Undead Unleashed Upgrade - Improving the Precon Commander Deck with $100

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In this video:
00:00 Intro
04:06 Removals
20:28 Additions
38:18 Outro

[@Psil33t]

When I added in some sac outlets like ashnod's altar I found that the geistcatcher was actually really good. Usually by the time you want to play him you have a reasonable board full of zombies and you can play him, sac all your zombies to get that many 2/2s from the commander plus 2x that much mana from the altar then just sac the geistcatcher last to get all those creatures back along with any etbs they might have (you took a lot of those out but it can be more impactful if you maintain a bit of the mill theme). Also gravecrawler just does absolutely everything this deck wants to do, plus if you get rooftop storm out with a sac outlet he sacrifices himself for mana and zombies infinitely.

[@christianarenas7839]

Great video! Currently building him as well so this helped a lot. Looking forward to the $300 upgrade one!

[@rculver101]

I played this deck out of the box a few times... was massively flooded both times, and had no zombie creatures in the graveyard. It just completely stalled out. Looking forward to your high budget upgrade vid! Thanks.

[@0ViciousV0]

Its because theres like 40 lands in it, i took out like 6 lands and added other cards, this deck doesnt need 40 lands maybe 36 AT MOST I cut it to 34

[@d-swagg9683]

You tripping about dark salvation man. Can't count how many times I've cast this for 1 mana and done away with even indestructible creatures. Mostly in modern. But still. The xx cost is literally just optional if you have mana to throw away into an extra token or two. But this is a 1 mana, unconditional removal for a zombie deck that kills indestructible. I call that all value my friend. Also, where's your cryptbreaker, nantuko husk, gravecrawler? A cheap combo machine like nantuko husk with cards like poppet stitcher, gravecrawler+rooftop storm, etc. I was really surprised it wasn't included. I also included relentless dead for similar reasons to gravecrawler. Plus the option recursion that comes from that one.

[@EpicWin1337]

Zombie apocalypse is mass recursion that incidentally kills random stuff my opponents have its also flavortown and that's worthwhile to me. I like it as a way to reverse a board wipe and get you back into the game.

[@allihavearepasta-basedthou2890]

Giving a card the name 'Ghouls' Night Out' and not giving me some fun flavour text is criminal.

[@TheChurdle2]

With the right board state, Undead Alchemist can actually be a super powerful piece. If I get that and Hordewing Skaab out at the same time, and none of my opponents have flying/reach, you can easily mill through about half their decks in a couple of turns and create a giant zombie token army, then sac UA to Wilhelt, and send your flying zombie tokens out for the kill.

[@flowdaflava6574]

I also have 2 main wincons. I added Alter of dementia and Phenax to drive home mill if possible, but I also have noxious ghoul to -1/-1 to the ends of the earth to make major zombie production a clean slate scenario. Poppet stitcher is also pretty sick later in the game

[@yuen4817]

Thanks for the video!

[@sorenagernakk8432]

Forgotten Creation belongs in a madness deck. Depending on what's in your hand and what you might be able to play from the graveyard this card could be insane.

[@MTGAlpha]

I cut Ruthless Deathfang so fast I forgot it even came with the deck. It’s still a very fun and powerful precon love it

[@Blackopsreporter1232]

that hour of eternity makes a token copy of the card you exile not just 4/4 black zombie that is the additional traits they receive.

[@flowdaflava6574]

Fun story about zombie apocalypse. I’ve been upgrading the Undead unleashed deck lately. So I’m low on life, opponents have some flyers. My only way out of my predicament is a damnation. Throw that down. YET…sword of feast and famine is attached to Wilhelt. He lives, attacks, I get my mana back, throw down zombie apocalypse with my rejuvenated mana on post combat main, grabbed 9 assorted zombies from the graveyard to throw down. Needless to say…I actually lost that game. Goblin bombardment sent me crying back to the crypt with my recently revived pals. Fun game though and really cool to see just how synergistic this deck can be at times. Too bad they come in tapped though.

[@joshholmes1372]

Definitely some better lands to cut. Like all the tap lands...talk about tempo killer. Maybe I missed it, but gray merchant should be an auto include.

[@noneofyourbusiness792]

To get the most value out of Forgotten Creation you’ll need paradox haze or something that copies the upkeep trigger. To go through all of that is a waste of time unless your whole deck is about breaking upkeep.

[@ekarios4028]

Gravespawn sovereign can work very well if you add Noosegraf mob as noosegraf mob allows you to put one zombie token each time an opponent casts a spell, and then it dies when you cast the fifth zombie token. However as he dies you can tap the five zombies produced this way and return noosegraf mob to the battlefield with gravespawn sovereign's ability and just keep on doing more tokens.

[@Rteezy2012]

Think the milling is more for Gisa and Geralf commander. Get them on the battlefield and then rooftop storm to play zombies from your hand and graveyard(once during each of your turns) for free gets out of control very quickly lol sacrificing certain zombies with favorable casting triggers/abilities then resummoning them for the same ability is great. Fleshbag marauder is one i use just to force them to sacrifice a creature every time i bring him back. Still have plenty of zombie tokens to sacrifice for that and other effects. Gravespawn sovereign is great with a lot of tokens because tapping 5 out of 12 zombie tokens is an easy choice to make to get to bring another zombie or two back that turn.

[@xDukii]

Is this dwight schrute and jim? holy shit

[@choladeva]

Wait. Acerak can go into any dungeon? It says to go into a specific one on the card, no?

[@GuysThatMagic]

It only states it goes back in your hand if you haven’t completed that specific dungeon. “Venture into the dungeon” is the mechanic to go into any dungeon.

[@Svergara1]

Just got this at Walmart for 31 bucks….so very interested in these upgrades!

[@lanesteele240]

Aethersprouts is a good card. I have seen it wipe a tone of attacking tokens out of the game and put that player 5 turns behind.

[@cdude665]

it's not a good card lol. Yea of course almost every mtg card can have moments where it looks really good. But 9 times out of 10 you wish it was something else

[@lanesteele240]

@@cdude665 take it out then. I will leave it in mine.

[@lanesteele240]

Just keep using the exact same cards over and over and over. Always choose only the s tier removal. Make all your decks look and play the same. Drone on and on. Make commander boring

[@regshowfan1600]

5:05 This spell is great it fills your graveyard (great for zombie decks) and makes you some tokens

[@eliamagri7413]

no man it is really really bad...

[@regshowfan1600]

@@eliamagri7413 great refutation backed by reasons.

[@eliamagri7413]

Ok sorry, so it costs too much. Of course it is graveyard filler, and a token maker, of course it will give you some value, did you expect a spell to do nothing? But it costs too much. Let say you pay 5 mana to cast it. Which are already a respectable cost. Well, it is very likely that you will hit 0 or jus 1 creature. Pretty dull for 5 mana... Let say you want to pay more. 8 mana. You will probably hit 3 or 4 creatures, 5 if you are very very lucky. Then you will make 5 tokens. (again, if you are lucky, if not you could still hit 0 creatures). For 8 mana. Usually 8 mana spell win you the game. You can cast obliterate for 8 mana. But talking about zombies, there is for example army of the damned. 8 mana, make 13 zombie tokens, and you can cast it again from your gy. Lets not even talk about spending more mana than that, it becomes a ridicule conversation. Drawned in dreams and altar of dementia are perfect mill/graveyard filler for whilhelt, even wincon if you have rooftop storm and gravecrawler combo. The fact is that you would think you will hit a bunch of creatures when you cast this spell, but the reality is you dont. Even if a deck has a ton of creature, they will still be around 35. And an average theck has far less than that.

[@eliamagri7413]

@@regshowfan1600 wait... why are you talking about damnable pact? I'm missing something...

[@regshowfan1600]

@@eliamagri7413 i am talking about dredge summons

[@christoskontos4779]

I like grave pact better the the clunky mana version yours is. Does the same thing for 3 mana. I also have a crypt gyst cause i sometimes need more ramp in this deck. I use carion feeder pharax ultar and grave crawler combo. With some tutors to just win games. Other then the roof top arch combo. Get one zombie to hit everyone for 1 life infinitely. Cool combos i have fun with it

[@poofypeanut0221]

Pretty sure this is my first time seeing your guys channel, I enjoyed the video (and the length). Curious why the second guy doesn’t talk much though? lol. The bouncing back and forth on a podcast is important IMO and wanted to hear more from his side too.

[@mysteri0u5]

cool

[@psychoabattoirhorror]

Forgotten Creation works better with Niv-mizzet type decks. I've tried making it work in zombie decks and it just doesn't,

[@FAMILYDESPARD]

Not adding relentless dead or grave crawler??? Hopefully that's in the $300 upgrade video that I haven't watched yet.

[@supranova7594]

I'm going to assume it's in the 300 gravegrawler sees modern play and is quite expensive and relentless dead is just an auto include in most zombie tribals making him decently priced. Not to mention cuz this deck was apparently so popular and easy to upgrade with combos for both generals a lot of zombie card prices have gone up from 150% to even 300% making most of these budget type videos already outdated as they no longer meet the budget restrictions

[@Bruhecc]

Could I just kinda… well… swap out the commander for the scarab god?

[@Bruhecc]

Ok thanks for the heart and all but yes or no…?

[@acydrayn73]

I mean pretty much, you'd wanna make swaps for stuff that scarab god loves probably, but really not super different.

[@ZysT_VaaL]

Can you substitute The Scarab God as the commander for this deck?

[@eliamagri7413]

no gravecrawler? are you crazy?

[@memevarg2530]

Not really focused on the zombie tribal theme...

[@carlospadilla7247]

Arcane denial is better than counterspell

[@randyb4191]

Please spend the money to get like a $30 microphone so you don't sound like you're underwater. The classic snow ball works but at least like a hypercast solo.

[@anendlessjourney3298]

Got the Greg Doucette intro lol.

[@GuysThatMagic]

Old intro that was just some presets! Haha

[@SanjayKumar-ne8cc]

Can't you just pay x=0 for dark salvation? Should get rid of of many creatures with a bunch of zombies in the battlefield for and that for just one black mana.

[@elvisleong6358]

Only if they're playing loads of zombies too. Dark salvation gives -1/-1 equal to the number of zombies that player controls.

[@Eboncross316]

@@elvisleong6358 I'm pretty sure "that player" refers to the target player making the zombie tokens i.e. yourself. So it does not matter how many zombies the other player has.

[@elvisleong6358]

@@Eboncross316I don't quite follow. Doesn't 'That Player' and 'Target Player' refer to the same entity in this situation. Say I have 6 zombies and my opponent has none, but has a 6/6 creature I want to get rid of, in order for me to remove it 'that player', in this case my opponent, needs to have at least 6 zombies for the second part to trigger, and if they have none, I would need to pay 13 mana to create 6 2/2 zombies on his side, and THEN have the 6/6 get 6 -1/-1 counters. I might be misunderstanding what you're saying tbh HAHAHAHH

[@collectionconnection3722]

@@elvisleong6358 you’re reading it wrong

[@SanjayKumar-ne8cc]

@Elvis Leong You first target yourself and create x zombies Then you target a creature ( in this case you target a creature opponents controls) Then the creature gets -1/-1 for each zombie The targeted player ( in this case yourself) controls

[@lorinlankins3004]

Can we get an upgrade w Video for grave danger

[@GuysThatMagic]

Unfortunately we weren’t going to do the starter decks. Sorry!

[@DS-gu1lt]

Undead war chief doesn’t really worth it. It became too expensive. Grave Titan is 10 dollars and much Michelle more officiant.

[@joshholmes1372]

I actually won off of undead alchemist milling and making a shit ton of zombies

[@agrocreepers7710]

YALL UNDERESTIMATE TEMPO PLAYS IN COMMANDER

[@ZoroRodrigoMonster]

Yes, but I want to know why specificlly you said that?

[@carlospadilla7247]

It's either an aggro deck or a combo deck how do tempo play help?