LeBron GETS EMBARRASSED in GOAT DEBATE

[@AccursedHawk]

The fact that LeBron is obsessed with trying to convince people that he’s the goat while Jordan just let his game and rings do the talking tells me all I need to know

[@cadillackadafi77]

Exactly paying people to get on television to lie and cap for him, constantly talking about it. He’s so pressed, he never will be the goat not even top 10.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs Lebron james has won more playoff Series' than any player in NBA HISTORY Lebron james has been to 10 nba finals. Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones (in a mostly nine team league) have made more nba finals appearances LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER to make the playoffs in 1985, as opposed to 2004. Perfect example is, the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school

[@jarraddahl7527]

Facts! That's one of the reasons lecharmin soft is so unlikeable

[@AccursedHawk]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 ok Lebron

[@kingmeek-wv2gu]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889Relax lil sis because no one cares

[@orinocoPL]

Any debate was killed after 2011 finals. Period.

[@DomzTunes]

Thank you! I’ve been saying this for a WHILE.

[@makofett7404]

And when Kyrie won and took the game winning shot in 2016 Finals. Why do you think Queen James ran back to Cleveland. If they didnt have a team setup he wouldve went elsewhere.

[@hfsutsu5sggd75e2]

Nah bron still the goat

[@orinocoPL]

@hfsutsu5sggd75e2 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 good joke

[@orinocoPL]

@hfsutsu5sggd75e2 good joke

[@Guiltless765]

LeFlop isn't even the goat at his position.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

AMEN!!!

[@EternalStud1969]

Loved this comment bro

[@Shapoopka]

Open yo eyes lil bro

[@JayJay-kc4dn]

​@@Shapoopkalol get your covitt mask off it's 2025.. sheepie

[@sentienceRemains]

he ain’t ever been a goat of even a singular calendar year

[@trevorlambert4226]

Anyone declaring himself as the greatest is cringeworthy.

[@makofett7404]

Amen

[@JohnDoe-gf5he]

Unless you're Muhammad Ali trying to create a character and sell a fight like WWE.

[@jivet3919]

@@JohnDoe-gf5he Go look up Muhammad Ali

[@arcticjoe5532]

Yeah, he can make you sick, especially like the time that he named himself one of his top 5 favorite players. I've never heard of anyone whose head was that massive.

[@whatmakesmesane]

FACTS!

[@rahiemthomas5617]

As an NBA Fan.. It’s embarrassing to put him above Kobe, let alone Michael Jordan… If anything, Lebron will be remembered as the greatest “team hopper” of all time

[@StoneCold2k57]

Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time        1. Michael Jordan        2. LeBron James        3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar        4. Magic Johnson   5. Larry Bird 6. Shaquille O'Neal        7. Tim Duncan        10. Steph Curry   14. Kobe Bryant                Bleacher report has Kobe #14   When it's all said & done, this isn't even going to be a debate     LeBron vs Kobe:    Regular season: Playoffs:   PPG: LeBron PPG: LeBron   RPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron   APG: LeBron APG: LeBron   SPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron   FG%: LeBron FG%: LeBron   3pt%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron   FT%: Kobe FT%: Kobe  TS%: LeBron TS%: LeBron  PER: LeBron PER: LeBron  MVPs: LeBron Win Shares:   Win Shares: LeBron   LeBron. Plus/Minus:  Plus/Minus: LeBron   LeBron Rings: Kobe   WS/48: Finals Mvps:  LeBron LeBron    LeBron is a better player then Kobe    Field goal%  LeBron 50.6%✔️  Kobe 44.7%    Points scored   LeBron 40,474✔️  Kobe 33,643    LeBron 1st all time points   Kobe 1st all time missed shots    3pointers made career   LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)  Kobe 1827    Steals career   LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)  Kobe 1,944    Blocks career   LeBron 1,111✔️  Kobe 640    Assists Leader   LeBron 1✔️  Kobe 0    Defensive win shares   LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)  Kobe 50.66    Career highs   Kobe 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record     Career highs  LeBron 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record     Playoff points scored  LeBron 8,162✔️ (1st all time)  Kobe 5,640    Playoff game winning buzzers beaters   LeBron 5✔️  Kobe 1    2010 NBA finals   Game 7  Lakers 83 Celtics 79  Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points     2013 NBA finals   Game 7  Heat 95 Spurs 88  LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points     2000 NBA finals   Lakers 4 Pacers 2  Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs  Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings     Kobe 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14    2011 NBA playoffs   Mavericks 4 Lakers 0  Dallas swept Kobe Bryant who was favorite to win series with home court advantage

[@gizmothesquirrel9094]

​@StoneCold2k57 dude ...this ain't about kobe. You trolling bot

[@KommieKaze]

@@StoneCold2k57 me when I bot because I have no decent comeback

[@KommieKaze]

And the worst part is KD gets more flak for doing the same thing although it was already a stacked lineup before he was a part of it.

[@MichaelSmith-bt8jq]

The True GOAT wouldn’t go to Diddy parties

[@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948]

you don't know that. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he and most celebrities/stars did.

[@gorda2363]

Bravo za komentar…

[@jwilcollective816]

​@@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948 There's actual footage of LeBron James at a Diddy party turning tf up lol. I saw it awhile ago. But he was just vibing to the music. No telling what happened after the cameras went off though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@theSANDMAN366]

Never was a debate

[@MasonAbe]

The Athletic top 10 best NBA players all time      1. Michael Jordan      2. LeBron James      3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar      4. Bill Russell      5. Magic Johnson      6. Wilt Chamberlain      7. Larry Bird      8. Shaquille O'Neal      9. Tim Duncan      10. Kobe Bryant             Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time         PPG: LeBron           RPG: LeBron           APG: LeBron           SPG: LeBron           BPG: LeBron           FG%: LeBron           3pt%: LeBron           FT%: Kobe           TS%: LeBron           PER: LeBron           WS/48: LeBron           VORP: LeBron           MVP's: LeBron           FMVP's: LeBron           Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)                    LeBron better player then Kobe                     Field goal%          LeBron 50.6%✔️          Kobe 44.7%                    Points scored career          LeBron 40,474✔️ (1st all time)          Kobe 33,643                    LeBron 1st all time points           Kobe 1st all time missed shots                     Total 3pointers made          LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,827                    Total Steals career          LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,944                    Total Blocks career           LeBron 1,111✔️          Kobe 640                    Defensive win shares           LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)          Kobe 50.66                    Assists Leader           LeBron 1✔️          Kobe 0                    Career highs          Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record                     Career highs           LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record                    Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters           LeBron 5✔️          Kobe 1                    2010 NBA finals           Game 7          Lakers 83 Celtics 79          Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points                     2013 NBA finals           Game 7          Heat 95 Spurs 88          LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points                     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings                    2011 NBA playoffs           Mavericks 4 Lakers 0          Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series                    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings                     Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

[@anthonydouglas4200]

@@MasonAbe😂 and who cared more about winning who never choked games who never ran from the last shot who cared about the integrity of competition. One has taco Tuesday one has a generation saying his name to empower there shot.

[@ThaRealElementX]

​@@MasonAbe This guy is a clown. Just posted hella numbers with no context as to how he got the numbers or what makes those numbers even impressive in the first place 😂🤡

[@ArmedandDangerous918]

Tony Snell > Michael Jordan

[@stavrospavlides2093]

@@anthonydouglas4200 amen

[@JohnDoe-gf5he]

Jordan was one of the biggest winners and competitors across all sports of all times. LeBron is weak and soft as bread pudding in comparison.

[@RobertSchuster68]

But for more than 2 decades LeBoom is the goat-party-friend of P-Diddys FreakOffs 😂 it's over

[@rahiemthomas5617]

When you left Cleveland to play with the best players in the league *(taking “the easy route” to win championships)….* you excluded yourself from the goat debate.

[@andyjones3304]

And yet despite all of that only won 2 in Miami.

[@CJHAN-w8g]

and he said he had never been in a superteam

[@ThaRealElementX]

​@@andyjones3304"Not 3, not 4, not 5!" 😂😅 He was a clown for bigging himself up and failed as hard as he did.

[@cadillackadafi77]

Then when he became a third option sidekick behind Chris Bosh in 2011 averaged a embarrassing 17 points per game that killed the goat debate right there

[@TruthSeeker-v2o]

@@andyjones3304 The Athletic top 10 best NBA players all time      1. Michael Jordan      2. LeBron James      3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar      4. Bill Russell      5. Magic Johnson      6. Wilt Chamberlain      7. Larry Bird      8. Shaquille O'Neal      9. Tim Duncan      10. Kobe Bryant             Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time         PPG: LeBron           RPG: LeBron           APG: LeBron           SPG: LeBron           BPG: LeBron           FG%: LeBron           3pt%: LeBron           FT%: Kobe           TS%: LeBron           PER: LeBron           WS/48: LeBron           VORP: LeBron           MVP's: LeBron           FMVP's: LeBron           Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)                    LeBron better player then Kobe                     Field goal%          LeBron 50.6%✔️          Kobe 44.7%                    Points scored career          LeBron 40,474✔️ (1st all time)          Kobe 33,643                    LeBron 1st all time points           Kobe 1st all time missed shots                     Total 3pointers made          LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,827                    Total Steals career          LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,944                    Total Blocks career           LeBron 1,111✔️          Kobe 640                    Defensive win shares           LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)          Kobe 50.66                    Assists Leader           LeBron 1✔️          Kobe 0                    Career highs          Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record                     Career highs           LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record                    Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters           LeBron 5✔️          Kobe 1                    2010 NBA finals           Game 7          Lakers 83 Celtics 79          Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points                     2013 NBA finals           Game 7          Heat 95 Spurs 88          LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points                     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings                    2011 NBA playoffs           Mavericks 4 Lakers 0          Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series                    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings                     Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

[@FUh_Que_-]

Lebron is the greatest... steroid consumer in NBA history

[@MasonAbe]

The Athletic top 10 best NBA players all time      1. Michael Jordan      2. LeBron James      3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar      4. Bill Russell      5. Magic Johnson      6. Wilt Chamberlain      7. Larry Bird      8. Shaquille O'Neal      9. Tim Duncan      10. Kobe Bryant             Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time         PPG: LeBron           RPG: LeBron           APG: LeBron           SPG: LeBron           BPG: LeBron           FG%: LeBron           3pt%: LeBron           FT%: Kobe           TS%: LeBron           PER: LeBron           WS/48: LeBron           VORP: LeBron           MVP's: LeBron           FMVP's: LeBron           Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)                    LeBron better player then Kobe                     Field goal%          LeBron 50.6%✔️          Kobe 44.7%                    Points scored career          LeBron 40,474✔️ (1st all time)          Kobe 33,643                    LeBron 1st all time points           Kobe 1st all time missed shots                     Total 3pointers made          LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,827                    Total Steals career          LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,944                    Total Blocks career           LeBron 1,111✔️          Kobe 640                    Defensive win shares           LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)          Kobe 50.66                    Assists Leader           LeBron 1✔️          Kobe 0                    Career highs          Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record                     Career highs           LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record                    Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters           LeBron 5✔️          Kobe 1                    2010 NBA finals           Game 7          Lakers 83 Celtics 79          Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points                     2013 NBA finals           Game 7          Heat 95 Spurs 88          LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points                     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings                    2011 NBA playoffs           Mavericks 4 Lakers 0          Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series                    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings                     Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

[@FUh_Que_-]

@@MasonAbe Meaningless stats go away fanboy

[@KingoftheLions-z87]

​@@FUh_Que_-meaningless? Most points all time 4 MVPs and 4 MVPs, all-stars, y'all haters are mad ASF you can't do that in your life 😂

[@hfsutsu5sggd75e2]

@@FUh_Que_-no bro its facts wake up lmao

[@yerpyaboy]

​​​​​​@@MasonAbe Kobe didn't start for his first 3 years because the coach held him back. Kobe Bryant didn't play the last 3 years because a torn shoulder and a torn Achilles And Kobe Bryant missed an entire season with a foot hand knee issue early in his career. Kobe Bryant only played 13 full seasons LeBron played 20 years... On steroids! Kobe Bryant was the underdog in the NBA finals 08,09 and 10. Kobe Bryant had a less talented team in LA in '08 '09 and 10 than LeBron did. But Kobe went to three straight championships and beat the teams that beat LeBron. outside of the '08 Celtics. You talk about defensive win shears and those only come in Miami when he was with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh who became a great defender. There's only one person who's been to as many all NBA defenses as Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant at 9. You're saying LeBron's defensive win shares is better than Kobe's except Kobe's been to more all NBA defensive teams at 9 than LeBron at 6. Your math ain't mathing. Kobe Bryant is a better dribbler. Kobe Bryant has a better low post game Kobe Bryant has a better mid-range game. Kobe Bryant was shooting three-pointers while being double teamed... The Spurs and the Dallas Mavericks let LeBron shoot wide open threes ( because everybody knows LeBron can't shoot) and they still have the same three-point percentage 😂= Kobe's a better three-point shooter . Kobe shoots threes with two defenders on him at the same rate as LeBron shoots threes wide open😂😂😂 Kobe's a better free throw shooter. Kobe's is a better on ball defender. You posted up a stat that LeBron has more blocks than Kobe. LeBron is a 6'8 250 lb forward and Kobe Bryant is a 6-5ft 195 lb guard... It's like comparing Tim Duncan's block shots as a center to LeBron. ( By the way Tim Duncan seen LeBron in the finals three times and spank the s*** out of him all three times/ How is LeBron above Tim Duncan when they play during the same era and Duncan spank LeBron's ass?? 🤔 Tim Duncan beat LeBron 4-0 in '07 And then Tim Duncan and the Spurs beat LeBron James and the Miami heat by more points than any team has ever lost in the NBA finals. 4-1 2014, And if it wasn't for a lucky Ray Allen shot Tim Duncan would have beat LeBron in 2013 4-2. Overall Tim Duncan has 11 wins in the NBA finals against LeBron and LeBron has 5 wins in three NBA finals😂😂😂 Tim Duncan > LaBrick) but LeBron has weak side blocks against players who didn't even see him coming. LeBron was not meeting people at the rim like Dwyane Wade. LeBron has sneaky blocks.( See interview with JR Smith giving details on "the block") not defending his man and stopping the ball but using his athleticism to chase down broken plays to catch a player by surprise. Kobe is better on ball defender. 💯 LeBron is a better passer than Kobe and that's it.... 1.) Michael Jordan 2.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3.) magic Johnson 4.) Bill Russell 5.) Wilt Chamberlain 6.) Tim Duncan 7.) Kobe Bryant 8.) LeBron James 9.) Shaquille O'Neal 10.) Larry Bird. And if Larry played 3+ more years I'd have him above LeBron. Larry Bird's 30 points 10 rebounds and six assists with two steals and a block in '88 was better than anything LeBrons ever done in his entire career. Peak for peak... LeBron ain't on Larry Bird's level. And to top all of this off LeBron James "the goat" had the third best shooting guard in NBA history on his team Dwyane Wade. and barely won two championships. He should have went 1-3. With us stacked team in the Eastern conference whose second best team was Paul George Indiana pacers when Paul George was on the bench until Danny Granger got hurt😂😂😂 LeBron James lost to an old Dallas Mavericks team and let Dirk nowitzki the white boy who won 50 games every year and lost in the first round win a championship... On LeBron's head while LeBron put up the biggest choke job by any superstar in NBA history 😂😂😂 because of LeBron people are calling Dirk nowitzki (a 7-footer who barely averaged six rebounds a game)One of the greatest power forwards of all time... Thanks LeBron Then in '09 LeBron lost to Dwight Howard.( the guy who doesn't take anything serious. The goofball running around with trannies 😮... ) And the reason why LeBron lost in '09 to Dwight Howard is because he ducked Kobe 🗣️🗣️🗣️ LeBron new if he played Kobe in that '09 championship Kobe was going to wax his ass!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 And then you're goofy ass wouldn't be saying nothing about LeBron versus Kobe because we all would have seen Kobe wax LeBron's ass 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Go sit down somewhere goofy

[@JSUTrumpet]

I can name 10 players off the top of my head I would take over LeBron….

50

[@thebops4180]

& definitely Larry Bird & Magic . . .

[@DTraiN5795]

Yeah I have him higher on the list then some players but if we’re doing a pick up game and I’m the coach. I’ll easily let the other team have him

[@PowderHeight]

No you can't lol .. 3-4 maybe, not 10

[@jonathandepue629]

10 is easy. 15 is easy. 1: MJ 2; Kareem 3: Magic 4: Bird 5: Russel 6: Wilt 7: Hakeem 8: Kobe 9: Shaq 10: Duncan 11: Oscar 12: Pistol Pete 13: West 14: Dr J 15: Barkley

[@raminabdulla4949]

ESPN putting Kobe at #9 is the most disrespectful shit ever

[@chadallen7474]

So true

[@chaepark8720]

My Top 5… 1. MJ 2. Bird/Kobe 4. Kareem 5. Magic

[@GS-mh6ub]

Exactly, ESPN is straight haters.

[@JayJay-kc4dn]

It's leESPN**

[@Lavhon23]

Facts think about it Kobe scored 81 fucking points in a game bruh he damn near beat wilt and we don’t have the footage of that shi 😂

[@martinofrancois2749]

Micheal Jordan is the most complete player in NBA history

[@urbaindelva7869]

What makes him more complete than any other? A lot of other players have the same argument.

[@SuperSonic_868]

​@urbaindelva7869 Lol what?? On offense and defense, who else ever played both sides of the ball better than Mike? Maybe dream comes close, but there aren't a whole lot of other players who could dominate two ways like that. Also, in 89 he took that point guard role and averaged 33/8/8 with solid defense. He started 81 games so it wasn't just a statistical blip here. Mike was super versatile bro. In the 91 finals he averaged 31 ppg, 7 rpg, and 11 apg. His passing is seriously underrated. We're talkin about a guy who gives you 33 ppg every playoff game while shutting down the opposing guard. That's pretty damn complete.

[@UrMom-du8hv]

bron better

[@southernmarine25]

AND he played SEVEN less years than LBJ. His stats would never be caught if he had as many seasons.

[@samthatguy5304]

​@@urbaindelva7869which player led the league in scoring and first team All defense multiple times? Come in on. It's not even close!

[@futurefox635]

Lebron does not even clear Larry Bird

[@redsarge98]

Making him not even the GOAT of small forwards 😂

[@StoneCold2k57]

Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time        1. Michael Jordan        2. LeBron James        3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar        4. Magic Johnson   5. Larry Bird 6. Shaquille O'Neal        7. Tim Duncan        10. Steph Curry   14. Kobe Bryant                Bleacher report has Larry Bird #5   When it's all said & done, this isn't even going to be a debate     LeBron vs Kobe:    Regular season: Playoffs:   PPG: LeBron PPG: LeBron   RPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron   APG: LeBron APG: LeBron   SPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron   FG%: LeBron FG%: LeBron   3pt%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron   FT%: Kobe FT%: Kobe  TS%: LeBron TS%: LeBron  PER: LeBron PER: LeBron  MVPs: LeBron Win Shares:   Win Shares: LeBron   LeBron. Plus/Minus:  Plus/Minus: LeBron   LeBron Rings: Kobe   WS/48: Finals Mvps:  LeBron LeBron    LeBron is a better player then Kobe    Field goal%  LeBron 50.6%✔️  Kobe 44.7%    Points scored   LeBron 40,474✔️  Kobe 33,643    LeBron 1st all time points   Kobe 1st all time missed shots    3pointers made career   LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)  Kobe 1827    Steals career   LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)  Kobe 1,944    Blocks career   LeBron 1,111✔️  Kobe 640    Assists Leader   LeBron 1✔️  Kobe 0    Defensive win shares   LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)  Kobe 50.66    Career highs   Kobe 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record     Career highs  LeBron 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record     Playoff points scored  LeBron 8,162✔️ (1st all time)  Kobe 5,640    Playoff game winning buzzers beaters   LeBron 5✔️  Kobe 1    2010 NBA finals   Game 7  Lakers 83 Celtics 79  Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points     2013 NBA finals   Game 7  Heat 95 Spurs 88  LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points     2000 NBA finals   Lakers 4 Pacers 2  Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs  Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings     Kobe 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14    2011 NBA playoffs   Mavericks 4 Lakers 0  Dallas swept Kobe Bryant who was favorite to win series with home court advantage

[@julianrojas4792]

​@StoneCold2k57 that's a lot of stats for 4 rings in 22 years.

[@ismailalsomali100]

Nor Koby, Duncan , Hakeem, Kareem and Magic

[@LouieBaLLz]

He hasn't cleared Pippen. I would take Pip over Bron all day every day.

[@stavrospavlides2093]

The "Lebron is the GOAT" debate is everything that's wrong with American society

[@gian-gian-carlo]

the debate ended with dirk 2011

[@stavrospavlides2093]

@@gian-gian-carlo I don't understand what sport these kids are watching. Lebron has been a deer in headlights for most of his career when the heat is on (no pun intended), then he graduated to acting tough & clutch while whining and throwing teammates under the bus. Oh and making excuses. Guys, this is not GOAT material. Curry is more of a winner than Lebron, despite the stats

[@michaelthreepeat]

​@Gianballer you meant with JJ Barea, right ?

[@urbaindelva7869]

Right, because they are totally not worse issues in society than that. Grow up. 😒

[@stavrospavlides2093]

@ it's reflective of worse issues, but I shouldn't expect simpletons on KZbin to grasp that concept

[@JohnDoe-gf5he]

People who say LeBron is the GOAT knows nothing about basketball. It took half a decade more* for LeBron to catch up to some of Jordan's records, and some of them he never will.

[@urbaindelva7869]

And people who question the knowledge of others for having an opinion that they disagree with are pricks.

[@makofett7404]

@@urbaindelva7869 dont be an ass when someone speaks facts. Obviously you have a learning disability to not comprehend all the facts that uncut and skap attack present in every thesis on GOAT videos. PAY ATTENTION STOP CRYING Lebron was overshadowed everytime he played Kobe. If Jordan wouldve played straight through his career with mo breaks he would still be all time scorer and have 9 rings and I hate the Bulls! Its just facts.

[@KommieKaze]

@@urbaindelva7869 and ones that don’t confront people about their opinion and debate it without name calling are just plain sad. I’m taking about you, my friend.

[@vewayy]

“it took half a decade for lebron to catch up” MJ played for 13 seasons you cannot be serious in saying that it taking 5 years is bad

[@bos3835]

LeFraud also plays in an era of inflated stats because rules were changed to make it happen. They also rarely call carrying and traveling.

[@thomashinchliff2173]

Even more added context: Those worst games that Jordan had were against the bad boy pistons, who won back to back championships, had Jordan Rules to stop him, and literally beat him up.

[@Corey-i5v]

The fact that he doesn't play defense makes him not even a contender in a goat debate

[@JoshAhlstrom]

The fact that he choked his ass off from 2009-2011 should end the debate.

[@lioninthesun]

But he did at one point, im not a lebron fan but if you watch is defense in 09 it was impressive

[@jajo3203]

​@@lioninthesun I think their just talking about recent years

[@ArmanKels]

LeBron 10th all time in Defensive win shares so you saying he doesn't play defense proof you don't know basketball 😂

[@colbyjacobs8280]

@@ArmanKelsno one said he wasn’t good at defense, just pointing out he picks and chooses when to defend

[@DarkLordMisa]

LeBron doesn't even clear Timmy

[@ironlion5808]

Thank you!!!!

[@DarkLordMisa]

@ironlion5808 tired of mainstream media saying he's number 2 all time when he hasn't even surpassed the guy who creamed him twice in the finals lol

[@ironlion5808]

@@DarkLordMisa I've been saying the same thing for years!

[@ashuprice9719]

@@DarkLordMisathere’s no way your bringing up lebrons first finals against the spurs to put Duncan over him

[@DarkLordMisa]

@ashuprice9719 There's no way LeBron fans will bring up the lowest hanging fruit when it comes to Kobe and Jordan but when I do it it's a problem? How does that make sense? 🤔

[@herothegeorge]

Mike never had to go on a self-promo campaign for the goat, they were ready to crown him after his first 3 peat lol.

[@trilogymango]

LeBron has never carried himself with the same mentality and intensity that MJ, Kobe, Bird etc. did

[@DTraiN5795]

Facts

[@Lakers-rj2gw]

Lebron not better than Kobe .

[@Boredom129]

😂

[@GrudgeyCable]

Legit

[@KoolRunnings-rr8xh]

Could never be…!!!!

[@cadillackadafi77]

LeBron is not top 10 4-6 ped use horrible defender,

[@Krazyfrm18thstreet]

Lebron is way better than Kobe

[@MaydayAggro]

When did LeBron become a nice guy? Mr. 2 yr old tantrum. Great video, as always.

[@ZenseiShoryu]

Any man who flops, whines, and blames his team could never be in the conversation of a GOAT debate

[@chadallen7474]

Exactly!

[@cptrey]

He knows he can never surpass Jordan. His only concern now is buying his way into convince people that he did

[@marcamico5254]

There was NEVER a debate between Jordan v Lebron like EVER until Klutch sports media started the bs! Debate was ALWAYS between Jordan v Kobe. ESPCNN keeps selling/marketing LBJTQ 24/7.

[@AveryShaw-w5w]

Finals Mvps (individual player)  Jordan 6  LeBron 4  Shaq 3  Kobe 2    Best player on teams championships Jordan 6  LeBron 4 Kobe 2  Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 😂   🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe    LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭    LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg     LeBron 1st all time points  Kobe 1st all time missed shots    Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time  1. Michael Jordan  2. LeBron James  3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar  6. Shaquille O'Neal  7. Tim Duncan  14. Kobe Bryant    Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14    Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss

[@811chelseafc]

There’s never been a debate between Jordan and Kobe. There’s literally not a single stat or accolade that favors Kobe except a slight advantage in free throw percentage. Kobe put a valiant effort into trying to catch Jordan but he never got there.

[@arrexu01]

@@811chelseafc still the closest thing to MJ since MJ.

[@DelorianTracking]

@@811chelseafc The discussion in between Kobe & MJ was never really about a direct comparison of stats and results but comparing them from where there started. MJ was freakishly athletic with the ability to fly and enormous hands. Kobe did not have either of those. Thus there's a legitimate argument to respect what Kobe did more than what Jordan achieved, thus to rank him higher. If it was just about personal stats, we would have another debate: MJ vs Wilt. Some records Wilt set up will never be broken. And Wilt vs Jordan 1:1, both in their prime? Wilt wins 8 out of 10.

[@811chelseafc]

@ so for your argument we ignore physical traits (and apparently downplay Kobe’s immense athleticism) and put a lot of stock into a 1v1 between a guard and a center who also happens to be maybe the most athletic man who’s ever lived (which Kobe would also definitely lose). The gifts you were born with and the “starting point” (and I guess we’ll also ignore that Kobe got to develop against defenses that had to worry about prime Shaq) don’t matter. It’s about what you achieved on the court and Jordan achieved at least slightly more of everything than Kobe.

[@GMoney-ud4qd]

I can’t understand why this is still a debate!! Should’ve never even been a discussion!!

[@chadallen7474]

I totally agree!

[@hfsutsu5sggd75e2]

Yeah we all know bron better duhh

[@chris-t6d3s]

Agreed.

[@theresak2024]

@@hfsutsu5sggd75e2 In your mind, maybe. Certainly not in the minds of the majority. The sooner you accept that fact, the sooner you can move forward.

[@jolli4116]

Teamed up with his competition and assembled superteam since Miami to have an easy ride. He cheated the game and cheated competition. Lefraud is disqualified in the Goat conversation cuz his championships and stats records is a byproduct of having an easy ride.

[@FallenstarPR-f1w]

And still lost 😂

[@jlui21]

-- lol, I agree. LeBron saw the "easy" button and joined Wade-Bosh, then Kyrie-Love, and then Anthony Davis. Each of those three sets, someone was entering their PRIME (age 27): LeFraud 1st, Love 2nd, and AD 3rd Still for a CAREER, I have MJ 1, Kareem 2, LeFraud 3. However, if I want a SF for a 10 year stretch, I'm going with Bird all day. He and Hakeem are my favorite players.

[@makofett7404]

No killer desire to beat his contemporaries.

[@yourefine9020]

Ruined the league after doing that with player movement and no loyalty to organizations

[@hfsutsu5sggd75e2]

@@jlui21trash cavs team

[@anthonyhernandez2111]

LeBozo never made any of his teammates better, he just used them for what THEY could sacrifice for HIM to look good and take all the credit. Lebrons never been part of a team system because the only way he can play is to have the ball in his hands all times. Thats why its so easy for the "team" aka Lebron to scapegoat so many people. just blame others even though the whole system runs through Lebron. what a joke. no full accountability and career full of excuses

[@MasonAbe]

The Athletic top 10 best NBA players all time      1. Michael Jordan      2. LeBron James      3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar      4. Bill Russell      5. Magic Johnson      6. Wilt Chamberlain      7. Larry Bird      8. Shaquille O'Neal      9. Tim Duncan      10. Kobe Bryant             Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time         PPG: LeBron           RPG: LeBron           APG: LeBron           SPG: LeBron           BPG: LeBron           FG%: LeBron           3pt%: LeBron           FT%: Kobe           TS%: LeBron           PER: LeBron           WS/48: LeBron           VORP: LeBron           MVP's: LeBron           FMVP's: LeBron           Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)                    LeBron better player then Kobe                     Field goal%          LeBron 50.6%✔️          Kobe 44.7%                    Points scored career          LeBron 40,474✔️ (1st all time)          Kobe 33,643                    LeBron 1st all time points           Kobe 1st all time missed shots                     Total 3pointers made          LeBron 2,410✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,827                    Total Steals career          LeBron 2,275✔️ (8th all time)          Kobe 1,944                    Total Blocks career           LeBron 1,111✔️          Kobe 640                    Defensive win shares           LeBron 80.71✔️ (10th all time)          Kobe 50.66                    Assists Leader           LeBron 1✔️          Kobe 0                    Career highs          Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record                     Career highs           LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record                    Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters           LeBron 5✔️          Kobe 1                    2010 NBA finals           Game 7          Lakers 83 Celtics 79          Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points                     2013 NBA finals           Game 7          Heat 95 Spurs 88          LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points                     Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings                    2011 NBA playoffs           Mavericks 4 Lakers 0          Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series                    LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings                     Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

[@michaelthreepeat]

​@MasonAbe 0:03 0:03 🤡. Spammer...you can't even properly speak English.

[@michaelthreepeat]

He made great teammates worse...by sticking them in the corner to only jack up threes when it was not their games, the LBJ system...Bosh, Love, Russ. Seeing how Jokic is making Russ looks compared to how he looks under LePEDiddy's watch is ludicrous.

[@richardotingle2554]

You speak truth

[@dlbarnes]

LeBron lost the GOAT bid in 2011

[@sethbullock4193]

Long before then. Numerous choke jobs BEFORE 2011. Twice against Boston when he quit on top of choking.

[@Thatguywiththeplan8]

LeBron isn’t top ten and I’m not ranking him at all because those PED allegations seem credible. So unless someone comes out and debunks those claims I refuse to acknowledge as an all time great.

[@LisaPhendla]

you forgot that he lost to Dwight Howard

[@redhorsepapi]

"A bee can't convince a fly that honey tastes better than shit." You're the fly, Lebron fans.

[@richardotingle2554]

I’m stealing this phrase

[@jessewright8930]

They be saying oh he passed Michael in all stats….forgetting the fact it took this man 20-22 years to do so and MJ only played like 13 seasons and all those seasons wasn’t 82 game seasons.

[@theresak2024]

All facts! Lebron has passed MJ in terms of cumulative stats because he has played 7 additional seasons but the per game stats and advanced analytics all favour Jordan.

[@coloradochris3952]

"Kingship" is bestowed upon someone, while "Goathood" is earned aka won. One guy "inherited" a throne, the other guy just won.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

What people who read basic stats don't realize - they never adjust for pace variation over time. They also don't seem to realize LeBron literally always plays for stats while Kobe and MJ played to win at all costs. You can routinely see James throughout his career try to stat stuff in garbage time by going for open layups when they really need to get a 3 to have a chance at being able to tie/win the game. When you need the man to step up and hit a game winner, he needs to delegate all of that responsibility to DWade, Irving, or Reaves. One of the most overlooked factors as to why Shaq is not really mentioned much in the GOAT debate is the fact that he was arguably a LIABILITY in clutch situations due to his limited range and poor free throw shooting. The same could be said of LeBron and his inability to take over games and need his teammates to bail him out late into the game.

[@brianelam9297]

Taking everything into context, it’s not even certain if LeBron belongs in the top 5. I think the media has created this narrative for ratings and the NBA chose him as their face of the NBA, so they are pushing it too.

[@LouSeph]

LeBron choked against the Magic in 2009 too.

[@dryames4319]

He did, with 66 win team too. But people don't like to talk about it tho.

[@pjny21]

A series his boy JJ Redick could barely see the floor. Played like 10 minutes lol.

[@lorenzjohnjago3784]

Funny thing is in their podcast he made an excuse that the Magic was so strong coz they have Jameer Nelson, when in fact Jameer was injured during that series, and even JJ didn't correct him but he was playing that series 😂

[@thestranger6910]

This video is 100% correct, but 2009 is the one series where Lebron should get a pass. He was incredible in that series. 38/8/8 on 59% true shooting.

[@hfsutsu5sggd75e2]

Magic had better team

[@LouSeph]

LeBron should of never been compared to Kobe or Joran - making LeBron the standard has killed the standard and killed the NBA.

[@vudujl83]

When was there ever a real debate?

[@ironlion5808]

Not ever!

[@cotati76]

Never. Only bored tv analysts bring it up because the game has gotten so bad thats all they can talk about.

[@notjoe3754]

LeBron's the GOAT to crown himself GOAT. Jordan's the GOAT who never crowned himself GOAT. Nuff said.

[@blakelane5593]

When you tell people you're the best as apposed to people telling you you're the best there's a difference lefroud James Jordan does not have to say he's the best every real person without an agenda knows it ​@@notjoe3754

[@jessiegomez8209]

​@@cotati76Wrong.Lebron haters bring it up daily.Jordan fans also They are all so worried about Lebron.😂

[@theophilus3793]

Seriously, when LeBron retires and the hype dies down, he will drop out of the GOAT debate, probably down to top 10.

[@PJBlick]

Yeah, I have him struggling to make the Top-15 on my list. If you add 70's players, even lower.

[@marcoz4516]

This is madness. It's really crazy ​@@PJBlick

[@HushHushOG]

@@PJBlick Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Bird, Duncan, Russell... I honestly dont even know if I could put LeBron above Curry and Wade

[@PJBlick]

@ Then Moses, Big Bill, Pistol Pete, and he would even struggle to crack the Top-25

[@blazedbeye3412]

Can't forget Wilt, Oscar, Jerry, and Elgin.

[@christophercatiller2422]

"Yo these dudes out here trying to kill people." 🤣

[@stavrospavlides2093]

exactly. Keep your super-friend Lebron and give me the super-agile psycho MJ

[@jameelharrigan6041]

And they say his teams were full of bums. He's been the bum through out his career.

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

Jordan made the league popular as ever and LeBron made the league unwatchable because of the 2020 bubble.

[@MrByrdis]

He made almost unwatchable before then. All the flopping in Miami and crying. Ushered in the cupcake era. Happened way before the bubble.

[@StoneBen-nk4sl]

Jason Terry 4-0 swept Kobe Bryant in 2011 NBA playoffs so what's yo point? 🤡🤣

[@StoneBen-nk4sl]

2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Game 4 Mavs 122 Lakers 86 J Terry 11-14 fg and 9-10 3pt for 32 points Outplayed Kobe 7-18 fg and 0-5 3pt for 17 points 🤣

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

@@StoneBen-nk4sl what does that have to do with the statement I made?

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

@@StoneBen-nk4sl The Mavs were a great team that year. Don’t act as if Jason Terry was a nobody. He was a premier 6th man of the year. Terry was got that day.

[@nicoli-thenextup9866]

0:16 - ty my point Barkley 😂they immediately tried to put him over Kobe

[@vladovrgoc455]

Klutch Sports and LeBron's media would be the happiest if the 2011 could be erased as a year at all and for all.

[@lioninthesun]

I don’t have lebron in my top 10 but I have no problem with him thinking he’s the greatest. He’s supposed to think that. My issue is with his delusional fans because they deny facts

[@uncuthoops]

My issue is that he keeps saying it publicly almost trying to convince himself

[@theophilus3793]

@ That is the problem. I would actually like LeBron and root for him if he just played hard, competed to win, and kept his mouth shut on the GOAT talk. He does none of those things.

[@makofett7404]

@@uncuthoops yep like news media lies…say it enough everyone will believe me

[@lioninthesun]

@@uncuthoops yes it’s annoying and false but he can say what he wants. Just like mj never says it which is why real men respect mj more

[@lioninthesun]

@@theophilus3793 if lebron had kobes mentality, which I only saw him play like that once in 2012 game 6. There would be no debate. That game he was a killer

[@GS-mh6ub]

I find it disturbing how the mainstream media favors him over Kobe and compares him to Michael. The comparison is invalid. Michael is superior to Lesteroid James in every way. Kobe is the closest to Jordan and surpasses Lesteroid James in skill.

[@Jari144k]

Kobe was Batman Shaq was Superman

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Shaq isn't Superman because Superman can fly.

[@Jari144k]

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 stop it Shaq was always called the man of steel.Was you born yesterday

[@ruebencruz-tokar3279]

“Lebron isn’t a scorer” well if he was, he probably would have won more playoff games 😂😂😂

[@robertrobles6744]

NOBODY WILL EVER LOOK AT LEBRON LIKE THE GOAT🐐

[@jkemp6791]

If LeBron was the GOAT he and LeMedia wouldn’t have to try to convince you all the time that he’s the GOAT.

[@gugy68]

The fact Bron keeps calling himself the GOAT is enough proof he's insecure and knows deep down he isn't the one. I have never seem MJ, Kobe, Magic, Bird, KAJ, Russell, etc ever self anointing themselves.

[@rcole718]

Lebron threw that series against Boston in 2010. It's harder to explain leaving after winning a title than it is to leave after losing. 😊

[@ChristianWearly]

That Tatum edit 🤣

[@seanvahsholtz]

Just because Lamebron looks like a goat doesn't make him the goat!

[@mphase7575]

When someone comes along and gets at least 2 3 peats and wins more accolades and trophies than jordan, I will concede. Until then, we have to just wait. One thing for sure, it's definitely not lebum!!

[@ironlion5808]

The culture and mentality is so different now that we probably will never see a Jordan or Kobe like player again.

[@mphase7575]

@ironlion5808 Facts... unfortunately. That's what bronsexuals don't understand. We actually want to see someone come along and dethrone jordan, but it's just not lebron, and they can't handle it.

[@GtheGreat1]

This is just surgical smh. This video leaves no debate! Excellent work UH 💪🏾

[@martinofrancois2749]

Kobe only played with Paul Gasol and Shaq in his career

[@ckyung1312]

He’s not greater than Kareem. Never has, never will.

[@adamm2787]

3:00 I hate the argument in this debate that Jordan wasn't winning in the 80's...because Lebron wasn't winning in the 00's either. Jordon won his first ring in year 7, Lebron won his first in year 9. The only argument LeStans have against this is that Lebron made it to the Finals in year 4...In the weakest conference in the history of the NBA...Against two 41 win teams and a 53 win team...Then got swept when they had to play an actual good team in the Finals... That is the weakest argument in all of this debate. NEITHER of them won early in their careers and that weak ass finals appearance doesn't mean anything...He still lost.

[@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect]

Kobe deserves to stand near MJ. Lebron can have some baby oil.

[@givem110]

He lost as the favorite in 2009 vs the magic 2010 vs the Celtics 2011 vs the mavericks 2014 vs the Spurs (although that was almost a pick em) Jordan never lost as the favorite but he did win as the underdog 4x. LeBron did it 3x but 1 of them was with the league helping him vs the warriors. LeBron choked away the 2013 chip before he got saved by Ray Allen. He almost always tried to give up the responsibility late in huge games by passing so he couldn't be criticized as well.

[@ProgressiveTruthSeekers]

LeBron is in the top 15, or 20 players in NBA history. However, Michael Jordan is clearly the best NBA player, ever!

[@rosharma7443]

When lebron said "that one there made you the greatest player of all time" I think he was waiting for someone to chime in and agree but even his friends were stunned

[@calvinandsnobs]

IF ppl rememer 2011 Lechoke confirmed that he would never be a GOAT. His 3-peat and the obnoxiousness of his fans got ppl twisted

[@RMGCBG]

Bird would call Lebron’s mom and say “tomorrow I’m dropping 40 on him” then call back in the 3rd quarter and say “told you” CLICK

[@chill6789]

the he's choking, he's choking clip😂😂

[@ramborm0810]

Lechump and his fanboys need to take that in season participation trophy and shut their traps. Thanks for trying though.

[@boskey10]

In 1997 at the 50th Anniversary game, it was Jordan and Wilt on who was the best ever. Everyone else was fighting for 3rd place. 28 years later nothing has changed.

[@dantedira4278]

Lebron is a nice guy? He’s not even an honorable one. Back in the 2010s he said he didnt care about fans because they were making less money than he does. He faked a racial attack on his home. He claimed he was the greatest onscreen after kyrie irving defeated a gs team that was softened up by adam silver in 2016, as if those things dont factor in. He forces an org to trade away its future to draft westbrook, only to use the guy as a scapegoat. He has had several coaches blamed for his teams failures and eventually fired. . He leaves cleveland to join a miami superteam He leaves dwayne wade hanging when wade began to show signs of aging He colludes with wade and bosh to make that superteam because he gets jealous of kobe who has five rings to his none He forces an organization to draft his son and hire a podcast coach He will only take a shot if there is minimal repercussion. If the team is behind with the seconds ticking he will pass so he will not be blamed. He will throw a temper tantrum any time a call does not go his way even though he is already the most favored by the refs and does not play defense He will try to up his stats even when his team will lose because of it, then he blames his teammates if they lose. He will walk off the court without shaking hands after a bad loss. He will flex gratuitiously after making a shot or a block on a guy who is literally a lot shorter than him.😂 What in these things tell you he is honorable? Or even nice? Who in their right mind has this kind of person as their goat?

[@remyjanus2385]

When you great others call you great … of course your wife will call you that she never had to work a job in her life

[@urbaindelva7869]

I believe that his wife actually has her own business and a podcast. Also, Idk why you bought her up at all because she is not a factor in this. Childish.

[@remyjanus2385]

@ podcast she never had a real job dealing with bosses and she was in the video man your kinda sassy

[@jacobscholtissek2410]

"Lebron is the GOAT" guys probably vote what the Media tells them to do.

[@Cononized]

1:49 That clip there is from the best segment, it’s still so good to watch The worst thing to happen to skip was having to work with leshannon sharpe “Lebron wasn’t even Lerobin James last night he was lealfred” 😂

[@josebove6876]

Jordan, bryant, Duncan, garnett, curry, Abdul jabbar, bird, magic, o neal, olajajuwon and more are better than him

[@Lomno12]

You can see in 2000s lbj only had drive and no go to move. You put stronger player who he bullies but can't beat, he misses layups... pathetic

[@kpizzleprice6649]

Putting james over Kobe is disrespectful.

[@adamm2787]

6:00 Do Lebron fans really brag that he ALMOST won the semifinals? Is that really part of there debate criteria? That he took the Celtics to game 7 in the second round of the playoffs? If so that is really pathetic.

[@AXEJAYB]

I mean they celebrate losing 3 games in the finals in 2016 against a crippled warriors

[@284animal]

I will die on this conspiracy hill. LeBron vs the mavericks saw that wade would have been the finals mvp if they won that series and LeBrons ego couldn't handle that.

[@lucasxgamer07canal2]

Another fact is that Dirk championship (2011, the finals that is mentioned on the video) has more value than lebron 4 rings. 2011- Mavericks players in all-star selection: only Dirk; Miami: lebron, wade and bosh; Mavericks players at prime: none; Miami: the big three; Dirk mean while - flu in game 4 and broken finger still playing decent at worst and showing up at the 4th; Lebron mean while - fully healthy score 8 only points at game 4 (4 turnovers) and a shit on the 4th.

[@rakunka6115]

yeah even timmy better than lebron in goat debate

[@LebronLover9000]

More value than any of lebrons rings? Did you not see him beat a 73-9 team while averaging the best numbers on the team?

[@lucasxgamer07canal2]

@LebronLover9000 first the warriors aren't at full power in the 2016 finals, second he had kyrie and Kevin love playing on the same level (his finals MVP was deserving, but the cavs had 2 real finals MVPs on the team)

[@LebronLover9000]

@ data from Statmuse and ESPN show LeBron averaged 29.7 points, 11 rebounds, 8.9 assists, 2.6 steals a game, 2.3 blocks a game (41.7 min) while Kyrie averaged 27.1 points, ONLY 3.9 rebounds AND assists while playing (39 min) Kevin love was dropping 8 points 6.8 rebounds and 1.3 assists. 0.7 steals and .03 blocks a game? I get you don’t like LeBron but are you really saying KEVIN LOVE performed at an finals MVP level? Did you even do any research? Or do you just base your arguments off your biased opinions and not care about the facts in general?

[@lucasxgamer07canal2]

@@LebronLover9000 it was love that I was talking about second MVP

[@dewyakana1543]

The greatest maid Diddy ever had, LeBronda!

[@martinofrancois2749]

Jordan is the only player that has in his resume 10x scoring titles 6x NBA championships 6x finals MVP 9x game winner buzzer beater 9x all defensive team 3x steal leader and never lost more 3x in his career

[@Shroomdiffnuclear]

Never seen a person talk about his legacy so much and leaving chaos behind him from wherever he left

[@GrandRand10]

Legitimate discussion is fine. I personally think MJ is the GOAT. But this debate has turned into a cult. People go to these comment sections to tear apart a man they’ve never met or who affects their lives in any way, saying the most ridiculous things I’ve heard.

[@gustavsorensen9301]

Facts..This Michael Jordan never missed a shot, and LeBron James isn’t in the top 100 cult is Just bizzare

[@stavrospavlides2093]

​@@gustavsorensen9301 yeaa that's a bit much. That's how conflicts go unfortunately, they keep escalating till it's hard to see what's real

[@trouserarmadillo8616]

MJ cured cancer and solved world hunger. What are you talking about?

[@asyetundetermined]

@@gustavsorensen9301can’t say I’ve ever really seen this on either end. Few things at play here that are new is generations interacting in a way they never have before and a media that is still using MJ to get clicks for a sport that has waning interest. Conflict sells and if they had intriguing teams and rivalries they wouldn’t need to lean on an ambassador of the game who retired 22 years ago to maintain relevance with the younger generation. Also, LeBron is clearly singularly obsessed with this on a personal level, but people aren’t willing to replace reality with his wishes, so you naturally see pushback from what ultimately is kind of the flat earth society of the sports world. LeBron isn’t content being a consensus top 10 player and most peoples’ #2, so the media onslaught continues and carries with it responses in sports communities online.

[@johnjohnson8364]

Duncan ....bird .....cap....all better by leaps and bounds ....for their organization and their overall play

[@CT-cf6wm]

Also knows talking about that Terry played Jordan in his prime and got smoked on there match ups. Meanwhile aged Terry put the locked down on prime LJ. That says a lots.

[@vewayy]

bro locked him up in ONE series. lebron averages 26/7/6/1.5/1 against JT for his career.

[@CT-cf6wm]

@ Yeah in one series lol bro that was for a chip. Homie looked like he didn’t belong in the league with Terry. An those numbers you threw around was LJ career avg. that not his numbers against Terry homie.

[@CT-cf6wm]

@ you for got to add in the 3.5 turnovers per game 😂 oh most in nba history also!!!! Haaaa but they won’t talk about that on espn.

[@vewayy]

@ because he passes the ball so much. every player that is high on the all time turnovers list is a high volume playmaker. not something you can use against someone. next argument?

[@vewayy]

@ that was not lebron’s career averages. his career averages are slightly different. literally go and search up his averages vs terry. i can give you every single statline if you need me to. he averaged 26.1PPG, 7.5RPG, 6.3APG, 1.4SPG and 0.8BPG against JT in 41 matchups. JT averaged 12.1PPG, 1.8RPG, 2.8APG, 1.0SPG and 0.2BPG. terry “locked him up” for one series. that is it. yes lebron was poor in ‘11 finals, everyone knows that. but he erased that from his legacy in 2016.

[@cje6129]

As a die hard Celtics fan, and an MJ fan, Lebron use to terrorize the KG Celtics and the entire eastern conference with a bunch of bums on his team. And he did this for years….just like Jordan.

[@labynoe]

This video demonstrates everything about LeBron that I wrote in the earlier comment, which I'll copy below: "My biggest problem with LeBron being in GOAT debates is that LeBron is objectively not even a great basketball player. He's not a great shooter/scorer, he's not a great rebounder, he's not a great defender, he's not great in the clutch, and he's not a guy who makes his teammates better - he actually makes teammates WORSE. There are SO MANY guys throughout NBA history that were better at basketball than LeBron James, a guy who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, and can’t defend. Guys like Bob MacAdoo, Rick Barry, and John Havlicek were all WAY better than LeBron. Dominique Wilkins was WAY better than LeBron. Grant Hill, Vince Carter, and Tracey McGrady were WAY better than LeBron. I’d take the “Secretary of Defense” Bobby Jones over LeBron James. I’m not saying these guys had better stats and more accolades than LeBron, just that they all played the game of basketball WITHIN THE RULES far better than LeBron ever played the game. They could dribble WITHOUT carrying, traveling, and turning over the ball, they could shoot better than LeBron, whose effective shooting range is 3 feet from the basket, they had actual “Go To” moves beyond LeBron’s “Barge and Charge” then get bailed out by the refs, they had better footwork on both ends of the court, and they were all better in the clutch than the notoriously and frequently choking LeBron. LeBron’s whole career has so obviously been manufactured by the NBA that chose him as “The Face of the League” when he was just a big athletic high schooler that would NEVER develop his game much beyond “Big and Athletic”. LeBron is the most fundamentally unsound, low-skill player ever sold as an All Time Great. LeBron is not only NOT the GOAT, he’s NOT even a great basketball player at the NBA level. And THAT is why his fans will always have to defend him and the GLARING flaws in his highly limited game by pointing to stats and accolades. LeBron James is just not very good at basketball UNLESS we throw out the rule book as the NBA repeatedly does and continues to do for him."

[@stringbender247]

Dude's trash. You wanna hear a big difference between Lechina and Mr Jordan? Nobody and i mean nobody wanted Jordan to retire, but lots of people want Lebron to retire. More people want him gone than those who want him to stay. The only people that want him to stay are people paid by his agency. Period. The day lebron retires will be a day people remember more than anything he did on the court.

[@everettfifield751]

MJ, Kobe, the rest of the ranking doesn't matter. No one that has ever played deserves to be in the same conversation as those 2 players.

[@blazedbeye3412]

Kareem is in that conversation. Between college and the NBA it can be argued no ones has done more in basketball. MJ is the goat, but I'd take Kareem over Kobe everyday

[@WilliamChristian-lx2pb]

Wilt. Oscar. Elgin. Bird. Dr J. West. There are others.

[@everettfifield751]

@ maybe for the top 10 players of all time(same with Lebron), but when it comes to the GOAT, MJ or Kobe, bottom line

[@Epicentr]

Great video, Uncut. Always love the presentation. I always enjoy the clips you include for effect (THE GOOOAAATT). I feel like we're about the same age based on the sources of your clips, but Pierce Brosnan choking totally got me on this video. xD

[@Nycx_jona]

Bro’s the second coming of skip bayless. How can u hate so much on a man😂

[@MichaelVergara-t8p]

I used to like this channel , but he’s getting really bad with the LeBron hate. It’s one thing to think that Jordan is the GOAT, but this guy just straight up hates LeBron .

[@Dipset415]

@@MichaelVergara-t8phe makes these videos because a lot of people hate lebrons manufactured career

[@jetlyfer4202]

Imagine still clicking on the video 😮

[@Nycx_jona]

@@MichaelVergara-t8p fr tho I still fw sum of his vids but the Bron hate is crazy😭 not even after Bron went crazy last night.

[@MichaelVergara-t8p]

@@Dipset415 that’s fine. I agree with that and I also think Jordan is the GOAT. But every other video he posts is about LeBron. He lives rent free in this guys head lol

[@malcolmpuhawan3695]

Hard to be 'the GOAT' if players don't respect BOTH your Offense AND Defense

[@MrKurtykurt]

I was actually just looking at these numbers bc I’m tired of hearing about his 2007 Finals run where he “carried bums.” The Cavs swept the Wizards that year with Lebron avg 27.8ppg on 42.5% FG% while Antwan Jamison avg 32.0ppg on 47.6% FG% so how is it that Lebron’s teammates had nothing to do with winning a series in which Lebron was straight up outplayed by the man guarding him. ⏬Theres also ⏬ Game 1 - Larry Hughes has team high 27pts on 53% Game 2 - Drew Gooden has 24pts on 77% and 14 rebounds Game 3 - Big Z has 24pts on 77% and follows that up with a HUGE Game 4 - *20pts and 19rbs* •Series• Drew - 14.5ppg on 61% and 10rpg Big Z - 19ppg on 60% and 11rpg Cavs D - Opp avg 91.5ppg I am NOT saying the Cavs are making it to the Finals without Lebron. All I’m saying is the Cavs also would have never made it to the Finals without great team defense, a rotation of “bums” who stepped up offensively, and atrociously weak Eastern Conference And the proof lies in 14 of the 20 total playoff games bc LeBron was great in 2 games vs Washington, 2 games vs NJN, and 2 games vs Detroit which leaves 10 games in that finals run where LeBron avg 19 on 36% exactly the same as his terrible Finals performance

[@brendanwright449]

Jordan is the Goat, End of story:

[@Ltsuek]

Simple math. 6 > 5 > 3 + Mickey Mouse chip. MJ > Kobe > James

[@rakunka6115]

timmy/bird/magic > bron

[@whatsuper4o]

Well i might get jumped for this but i still think Lebron is the goat, the 2011 finals was indeed a disaster for him but after this he did won b2b rings, he went back to Cleveland and won them a championship against arguably the greatest team ever in the most legendary comeback ever(down 3-1 in finals)he won Lakers a ring too, has every record there is to have and still performs at a decent level at the age of 40. Both James and Jordan had help, imo Jordan had greater help, the greatest coach, best defenders in Pippen and Rodman, best shooters in Steve Kerr, Tony Kukoc, Paxson. Bulls had a great team from start to finish, them 1996 Bulls especially can beat anyone in my opinion, perfectly structured team, nobody ever mentiones that, when you mention Lebron, Kyrie or Wade or Bosh will always be brought up. Pippen, Rodman, Phil Jackson never to be mentioned.

[@jedsteelwell2354]

For me James biggest accomplishment is definitely his longevity. Is he the most clutch the best player ever the most loyal best teammate? No hes none of those for me. Im ok with putting him around 8-10 all time. Hes not in my top 10 but im ok with him being there.

[@juicyj9357]

Look at Leron vs Larry Bird career stats at 33 years old. Larry leads in basically every category.

[@vewayy]

please tell me why we’re just lying now? it’s actually not that close and lebron was better lebron regular season at age 33 (17-18): 27.5p/8.5r/9a/1.5s/1b on 59eFG% 2nd in MVP voting All-Star All-NBA 1st Team bird regular season at age 33 (89-90): 24p/9.5r/7.5a/1.5s/1b on 49.5eFG% 10th in MVP voting All-Star All-NBA 2nd Team lebron playoffs at age 33 (17-18): 34p/9r/9a/1.5s/1b on 57.7eFG% Lost to the best team of all time in the Finals bird playoffs at age 33 (89-90): 24.5p/9r/9a/1s/1b on 47eFG% Lost 3-2 to the Knicks after going up 2-0

[@SupremeLogic1000]

Imagine if even just half of the league played defense in today's game the way the 08' Celtics did??? I guarantee LeBron would look every bit of 40 yrs old... That's the ONLY reason he's been able to remain relevant is because the defense in the league is at an astonishing all time low