UNBOXING $80 DIMIR TERROR For Pauper! Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering

[@paperpauperplayer]

And just as an FYI, the deck costs $80 WITHOUT the Snuff Outs. Just keep that in mind!

[@_pio_]

Where can I get that specific spirit token that shows at 0:44? So cool!

[@_pio_]

Ok, I got it. It is from the artist Christi du Toit @christidutoit

[@paperpauperplayer]

It's so sick!

[@Koolumi]

I was looking forward you showing this deck! ^^

[@paperpauperplayer]

Nice! Well I hope you enjoyed! 😁

[@97thANON]

I don't run crawl from the cellar because I skip on mental notes. My only self-mill that I can't control is thought scour. My recursion is a single copy of mortuary mire

[@paperpauperplayer]

Ooh a single copy for Mortuary Mire is nice! So what do you put in instead of the Mental Notes? Just more interaction?

[@97thANON]

@@paperpauperplayer ah, just some considers that I wasn't gonna run. I cut mental notes for monee purposes primarily

[@paperpauperplayer]

Okay. Well then what are you playing in the original spot for consider then? Lol

[@97thANON]

@@paperpauperplayer my extra fumes and cast downs

[@rebelresource]

I am actually building a UB Surveil Deck that plays SUPER similar to this deck, but is more focused on control and card advantage than sort of cheating out 5/5s as fast as possible.

[@paperpauperplayer]

Nice! I wish surveil had more tools in Pauper. What's your wincon?

[@wazzup764]

I'm trying to get my girlfriend into magic so I'm starting her off with pauper. Thanks for the all the deck techs and explainations to help her better understand!

[@paperpauperplayer]

Of course! Hope she enjoys the content! What is she thinking of playing?

[@wazzup764]

@@paperpauperplayer I put together Dimir Terror and Affinity for her. We're LDR right now so we haven't got a chance to play but she's excited.

[@truk1lla679]

​@@wazzup764 Try spelltable my friend :D that way you can play paper magic with your girlfriend! Get yourselves some webcams (or use your phones) and you two can play

[@malachai1381]

I had thought about building a un terror list with 2/3 copies of serpentine curve, for an extra threat the reduced terror and anglers cost.

[@paperpauperplayer]

There actually are lists for that! Serp Curve is also a great deck! Ive primarily seen it in Blue Red though!

[@malachai1381]

@@paperpauperplayer namely I was gonna run 4 terror, 4 delver, 2/4 archeologist, and 2/3 or 4 curve, then a bunch of removal/permission. And ub generally better fits that plan IMI.

[@paperpauperplayer]

@@malachai1381 fair!

[@97thANON]

so my list is pretty different from yours. It's still in the works, so please leave your thoughts! our differences are (as mentioned previously) I run a single mire, but I also run two fumes. Its cycling makes it never a dead card. I skipped on edicts and Archaeologists, I run an extra Deep Analysis, I run the full playset of Cast Down, I run 3 fangs, I skipped on agony warp, as my 4 snuff out+four cast down is an ok removal suit. Ghastly demise and vendetaa are both things I'm considering playing, but at the moment I don't run the cards. I spent my money of snuff outs already, so I'd better use em. Vendetta is very iffy for me, cuz I'm already running 3 analysis and 4 snuff out. (again, why I'm running three fangs.) Because I'm playing Snuff, I'm running the snuff out landbase: four ice tunnel, four contaminated aquifier, one mire, three swamp, six island.

[@paperpauperplayer]

That list sounds sweet! It's why like I said, this deck is so much fun because it's so flexible in how you can build it! I do like the double flames and 4 of cast downs. I will say that Fajalli has felt fantastic. Early game big blocker that fuels your engine is really good!

[@97thANON]

@@paperpauperplayer yeah, I've experimented withit and it is pretty great. The list is so diverse, you can do it however you want. It's so darn fun

[@dcd1360]

I'd recommend an agony warp or two in the side board, it's specifically for guardian of the guildpact, but is great at setting up positive trades and dealing with fliers

[@paperpauperplayer]

@dcd1360 oh shit. I didn't even think about Guardian. Yeah thats huge

[@MaximumImpactGames]

Vendetta is just a budget replacement for Snuff Out, if you're already running Snuff out you absolutely do not need Vendetta.

[@Generic42]

Why only three Mental Note? Also you said it’s the exact same card as Thought Scour - the difference is that it can’t target an opponent

[@paperpauperplayer]

No specific reason. Would definitely do 4 if I wasn't running the Fallaji, but I thought it was an okay place to trim 1 for crawl from the cellar. I've also seen other lists only run 3, so it seemed like it wasn't a big deal. This is true, phrased incorrectly, I meant in the sense of its application in this deck. When it comes to its purpose, both it and thoughtscour are only in the deck for self mill purposes, making them the same. That's what I meant. But you are correct!

[@SomewhereInMiddleEarth]

This and Rakdos Madness are my favorite decks. Truth is i sometimes happen to mill my Anglers and Terrors and i needed something to return them to hand. Thank you for Crawl from the Cellar. I will use it. One small thing i would like to add for the overall video, and i say it with all my love for the channel, is that it is a little awkward or weird (at least for me) to see you on the little camera on the right while your face is down looking at the cards and never look up. I think i would like to see you looking up from time to time. Or maybe that's just me. lol 😅 Anyways, thank you for the video, i love this deck and the channel! See on the next one!

[@paperpauperplayer]

Yeah its the worst feeling, and I dont understand how people play this deck without a copy of it! That's completely fair! I'm just staring at the cards when I'm talking lol. I'm also primarily always watching to make sure I'm holding the card directly in the center because I'm Italian, and I move a lot when I'm talking. Old deck tech videos, the cards would be half way cut off, so it's honestly for quality check. But! I looked at the camera way more in this video when I was talking about Snuff Outs! Haha Thank you so much for that, friend! 💛

[@SomewhereInMiddleEarth]

@@paperpauperplayer Yes, i understand your reasoning, i just wanted to tell my mind and maybe give a friendly advice! 🙂 Oh you are from Italy! We are neighbours. I am from Greece!

[@paperpauperplayer]

@SomewhereInMiddleEarth I appreciate it, haha 💛🙏 Well..I live in the United States.. I'm just Italian 🤣 but that's awesome that you're from Greece! I've always wanted to visit there!

[@rodadordedadinho]

Nobody: PPP parents: Paper Pauper Player indeed is a great name...

[@paperpauperplayer]

My mom was quite the genius

[@garageink74]

I’m slowly building up the desire to load up mtgo and play this deck. I actually gathered most of it for free from bulk and free bots. I bought the snuff outs. Wish I had thought of the alternatives. 😅

[@paperpauperplayer]

Dude, do it! I wasn't expecting it to be as fun as it is! Still doesn't beat Caw Gates for me personally, but it's so much fun!

[@aybeesea]

I really don't think that your definition of toolbox deck is correct. Toolbox is more like a deck has the option to get pieces (eg by fetching them with cards like birthing pod) which can handle the threat at hand and thus always have the right tool for the job.

[@paperpauperplayer]

Huh. That does make sense. I was always told that a toolbox deck is a deck that is easily able to function with a vast selection of different cards. That the deck is structured in a way that no matter what supporting tools you put in it, it can still do its thing. Your definition definitely makes sense as well, so perhaps it's a multi-purpose definition? Or I'm just wrong. One or the other lol

[@noramallet2777]

Why didn't you put aquarius Form

[@paperpauperplayer]

As of the time of the recording of this video, literally no one was playing that card in this deck. And as of right now, it still just isn't a viable option. The deck wants as many instant and sorceries as possible to make sure you can cast your big fish as early as turn 3!

[@noramallet2777]

@@paperpauperplayer What about artful dodge

[@paperpauperplayer]

@noramallet2777 also a great card, but again, doesn't really do what the deck wants to do. The fish get by plenty easily without having to be unblockable!

[@colinsickels8013]

For the competitive people out there, you need snuff outs, if your not competitive, go nuts and have fun, I’m the crazy person who spent $350 for my version of the deck because I’m picky with artwork

[@paperpauperplayer]

Please don't take this comment as me arguing with you, I just want to share my perspective and talk about it! I don't fully agree. I 5-0d with this version of the list at my LGS. I'm a highly competitive person, and although I obviously know how big of a deal being able to cast something for free is, and I am aware of the power difference between the two cards, I never struggled to play Ghastly. I am not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it's possible to be competitive without them. Especially where the moments I struggled most was when I needed to kill my opponents creature, but it was black. And that was a bad situation regardless of the card you play. It actually made me feel like I wanted to just play more Cast Downs than anything But perhaps I just haven't felt the "overwhelming power" of using the card because I don't have any. One day, whenever I do get them, perhaps I'll eat my words Yeah the artwork on the original is ugly as hell. Lmao

[@colinsickels8013]

@@paperpauperplayer it’s a world of difference, as a brewer and someone that plays in a 1K event about every month, snuff out has won my opponents games but being able to cantrip into it and not need the extra 1 mana, LGS is perfectly fine to not have it I totally agree, but when your playing a league/bigger event, your going to need them, keep up the content

[@paperpauperplayer]

@colinsickels8013 I suppose that's fair. And trust me, again, I am fully aware of the strength of being able to take out a threat after tapping out. Especially when you can get pretty limited on Black sources at times due to there not being any basic swamps. I am not arguing that at all. But all in all that's completely fair! Thanks, friend!

[@DracosDiabolis]

what a fun deck

[@paperpauperplayer]

Absolutely!

[@MaximumImpactGames]

I have to disagree that Ghastly demise or Vendetta are even remotely the same league as Snuff Out, there is a reason the card costs $15, and a big reason is because of the terror mirror. it is far and away the cheapest way to remove a resolved Terror, it's one of the only ways to guarantee parity against affinity as well. 0 mana is infinitely cheaper than 1 mana. The ability to tap out and still have the ability to hold up interaction is THE reason it's one of the best decks in the format. Try and kill a Terror with vendetta, and it costs 3 mana plus 5 life, or with ghastly demise, you need to have enough to play your own terrors and again, you're still paying 3 mana for the interaction, meaning a player with snuff out can do the same thing AND hold up spell pierce (which the deck typically runs 3 of), and this problem only gets exacerbated on the play because of the mana base since there is literally no way to play either Ghastly Demise or Vendetta turn 1 with your manabase. Game 1 someone plays Monastery Swiftspear against you? play your tapland and just take the 4, swiftspear is going to do more than 4 damage to you. With vendetta? you take that much damage, PLUS you're a turn back, potentially you're lower even more. With Ghastly demise? Hope you have a thought scour and a land to back it up, because you can't even hit it. If you're just playing casually, yeah, there's no need to spend money on Snuff Outs, but that card fundamentally changes the calculus of the deck. You will lose a LOT more games you could have won (especially in game 1 in the blind) if every Ghastly Demise and Vendetta was a snuff out instead.

[@paperpauperplayer]

Yeah I never said none of this wasn't true. Snuff Out is a phenomenal card, and I know Ghastly and Vendetta are worse, but again, if someone wants to play this deck and doesn't have the $60 to drop on the playset, these are the next best two options

[@MaximumImpactGames]

@@paperpauperplayer I think it's worth saying Snuff Out is as much a reason to play the deck as Monastery Swiftspear is to Burn. You could play a version without it, it won't actually be that competitive.

[@paperpauperplayer]

@MaximumImpactGames that I'd disagree. It's more like not having bolts, and having to use Shocks instead

[@MaximumImpactGames]

@@paperpauperplayer That is an apt comparison and a great example of how utterly outclassed shock is. It takes 10 shocks to kill an opponent, only 7 bolts, Shock can't kill a majority of impactful creatures in the format (augur of bolas, boarding party, jewel thief, dawnbringer cleric, kor skyfisher, thorn of the black rose) If you were playing Burn and didn't have Bolts, I absolutely would say you should play something else, it is completely uncompetitive at that point. The WB initiative/flicker deck is a good example of a deck where you can cut the expensive cards. Snuff Out is much less important there, as is Dust to Dust only being important specifically in the Affinity Matchup.

[@paperpauperplayer]

Alright, that's all fair to be honest!

[@brianwebb27]

Maybe the people who are selling copies on tcgp and ck are the ones insisting u need to play snuff out.. 🤔

[@paperpauperplayer]

That tends to be how everything works in this world lmao

[@Ian-qf5ny]

Yeah snuff out is a bit over hyped especially as the main removal spell imo. If you use 2 thats 8 life… i dont really want to pay that much life against burn or aggro, 2 mana for cast down is fine. I also dont main board deep analysis anymore either cause 4 mana is too much to if its in my hand and then hoping to mill it so i can pay 3 life… idk i just replaced it with cards i actually want to play instead of paying a bunch to try and draw the cards i need. Ive got 4 cast down, 2 edicts and 2 disfigures mainboard. And then 4 counterspell, 2 spell pierce and 2 dispel also main board. Its not even so much about the price for snuff out to me. This is one of my most expensive decks i have it in all foils and 2 different sets of expensive lands. The judgment mental note foils are like 20 bucks each but so sick lol. Well i guess foil snuff out is big big bucks too so that kills my all foil vibe so fuck em lol Also sick pube on tolorian terror at the start bro hahaha!

[@paperpauperplayer]

Oooh I like the idea of Disfigure! See that's why I love this deck. It's open to a bunch of variety! Whole thing is FOIL!? Damn bro. Thats insane. I've yet to decide which deck I want to get in all foil. I don't have that kind of money at the moment haha Thanks! I put it there myself 😀 lmao

[@Ian-qf5ny]

Disfigure puts in a lot of work for 1 mana haha! Im also running 4 delver of secrets cause it wrecks. Yeah 100% foil including sideboard lol. The 20th anniversary from the vault or whatever chainers edict foils are blingin. Ive got kiln fiend 100% foil aswell except red ele blast in sideboard cause wtf and honestly i dont even like playing hosers. Kiln has a full set of the all will be one oil slick lands. My white lightning homebrew also 100% foil. Synthislighzer goblins 90% foil cause there’s literally no foil mogg raider and i can never find foil kuldotha rebirths. Foil goblin tokens though haha! 90% foil caw gates with all foil gates and foil dominaria united lands, the stained glass looking full art ones. Probably 65% foil (not counting lands)on my burn deck. Id say 75% foil on instant heroic haha! That would be a good one for you to bling out considering thats your own variant. Also most of the cards on that list are pretty affordable foils i think other than sacred cat ($7-10) and journey ($5-7) Thank god its not the card kingdom mystery bonus pube haha

[@paperpauperplayer]

@Ian-qf5ny that's so sick bro! And as much as I love my mono white instantly heroic deck, it isn't my favorite deck. If I were to bling one out, it'd most likely be Caw Gates!

[@Ian-qf5ny]

The tony haws are sweet but not a cheap date haha! Most of the decks not bad except journey and the cats but the strands is like 20 bucks and guardian is even more haha! So those are the only 2 i dont have foil. The gates took a while to collect also. The basilisk gate foil does look really good though haha

[@malzinor8207]

Snuff outs are pain in the ass atm 😢

[@paperpauperplayer]

Yeah, seriously..

[@shamilpower92]

Bro, snuff out prices in the states is ridicolous😊

[@paperpauperplayer]

How much you got em for? 👀

[@shamilpower92]

@@paperpauperplayer 9 euros each:) 2 english and 2 portuguese

[@Generic42]

So glad I bought into Pauper years ago, I have dozens of Snuff Outs all bought for ~$1 each

[@paperpauperplayer]

@Generic42 Well, if you ever consider supporting a channel and selling 4 of those dozens of snuff outs to a growing content creator for a dollar a piece, I might know a guy 👀

[@shamilpower92]

@@paperpauperplayer best answer

[@jtp1389]

How on Earth are you keeping your hat on your head?

[@paperpauperplayer]

It's glued