Drawabox: The 250 Box Challenge
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Drawabox Lesson 1: Ellipses
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@Takeda-nc3sx
@Takeda-nc3sx 5 сағат бұрын
WHAT THE HELLL I CANNOT DO THIS ANYMOREE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@LorddanSnow-wm4oq
@LorddanSnow-wm4oq 18 сағат бұрын
But whyyyyy stop heeeeeere
@MatthewCaldwell
@MatthewCaldwell 20 сағат бұрын
I definitely feel like I was going from my elbow a lot in the superimposed lines exercise. Maybe tilting my paper less and trying to draw more right to left (left handed) will enforce the shoulder movement more?
@YoneKenway
@YoneKenway 23 сағат бұрын
If I can't do it well yet, can I warm up first? I ask this because I feel a little scared if I do “grinding”.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 16 сағат бұрын
That would indeed constitute grinding, as discussed back in Lesson 0. Keep in mind that the point is not to have you do it well right now. Exercises aren't about short term pay-offs, they're about long-term gains.
@tristan7494
@tristan7494 Күн бұрын
Starting drawabox today. 👍
@bexbexbex11
@bexbexbex11 Күн бұрын
So far, I've really enjoyed this course as a complete beginner and had no problem accepting that I won't do things well or anywhere near perfectly. This exercise I found very frustrating simply because there is no effort to slow down and show clearly how to construct the boxes at the corners. I have no expectation I'd be able to execute it well but since there's no effort to explain it step-by-step, I don't even know what I'm supposed to be doing. There's clearly a method to do this so I don't understand why it isn't shown in enough detail for beginners to attempt to grasp it. I've watched that section several times and at slow speed as well as the video on rotation. I'd strongly recommend showing the construction of a box in the corner slowly and explaining it if you want students to learn this to the best of their ability.
@leanora1953
@leanora1953 2 күн бұрын
i know the point isn’t to have perfect precision, but what exactly goes “wrong” here where the final line doesn’t line up exactly
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 2 күн бұрын
It's an accumulation of little mistakes in lining everything else up correctly (to the end points of other edges, to the VPs, etc.) that ultimately will manifest most obviously when having to solve the final piece of the puzzle that brings it all together. I talk about this in the video at around the 9:00 mark.
@maker2661
@maker2661 2 күн бұрын
For some reason, I have less confidence if I do the ghost lines with the target points This means I gotta keep practicing that part.. Luckily it only happens if I draw the lines in a direction that is more difficult for me
@paularubio4460
@paularubio4460 2 күн бұрын
I just found this course, I'm from Colombia. I'm curious about how to draw from imagination, I don't know how to do that, I'm always looking at a reference picture 😂
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 2 күн бұрын
This section from the written material of the lesson may help with that: drawabox.com/lesson/0/2/ready
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 2 күн бұрын
Drawing the body) 1. Core blocks 2. Middle line (with additional masses that have the middle line running across them) 3. Ellipses where the legs come out 4. Legs (review the sausages part) 5. Reinforce where the legs intersect --> deadline: 3pm Soccer ball (hw) - 1 hour duration --> deadline: 4pm Antennae, ribbing (at least until thorax) --> deadline: 6pm
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 2 күн бұрын
Just a heads up - every time you use the comments on my videos to write your own personal notes, I do get emailed a notification for the new comment. So if you could find somewhere else to save your notes, that would be nice.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 2 күн бұрын
@@Uncomfortable Oop my bad, sorry about that.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 2 күн бұрын
We are not trying to encapsulate the entire head, we are just creating a central building block onto which we can add other forms. We are starting off dead simple.
@vczfwashere
@vczfwashere 2 күн бұрын
I started drawing 8 years ago with Drawabox, and ended up burning out and quitting 2 years ago (long after I had moved on from Drawabox) in large part from the reason described at 7:18. It's not like I didn't try really hard to be creative... I did. I tried again and again, but I did not manage to figure out how to enjoy creating art on my own. Every time I tried to "create" something intentionally, it was pure torture. Sometimes I forced myself through, and ended up happy with the result, but not ever wanting to repeat the process. If I just blanked my mind and aimlessly doodled, I would come up with things that surprised and delighted me, but it was like my creativity was locked inside my subconscious and I couldn't access it directly. I think I've recovered from the trauma, since I have found myself really wanting to make art again. However, my first instinct was, once again, wrong. "Why not go through Drawabox again and make sure my mechanical skills and sense of perspective is tuned up?" That was just the fear talking. Thank you @Uncomfortable for preventing me from going down the same path twice. I don't actually need Drawabox right now. I need the 50% rule and studying the higher-level topics I'm interested in. Well, maybe I can sneak in some warmups.
@TomObungu
@TomObungu 3 күн бұрын
Mr. Uncomfortable, I end up drawing over my ellipse more than two times before lifting my pencil. Is this okay?
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 2 күн бұрын
We recommend students ideally aim to draw through their ellipses two full times, and at most three times. More than that and it gets easy to lose track of the ellipse you intended to create in the first place. This section of the notes goes over this in more detail: drawabox.com/lesson/1/16/drawingthrough
@portadarua1
@portadarua1 3 күн бұрын
learn how to draw while im learning english is tough
@Cieln0va
@Cieln0va 5 күн бұрын
Holy crap, the way you drew that first ellipse after you explained the minor angle thing made me understand on so much of a deeper level. It's like an orbit. Your hand orbits around the centre line before marking the page.
@via_kole
@via_kole 5 күн бұрын
There are many things i want to learn in my life and drawing has always been one of them. I love anime and wish i could make my own illustrations using my own ideas. Luckily i have been using blender for years so my knowledge of lighting, shading, and 3 dimensional space is good however when it comes to putting it down. my hand just.. cant.. This comment leaves a note that this is where i start my journey. I WILL do lessons everyday in the sketchbook i have in front of me. I am confident. I can do this. If anyone sees this months later. feel free to ask me how im doing. I dont get many youtube notifs so i will most likely respond :)
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 5 күн бұрын
Finish details tmr
@BrianIsWatching
@BrianIsWatching 6 күн бұрын
Feels good to get at least a couple of boxes with 4 perfect red lines that all meet the center vanishing point. Although, it feels more like luck than doing it on purpose at this stage.
@chair5613
@chair5613 6 күн бұрын
I do find your instructions on these texture exercises to be a little confusing. I read your note on the website's page on this assignment stating that the examples and demos are outdated and go against some of the things you're trying to emphasize, but I'm not entirely sure which parts do that (does it include this video?). Mainly I'm just struggling to wrap my head around how we're supposed to capture very smooth textures that have little to no cast shadows. For example, the meat section you show in one of the images. Your note says to ignore surface color and focus on the 3D, which leads me to believe that this is one of the old examples you mentioned, but I struggle to see how you could capture this texture without observing the surface colors, as it would just be completely flat otherwise. Are we just meant to ignore textures like these and focus only on ones that do have significant cast shadows, or is there a technique I'm not understanding? Thanks for the work you put in to these. I am learning a lot.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 5 күн бұрын
A textured surface and a smooth surface are, by definition, opposite ends of the spectrum. A perfectly smooth surface wouldn't have any textural forms protruding from the surface to cast shadows - and such a surface does end up getting very reflective as a result, although we're not really getting into that here. The key point to keep in mind is that smooth = no texture. That said, there are surfaces that have very tiny textures along their surface, and meat is one of them. It's made up of fibres, so if you were to zoom into it, you'd see little textural forms layering on top of one another, casting little shadows. While you're right that the choices in this demo weren't really taking textural forms/cast shadows into consideration, technically you can zoom in close enough and still have a useful texture to draw, without regarding local surface colour. Overall though, you can take everything discussed regarding the texture analysis exercise, and treat it as though it supercedes anything discussed here. Furthermore, these reminders from the texture section of Lesson 2 go over how we should be thinking about the textures we're drawing, and the marks we put down to convey them: drawabox.com/lesson/2/2/reminders
@chair5613
@chair5613 5 күн бұрын
@@Uncomfortable Thanks for taking the time to respond. Even though "smooth = no texture" feels like it contradicts "everything has a texture" from the texture analysis page, I do think I understand what you're saying and this is helpful. Thank you.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 6 күн бұрын
20:00
@wisgarus
@wisgarus 7 күн бұрын
While I still catch myself using unoptimal pivot points for drawing, I've been practicing drawing from the shoulder for the past 5 months and the biceps on my right arm are starting to be noticeably more prominent than on my left arm.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 7 күн бұрын
why does he do the legs in that manner instead of thinking about the surface area? 13:57
@rachellove7299
@rachellove7299 7 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you're drawing the back part :( Even if I use a ruler :( Edit: Okay, it's clicked... Took like an hour and a half though lol
@Galatea-y4p
@Galatea-y4p 7 күн бұрын
I've used ballpoint in my 50% rule drawings for a while (I did it because I imitated your method in this video), and I also daw with various mediums such as crayons, markers, and charcoal in the 50% rule. Now, I'm considering using only fineliners for the 50% rule as a way to gradually boost my confidence (the method I use is putting dots as a guide). Is that approach still valid? Additionally, I want to ask a question but I'm not sure who to ask: is the ability to draw directly without pencil or ballpoint sketches (which I use as guidelines), and eventually without reference at all, necessary to improve my skill (quickly)? Thanks a lot, Mr. Uncomfortable.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 7 күн бұрын
Honestly if you're following the course itself, you're gonna be drawing a great deal with fineliners - so I don't specifically think that using fineliners in your 50% rule is necessarily going to have additional benefits. That doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't, but just based on the various goals of the 50% rule, I think that continuing to play with different media, and giving yourself the freedom to draw whatever you're interested in, in whatever way you want, is going to be the best bet. As to your other question, no, not at all. It may make sense if we reverse the question - what specific value does drawing without planning marks/construction/scaffolding/etc add? Well, it makes the performance of drawing a lot more engaging to watch (and those artists who have pushed that kind of drawing into the forefront, primarily Kim Jung Gi, although over the last few years Peter Han and others as well are doing it as a performance). How they got there was by doing a *lot* of drawing with scaffolding/planning/etc. in order to train their spatial reasoning skills (much as we do in this course, doing everything hyper-intentionally so as to rewire the way in which our brain understands 3D space, and how it conveys it on a flat page). In being meticulous in their practice, they *need* those tools less and less when drawing outside of their studies. This in itself has value - the less you're reaching for tools, the fewer steps between your ideas and their manifestation on the page, the easier it is to fall into (and avoid falling out of) a flow state, where we tend to be most creative and productive. This is critical especially for those of us in the concept art industry, where the whole job is to create fresh new designs. But generally we can reach a fairly optimal flow while still having some planning marks involved - they just tend to be looser and less specific, compared to the highly rigid construction you'll see in the later lessons of this course. That's where most stay, because there isn't actually added benefit to using less construction beyond that point - unless, again, your goal is to perform in front of people in which case some people are just more wowed by the complete absence of it. And that right there is likely the source of the question - students find performances like that really impressive, and so they fantasize about being able to do it themselves. But as far as the careers that involve drawing go, it's usually more about what you produce - the ideas you can convey, and how effectively you can execute them - that matter, not specifically how you went about achieving them. Your process matters, but only insofar as it impacts the result. And so, if you're producing something where the end result *has* to be as good as you can make it, there is absolutely no good reason to avoid tools that will benefit you - whether it's construction/planning marks, or reference. You should be using every tool in your arsenal if your goal is to produce work to the best of your current ability. I say *if*, because that isn't always what matters most - and so you always need to go back to considering what it is a piece needs to accomplish, and what will help you achieve that goal best.
@ahuman32478
@ahuman32478 8 күн бұрын
Does drawing from life (stuff around you in 3D space) count as doing a study?
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 7 күн бұрын
In the context of the 50% rule, yes we would view it as an observational study. The main thing we want students doing is taking charge of *what* it is they're drawing - making those decisions themselves. If they ultimately make those decisions and find reference that matches what they're after (and if they can't find them, push forward on their own anyway), then that's fine. But if you're just drawing what you see as it is, then you're not really making those choices for yourself, and so you'd be missing out on much of what play offers.
@ahuman32478
@ahuman32478 7 күн бұрын
@@Uncomfortable So, is the 50% rule meant to make us bring our imagination onto the paper?
@ahuman32478
@ahuman32478 7 күн бұрын
@ Hold on I think I got it. The goal of the 50% rule is to get you used to failing and build a passion for art rather than improving. Is that it? Would trying to get better go against the 50% rule motivations?
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 6 күн бұрын
@@ahuman32478 Not specifically. It is meant to help students disarm their fears by facing them head-on, and to help them worry less about unimportant short-term, superficial gains, so they can do the more difficult things necessary for long-term, meaningful gains.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 6 күн бұрын
@@ahuman32478 Ah shoot, I didn't see this second reply until after I responded to the first - yes, this is more accurate. And yes, trying to get better would defeat the purpose of the 50% rule, because you'd be adding additional requirements when all we're trying to get students to do is draw confidently, and boldly, and **without** having to get something more out of it.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 8 күн бұрын
11:33
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 8 күн бұрын
9:17
@guille_ibanez
@guille_ibanez 8 күн бұрын
I've progressed to lesson 2, but I had to complete an additional 100 boxes because some of the initial 250 did not adhere to the exercise's guidelines. : )
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 8 күн бұрын
4:53
@waffleson45
@waffleson45 8 күн бұрын
Been doing draw a box for 2 months now finished lesson 1 had to go back and redo some homework, ive attained a desk and fine liners now and my art has highly improved, all of you who want to draw you can do it i believe in you! Will update periodically i promise.
@dasty3028
@dasty3028 9 күн бұрын
I just finished the first fifty and I've seen very little improvement from myself specifically on the back corner. It's almost always askew and goes off so far. Do i keep practicing for that? I don't know if it's good to move on when there's such glaring issues.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 9 күн бұрын
Rewatch the first video regarding the box challenge, the "overview" one. It discusses the back corner, and based on your question reviewing it will be beneficial.
@dasty3028
@dasty3028 9 күн бұрын
@ thanks. Will do.
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 9 күн бұрын
Takeaway) Solid forms using contour lines --> construction, relationship between forms
@jensendavis640
@jensendavis640 11 күн бұрын
Uncomfortable cursing was weird :| But thank you so much anyhow
@HungrySquid-z9j
@HungrySquid-z9j 11 күн бұрын
i saw a comment do something like this and thought it was a good idea ( greatestcait thank you) today i truly start my journey as a artist i have been trying but it hasn't been real effort and i spent most of my time goofing off and comparing my self to others and then getting angry with myself for not being as good as them. no more, i hope to improve and see how far i come in a years time.
@abcdefg-hv2ks
@abcdefg-hv2ks 11 күн бұрын
UBlock? Goated
@mathieumichiels9580
@mathieumichiels9580 14 күн бұрын
This is the sentence that made my head spin for days…. “There is the top and bottom of the side plane, which converge towards a vp that is allready towards the centrr of our composition, and gradually sliding to the left towards infinity, and there’s the top and bottom of the back plane, which converge towards the right, like the first two edges we looked at.”
@mathieumichiels9580
@mathieumichiels9580 14 күн бұрын
Shouldnt the back plane be smaler in the box on the right then in the original one? Since these top and bottom edges are converging to a vannishing point that is sliding to the left? In 3d space the backplane is further from us now, so it should shrink, right?
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 14 күн бұрын
There's actually two ways in which things shift in perspective - their overall scale gets smaller, but proportionally they get wider in one dimension. We discuss this in regards to cylinders in the ellipses section, but for this exercise it's actually more distracting to focus on the individual faces and how they change (especially due to the fact that we're not working with cubes, boxes that are necessarily the same size from neighbour to neighbour (that right side box appears to be longer than the center one). Instead, focus on the corners themselves, and the edges that connect them, and how they change. At its core, this exercise is about making use of the neighbouring information (when two edges are close together, the not-entirely-accurate-but-close-enough choice to consider them as being parallel on the page), and then how to look at the changes in the corner positions for the areas we have to estimate without such neighbours to rely upon. It is a complicated and difficult exercise - but go through the instructions and absorb what you can, without getting too hung up on what stumps you. Then, following the steps to the best of your ability, do the exercise, and get feedback on it in our community. The expectation is that most students will struggle a great deal with this exercise, but that in having gone through those struggles, will better understand the problems that we will be targeting going forward. The expectation is not for students to be able to knock this exercise out of the park right now, it's simply a tool to help contextualize what we do next.
@richardramirez9209
@richardramirez9209 14 күн бұрын
Bro needed a sandwich
@TheCrowlex
@TheCrowlex 15 күн бұрын
Gezz.....
@eshal4371
@eshal4371 15 күн бұрын
someone tell me when it starts to get easier and enjoyable T-T
@nicholasmuiseYT
@nicholasmuiseYT 16 күн бұрын
Some recommendations for this video if it ever gets an update. When discussing the different edges toward the end of the video and how they converge, shift to parallel etc as the box is being rotated, try to not rotate the page that you’re drawing on when ghosting your points. That broke my brain trying to reason about the terms I was hearing and connect that visually with what I was seeing. I’d also recommend using some circular highlights or color highlighting on the points and edges when you are calling out specific ones (back, front, side etc.). Had to give this one a few watches to begin somewhat grasping the rules of what is going on for the edges and points during rotations. Thanks for putting together this series!
@rayleighslivers2187
@rayleighslivers2187 16 күн бұрын
3blue1brown video's 'Visualizing quaternions (4d numbers) with stereographic projection' deals with projecting higher dimensions objects to lower dimension. That video makes a nice companion watch to this
@FairFuse
@FairFuse 17 күн бұрын
5:06 I usually don't leave a like on these videos because it feels more like it's only a KZbin video so it could be embedded on the Drawabox website. But this image immediately convinced me to.
@Uncomfortable
@Uncomfortable 17 күн бұрын
Hahaha, that was definitely a good one. As for linking to videos on KZbin as opposed to embeds, we're not sure how that would impact our monetization, and given the limited resources we work with to provide what we do, those aren't really risks we can take as it could interfere with our ability to provide subsidized official critique, manage the community as a whole, and continue updating the lesson material to improve our video and demo content and apply adjustments based on what we learn about students' experiences by providing feedback that help make the lessons more effective.
@m.b.2709
@m.b.2709 17 күн бұрын
04-11-2024. I am ready
@Evie_Ruby
@Evie_Ruby 18 күн бұрын
This is so hard 🤣 I'm genuinely tweaking, but I'm learning a lot!
@Fan_Josh_paro
@Fan_Josh_paro 19 күн бұрын
10:24
@minecraftcomandos8284
@minecraftcomandos8284 19 күн бұрын
Really this is the 250 box challenge? Thanks God
@doleo_metal
@doleo_metal 19 күн бұрын
10:24 foreplay mentioned 😂
@alwayswillbe9355
@alwayswillbe9355 21 күн бұрын
starting : 11/1/2024 i will be back after finishing course to mark date:)
@rahmatbagusss
@rahmatbagusss 21 күн бұрын
ouch my shoulder hurt. guess i need to train by lifting some weight before learn drawing