Drawabox Lesson 1, Exercise 9: Rotated Boxes

[@Uncomfortable]

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[@hannobonanoart]

It makes me sad a lot of comments seem negative or pessimistic about learning this stuff, if it isn’t hard you aren’t learning. Any single thing you are interested in being an expert in will be just as hard, probably harder. Does that mean you’ll quit? Or does that mean it’s okay to dissuade new students from doing a hard exercise solely based off of your lack of patience and trust in your own abilities?? Stop being impatient, you aren’t going to get it the first time or even the 30th. Trust yourself, take your time, and you can learn anything. I know you can 🥰 and i know i can too! Screw the negative comments and focus on this one to the people who come here after me: you’ve got this!! Challenges are what make life interesting and satisfying, never stop craving to learn. You are amazing getting this far now let’s go all the way! I know how hard it is to learn by yourself! Don’t be discouraged. You can do this and so can I.

[@l..3736]

thank you. My best wishes to u

[@sol_mental]

People complaining this is hard never opened a blender scene xD that is hard. This is very relaxing, specially coming from any 3D work xD

[@hannobonanoart]

@@sol_mental such facts 🤣

[@Bounts_]

Thanks for posting this.

[@jobrown8146]

I'm very thankful for the very details explanations in both written and video format. Also that it's free. I don't want to get official drawing lessons because when I see someone do something really good it discourages me. I like that Uncomfortable explains why were are doing things and that it isn't necessarily going to be perfect.

[@uwuishi]

I just want to declare my love to your method and exercises. Last month I was taking a cource on sketching and there were a couple of exercises on hand-drawn perspective, but I am not quite confident in my skills yet. So now when it's finished I polish everything I have learnt and practiced, and your videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you a lot

[@Uncomfortable]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@LaLaObeRoT]

I fully agree. Even lesson 1 has catapulted my brain onto a completely different level, when it comes to projecting 3D shapes onto a 2D Plane. Feels awesome.

[@heron619]

The difficulty curve spike at Step 8 is crazy when he speeds up! it legit feels like the "Draw the rest of the owl" meme. I had to put it on 0.25X to see understand what he was doing.

[@user-ml4ir6bf4h]

Same exact thing I did. He also has another video where he talks specifically about how to estimate rotation but it also only goes through the easier examples of the beginning boxes. If this video is updated, I'd suggest spending a little bit of time on the additional boxes as, at least in my experience, the ones out from the center are harder to understand.

[@RH-nk7eo]

He makes a point at least 3 times to say that *this is hard* and *don't worry if you don't get it*. The entire lesson starts with "This is going to be the first major exposure to something I do sometimes with my lesson's exercises: assigning tasks that are not necessarily going to be within your current ability to complete. " and yes people still complain that this is hard.

[@linnhtetyan2283]

Feels like you've encountered the boss on level 1

[@girishkrishna4654]

😀Exactly. Hope u figured it out.

[@thefinal1754]

This looks really fun to do! Can't wait to do it tommorow!

[@chiuaua2235]

Its not.

[@saske4211]

I feel its super easy now😭❤️ I am truly grateful for the treasure you offer us especially for people who cannot afford the cost of a course. In any case I would choose you even if I could afford to pay.

[@SCARRIOR]

Why thank him? Plenty of people have been doing this for free since 2008, he is just capitalising on offering it for free, which many other people have done before, the only gimmick in this, is he is well known. I agree some of his tutorials are fantastic, but since google has pretty much hidden any videos made before 2021, there has been many great, even better tutorials available. He does make plenty of mistakes though, especially with this exercise. You should be using curvilinear perspective for this exercise, otherwise you get a wonky sphere.

[@moltenlefty92]

I can't wait to get to the point where this feels super easy because this feels daunting right now 😭🙏🏽

[@artbreather]

Hello Irshad ! Firstly, I want to convey a big thanks to you for creating this well thought out free fundamental course. It's a great gift to the art community. I am really getting visible results from this course. Secondly, it's good to see that you're still dedicatedly improving an already well designed course. :) I was starting out with lesson 3 after completing the previous ones, but this corrected narrative compelled me to redo this hard exercise again for better brain rewiring ! Best wishes !

[@robyn717]

The section from 8:38 to 10:55 had me really confused, so if anyone else is having a hard time, this is how I interpret it. Essentially drawing the edges as parallel isn't technically correct, but it's close enough that no one would really be able to tell. The talk about angles and convergences really had me lost, but I think that's just the in-depth stuff. ^^;

[@scroptels]

if you know how to draw ellipses as guides for the placement of the cubes you would not be struggling as much, because you're basically drawing a sphere but with boxes, the fact he explained this to beginners before getting into ellipses it's really bad imo.

[@LuanArita123rs]

To draw two boxes, ideally you'll use the same vanishing point(s) for both of them. What he's showing is that by drawing the edges parallel to the first box, you're just shifting the second box's vanishing point slightly to the right, which is, in theory, incorrect. However, for this exercise it's a good enough approximation. That's basically it

[@bexbexbex11]

So far, I've really enjoyed this course as a complete beginner and had no problem accepting that I won't do things well or anywhere near perfectly. This exercise I found very frustrating simply because there is no effort to slow down and show clearly how to construct the boxes at the corners. I have no expectation I'd be able to execute it well but since there's no effort to explain it step-by-step, I don't even know what I'm supposed to be doing. There's clearly a method to do this so I don't understand why it isn't shown in enough detail for beginners to attempt to grasp it. I've watched that section several times and at slow speed as well as the video on rotation. I'd strongly recommend showing the construction of a box in the corner slowly and explaining it if you want students to learn this to the best of their ability.

[@wankachalawea]

I think you're supposed to figure it out yourself.

[@bexbexbex11]

@@wankachalawea Kind of defeats the purpose of taking a course.

[@selfishpromotion2895]

man that thumbnail really fits well for how I feel right about now (in a good way)

[@mavrickindigo]

I really can't wrap my head aroudn those corner boxes.

[@Treasure-bl3cn]

the problem is, i really don't get how you did the box in min 14:00 i wish you would have showed us this ina slow moment.

[@kdsinger1287]

At 11:31, Can Someone Explain to me, How do i estimate the two POINTS He is Placing (at what basis),, Again saying -> the LAST two points at the BACK of the BOX, plese😢 Help me I am stucked here Since 2 days, I have to move on 😭🙏

[@NinoMiletich]

So the way I understood it is this: You already have enough information to "predict" where the point will be. So "ghost" the extension of one edge towards some imagined vanishing point (you use your other edges to imagine/guess where that vanishing point is, by seeing how they converge). You do the same for the other vanishing point. You can then guesstimate where those ghost lines would intersect. It's similar to the 2 point perspective exercise, except you're eyeballing & free-handing, instead of using a ruler. In the other video about estimating rotations, he talks a bit about building intuition for how vanishing points "slide", so you can kinda use that to help re-position the dots if you notice you misjudged where the points are (ie are they too steeply angled, or too parallel, or vice versa). I realise this short explanation makes the process sound simpler than it actually is. I'm personally also struggling with executing this a bit; some of the "angled" boxes end up a bit misaligned due to my vertex placement mistakes. cc @Uncomfortable let me know if this explanation is wrong, and I'll remove the comment once you post a follow up reply!

[@Uncomfortable]

Have you taken a look at the "Estimating Rotation" video that goes into those decisions in more detail? You'll find it linked in the lesson material here: drawabox.com/lesson/1/21/estimatingrotation

[@Jedapoo]

OK, at 0.25 speed it's much easier to understand. Protip: turn the paper so the corners are angled up. Treat them the same way you did the sides, building boxes off the edge. The only difference is you now have two pre-existing boxes to help you find the new sides of that last box.

[@Zukeenyx007]

It seems helpful to consider, that once rotated and the vanishing point becomes finite, you don't need to do the "halfway" thing anymore. I was trying to do this whilst also pulling my vanishing point in much too close.

[@Phoquehead]

the amount of rotating from 14:00 onwards makes this ****ing impossible to follow or get a good grasp on what is even going on. its easy to understand the 3rd box but then you go to the corner box and completely lose what is going on there is no time taken when that corner box deserves a segment all of its own...

[@marcoruggiero7279]

literally speedrunned in the most diffucult spot

[@paige4079]

can anyone tell me again/in different words what the 4 boxes on the outside of the paper are for?

[@kubzos]

Out of all the hobbies i had to pick a fucked up one like this. I love my luck.

[@nightingaleheart]

yeah fucked up but very rewarding if you keep at it. good luck.

[@hannobonanoart]

You’ve got this babe, don’t let a box get you down you are the box master

[@kubzos]

@@hannobonanoart when i die and go to hell i'll find the person responsible for creating that 250 box challenge and 100 chest challenge and i'll force them to draw boxes for eternity.

[@onii9533]

@@kubzosyo chill😂😂

[@DrawingSources-wm9zu]

Everything was going ok until Step 6, really confusing how to calculate the other points to form the box, I remembered a rule I read from a perspective book that perspective lines slant up and down and that's how I calculated the angles.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Gotta Rotate to Procreate! Also sidenote. I love the energy of the drawing in the thumbnail.

[@ayushmachaudhary7322]

I just don't get it when I have to add more boxes . 😢

[@dasnooter8587]

Step 9: Draw the rest of the owl

[@Whitepandemic]

I did. With out a Stutter and did it again later as a warm up.

[@RH-nk7eo]

You have learned the logic. You don't need hand holding to complete the pattern.

[@tynce563]

This exercise felt a lot like "finding the board in the log" from Surfs Up to me. XD I could see each box in there, I just had to carve it out.

[@PDocDanny]

Yeah I just can't do this right now. I don't have a ruler currently and I imagine the beginning setup is very important. This is like when I got to Genichiro in Sekiro. This represents such a jump in difficulty and me actually having to learn how to do things. I can't bullshit anything (I've been trying not to bullshit things up to now, I just don't trust myself [I may have bullshitted on accident]). You say something like "estimate where the vanishing point moves to." That seems too simple. I seriously just eyeball it? I guess we've got the duplicated plane pushing us in the right direction? 11:20 to like 13:02 was very difficult to understand. Had to listen to that a few times. Putting subtitles on helps. I really have to focus on every individual word you say because there's a lot to consider all at once. Also the visuals, editing, and voiceover are at slightly different rhythms. Idk how else this part could have been edited to be understandable and snappy but it is something I had to rewatch. That's not the worst thing in the world. When binging drawabox content I find it easy to start dozing off in the sea of new info. Getting confused is an alright way to snap me back into actually paying attention. From this, I could easily fall back into the all-too-familiar pattern of self-hatred cause I'm not better at learning, but I'm gonna instead believe in something much more actionable: this is HARD. How do I respond to this? I get better. It's gonna suck. It's gonna suck bad. But it's gotta happen. You only truly fail when you give up (which is not the same thing as taking a break, btw). You don't HAVE to take a fundamentals course in order to draw, but you owe it to yourself to at least try it if it's something that interests you. I'm gonna get a ruler and do this another time. I gotta work in the 50% rule anyways.

[@Uncomfortable]

One trick I learned back in elementary school was that in the absence of a ruler, you can take a piece of paper and fold it over several times to produce a hard edge (where the fold occurs), which is generally enough to serve as a functional straight edge. As to the "estimate where the vanishing point moves to", this is something we 'eyeball' (the course as a whole is about learning to estimate perspective rather than one on strict technical linear perspective, where we develop our underlying spatial reasoning skills so as to improve the reliability of those estimations), but the video that follows this one on the website specifically focuses more closely on estimating rotation, as you'll see here: drawabox.com/lesson/1/21/estimatingrotation so we don't dwell on it as much in this video to avoid overburdening the student all at once - at least as much as we're able to avoid it anyway. And yes, this is hard. This exercise in particular (and the one after it) serves to introduce a problem - a problem we then address to some extent in the box challenge, and then further throughout the rest of the course. We don't shy away from assigning tasks to students when they're not necessarily capable of completing them successfully (which is something we stress back in Lesson 0), if we find that they help provide a greater sense of direction and lead students to applying the later material in the way that we intend. This causes some students grief to be sure, but it's not because they're somehow incapable of learning - it's because traditional academics has drilled into our minds the idea that you have to be able to do something successfully when it comes up, and that you shouldn't move on until you do. That is not an approach to which we subscribe. Sometimes it helps to go back and rewatch the video from Lesson 0 Page 3, which goes over the principles we follow.

[@leonliptak]

last time i quit when i got to this exercise. not this time.

[@Ak75sa]

Should we crosshatch at the end like you did?

[@Uncomfortable]

As with the other box exercises, it's up to you. If you do decide to add it though, don't be sloppy about it. If we make the choice to add something, we should always take care to do it to the best of our current ability.

[@dustinblankx188]

*dies inside*

[@TheViviDam]

4:47 Tip to facilitate the cross on the sheet instead of measuring with the ruler the sheet Voce will do the following thing, join the top and bottom right with the top and bottom left of the sheet and fold it firmly on both sides, leaves a mark on the sheet, then unfold and speed up the process this time with the bottom of the sheet join the bottom left and right side to the top left and right side and with that just draw the cross on the sheet

[@diegomax5146]

step 8 onwards is making me very confused, I can't complete it x.x

[@quinintheclouds]

I'm still stuck on step 6 lol, can't figure out how he's deciding where to place the dots :P Maybe the next vid in this exercise will make it clearer

[@erikhambardzumyan1970]

Thanks for the great video! I am confused regarding the placement on red vanishing point at 9:45 from my understanding if the green rotates to become red the red point is actually going further away to the left of the green point, while in the illustration it's on the right. Let me know I miss something here

[@E8oL4]

I think the exercise is meant to be somewhat puzzling :) Don't worry about it, just try to do it. You don't even have to do it well. Mine looks a bit shitty, but I learned a ton about how to find vanishing points :D (thats part of the puzzle)

[@breadifies2800]

Did a double take because I swore I watched this video a week ago lol. What was the original narration error?

[@Uncomfortable]

Same as in the estimating rotation video. Vanishing points decelerate/accelerate based on whether they're moving towards the center of the composition or towards infinity. I got the directions reversed and stated the opposite of what is correctly explained in earlier box section videos.

[@tubewatcher117]

@@Uncomfortable I have to say thanks, for constantly correcting mistakes, and improving your method. That's got to take a lot of work.

[@Karina-winsmore]

I didnt understood a single thing. It was even worse then rough perspective homework, im gonna scream. The fact that you went into super sayan speed at step 8 only made things significantly worse. I hate boxes, i want to destroy them all with a mighty waraxe.

[@Cloudcrab44]

This is like Minecraft house building tutorials 😭

[@eliseintheattic9697]

Glad to see I'm not the only one completely confused about this exercise. 😂

[@stesproject]

I can't complete this exercise. Should I give up the course or I can skip this?

[@Uncomfortable]

Admittedly, I was watching you discuss this with Azrie on our discord chat server. You really need to take it to heart when I say that this is not an exercise that you're going to feel confident in completing, or that is going to come out correctly. It's not a challenge, or something to make people feel better - it is a fact. This exercise depends on skills and spatial reasoning understanding that I don't expect you to have just yet. Instead, it serves the purpose of planting a seed and helping define how you will think about 3D space as we move through the later sections of the course that actually develop those skills. You are not expected to be able to do it correctly right now. You're just expected to do your best - and that means doing what you can to understand what's in front of you right now, and then making the decision of moving forward despite your understanding not being complete. Allow yourself to make mistakes. This - the fact that we don't only use exercises as tools for direct teaching, but also for shaping the way you engage with the concepts in the long term - alongside with the 50% rule from Lesson 0, are some of the most challenging things about this course. But they also are key aspects of how we operate, and how we teach. You need to trust in that, and allow yourself to commit to a choice with the information and understanding you currently have (in the sense that drawing a stroke and committing to an edge is a choice). It's okay to do things wrong - but if you allow yourself to be paralyzed and *not* make a choice for fear of it being wrong, then you're blocking yourself off from taking that next necessary step.

[@stesproject]

@@Uncomfortable thank you very much! Eventually I completed the exercise 🥰I struggled a lot placing diagonal points and all those lines made me very confused at the end. But I did it at my best 🙂 Thank you!

[@hejhejhej952]

@@stesproject Good job man!

[@SuPeRg4meCrAfT]

is the pull of warmups a tool in the site or I should make one myself?

[@Uncomfortable]

It's meant to be something to manage yourself, although a student did make a rough tool for it that you'll find here: mark-gerarts.github.io/draw-a-card/

[@SuPeRg4meCrAfT]

@@Uncomfortable thanks a lot

[@decoyCoyote]

Thank you so much for crafting these lessons and creating these videos!

[@sulynncho9299]

14:15 how to draw corners

[@crediblesalamander8056]

this is the first time i've been tempted to restart the exercise. i fucked up the first few steps so catastrophically that drawing the rest just seems impossible. im gonna push through, but i need a tiny break.

[@emidio_art]

Hi Karim!Im following this lessons i draw from years but this Is helpful to restart with basic foundamentals. But i struggle to understand this videos im an idiot LOL can i do this things without a lot of guide, Lines, that 4 Square, i can do this free Hand or i'll loose the exercise concept?Thank u ♥️♥️♥️

[@Uncomfortable]

Having a language barrier issue does not make one an idiot, and based on your comment I expect that is more the source of your concern. Although more than that, the material is itself is not easy to grasp even for those who are completely proficient in English. That said, I unfortunately don't understand your question. Can you try rephrasing it, or perhaps asking it in your native language?

[@emidio_art]

@@Uncomfortable hi, I simply wanted to do everything freehand since I was bored preparing the pattern and other things with a ruler. BUT update: I'm currently doing exactly as said in the tutorials and everything is fine and I have assimilated the concept, so problem solved. Sorry for the horribly written comment lol, have a goodday :)

[@Elle-gc6fh]

To summarize, you're drawing a sphere made up of flat-topped pyramids all pointing to the center. So, visualize the vanishing point where the center of the sphere would be if it were 3-D. Is that correct?

[@Uncomfortable]

The result is a series of truncated pyramids pointing towards a shared center, but I would strongly advise you against trying to simplify the exercise into focusing on whatever approach will achieve that result. The exercise itself is in the process we use, and the hurdles it has our brains jumping through. There are many ways to achieve a result, but what you get out of them may differ. One approach may teach you more about one thing, another approach may have benefits towards an entirely different area, and another approach may still get you the result but ultimately impart you with little.

[@frosty1901]

For the initial line and boxes, what should their measurement be? I read and listened but I couldn't see it. I am guessing/estimating that the initial box is 1 inch on each side, and then the 4 "side boxes" would be slightly less. The lines (of the "T") would then be 2.25 inches? Or perhaps it does not need to be so precise. It just felt a bit like I should measure out the framework as accurately as I could. Thank you so much for your videos!!

[@Uncomfortable]

It really doesn't need to be so precise. If we don't mention such things in the material, then you can be fairly assured that it doesn't actually matter.

[@frosty1901]

Thank you so much!! I appreciate your prompt response

[@Evie_Ruby]

The plane oriented towards us is perfectly perpendicular to the viewer's angle of sight, so its horizontals and verticals run towards infinite vanishing points, leaving only the lines that recede through the depth of the scene to converge towards a single vanishing point. there simply cannot be a very large angle between them where they converge at the vanishing point. It's all about the angle at which they meet when converging. One edge might be closer to the vanishing point, and the other farther, while still having a fairly small angle between them.

[@ngegamesantai_]

I did some mistakes in the beginning. But once I got the grip of it, it's actually a quite fun exercise

[@Aditya_Dhakad]

Plzz Sir, can u explain this line in a SIMPLER language "There are only as many vanishing points as there are sets of edges that are parallel to one another in 3d Space" My mind is NOT getting the PROPER meaning of it (i can use translater BUT, I wish u to EXPLAIN in a simpler language FUNCTIONALLY that what is the MEANING of WHAT u wanna say🙏🙏)

[@Aditya_Dhakad]

there may be some english mistakes SRY for that, iam from india and don't know mush Grammer🙂🙂

[@Uncomfortable]

​@@Aditya_Dhakad If this is the concept you're getting stuck on, this video is not the place to seek clarification. This is covered in more detail in the material on this page: drawabox.com/lesson/1/7 (including the video at the top). In essence though, a normal box is made up of 12 edges, but those 12 edges can be broken up into 3 sets, with 4 edges each, each oriented in a different direction. Within a given set, all 4 edges are parallel to one another. So each box is in other words made up of edges going in 3 possible directions. That's what gives us 3 vanishing points. Each vanishing point rules over one of these sets. What I was saying before, with "there are only as many vanishing points as there are sets of edges that are parallel to one another in 3D space", means that the number of vanishing points in a scene depends on how many different directions your edges are pointing in. If you've only got edges oriented in one direction, all parallel to one another, you've only got 1 vanishing point to worry about. If you have a whole complex scene with many different objects with edges running in many different directions, you have *many* different vanishing points - not just 1, 2, or 3. Anyway, go through the material I linked above. Note that this content is part of a larger course that is intended to be followed in order, from the beginning, so jumping into it in the middle of the course will inevitably result in confusion, language barrier or no.

[@Aditya_Dhakad]

@@Uncomfortable Thank You So much, I will keep in mind to READ all the details mentioned in the wesite, but your explanation is So helpful😌

[@georgelongcoal1117]

Thank you for this course. Due to social anxiety among other things, I won't get my work reviewed (And I know this is self-sabotage), but this course is really helping me gain a new perspective on drawing, and get my basics way better, with an impressive improvement compared to previous times I tried other online courses on my own. If I get to the end, I hope I will be able to comment in whichever video is in lesson 7 (although I will be taking some human shape/structure courses in between the challenges to try my hand drawing some characters I like while doing this challenge, since otherwise I might burnout. Any recommendations?)

[@Uncomfortable]

Recommendations are tricky for me, because I learned figure drawing from an in-person course taught by Kevin Chen at Concept Design Academy (Analytical Figure Drawing). Outside of what I used myself, I haven't really had a ton of time to explore other learning materials, due to most of my time being focused on developing Drawabox - the only ones I did go through in more detail was some of those offered by our sponsor, New Masters Academy. It was kind of fortuitous that I happened to find a course there, Steve Huston's Art Anatomy for Beginners, that basically used the same approach Kevin Chen had taught me, so I was very pleased to recommend to students (I believe I mention it on the first page of Lesson 0), but of course there's a caveat - NMA is our sponsor, so you'd have to take that recommendation with a grain of salt.

[@georgelongcoal1117]

@@Uncomfortable Thank you very much for the recommendation I will save it and probably look it up down the line once I am done with lesson 1!

[@lukinkoo]

There are several traps here. First, we are not drawing "boxes", he actually shows it at the beginning of the video. And still, he calls it "boxes". Second, squint your eyes and look at the picture. What do you see? Ellipsises. Circle. In real life, we would actually start with that and put there the forms later but this exercise is really pushing us. The last thing, you must realize how many these forms makes half of the "sphere" on "equatorial" and that is 5. Hopefully this helps to understand it more.

[@msrphlegmier]

Gah! This one is killing me.

[@preetisingh4929]

I procrastinated boxes a lot . I was able to do it but it took a lot of time and concentration.. In the ellipses ghosting method really didn't worked for me. Instead of using ghosting method i need to draw an ellipse propeely idc if its wobbly then i increased my speed to get the proper proportions.. i did this rotated box excercise today it wasnt that confusing for me all i was messed up with measurements still it came iut pretty well.. I am glad that I came to the drawbox i want to know my capabilities how far i can reach with my drawing skills (rn in developing mode).. I am happy so far coz I think i am learning something

[@Catastrophe699]

The thumbnail is hilarious

[@YoneKenway]

Made me think hard about why after rotating the box horizontally and vertically it was so difficult. When entering extreme box rotation, the box is distorted and not aligned :)

[@crazyboi14dz]

Give me a high five, pals

[@woohs]

why speed up at step 8? purposely making it difficult is a weird teaching strategy

[@biancasilva363]

After two weeks i finally understand it 😅

[@PDocDanny]

I cannot imagine how this leads to me being able to draw. I guess it does though. It all sounds so out of my abilities as a human being; I don't think I'm smart enough for this. I guess I'm not at a point where I need to know everything yet, but I don't see myself ever reaching that point. This just sounds like stuff I can't know. That's negativity talking. Gonna have to stick with this course.

[@Evie_Ruby]

There are only as many vanishing points as there are sets of edges that are parallel to one another in 3d space. When artists use 4,5 and even 6 vanishing points to create a grid, they're actually going beyond core principles of 3d space to achieve a particular stylistic effect. Box is note a cube. Box is any rectilinear form where the edges meet at a 90 degree angle. Taper the form as it recedes from the viewer. Review how to hold pen + drawing elipses in boxes + drawing elipses in funnels tmr

[@manifest5768]

Ah, that's one fine looking exercise. *looks down at paper* WHY DOESN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT

[@Uncomfortable]

:P Perhaps the introduction that explained that this exercise is quite difficult, and that we don't expect students to be able to nail it, might have something to offer in regards to that question.

[@poopadoopalis]

@@Uncomfortablehow do you make a beginners course and introduce an exceedingly difficult topic in the beginning, then get pissy and sarcastic with students for not understanding? The problem is that your course is clearly badly designed, not with the students.

[@zarazaki]

17:55

[@mirlindthedon]

☠️

[@MartinVillanueva-z4w]

Lol I remember the video where he didn’t even show us how to create the boxes just did the first half and threw us to the wolves. People in here are complaining, but yet he is LITERALLY showing us how to do it now. idk why people are so upset get good

[@a.busertor]

14:01

[@sulynncho9299]

12:24

[@Karina-winsmore]

I still dont understand anything.

[@amanda0artist]

I put it on .25 speed and him turning the page was still a blur and made me lose track of what was happening. Lesson not compatible with ADHD.

[@Takeda-nc3sx]

WHAT THE HELLL I CANNOT DO THIS ANYMOREE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@chiuaua2235]

What kinda of course is this where the teacher don't give measures? instructions unclear. No wonder views only go down.

[@جعفرناظم-ف9ز]

اني اسمي جعفر احب الرسم ههههاااييي

[@abenanaziamado9784]

24 attempts... it's a failure but I continue

[@Uncomfortable]

If you made 24 attempts then that suggests you aren't following the instructions for the course. This exercise is expected to be very difficult - we ask students to do their best at trying it and following all the instructions as closely as possible, and then continuing on. It'd be a good idea for you to revisit lesson 0 page 3 which goes over how this course is meant to be used: drawabox.com/lesson/0/3

[@abenanaziamado9784]

@@Uncomfortable thank You very much for those advise

[@laylajameel1836]

@@Uncomfortable that means only 1 work even if turned out bad?

[@Uncomfortable]

@@laylajameel1836 correct. The part of the course I linked in my original reply, to Lesson 0 Page 3, goes over this in detail.

[@muav3]

Imma be real, the instructions are terrible.

[@mirlindthedon]

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[@Akemi-love]

Back in the days, I used to figure it out all by myself. And that was glory. Kids got it easy these days

[@360snipes]

Is it a bad thing to use a great resource to learn how to draw? I can't tell if this comment is meant to be a joke lmao

[@Akemi-love]

@@360snipes ofc it's a joke 💀 You seriously think "glory" is involved? What is this? the middle age? Bro is too sensitive

[@quinintheclouds]

@@Akemi-love you'd be surprised how many people on the internet would comment that unironically not as a joke. They're not being sensitive, just asking for clarification

[@Akemi-love]

@@quinintheclouds oh my god, YES, IT'S A JOKE. IT'S A GODDAMN JOKE, FUNNY, HUMOR, SARCASM. Did I make it clear? I don't know about you but this drawabox community in particular is as sensitive as f**

[@quinintheclouds]

@@Akemi-love idk the community well, but I'm assuming you and this commenter don't know one another, so I can totally get seeing your comment and thinking "wait, is someone seriously upset kids have more resources these days? Why are so many old people are so sensitive about this stuff," much like how you've read the reply and interpreted it as them being sensitive. I read your comment as being in good humor, but it's hard to convey or infer jokes/sarcasm over text sometimes. No need to go after someone's character for asking you to clarify.

[@magnacrushersart572]

Souls games unironically made me better at learning and tackling problems. after learning to put my ego aside and accepting that it would many attempts to be competent.

[@sulynncho9299]

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