Mission Impossible 318 - First Major Hurdle Cleared, The Little Carter 2 Barrel Carb That Can!

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Uncle Tony's Garage

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@indianaslim4971
@indianaslim4971 Жыл бұрын
Now the question becomes How are you going to quantify the different parts on the 361 Belvedere, are you getting a Dyno?, will it be on the track?
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage Жыл бұрын
Plan is for the car to be a rolling dyno. Large tires, very tight converter and highway gears so that we don't have to take traction or driving style into account and a Dragy for primary timng device.
@Ecosse57
@Ecosse57 Жыл бұрын
@@UncleTonysGarage can you post up a link to that guy charles you mentioned?
@outlawbillionairez9780
@outlawbillionairez9780 Жыл бұрын
@@Ecosse57 he's got his KZbin channel posted.
@outlawbillionairez9780
@outlawbillionairez9780 Жыл бұрын
@@Ecosse57 Charles Servedio.
@indianaslim4971
@indianaslim4971 Жыл бұрын
@@UncleTonysGarage 👍
@jseal21
@jseal21 Жыл бұрын
I am a SUPER FAN of Mission Impossible and I've been getting more and more disenfranchised about this build seemingly going off on a tangent from where it's stated goals were. SO GLAD TO SEE YOU'VE GOTTEN IT BACK ON TRACK!!!! Do whatever you want after but hot rod techniques on a production engine with production parts is what got my attention. Let's see those 318 HP!!!
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. David's comments on providing the 'absolute best possible engine" was not the goal.
@modelnutty6503
@modelnutty6503 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see UTG do a "backyard+junkyard built" version of this 318 project and see what it'll give, going through by hand+eye just tinkering. I'm sure it'd deliver much better power+economy than factory. raffle it? slap it into an econo-rail? Tony's got quite a bit on his plate already too now.
@forthwithtx5852
@forthwithtx5852 Жыл бұрын
I pretty much stopped watching their content once they veered off course. Gonna have to take a look now.
@jseal21
@jseal21 Жыл бұрын
@@forthwithtx5852 I've been geeking out on Charlie doing all the head and intake work, now they're saying they aren't using his heads. I know this is their thing but I really want to see his heads on this engine. For the last month and a half he has tried every trick in the book to balance flow and swirl and as far as I'm concerned he's earned the right to have them used. If they fail swap for whoever else is doing them
@Bodgemiester
@Bodgemiester Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@cwfella
@cwfella Жыл бұрын
Having watched DV’s carb vid, couldn’t agree more! Absolutely brilliant
@craighansen7594
@craighansen7594 Жыл бұрын
David's video on the carb was Very interesting. DVs work on the rods was Extremely interesting. I had applied some of those carburetor basics to a Carter AFB years ago and it was well worth the time spent. Charles on the intake manifold work is also a very interesting video series. Just watch them all!
@joshwood241
@joshwood241 Жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for this. I'm currently refreshing a 78 318 I got for free to get my truck on the road. My budget is just about big enough for gaskets and bearings. It has a BBD and pretty much everything I can find online says to throw it away and buy an edelbrock. That's not really an option for me right now, so I'm stoked to learn what I can do with what I already have! Your channel is the best on YT.
@darrylsmith7908
@darrylsmith7908 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you could just find a 4bbl cast iron manifold from a junkyard and an edelbrock from marketplace
@dang5553
@dang5553 Жыл бұрын
Remember to port your 318 to line up the 360 intake it’s not much
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
for fuel economy, a 4bll beats a 2 bll--which sounds odd--because the primaries on the 4bll don't have to feed the engine all the way to red-line. the secondaries can take over at an RPM beyond usual cruising speed, and a Carter/Qjet/Edelbrock 4 holer will have a spread bore advantage of small primary holes and larger secondary holes. so it's like two carbs in one, if you know how to tune it. plus its where you get that classic "bwaaaaa" sound from 1970's TV shows :) but there's nothing wrong with putting money into the short block to make it reliable, and using whatever top end you have lying around to its best advantage. get the project working and on the road, and the next tax refund you get (or other windfall) you can easily bolt on a new intake and carb. harder to go back into the block to put in a truck crank.
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
@@darrylsmith7908 in the good ol' days when 340's were still common and not restoration pieces, the factory cast iron intake matched the performance of non SP dual plane street intakes. but now its a restoration piece--with price to match.
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 Жыл бұрын
Actually, a 2bbl 360 manifold with a larger 2bbl carb works pretty good too. And the 360,383, and 400 2bbl all had about the same carb for several years. Just a low buck alternative to a 4bbl and manifold.
@combustion-junkiecustomart8083
@combustion-junkiecustomart8083 Жыл бұрын
David's video is freakin amazing!!! I don't want to mess with my "runs perfectly fine" Olds 350, but this is stuff that will just improve my stock set up. Love it!!!
@steveduecker9872
@steveduecker9872 Жыл бұрын
David’s video is well worth the time. A lot of good information you use on any carb!
@robertreavley7145
@robertreavley7145 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching DV from the beginning! Bought his book on head tuning! I descovered you Tony early last year! And your no nonsense frank matter of fact attitude along with your vast common sense knowledge! I listen to EVERYTHING you say!! CIP the honing ov cylinders using a Straight hone to keep the bore perpendicular and straight was head n shoulders above all the other KZbinrs out there I learn from! I’m blown away how your friends with DV&Andy! Makes sense when you think about it! I’m just so glad you 3 are a force to be reckoned with!! Thank you bud for your greatness! Long may it last!!!
@moparmatt5896
@moparmatt5896 Жыл бұрын
I'm all about it man I'll be tuning in to David also thanks so much for all the effort
@bb400dart2
@bb400dart2 Жыл бұрын
I 8:41 love the 318 mission impossible film and anticipate new episodes like I’m waiting for Star Wars Empire strikes back to come out, David,‘s information is incredible! and all the information coming out is exactly what I love about automotive thank you for these videos
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
Going fast with parts that aren't supposed to is my motto. Love this project!
@mikebrooka9395
@mikebrooka9395 Жыл бұрын
I watched David's video and many of his other ones. Mission Impossible also gives me some flashbacks to my racing mower days. If it would make more flow, I did it. 35 years ago mower racing was unheard of. There was zero aftermarket and all parts were modified 'stock ' parts. Some huge laughs and teasing was made. One cylinder was 100% of the power. Items were lightened and/or salvaged from other makes and model engines. Bushings were made from old plumbing fittings. Cams were welded and reground. And of course, carb mods. Jet drills were used. Venturies were hogged out. Chokes eliminated. Knife edged butterflies and shafts. Radiused seats and valves. Anti reversion grooves on intake and opposite grooves on exhaust. Headers and intakes adjusted or built countless times. Basically the whole laundry list. Laughing always stopped when one of those flat black monsters started. A choppy loping 'idle ' and revved like a chainsaw. One account said 'he went by us shifting gears!'. Some guys would come by the house to try to buy my go-kart for their kids... LOL. All in all, what I learned was put into my V8's. So I guess a sbc 400 in a 70 Caprice daily driver that gets near 20mpg and carries the left front past 60ft with everyday tires and no burnout is decent.... just starting from an old junked riding mower. Mikel
@brucesherrill4116
@brucesherrill4116 Жыл бұрын
I hope they try out Charles’s heads on the engine still. He has put a ton of time into those 302 casting heads.
@jseal21
@jseal21 Жыл бұрын
1,000,000% agree! I can't believe he's done all that work on heads that aren't even being used. He's back to the dual plane so I guess the single got cut?.?.?
@ramoncasillas4490
@ramoncasillas4490 Жыл бұрын
Love your show!! Like i have always said YOUR A LIVING LEGEND. thank you for your knowledge....🙏🏽💯
@bw3506
@bw3506 Жыл бұрын
I watched that vid last night. Very interesting tips on how they got the flow up. Gonna be a very cool project.
@davidcamp3045
@davidcamp3045 Жыл бұрын
Loving this. Doing similar on my 73 Nova 7.6 to1 307.. Mild porting and gasketmatch.. a little milling , 0.016" head gaskets and 1.6 rockers..
@Grumpy-sy7wr
@Grumpy-sy7wr Жыл бұрын
My favorite little puppy, the BBD. I love fiddling with those, and despite popular opinion, a very reliable little carb.
@craighansen7594
@craighansen7594 Жыл бұрын
I would love to try a trio of them on my 1970 340. The manifold would be expensive but the carbs priced at scrap metal prices. OR maybe 4 little 2bbls on a street tunnel ram.....
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 Жыл бұрын
@@craighansen7594 ....4 x2bbls on a street tunnel ram would ROCK
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
@@craighansen7594 agreed. back in the day, chevy chevettes came with Holley 2300 carbs, and that was a "cheap" alternative to those of us with more time than money. But i keep grabbing Ford motorcraft 2-holers when they're by the bunch (72 hrs ago it was 4 of them and a pair of quads plus rebuild kit for $50) to create some multi-carb intake setups to avoid the classic single carb issue of unequal length intake runners. Chevy fans have it lucky, an aftermarket aluminum intake goes for less than $100, so it's worth cutting up and putting in a new plenum like a Bob Crietz design.
@ricksshop
@ricksshop Жыл бұрын
I thought that 275 HP rating of the 340 was underrated after taking mine apart. Forged bottom end, floating pins, factory windage tray, 2.02 intake valves, healthy cam, Chrysler meant business with that engine...
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the stock 340 was putting out closer to 325-350hp.But Chrysler intentionally underrated all of their hipo engines back in the day. The 426 Hemi was putting out closer to 500hp vs. its 425hp rating.
@keithlowe1982
@keithlowe1982 3 ай бұрын
@@clembob8004 I think I had heard Chrysler engines weren't really "underrated"... Just not a case of telling the 'whole truth' They would say 275 HP @ 4800(?) Which it probably was. BUT, the motor would still be pulling up to 52 - 5500 RPM
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 3 ай бұрын
@@keithlowe1982 Yep, that's a fair point.
@Yo-mamashouse
@Yo-mamashouse Жыл бұрын
Mission impossible is great! David vizard is hard to understand sometimes because he is a genius scientist when it comes to engines. I truly believe that they're going to make a lot more horsepower than we think.
@ronhood7773
@ronhood7773 Жыл бұрын
I ran stock eliminator in 76 running a decked 318 and a highly modified 2bbl Carter. My work at the dodge dealership as a line tech gave me plenty of patients for my R&D!!! You could file the mixture lift cam for a automatic or set them to flood at idle for a manual. They were the days...
@bransonbasher6534
@bransonbasher6534 Жыл бұрын
"The science and techniques to make power..." Exactly!
@ratt727
@ratt727 Жыл бұрын
Good tech session, it’s see what you can do with stock parts out there. Whether it’s nascar car or formula 1, the restrictions are there for engine parameters, the question is how you can massage the existing rules to build more power with your engine.
@bobthompson4133
@bobthompson4133 Жыл бұрын
Lots of knowledge will be lost about old muscle car tech when us old codgers croak
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын
It's already happening. I'm only 49 and getting really bummed out lately about all my heroes are dying off. Getting old is a bunch of bullpuckey. No I don't want a Corvette for a midlife crisis, I want all the people who've left us back.
@guyderagisch4964
@guyderagisch4964 Жыл бұрын
Maybe on carbs
@Hotrodford
@Hotrodford Жыл бұрын
Yep we’re the last of a breed.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 Жыл бұрын
Joe Mondello said he wanted to share everything he knew about Hot Rodding so it didn't die with him Smokey Yunick, not so much until after he was gone and Jenkins liked to keep people in suspense.
@Santor-
@Santor- Жыл бұрын
Flip side is the younger ones have already embraced newer vehicles, as the old stuff mostly got hoarded by the boomers with no way to compete financially to buy them.
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 Жыл бұрын
The David Vizard video on the 318 Mission Impossible is really good. Really amazing gains in CFM on that little 2bbl carb, and those are tricks that can be done on other carbs. What I would like to see is how much HP could be squeezed out of a totally stock 340 from say 69 or 70. I bet close to 400hp could be had.
@lilmike2710
@lilmike2710 Жыл бұрын
I've mentioned it here before, I've seen 318 builds absolutely humiliate people at the track. I've had a couple myself that surprised folks.
@daviddavid5880
@daviddavid5880 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for this 318 info. I'm thinking of reviving a derelict barn find 73 D10 pickup (straight, low rust, spins, only 80k on the odo) with a 318 and this is really encouraging.
@mschiffel1
@mschiffel1 Жыл бұрын
When you and Andy and DV finish this 318, you should put it into a Dart or Valiant with a A-833 Four speed trans. Flog it and test it for best ET and MPH. Then swap in a 904 or a 727 and compare the two different transmissions driven by a good running 318.
@jamesmackinlay4477
@jamesmackinlay4477 Жыл бұрын
If the person driving the stick is Good it will be a bit quicker.
@aprules2
@aprules2 Жыл бұрын
I love that idea
@lordphullautosear
@lordphullautosear Жыл бұрын
Good idea. 👍
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. That would get my attention for sure
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 Жыл бұрын
You guys must not watch Vizard's channel. It's being auctioned off for Children's Hospital.
@codyedgington6852
@codyedgington6852 Жыл бұрын
Tell ya what,that be a nice lil engine for one of your vehicles. And man. I love that 361. She looks real good
@randyclarke7276
@randyclarke7276 Жыл бұрын
it's so good that you introduced us to David D and his crew
@cmw184
@cmw184 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 😎 Im planning on building a twin turbo 318, new pistons, ported heads, forged crank, .480 cam, parts i plan to use. But, i dont know every single thing i want to do yet, but THIS will definitely help with everything. You do so much small block stuff, so much knowledge is in these videos man. We appreciate it.
@damyanovasen
@damyanovasen Жыл бұрын
Interesting how the metal of such an old engine would hold up to the heat of a turbocharger. How do you plan on cooling it?
@cmw184
@cmw184 Жыл бұрын
@@damyanovasen tonys done a couple videos on dudes that have superchargers on stock 60s chrylser big blocks They make around 650hp, stock pistons, stock rods, stock heads, theyre really well built Turbos arent much different, you dont even really need intercoolers either, since in a blowthrough setup, the carb atomizing the fuel, cools the air (after the carb, inside the intake) down to like 50 degrees, around half of what it is before the carb. As for the radiator, probably an aluminum aftermarket one.
@damyanovasen
@damyanovasen Жыл бұрын
A turbo charger heats up the engine more as it restricts exhaust flow. Not sure if these engines have oil jets cooling the bottom of the piston but you’ll need them, oil cooler too for sure. You’ll need an intecooler unless you plan on using methanol . Also how do you plan on twin turboing it? Compound the turbos and you’ll likely have predetonation maybe even in the plumbing before the engine itself, parallel turbos means you’ll have to use two carbs. I’d say stick to single turbo, low boost and enjoy the torque. You’ll go faster on nitrous tho
@cmw184
@cmw184 Жыл бұрын
@@damyanovasen well, ive done a lot of research, and seen a lot of people not use intercoolers with blowthrough setups, and be completely fine on pump gas.. especially since these engines are 7.5-8/1 compression stock. But, i plan on doing one for each bank of cylinders. I dont like the single turbos since it only uses 1 header, and the other goes unused.. plus 2 smaller turbos will make boost quicker than one big one.
@damyanovasen
@damyanovasen Жыл бұрын
Sounds do-able but kinda sketchy. I really want to see it. You plan on filming it and posting it?
@lewhanna6112
@lewhanna6112 Жыл бұрын
Looks like my shop when I'm in build mode, it's not messy it's lived in.
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 Жыл бұрын
I love that brilliant yellow on the 361, it’s retina burning!
@jeremylastname873
@jeremylastname873 Жыл бұрын
Charles is not taking names. He’s just kicking tails. ❤
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello Жыл бұрын
I love what you are doing with mission impossible.
@deanstevenson6527
@deanstevenson6527 Жыл бұрын
In Moo Zealand, we had the blue 318 as a Regal SE engine from 1974 to 1982. No one did anything to that engine because the 216 HP Pacer 265 2bbl and 302 HP 265 Hemi Six packs were so much tougher. But the 318 was always fit enough for a 100 HP gross boost with just a great cam, gas flow carb. It was only 230 HP gross, 145 ho net, so that 1 HP per cube goal has never been in doubt
@froelichwind
@froelichwind Жыл бұрын
Watched David V videos , theory and practical application excellent. Love your videos, so much to learn and apply. Thanks for all you do.
@mrkultra1655
@mrkultra1655 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MoparBob1974
@MoparBob1974 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 290HP 340+6 , but that was with T/A heads , a 6 pack etc etc
@kaitlynhelton4480
@kaitlynhelton4480 Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff my 86 power ram come from the factory with the Holley clone of the bbd, it was a very reliable carburetor I ran it for many years, unfortunately it had no adjustment except for idle, it was flooding out bad, hard starts, I believe it was leaking of into the intake too, I tried rebuilding it, also a new float, but it did no good, I ended up replacing it, but it went 36 year's of faithful service
@dalepatterson4160
@dalepatterson4160 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to the 361 Mule, I believe there is a little bit of Project-X influence going on. And, yes, how are you going to quantify the results? A Dyno would be nice however, they are rather expensive. Maybe a lot of track time? The "Mission Impossible" techniques harken back to the days of Junior Stock Eliminator, the better you can tune, the quicker you can go.
@fifthlomat717
@fifthlomat717 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a recreation of the 300 ci 318 I saw in a mopar proformance magazine it was made for racing restrictions but it used a uncut 318 crank to shorten the stroke and had the oil passage mods to become capable of 8000 rpm, i think nice 10.5 compression and a turbo with e85 could really make some heads spin
@dang5553
@dang5553 Жыл бұрын
That man Charles has worked wonders on the intakes. I never knew they sucked that bad. I’m amazed Chrysler got over 120hp from a 318 with that intake
@brianlevan339
@brianlevan339 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching the 3 of them from the beginning of this experiment , coolest thing on KZbin.
@blakenorman4822
@blakenorman4822 Жыл бұрын
Im running an 85 d150 stock 318 88,000 miles, one pump fires right up o degrees outside no problem, my daily driver, factory choke still solid, bought holley 4 barrel vacum secondary 600 cfm, new intake, headers, to throw on and play around, maybe thrown in cam after i do new carb intake install get that running well first, but my truck runs so smooth right now, scared to play with it
@raybrensike42
@raybrensike42 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking my van with a stock 318 would have liked to be in your guy's hands. Really do enjoy the vid's on this impossible project. May God's blessing be on it.
@servediocylinderheads
@servediocylinderheads Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out! I am learning and enjoying this project. It is for charity!!! St. Judes! Thank you!
@terrellstewart1532
@terrellstewart1532 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff keep up the good work man🔧🚘
@jamesboardman7048
@jamesboardman7048 Жыл бұрын
I had great luck with the Holley 2300 Series carburetor 500 cfm on my Ford 302.in a maverick with auto trans. Had no money when young so just matched intake and exhaust runners up. It just pulled hard and smooth thru the 1/8 miles we would run at.
@JustMoparJoe
@JustMoparJoe Жыл бұрын
An awesome job on that carburetor!
@MsKatjie
@MsKatjie Жыл бұрын
your soooo right unc Tony. gold. I would cheat. cut the deck down to raise comp and reduce the base circle of the cam, in order to hot it up and weld some stuff on a lobe and smooth it, all nice. play with rocker ratio by raising and moving the common rocker shaft
@brokentoolgarage
@brokentoolgarage Жыл бұрын
The carb video by DV and Andy is a must watch. I am going to dig up all my old 2bbl carbs and play with them now for the sl6 Ramcharger build. Also, would the Holley 2280 2bbl (circa 85ish 318 truck) count for this build? It may be easier to get jets or w/e for it. I like the idea of a mule engine. Would like to do a 318 for the same purpose
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to check back in if they’re back on track. Lost interest when they started going towards building a more “proper” engine. While there’s still tricks and science to building engines, if you start throwing money and good parts at something it’s likely to easily make power. The interest with the project is maximizing the stock parts to make something run good with the “junk” it came with or you can get for cheap.
@peters8758
@peters8758 Жыл бұрын
Try some stock 360 truck exhaust manifolds, maybe they will help it exhale. Dunno if the driver's side exhaust would clear the stock steering column, though, even the A-body 340 exhaust was tricky past my (power) steering.
@donaldgilbreath4200
@donaldgilbreath4200 Жыл бұрын
I saw that video, I have two Rochester Quadrajets on a shelf I'm going to try that on.
@ArthurSperotto
@ArthurSperotto Жыл бұрын
Come on Tony, just put nitro through that 361 and BAM the Hellvedere is active again!
@neco1562
@neco1562 Жыл бұрын
bravo chief
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Жыл бұрын
HOWdy U-T-G, ... Thanks for the UPDATES on the 318 ci = ONE HP Per Cube 🙂 ... COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...
@garymatthys3605
@garymatthys3605 Жыл бұрын
fixing mismatched gaskets, flanges and mating surfaces goes to the idea of blueprinting.
@pauljconroysr4080
@pauljconroysr4080 Жыл бұрын
LOVED THE CARTER CARBS THEY WERE EASY TO WORK ON AND COULD GET SO MUCH OUT OF THEM !! :) what a lot of people dont realize is that Holley was the maker of them thru a separate plant as far as i know of .
@firebird77clonefirebird89
@firebird77clonefirebird89 Жыл бұрын
I thought Carter was actually edelbrock?
@pauljconroysr4080
@pauljconroysr4080 Жыл бұрын
@@firebird77clonefirebird89 when i had mine done by a shop years ago i was told that it was by holley but i might be mistaken on it . and it was from a 1983 Dip and as well as a 5th ave
@AdmiralRustyShackleford
@AdmiralRustyShackleford Жыл бұрын
I'd like to build a mild LA318, stock short block with ported heads milled down to make 10:1, something like an XE268 cam, dual plane air gap and Holley 600 Brawler. Put it in front of a 3 or 4spd manual in an E-body, that'd be a dream for me.
@jonathanbunker8077
@jonathanbunker8077 Жыл бұрын
Are there anymore videos on the mission impossible 318 build? I just bought my first 84 d150 with a 318 and would love to learn more classic hotrod tricks.
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut Жыл бұрын
I am a retired engine builder after 32 years and have rebuilt countless small block Chryslers. I must say the limits you have placed on this build and trying to achieve 1 hp per cubic inch is extremely unlikely. A well built 318 with decent compression, cam, good flowing heads is still tough to make any decent power. Good luck but I feel it will make about half the number you are shooting for.
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 Жыл бұрын
If you followed any of the Bottle Rocket videos, the 318 can be built to do quite well. The 340 is the virtually the same engine built for high performance.
@N2YTA
@N2YTA Жыл бұрын
You say that engine will make half of what they’re looking for, however the 318 is rated at about 230 HP, they’re hoping for a little over 300, about a 35% increase. The stock engine is already over half of what they’re looking for. Personally I don’t see how they will be able to get the power they want with that intake manifold & carburetor but the whole idea of the project is to just see what’s possible. Personally I think they’ll get maybe 20%; 270ish HP. That would be pretty good without using any aftermarket speed equipment.
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut Жыл бұрын
@@clembob8004 The 318 is definitely not virtually the same as a 340. Who told you that? What I said was that with the perimeters stated it will make half the hp of what the goal is. Engine building and making hp is not black and white as you are comparing the factory hp rating of a brand new car before emissions to a used smog era parts that are worn along with an old carburetor. You are comparing apples to bowling balls. One important factor too is that the factory hp rating of a 318 was actually overrated, especially in the 70’s. If that engine is put on a dyno imo and experience i believe it will not make that power. Plus, why so defensive? This is a shot in the dark. No one has any idea what hp that engine will make until it is tested.
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut
@FrankIzzo-rx3ut Жыл бұрын
@@N2YTA Have you ever rebuilt engines or worked on engines? Because you are being way too exact on hp figures on an engine that is used which right there no one will have any idea what percent more or less power it will make because there are too many unknowns. This engine is not being built in a vacuum. No one knows how worn the engine is, if there is damage, how much compression loss there is. Throwing together a bunch of used parts and saying it will make this much hp is frankly foolish.
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 Жыл бұрын
@@FrankIzzo-rx3ut Nobody "told" me that. I have had both 318s and 340s. A 340 is just a 318 modified for high performance, 22 more cubes (same stroke as a 318), bigger heads, cam, 4bb intake and carb. The 318 is the foundation upon which the 340 was built. We'll see how it turns out. I know for a fact the 318 is a good engine to hot rod, and works really well in a lighter car. Obviously, a 340 or 360 is better.
@leinie6683
@leinie6683 Жыл бұрын
Why dont you start out with exhaust manifolds on that 361 and then quantify header gain?
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
Probably an easy 75ftlbs and 50hp going to good headers. Nick has done back to back header vs manifold testing a few times and its almost always about that.
@raybrensike42
@raybrensike42 Жыл бұрын
Found the video I was looking for on flow testing the mission impossible carb. Hey Tony, suppose somebody took off a bunch of metal off the car, melted it down and formed a new 650 CFM carb out of it. Would that be breaking the rules?....lol. Just a thought here.
@davidgriffin2918
@davidgriffin2918 Жыл бұрын
I watched mr Vizards video it was excellent veiwing , p s Einstein's desk was very messy
@mostlyoldparts
@mostlyoldparts Жыл бұрын
I really like the purpose of both the 318 AND the 361. I think it would be cool to see what horsepower gains (or losses) result from simply changing the viscosity of the engine oil.
@genemiller6837
@genemiller6837 Жыл бұрын
Anyone can go out and buy speed parts and make horse power this is seeing what you can do with what you got plus it's the best low buck way to hotrod an engine
@tried2call260
@tried2call260 Жыл бұрын
Really can't get too excited about a Chrysler 318. Looks like they are really dredging for some content.
@N2YTA
@N2YTA Жыл бұрын
The whole concept of Tony's channel is to do more with less. There are lots of channels where they use all the best speed equipment available and have all the best shop equipment. but that's not the real world of hot rodding & drag racing. The 318 is a very available and low cost engine; perfect for the low budget builder.
@geoffmatthews8302
@geoffmatthews8302 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Tony
@josephsperrazza3082
@josephsperrazza3082 Жыл бұрын
What Nunzio Did With His 4cyl Tempest UnReal .
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 Жыл бұрын
Was amazing to see how much gains in airflow to be had by "simply" streamlining the butterflies. My guess is 350hp end result.
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 Жыл бұрын
I did that....streamlining the butterflys....back in '79 on the carb i did for a 302 4V motor for my '66 Mushtang.....I got laughed at....until my little 302 Mushtang for cheap was faster than their high dollar junk that didnt work right and never would....
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 Жыл бұрын
@@ssnerd583 I probably would've laughed too. Till I saw the results.
@donaldhalls2189
@donaldhalls2189 Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing, all the best to yous and your loved ones
@rescuedandrestoredgarage
@rescuedandrestoredgarage Жыл бұрын
That is so awesome, brother. Keep up the awesome content.
@robertchall8576
@robertchall8576 Жыл бұрын
I like simple and dependable.
@redneck5356
@redneck5356 Жыл бұрын
Where did the brown beige Dodge Dart go? Nice looking old car
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 Жыл бұрын
Listen, shut up and learn.. Mission Impossible is close to my Life, due to having a Daily 318 with said BBD ...
@Fleetwoodjohn
@Fleetwoodjohn Жыл бұрын
Round out those wheel openings a bit! The hex look is killing it
@Terrible1Joe
@Terrible1Joe Жыл бұрын
This project is pretty much NHRA Junior Stock drag racing in a nutshell.
@ianw9171
@ianw9171 Жыл бұрын
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MEASURE THE DIFFERENT CHANGES ON THE MULE? DYNO, DRAG TIMES, OR ANOTHER METHOD?
@BodyManRon
@BodyManRon Жыл бұрын
He has an answer pinned at the top
@Authorityoneverything
@Authorityoneverything Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony could you possibly do a video on the Chrysler ts3 engine I never heard of this interesting design
@georgekaplan6451
@georgekaplan6451 Жыл бұрын
There is a TS4 too. One prototype remains in Auckland, New Zealand.
@Authorityoneverything
@Authorityoneverything Жыл бұрын
@@georgekaplan6451 it's a really cool idea I wonder why they stopped trying to advance the design because I would think that it would have a good balance and it would save some space if you mounted it horizontal
@georgekaplan6451
@georgekaplan6451 Жыл бұрын
@@Authorityoneverything Chrysler bought Rootes Group in the 60's and already had contracts with Cummins for diesels. The TS4 was considerably more advanced so they had to kill it to protect the contracts.
@embreesmith7613
@embreesmith7613 Жыл бұрын
I use 1/2" electrical conduit for this
@JO3BID3N-is-a-P3D0
@JO3BID3N-is-a-P3D0 4 ай бұрын
is the carter bbd the same to the holley 2280? im trying to go from 1986 feedback carb to a old skool pre 85 2 barrel carb for my 318ci
@leighhaberl981
@leighhaberl981 Жыл бұрын
the 318 project is still the best series on YT at the moment, it still is doing stuff you can do at home with normal tools.
@paulalvaro6313
@paulalvaro6313 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the end result. I wish your videos were more structured. Go through each different build one day a week and leave the non related tech talk for the weekends perhaps. I know perfect world scenario right 😂
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony, check out the Creedence Chrysler Revival channel on KZbin. What he does with cheap Speedmaster heads is inspiring, you two are definitely of the same spirit.
@anthonysantiago1999
@anthonysantiago1999 Жыл бұрын
So are you guys gonna be using factory pistons, push rods etc.. ? just saw a video on Davids site and there talking about Hi-PO pistons and Gm push rods.
@Richie_the_Fixer
@Richie_the_Fixer Жыл бұрын
GM pushrods ? That's still 'factory' , GM has a couple factories ! I think the intent is no AFTERMARKET parts , what you can find in the junkyard is fair game !
@anthonysantiago1999
@anthonysantiago1999 Жыл бұрын
@@Richie_the_Fixer I think the intent is to gain as much power out of a "Factory production Chrysler 318 using Chrysler factory production parts. But I could be wrong.
@jamesschneider3329
@jamesschneider3329 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysantiago1999 I don't mind the mix/match of different brands for this build. I still consider it to be in the spirit of the build to use parts that are considered "low performance" from any platform.
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador Жыл бұрын
DV was also talking about LS valves, titanium retainers, and aftermarket springs. I thought the build was supposed to be all stock, or stock replacement parts (like 30 over pistons). Almost like you were marooned on a desert island with a brand new bone stock 318 and all the tools you would need to grind, cut, machine, and weld on what you had and only what you had. No going to the parts stash for stuff from other engines. That being said I feel that even though it has changed paths there is still a lot of good info to learn from.
@anthonysantiago1999
@anthonysantiago1999 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesschneider3329 Oh I completely agree, im wondering what Tony thinks of this plan. I think Tony is thinking of the average "Joe" with little knowledge and wants to peak out his stock engine with what hes got. Should be interesting on what route they take.
@dionrau5580
@dionrau5580 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching that it's Very Interesting, and it occurs to me that they just showed you something that might be just the thing for your slanty drag car...or any slant six ya want to hot up on the cheap... right?
@JamesSterling
@JamesSterling Жыл бұрын
Why cripple yourself by building a smog motor? Use the same principal of all stock parts using a pre-emission '60s era 318.
@smilsmff
@smilsmff Жыл бұрын
also quite possible opposite direction a 318 could be bored and stroked and use E.Q. Magnum heads and ported to supply power to make 600 HP, and there is a small block 800 cfm that was O.E.
@dnmtorp
@dnmtorp Жыл бұрын
I had a 318 that had 350 to 375 horse. It wasn't all stock parts but I used a lot of them. 318 bored .060 over with 10 1/2 to 1 pistons, I can't remember any specs about the cam except it was what they called an RV cam. 360 J heads ported and polished and a 360 intake with 650 carter. After going thru 5 904s, It used to take me about 4 hours to replace them on my back on the garage floor, I put in an A-833 4 speed. That was a lot of work to install with the clutch pedal and all but it sure was a fun car. Nothing is more fun driving than a V8 with a 4 speed.
@trickster8635
@trickster8635 Жыл бұрын
How do you get 10.5:1 with 360 heads?
@dnmtorp
@dnmtorp Жыл бұрын
@@trickster8635 Put new pistons in. Don't know how else you do it unless you shave the heads. J heads are almost 340 heads except the intake valves are .188 instead of .210 and I would have had them opened up except I ran out of money for that. Still it was a fun car. 73 Dart Sport with a 4 speed, red with yellow and orange stripes, not factory colors, custom paint I did myself.
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 Жыл бұрын
The little engine that could 😉
@Clawson_customs
@Clawson_customs Жыл бұрын
What is the link to the other guys video
@josephtravers777
@josephtravers777 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6nKgZSrn6ZrmZI
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador Жыл бұрын
They are in the video description. If you cant see them just search KZbin for David Vizard, Unity MotorSports Garage, and Charles Servedio cylinder head porting & flowbench.
@samhicks97
@samhicks97 Жыл бұрын
I have some "mods" i've done on my 361 daily driver. can't wait to share with what i've done, no dyno so i don't exactly know if the "Mods" have made any real HP gains. Can't wait for another installment of mission: impossible.
@jonathoncouchey7151
@jonathoncouchey7151 Жыл бұрын
Tony Charles servedio is working on the heads and Intake on his KZbin channel.
@dougspicer7443
@dougspicer7443 Жыл бұрын
What’s the best way to best seal all you pan gaskets?
@jjtool5800
@jjtool5800 Жыл бұрын
So do they have to use stock 318 cam
@eddieb4227
@eddieb4227 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you use a 4 barrel intake from the 74-75 Volare station wagon?
@daviddavid5880
@daviddavid5880 8 ай бұрын
This might seem like a stupid question, but could this low compression conundrum be solved with a couple of pounds of forced induction? Thanks.
@Piledriver.
@Piledriver. Жыл бұрын
How much lightness did you add to Plan Z with this round of cutting?
@bigbad253
@bigbad253 Жыл бұрын
How long does a busy workshop stay clean and tidy??? About ten minutes...
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