracted a lot of individuals with poor attitudes that perhaps took it up for all the wrong reasons. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met some humble and tough BJJ practitioners that are good people and turned out to be great friends but I was always amazed how every school I visited had at least several bad eggs (you can tell who they are when you roll with them). The first statement you made about Judo not being as popular as BJJ is a complete fallacy. In fact the opposite is true, worldwide, Judo practitioners out number their BJJ counterparts many times over. Over 40,000,000 people practice Judo worldwide. www.ijf.org/news/show/judo-celebrates-the-planet I’ve yet to find a reputable BJJ reference (e.g. IBJJF) that even comes close to that. This makes the point I made in my original comment even more impressive.
@bruva2074 жыл бұрын
@@ryanm1776 I stand corrected. I'm speaking from a perspective of an MMA practitioner, and an ex judoca. I hardly ever hear talk about judo in sport circles, only around the Olympics I hear about my countrywoman Telma Monteiro and that's about it.
@clenryndayday4 жыл бұрын
João Ribeiro even from an MMA stand point I’m sure you have heard of Ronda Rousey or even Kayla Harrison both Olympic medal winners in Judo turned Mma fighters. Judo is very popular it’s just not ranted about and worshipped like Bjj
@vittocrazi3 жыл бұрын
@@bruva207 maybe you dont see as many judoka compared to BJJ because you are from the US, wich is pretty much the only country where Judo is obscure in comparison to BJJ
@Nefhith13372 жыл бұрын
2:10 He won that combat, but still lost. So disrespectful.
@eliaskjrbo81422 жыл бұрын
I don’t see what he did. Please explain.
@maxime17682 жыл бұрын
@@eliaskjrbo8142 he didn’t shake hands with his opponent which is very disrespectful
@tl82118 ай бұрын
And why the hell did he do that? If there was some animosity, maybe I could understand (would still be low behavior deserving of punishment, but at least I would know why), but Georgia and Mongolia? Two top judo nations with no beef.
@tl82118 ай бұрын
@@maxime1768 I think they should DQ him just because if you can't even bother to shake hands with your opponent, you won't respect them on the mat either.
@helloworld47703 жыл бұрын
I don't get what's wrong in this one 1:45
@zakalbano59293 жыл бұрын
excessive celebration maybe?
@jeanackle3 жыл бұрын
I guess the disrespect of pushing down on your fallen opponent (on the throat, it seems) while clearly not doing it for a pin or anything else conductive to any scoring.
@Rikimaru003 жыл бұрын
When your opponent is falling, keeping on pushing down to the ground doesn't permit to free the energy. As the fallen opponent you will feel twice the effect of the throwing. Not illegal, just not the very best according to Judo lines and etiquette.
@epsilonalpha24303 жыл бұрын
Rikimaru00 completely wrong, why answer if you don't know what you're talking about? It doesn't hurt pushing down that's not what's wrong with the the clip. What's wrong is he steps over his opponent. This shows great disrespect to your opponent and he should have instead walked around.
@merileopardisaksassa70302 жыл бұрын
@@epsilonalpha2430 This. Never walk over your opponent like that, it is so rude.
@DocteurInfiernoАй бұрын
The rules say, for gold medal, both will have silver in this case, like we see here. For bronze medal, both will have 5e place. In semi-final, both will have 5e place. In Quart-final or repechage, both will have 7e place. So, double hansoku-make = double losers
@bombsweden71312 жыл бұрын
The person who posted this is very smart and a good person
@florinbaiduc2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why these weren't disqualified on the spot and also why the referees weren't corrected for missing to disqualify?
@michael1608 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you can point out which of these contests you know for certain had no consequences for the athletes involved?
@petermelb123 Жыл бұрын
It's a combat sport, a few slaps ,words and some bad sportsmanship shouldn't get judo fans upset
@chocomojo9552 Жыл бұрын
Dishonor should be disqualifying
@CleanJUDO Жыл бұрын
How was fabio basille disrespectful
@yourstruly6520 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea, i guess they are mad at the scream? but i dont think thats disrespectful
@kyoyoberry4 жыл бұрын
Unacceptable
@thebanana78755 жыл бұрын
cool, first dude in white is MATA an awesome judoka that trained at same dojo i did
@lorenzoboscarino33049 ай бұрын
What did basile do? He screamed, yes, but nothing disrespectfull in my opinion
@JD992 жыл бұрын
0:22 Did he break his arm?
@Guillute4 жыл бұрын
I dont remember what year it was the olympics where i've seen 2 judo guys totally out of shape. They were both on the ground tired unable to get up. People were laughting at them. I'm trying to find that fight
@stasiabv64 жыл бұрын
Did you found it? I really wanna see this. 😅
@j.camolezi22333 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand what Magomedov did with Zantaraia
@bruva2074 жыл бұрын
I wish Telma Monteiro would show up and teach these boys
@rubenroque9211 Жыл бұрын
In the field of Martial Arts you should be humble to your opponent regardless if you win or lose.
@JosePerez-ee8vw3 жыл бұрын
That's messed up, it will spread slowly if it's not stopped. It will kill the sport as we know it. Taking back to where it came from war like aspects.
@eltoq84075 жыл бұрын
German girl only paid back at first instance , and in the second occasion she’s a victim. Same with Khan-magomedov - Zantaraya episode, it was Zantaraya’s fault.
@Uwequickkill5 жыл бұрын
that is no reason to slap back
@carloseduardocadu66793 жыл бұрын
If you do it all the time one day you'll find someone like you....
@Fxckyall2 жыл бұрын
Maybe japan wrestler didnt slapped her on purpose
@vittocrazi2 жыл бұрын
@@Fxckyall yes. looked like a collar grip gone bad. ive punched some people because of that, and gotten hit as well
@olgamitsionis83874 жыл бұрын
This guys has to disqualified for the rest of their life..... OSU
@user-jv3jm1ek8e3 жыл бұрын
პაპინაშვილების გვარს რად არცხვენ ვინ გასწავლა მასეთი უწესობა? ასეთ უწესოებს როგორ უნდა შეემატო?
@ednamode89762 жыл бұрын
Amiran Papinashvili is really good judoka maybe that's why Papinashvili never won at Olympics and World Championships
@MarkII-fj1sw4 жыл бұрын
No 柔道 this is judo
@blipblop90942 жыл бұрын
this attitude should all be banned from all martial arts competition.
@americantacticalraccoon18585 жыл бұрын
Judo for life
@egorsilovs1564 жыл бұрын
People that do this stuff should go to MMA or boxing, they do not have a place in Judo.
@user-lq9hf2es2u8 ай бұрын
柔道選手が必ずしも柔道家とは限らない
@Kaihku2 жыл бұрын
Hansoku-make
@Raul28153 Жыл бұрын
There's a Russian Culture that leads to that sort of thing
@Justice_eagle153 жыл бұрын
Strike First Strike Hard No Mercy Oh wait sorry wrong video...
@solidsnake53982 жыл бұрын
Their sensei should punish them
@fizioterapevt2 жыл бұрын
Again Russians as most unbehaved.
@rodribestia4 жыл бұрын
Thats was a judokas? So harrasment
@somayemoosavi99263 жыл бұрын
Little man in great position....in fortunately......jodu whiteout soil of Japanese jodu...
@CBM19794 жыл бұрын
Anti Judo
@Handleunavailabl3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s because I come from wrestling but I don’t mind a little spice now and then
@carlosborges76883 жыл бұрын
I think the only disrespectful one was the guy who refused to shake hands at the end, everything else was just competition attitude, well with the exception of the face slap lol.
@j.camolezi22333 жыл бұрын
It's hard to see excelent athlets, but really bad judokas
@maxi.mlr_072 ай бұрын
/Ballast👀
@eloplague73192 жыл бұрын
Bruh Basile didn't do anything wrong
@nickybutt9733 Жыл бұрын
Russians, surprise..
@jabhutt10133 жыл бұрын
russians mostly...and their countries:) well, its probably that life already put them in place by that very fact:))
@gazlamesai3 жыл бұрын
They are Azerbaijani actually not Russian
@yuu02943 жыл бұрын
Their faces doesn't looks slav enough
@jabhutt10133 жыл бұрын
@@yuu0294 Russia is a Federation, some asians are included.
@piotre_ita2 жыл бұрын
It Is terrible (not the video)
@estogaza58272 жыл бұрын
All these people crying, it's called competition. Grow up. These are men. It's not a tea party. Go take Akido or take up sewing if you want to be a grandma.
It’s men playing a contact sport, what do you expect? Respect is a plus but you can’t always expect it when people are fighting for dominance to show who’s the best. People just get in the moment as well and get heated.
@MrSaggywaffles4 жыл бұрын
Be Water Friend agreed
@clenryndayday4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. One of Judo’s main foundations is the principle of respect. If they can’t have respect for the person that gave them the opportunity to prove their dominance then they shouldn’t be competing.
@vittocrazi3 жыл бұрын
you are right. they are men, not children. so they should know how to behave.
@Messiahs4 жыл бұрын
So ashamed of the german woman
@lhommepeignoir50572 жыл бұрын
I'm not against this at all. You want to make things interesting for the crowd, there's nothing better than adding a good villain/antihero to their narrative. Bowing and shaking hands might be the most noble attitude, but it gets boring when everybody's doing it *all the time* ... Dickishness is the spice of sports, really.
@mysty05 жыл бұрын
Judo Players have some real and serious insecurities issues constantly trying to palm themselves off as Real Fighters, its like a step above Aikido and a very small step at that lol
@matthewadams21925 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something an Aikido practitioner would say..... you can’t broad-brush every judoka as having issues just because of a 2+ minute video.
@mysty05 жыл бұрын
@@matthewadams2192 lmao, why would I diss Aikido as being the lowest of the low if I was an Aikidoka? Let me help you out, just like Aikido only works on compliant people the same is true of Judo. Take somebody who has never done Judo to a Judo Club and the club tells them they need to stop being stiff, they are too rigid and relax a little and then they can do their moves lol. Judo doesnt work in the real world, its a joke and Judoka know this and have serious insecurity issues they hide behind their aggression
@Tatsuhiko945 жыл бұрын
@@mysty0 If that's true, then why are there so many takedowns in MMA? Telling the uke to relax and not be stiff is for theeir safety, not the tori's. I can throw all day long whether you're stiff or not. The tori just needs to make sure they actually use kuzushi.
@mysty05 жыл бұрын
@@Tatsuhiko94 lmao, throw whether stiff or not huh. Yea thats why the local club Yodan busted his back trying to throw my nephew haha. And you think any time two people fall over in MMA its Judo? Bahaha
@rhidiandavies19915 жыл бұрын
@@mysty0 I suspect you've never done Judo... at least not in a half-competent club. If Judo wasn't effective Rhonda Rousey wouldn't have been so dominant for so long in the UFC. Her entire game revolved around Judo with o-goshi, harai-goshi, various leg reaps, and the arm-bar. To claim that these techniques only work on a complying opponent is just bizarre. On top of all that - many techniques in Judo are also used in BJJ and folk wrestling, just under a different name, and in fact Judo used to be really similar to catch wrestling too before the new IJF rules banned single and double leg takedowns (but that's only the sport aspect of Judo anyway). You don't seem like the type of person that listens to reason or logic, so I don't expect you to change your mind or even do a session of Judo before you bash it, I just hope that other people reading this will realise that your opinion comes from a place of absolute ignorance rather than fact.