Undeniable Proof That Vegans are Dumb Af

[@GradeAUnderA]

🌎 Get an exclusive 15% discount on Saily data plans! Use code gradea at checkout. Download Saily app or go to saily.com/gradea ⛵ Can you think of any group more annoying than vegans that I should make a video on? Drop a comment and I might do so. Peace bois.

[@dejus_e]

ok

[@sun_neq]

Frat guys, hate em.

[@mateuszdziewierz2938]

eating animals is right

[@bourbon2242]

I would say vegetarians are more annoying

[@VinnieMotianStudios]

Teachers that are allways angrey for no reason

[@mataengendroz1]

As a former vegan who had a Whatsapp group with other vegans, I remember someone called me a fascist for feeding meat to my cat, when they are literally OBLIGATE CARNIVORES, others just had opinions I agreed with but most expressed it in such an obnoxious and annoying way

[@FreeTheDonbas]

Humans are obligate carnivores too...

[@alexalexandru691]

​@@FreeTheDonbaswrong. Humans are omnivores, meaning we can and should eat both meat and plant to be healthy

[@Madi_Ernar]

And i have some people in my group where we do some spiritual stuff, who used to be vegan. They quit due to health complications.

[@solidskullz5736]

A lot of vegans are straight up delusional. I’ve seen them try and keep going children and infants on vegan diets only for those kids to ends up malnourished and looking like skeletons

[@BossOfAllTrades]

@@alexalexandru691We still can’t survive without meat or dairy, The only reason vegans do is because they take supplements that are not natural.

[@chris9344]

throwback to when he talked about vegan gains

[@adidasfan360]

I picture the red dominatrix chess piece giving the yellow, submissive chess piece a bit of footwork.

[@heiwaire5496]

Are you real​@@adidasfan360

[@zlenko999]

Vegan gains is now a symbol

[@8thgod769]

Ahh YESSSSSS VEGAN GAINS

[@giothestupidass4136]

Vegan gains, never heard that name in years

[@SIRO_GLYDER]

My aunts a vegan and asked our local vegan Facebook chat if she can eat eggs that are ethically sourced (I pamper my chickens) and they banned her 😭

[@wooper2654]

LMAO

[@Kuson2]

I'll take that as a yes then lol did her a favor.

[@Bingo2501]

@@SIRO_GLYDER crazy fantatics 🤦‍♂️

[@messyg-tar2251]

Seriously though, eggs literally are a by-product if living a good life. They otherwise just sit there. So why can't we eat them?

[@jdw0426]

"They" being all vegans? Sounds like a loser admin, not a vegan-exclusive problem

[@Misto_deVito6009]

1:13 tbf, apex predators are enormously important. Especially since there are less of them, and not just sharks

[@dylanbyrne9866]

Killer whales would actually be an apex predator, not sharks

[@ThunderXSurge]

​@@dylanbyrne9866Depends on the ecosystem, orcas don't live everywhere

[@XxYoShIkOgAkIxX]

shh.. don't tell him or he will delete the video. Man this channel turned out to be a complete shit. How can one spend hours of cutting a video and 0 hours of using your brain to think.

[@shuckLedurkins]

NNNNNEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDDDD

[@GhostG0981]

True we already tried wiping out wolves in an area and it backfired so bad they had to bring them back. TLDR don't try to play god and let nature do it's thing

[@parsa..]

Why ‘apex predators’ shouldn’t be killed: Each organism fulfils an ecological niche. This just means that they ensure a functional ecosystem dynamic. For example, tertiary predators such as sharks, whilst they consume certain fish, they ensure that these fishes populations do not exponentially grow; if all sharks were eliminated, there would be cascading effects. These fish, which can now reproduce excessively, will be present in abundance within the population, leading to the food they consume substantially decreasing in quantity and so on. TLDR - Species biodiversity and ecosystem harmony requires these apex predators.

[@Google_Censored_Commenter]

Except when the predators have so little competition that they cause several species to go extinct, ya know, as happens all the time. And even if we accept your flawed, overgeneralized argument, it still doesn't account for why we can't kill *some* apex predators, even just killing a few hundred will save millions of animal lives. Nature does not care to be just or minimizing suffering, it only cares about maximizing reproduction. So it's utterly naive to think that there's no way for humans to improve the lives of animals in virtually every single ecosystem. you're just being lazy to justify your current lifestyle.

[@thebigcheese8715]

Except ticks. They're a source of food at the detriment of everything else. Atleast mosquitoes actually having something to offer

[@saskiaviking9447]

Except the apex, apex predator: man (according to vegans)

[@hitfromcs]

arent wasps useless too?

[@bennettfender9927]

@@hitfromcsAs much as I despise wasp they are actually very important pollinators and control pest insects like caterpillars for example they are indeed very important for the ecosystem.

[@SuperFoxGamingx]

The thing I don’t understand is how it’s ‘immoral’ to wear animal fur, but isn’t it more immoral to kill an animal and NOT put its whole body to use? It’s more moral to eat and wear animals than to just eat and discard the rest.

[@jackkeightley5788]

In fur farms, animals are raped into existence simply to be killed for their fur. Don't kill animals at all.

[@2DucksInABomberJacket]

Im no vegan and I'm actually entirely agaist the lifestyle, but furs can be a weird one Furs and skins commonly come from animals we don't need to be mass killing because we don't eat them as much as we kill them, like foxes and other canines, crocodiles and other reptiles, ect Quiet often they're just killing them, taking their skin and doing nothing more with the flesh because the market is so damn large There are ways to humanely farm skins though. Just like you said, taking the skin from mass produced meats so they actually fit the demand

[@thatguythere6161]

I think it’s the same argument against shark finning. There’s many cases where it’s killing animals who wouldn’t otherwise be killed, just for the one valuable part of them. Sure, if you kill a cow for food and then also make a leather jacket out of the skin, then there’s no more harm done from the jacket, but there’s other animals who are just killed for clothing. And the other reason is that they could just be uncomfortable being reminded of the death of the animal. The same reason we don’t use human skin for leather making, despite the fact it would otherwise not go to use in a grave.

[@cleoraasaran9957]

That's because the animal isn't killed, and then they skin it. The animal is skinned WHILE it is alive. And then maybe, just maybe they eat it after.

[@jdw0426]

Animals are raised specifically to grow certain furs

[@-NGC-6302-]

Poor guy never learned about the consequences of removing predators from an ecosystem

[@Kay_OC]

who's gonna tell him?

[@ramenface_________________]

Freaking bunnies, everywhere, eating up all the greenery

[@Wikarian99PL]

Yeah, imagine Europe full of J*ws

[@johnwhinston4626]

Probably the same things that happens when you remove humans as a predator or provide an abundantly large food source for hard to control pests

[@Wikarian99PL]

Yeah, imagine Europe full of Je...

[@MacNava]

If ThatVeganTeacher reacts to this, she is just gonna prove Grade’s points more and more

[@gregory_longjohns]

her content is satire

[@OrcaAssociation]

Here before she does eventually

[@ThePC007]

She’s gonna absolutely grade him…

[@FH4Player6397]

@@gregory_longjohns Fuck no.

[@kaidenhall2718]

I haven’t heard that name in ages

[@Willy_Milano]

Have you considered that maybe vegans don't love animals like they say, but instead hate plants? Maybe the reason that they don't eat animals is because they don't ever want to waste a good opportunity to kill one of those damned plants, and their hatred takes root back to the time they caught their mom with a cucumber or a carrot.

[@speedos]

Have you considered that you are mentally ill? You have come to that conclusion based on nothing.

[@MichaelRosasco]

Lmfao

[@nilsadelsbach8556]

They deliberately lose in PvZ, so they can watch the zombies eat the plants.

[@KangasniemiJerri]

Veganism isn’t about minimising animal suffering, it’s about not condoning the exploitation of animals by humans, arguing that we can make a conscious choice not to cause unnecessary harm. A predator eating another animal is the natural order. Humans exploitation, vegans argue, is not. And most people would agree to some extent based on what animal we’re talking about. In the western world, if one would breed dogs for their meat, most people would call them a monster. With pigs or cows however, it’s just another day and just another farmer. And no, I’m not vegan.

[@Aanthanur]

yeah our speciecism is enorm. i remember on national TV a reporter tried Hamster or something like that, an animal that in our country is a pet for kids, and there was huge outrage she did that. despite us killing cute little baby pigs and cows because they give the best meat.

[@jsquared1013]

That description does not apply to the vast majority of vegans that you'll encounter in the wild (and by wild, I mean dense urban area). If it was solely about "reducing exploitation" then they wouldn't be against ethically farmed eggs and dairy products and they wouldn't be against hunters. Yet go online and you see vegans literally making death threats on social media posts by hunters.

[@A.Froster]

Human exploitation = eating any kind of animal meat , no matter its source. That's where it becomes stupid.

[@A.Froster]

Human exploitation = eating any kind of animal meat , no matter its source. That's where it becomes stupid.

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

Bla bla bla. Just eat meat like a normal person. Animals are made by our lord to feast us.

[@davidanttila9305]

Today's leather isn't even leather. It's just factory made vinal from processed synthetic materials that produce horrible for the environment waste and pollution. In all honesty grade, I would take all natural fabrics in my car any day if i had the option. That way, i would know that when i opened the door, i wasn't breathing in toxic air during the peak heat of summer, and my car was baking in the sun when parked outside.

[@kaingates]

That's not true at all. Real leather exists in shoes, car fabrics and clothing. It's just really expensive because we've found cheaper shoes. I have real leather shoes and gloves and an old leather jacket. And I'm pretty sure I only have one fake leather belt while the rest are real leather.

[@davidanttila9305]

@kaingates Car and shoe leather is not all natural animal. They are factory leather, aka vinyls. I know the difference I own a vintage jacket made from real animal leather.

[@legendarymystery7638]

I went onto Reddit to ask this question to a bunch of vegans and pretty much all of them were "That's the Animals' problem," "The animals we don't eat are not in the wild, they're in farms being killed," "I don't want to grow fat and die at a young age"

[@williamjktkd]

because sharks are needed for the ecosystem grade...

[@alaandre004]

Grade on vegans? 2016 is back baby

[@anapple6912]

i guess you could say that history repeats itself

[@svedrics]

Yeah so in other words... an outdated view on vegans... He needs to move with the times.

[@Prespanda]

@@svedrics found the sensitive vegan

[@mirror1643]

very 2016 today

[@afturburn]

My sister used to be vegan in college. After like 2 years she realized how insufferable she was and decided to just eat healthy in general

[@doggowithbigolears3180]

Do people not understand that this video is just poking fun? Like basically all of his videos always have been?

[@doejhonny]

Can tell they didn't watch the full video.

[@FoxRants]

Judging from the comments, there's a lot of them who don't understand. Smh.

[@ghoulbuster1]

They are tourists that don't watch grade.

[@Aanthanur]

its not funny this time, and just him being extremely ignorant and stupid. usually his videos are funny as hell. this and the last ones are not funny. its like Joe Rogan jokes, its just ranting, not funny.

[@Aanthanur]

@@ghoulbuster1 BS, i watched all of his videos, i usually love his humor.

[@_Tzer]

plants are living creatures too.

[@trollsansofficial]

And by eating them you're eating the food of other animals

[@avidacorounia1696]

they arent sentient they cant feel pain they neither have a brain too

[@Nova-2836]

Ngl, probably the one time GradeA has a poor take :/ I'm pretty sure the whole thing about loving animals is about being against humans' mass production of animal products. Sharks aren't killing to feed a population of sharks - just the one shark. (I'm not vegan, but that doesn't mean I can't be properly educated in the subject)

[@moistheathen148]

6:27 Vegan leather exists, and both types of leather end up in a landfill. The difference is that since genuine leather eventually rots, it’s healthy for the environment, but vegan leather is made of plastic and doesn’t rot, and is therefore bad for the environment. So if you’re going for any leather at all, make it genuine leather.

[@MrBrewman95]

And it is not durable or long lasting at all. I got a faux leather chair for my room and pieces are falling apart not even 6 months in of having it.

[@conalllynch7840]

Animal leather is also bad for the environment, Cattle are the biggest component of agricultural emissions. The CO2e emissions of faux leather is still less than real leather. Plastic is still a problem but there is nuance there.

[@jsquared1013]

@@conalllynch7840 slightly more emitted CO2, which eventually dissipates or gets used by plants, vs petroleum forever chemicals that don't biodegrage and will stay in landfills for millennia 🤔

[@JackPorter]

@@conalllynch7840 to add to the other dudes point, leather is a byproduct. The meat is why the cattle industry is so massive.

[@AsbestosCigar]

Armadillo hide jacket once protect me form back stab from dull blade however my back hurt.

[@jeffsmith5436]

So glad Grade A is back! I still go back and watch his stuff from years back and it’s STILL absolutely f(fart noise)ing hilarious

[@gabbage2611]

Look I’m not vegan but like, this video is just a miss for me. Like come on, when was the last time someone choosing to not eat animal product actually impacted your life at all? Hating on vegans is just such an unusual and old fashioned mentality, this is up there with those anti feminism “feminist gets owned compilation” videos. I like ya vids grade, but this would’ve been funny when I was 13 and I’m surprised you’re still making videos like this

[@TheVeganSceptic]

Mate, your comedy? Chef’s kiss as always. Your arguments? Flimsier than tofu in a tornado! 😂 🦈 *Sharks and the Predator Paradox* *Empathy ≠ Endorsement:* Saving a shark isn’t the same as endorsing the suffering it causes to other fish. It’s an act of empathy, not approval of predation. Humans don’t give sharks weapons or cheer them on for hunting-it’s just nature doing what it does. Predation is just one part of a highly chaotic and brutal system-not some harmonious ideal. *Ethical Reduction:* If we could safely and ethically reduce predator populations without harming ecosystems, I’d support it. A hypothetical “button” to end predation and minimize suffering? I’d press it in a heartbeat. *The Matrix of Suffering:* Nature’s inherent cruelty suggests deeper issues to me-perhaps we exist in a kind of “hellish amnesia matrix” where suffering is designed (demiurge?) or perpetuated by forces indifferent or hostile to sentient life. If this "resonates", I explore it further on my channel. 😡 *“Vegans Are Angry and Rude”* *Double Standards:* People often get mad that vegans are upset about eggs or factory farming, but then get even angrier at us for being upset. That’s some scrambled logic. What’s even more ironic? Many of these same people might passionately condemn events like the Yulin Dog Festival while failing to see the contradiction or hypocrisy with the animals they eat. *Voice for the Voiceless:* Animals can’t cry for help on Twitter. Vegans speak up for those who can’t. Passion isn’t anger-it’s compassion in action. *Not All Vegans Are Angry:* Most of us prefer chill convos about ethics, health, and sustainability-no yelling, no drama. But let’s be real: hearing the same debunked arguments a million times over, presented as if they’re groundbreaking (which, by the way, you’re also doing with these videos-though I do appreciate the valuable conversations they spark), is bound to test anyone’s patience. If non-vegans were faced with this scenario, maybe they’d be more upset too. 😉 💊 *Health Myths: Weak Vegans?* *Deficiency Debunked:* Omnivores are more likely to suffer from deficiencies like B12, iron, calcium, and iodine for fact. Why? Because animals don’t magically produce these nutrients-they get them from plants or supplements. *B12 Basics:* B12 isn’t made by animals; it comes from bacteria in soil and water. Livestock are often given B12 supplements themselves, so omnivores are just eating the middleman. Fun fact: most B12 gets destroyed during cooking, which helps explain why nearly 40% of Americans are deficient-a number that could be even higher if measured using stricter standards, like in Japan. Vegans skip the inefficiency and go straight to fortified foods or a simple supplement where we have much more control over the quality of the supplemennt. No middleman, no problem. *Plant Power:* Every essential nutrient comes from plants. Leafy greens, nuts, seeds, grains, and legumes provide all the iron, zinc, and calcium you need-minus the cholesterol and health risks linked to meat-heavy diets. *Manliness Myth:* Then why was one of the world’s strongest men, Patrik Baboumian, is vegan. What’s more “manly” than crushing strength-based world records without eating animals? *Reality Check:* If animal products are so “nutrient-rich,” why are most supplement and pharmaceutical buyers omnivores? Plants in general nourish without causing harm-no middleman (or middle-cow) required. 🛋 *Leather Hate!* lol I’ll give you this! *Dead Cow Sofas:* Sweaty, squeaky, grossly overrated and overpriced! Why flex "luxury dead cow skin sofas" when plush vegan fabrics are breathable, plush and guilt-free! Comfort and compassion! 🍔 *The Bigger Picture* *“Natural Order” ≠ Ethics:* Lions hunt, kill cubs, and mate by force. Want to copy that too? Didn’t think so. *Taste vs. Life:* Choosing/voting multiple times daily for just %5-10 improved taste (in many cases) over billions of sentient being’s life? That’s the real “dumb” move perhaps. *Crop Death Myth:* Farming plants for humans kill far fewer animals than funneling crops through livestock. Basic math. *Tradition Isn’t Truth:* Meat-eating is “normal”? So were slavery and sexism. Progress is kind of the point. 💯 *Veganism ≠ Perfectionism* *It’s About Doing What’s Possible:* Veganism isn’t about being perfect; it’s about causing less harm where we can. Simple as that. Living 100% animal-free is tough, but ditching the big stuff-meat, dairy, eggs, leather etc.-isn’t. Progress > Perfection. *Future-Proofing:* The more people go vegan, the more compassionate options emerge. Small changes matter. Anyhow, sorry for my long ADHD response xD I'll be honest and say that, as a fan, I love your jokes and videos but your logic when it comes to these topics may need some "gains". Cheers!

[@TheVeganSceptic]

@MateoGutierrez-j9h So what if a non-native speaker used ChatGPT to organize his long comment for better and smarter communication with GradeA and others? Nice counter-argument though and you're very welcome. 😉

[@TheVeganSceptic]

​@RichardsGaySon Thank you! I’ve seen him reply to comments while I was typing my comment, and since he uploads videos less frequently, there’s a chance he might take the time to read through thoughtful replies like this one, so I’m hopeful that he read it. I caught his video the moment it dropped by luck and worked quickly to craft the best possible comprehensive response and then organized it to be as easy to follow as possible. Having watched most of his videos though, this video of his comes across to me as another classic brilliant satire/shitpost/rage bait, that he used after probably seeing his part 1 video didn't perform as well as he expected perhaps and again, I do appreciate a lot the conversations these videos generate. So, I didn’t write this just for him, it's also for anyone else reading. I hope at least a good amount of people saw it and that it sparks curiosity or gives others a chance to see our perspective the way I intended! Cheers!

[@broken_spine2644]

A vegan ew

[@Potatosayno]

I mean, yeah, pretty much! Great comment! As a Vegan though, I have to express my dislike of the vegan community in general. Many vegan communities are downright toxic and closed minded, where discussion is repeating the same words some influencer said without sources, or being bombarded with insults. I have concluded that the best way to be vegan is to research stuff myself and make my own choices, not let some influencer tell me what to eat/not to eat. So I definitely get the argument for "vegans are mean". Although, I'm sure they're just bad apples that give a bad name for all vegans.

[@Sovvyy]

This is great!

[@NicoDiAngelo-02]

0:44 you got me

[@perditionedpossum5372]

Cheeky cunt ain’t he? Haha!! I knew in that split second frame it was gunna be PornHub or something

[@ByFrezcoh]

I’m glad i found out that you upload again, thank you for uploading again bro i missed your videos😂

[@theslyngl]

Vegans want to minimize animal suffering by not financially supporting animal products which are produced under horrendous conditions. You making this either bad faith or embarrasingly ignorant video "clowning" on vegans - well that supports that industry and harms animals further. Pathetic.

[@Angasmoboss]

What are vegans gonna do the animal is already dead what they gonna do. JUST FKIN EAT IT

[@Roscoe03160107]

There were so many red herrings. #1. Most vegans argue that animal cruelty must be stopped by humans, not by other animals. Most of us know we can't force our morals on beings that don't have the capacity to understand or act.

[@BurntCookiesYT]

No, most of us realize we can force our morals on beings that don't have the capacity to understand or act. We do this by giving babies vaccines, for instance. Harm can be justified if later harm is prevented; our actions reflect that

[@chrisprilloisebola]

Learn what a 'red herring' means before using it.

[@Roscoe03160107]

@@chrisprilloisebola "...diverting attention from the real issue by focusing instead on an issue having only a surface relevance to the first." The definition of red herring was a first page Google search, and Google pulled it from The University of Texas Department of Philosophy. Grade said vegans desire to always help animals, and our desire is hypocritical due to animal-on-animal violence. Animal-on-animal violence is the diversion. We don't make that argument.

[@chrisprilloisebola]

@Roscoe03160107 yeah and that isn't applicable here. He isn't trying to divert anything, just addressing what he views as arguments from vegans. I don't think he ever said 'always' there. Also, I have seen some vegans say they want to see animal suffering reduced. And there it is, 'we don't make that argument'. Nonsense. You don't speak for everyone, now do you? And neither does Grade, but he's just addressing a point he's seen vegans make. Notice how he didn't speak in absolutes? So, no there isn't a diversion

[@topiasperamaki]

Yeah but so many people still say to me: "What you're gonna make a lion eat veggies?".... Sometimes there's just no hope for humanity lol

[@MMoturi22]

Literal 5th grader arguments

[@doctorduck2000]

Hello dearly beloved GradeAUnderA, I was wondering what the "ba-da DA" sound at 0:24 is, and where you got it from. I've heard it many times but I can't put my finger on what it's from. All the best, Duck

[@deprecated8036]

I also want to know where this is from

[@EliseDaSnareChick]

Reading Rainbow, when kids would talk about books they read

[@EliseDaSnareChick]

​​@@deprecated8036Reading Rainnow, during the kids' segment when they talk about books they recommend!

[@shiruotakuno28]

I knew exactly what you were talking about without having to hear it

[@JelloFluoride]

This​@@EliseDaSnareChick

[@brettbat]

Grade is a treasure. He's been just giving us these things to critically think about, life lessons, tips & comedy gold for just over a decade now.

[@danthecarman3424]

Ok I see your point on leather with sofas and coats and stuff, but it's really useful for making other things like protective clothing for metalwork, horse saddles, belts, gloves, work boots, etc, stuff that it doesn't really matter how breathable or hot it is and is in some ways a benefit, so leather does still need to be a thing just maybe not for fashion or seating

[@BlazeIOS]

I'm not a vegan but i think the first 2 points of this video are a bit disingenuous. In my country there are a lot of Vegans and Vegetarians, and they usually cite minimizing animal suffering of INDUSTRIAL meat industry done by HUMANS. A shark/predator cannot survive on plants alone nor do sharks overfish whole sea fish populations to the point of extinction. Animals can't choose what they consume whereas human can substitute a lot of vitamins and minerals on a vegetarian/vegan diet. I also consume meat but am offering a reasonable argument a vegan would make and I get that this channel is hyperbolic in nature and people enjoy dunking on militant vegans (who I agree, are real nutters) but they do not represent a majority of that group.

[@javacrow7396]

It's actually a fair point, he's taking something to it's logical conclusion. Shout-out to vegan gains for saying hat wolves should be thrown in jail for eating other animals.

[@senorpepper3405]

I could be a vegetarian but not a vegan

[@chrisprilloisebola]

I've seen many vegans even say having your own farm also isn't good. So no, not disingenuous

[@BlazeIOS]

@@chrisprilloisebola I phrased my original comment wrong, sorry for that, meant to include Industrial farming and any animal killing done by humans vs Grades point about sharks killing fish, which vegans mostly would not critisize. But yeah, farming of any kind for vegans is a nogo I agree :)

[@chrisprilloisebola]

@BlazeIOS so it isn't just industrial then? Lmao. And still don't see why a shark would be treated differently then say those who live isolated and relying on their farm.

[@stevejames7930]

It’s funny how vegans are actually quite chill and people accusing vegans of getting mad are actually the ones getting mad

[@emmasardroos7959]

so true !

[@charskull]

Nah its just the like few vegans online. And also every single vegan you serve in hospitality that are pricks. The rest are ok

[@prvtcaboose]

I wouldn't call it "chill" when you are telling everyone that you are a vegan, that you should be one too, and that if you're not vegan then you are contributing to climate change, animal cruelty, and hate. That's not chill. And some of the chillest people I know are meat eaters, lol. Mainly because they aren't deficient in some vitamins and minerals, so they're not unbalanced.

[@kvj1989]

They arent though, they think they are superior then the rest but they are GIANT hypocrites.

[@Sfirezx]

So Im glad you had a good experience ...I just wish your experiences dictated the rest of the majority that's been reported. Ignorant shortsighted shite.

[@Mentosman321]

To quote the great Micheal Bluth, "You are aware that they don't remove it from the cow surgically, right?"

[@bazerger6258]

Leather does have the durability factor too, i used to have wallets for my keys, that the keys would work their way through the side of from the inside in about a year, causing them to start cutting the fabric of my pockets, then i got one in leather... that was 20 years ago, i still use it, leather is still completely fine, though the metal holding one of the metal hooks has gotten worn down, so it fell out.

[@connorfries8297]

1:37 Something to note here is your perception of the 2 situations, saving the shark who eats fish and eating fish yourself. You view this situation through a utilitarian lense, which dictates that whichever decision has the better outcome is the better decision. If this circumstance is instead viewed through a deontological lense, one which states that certain actions, such as lying or stealing, are never ethical, even if they cause a net positive outcome, and that ethical actions, like saving a life, should be done even if it causes a net negative. Love the video overall, but I don’t think the vegans are completely irrational for this bit. Great work as always, Grade!

[@TheReaverOfDarkness]

If you cull apex predators, their prey will explode in number. Sometimes this will result in the remaining predators having an overabundance of food, causing them to explode in numbers and making the prey numbers dwindle to unsafe lows. Other times the prey may take up new ecological niches and destroy ecosystems which previously weren't in any danger. If you want to actively help animals, the best thing you can do in most cases is to help bring their ecosystem closer to the way it was before humans intervened with them.

[@zeljkothegreekserb]

Sacrificing one cow to eat for weeks or months - awful, sacrificing TENS OF THOUSANDS of rabbits, squirells, other smaller mammals, birds,etc. for a hectare of grain fields - progressive!!1

[@GraveUypo]

lol where the **** can you find thousands of wild rabbits in an hectare?

[@zeljkothegreekserb]

@@GraveUypo Obviously not in a single moment, but over years and decades. Grain fields aren't there for just three days and then turned back into a forest, they are there for decades or hundreds of years being covered with glyphosate and pesticides several times a year.

[@maaaaaap]

totally not a strawman

[@Iam-not-VEGAN-but-]

When you can't do a search for facts so you come up with a fantasy. Can you provide a single source? And that would not be a balance of evidence, but you would have to actually know more. You have the internet already. It seems your position is against deforestation which just shows how little you've reached into the topic without considering wild animal suffering. And this limited fantasy that cows don't eat grain, anyway so limited.

[@shiruotakuno28]

​@@GraveUypo Australia, that's where.

[@jebornthegod]

As many already have mentioned. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose". And the reason this is not applicapable to other animals is because we have the capasity to know that what we are doing is wrong. If we can choose another food or clothing that have drastically less amounts of suffering connected to it, without an enormous effort, I think we have the obligation to choose that product. We can not hold a shark accountable for killing other animals, but we can hold ourselves accountable. When it comes to rude vegans, I must say that all movements have rude people in it and veganism is no different. We have a lot to work on, in that department, but I can see why that is to an extent. I could compare it to living in a world where everyone is partaking in slavery, or domestic abuse, or dog eating etc. And you see the issue in it and you know that it is wrong. This builds a frustration within you that can cause you to say stuff that would be considered rude. I am not saying it is the best thing to do, but I see why it is so prevelent within veganism.

[@fredflinstone3716]

This is a very deep controversial topic for so many reasons. There are so many variables at play. I could write a whole essay about this.

[@STRI92]

I love how I can't tell if this was made 4 hours ago, or 4 years ago. Good on ya' for not changing style GradeA!

[@Iam-not-VEGAN-but-]

sounds like a conservative

[@worldmilitarystats]

1. Veganism never claims to go out of your way to help animals, its to end human exploitation of animals to as much an extent as possible, a vegan is not obligated to 'help a shark', however they are obligated to not factory farm billions of animals. Also... you used a 'snuck premise fallacy' where you took a point of yours as a given and used it to propel something else. IE starting the claim by saying vegans wanted to help all animals. 2. Same goes here, there is nature, and there is human activity. Same reason I wouldn't kill a human, but will i jump in front of a guy with a gun to stop someone else dying? No of course not. 3. I'm not angry nor rude, actually. There are idiots in any community (including anti-vegans btw). Also a balanced vegan diet only needs to supplement B12, which is often fortified into food artificially, or you can take a supplement... so no deficiencies here 😀. 3a. Of course there's gonna be vegans that look malnourished and old, i can find many meat eaters that do the same, being vegan doesn't equal healthy, neither does eating meat. If you're vegan and eat sweets all day ofc you're gonna feel horrible. 4. No, it isn't, as i previously mentioned, there's a difference between staying out of it yourself, and going out of your way to end it with other animals, i don't see the need to interfere with nature. 4a. And also, killing Hitler may not be such a good idea btw. The rapid technological advancement during WW2 has likely saved many future lives, and counting.

[@PsychologySign]

If you need to eat supplements because of your diet, maybe that diet isn’t healthy

[@worldmilitarystats]

@@PsychologySign Well no that just isn't true, supplements in moderation can be part of a balanced diet. Meat eaters often supplement for things, and i don't hear people complain about that. Matter of fact the majority of vegans are probably healthier, theyre actually thinking about their food and not throwing random stuff together. (not all of course)

[@Sovvyy]

​@@PsychologySign If a supplement is required to make a "healthy diet", does it really matter? Also, we need context here, like the fact the average diet is incredibly unhealthy - Supplements or not.

[@PsychologySign]

@@Sovvyy yes the average diet is unhealthy but people on omnivorous diets have more options to get all the nutrients they need rather than a vegan who’s stuck on a less options to meet their nutritional requirements. Also think about it, this has been researched but there still may be some essential nutrients that a vegan diet may miss which we all don’t know about so I rather not take that risk and stick to my omnivore diet

[@PsychologySign]

@@worldmilitarystats I don’t see the point of needing to burden your life with supplements when veganism has been proven to not help the animal lives at all

[@duducasarotto9975]

My school once had a people come and say some lecture about veganism and the woman said you being teached wrong the food chain is not a piramid its a circle with all animals in it, and I was like since when a lion started to eat plants, then she got pissed and everyone laughed

[@Magst3r1]

You know, I'm not a vegan, but I definitely think that's it's the most moral option, and the more I see videos like this with the same shitty arguments and fallacies, the more I'm pushed to the other side. I'd really like a good argument for eating meat being moral as I really enjoy meat, but it doesn't seem like anyone has any beyond the same fallacies or personal attacks.

[@Aanthanur]

i feel real shame for my fellow meat eaters making such stupid arguments, which is ironic as science linked eeating meat to our big brains.

[@Xanthopathy]

Gross comment.

[@Magst3r1]

@@Xanthopathy How so?

[@lucioh1575]

Magst3r1 I appreciate your intellectual honesty.

[@yeetskeet907]

Personally i see hunting and having a small garden as the most moral way of getting food. Its not really an easy option for the majority of people unfortunatley.

[@Ar_sole_hair_fiddler]

I don't think Grade has heard of the Yellowstone Wolves analogy based on his first and second points. As the story goes, wolves were taken out of Yellowstone National Park's ecosystem for a period of time. This doomed the ecosystem as with no wolves, the deer population skyrocketed, which led to over-grazing, which meant soil erosion, which meant less trees and plants, which meant less beaver dams, which meant a period of flooding and droughts. When the wolves were reintroduced, all of these problems vanished, like a reverse domino effect. Grade has a very black and white view of nature. Predators in nature are there for a reason and should be protected. I think vegans want less animal suffering at the hands of humans, not necessarily less animal death.

[@WillieManga]

Here's a question I want to ask you, mate... 0:25 What. is. that. jingle?! I have been racking my brain for years about that and I have no idea what it is called! PLEASE TELL ME! I'm losing my mind over it!🙀

[@bazerger6258]

"Shark" isn't an apex predator, there's types of sharks that are, but they aren't all.

[@Musicmedia4421]

[Obligatory "You must be fun at parties" comment]

[@TechGorilla1987]

Tell that to the anchovies.

[@supermario7346]

Epic pownage xD

[@bazerger6258]

@@Musicmedia4421 well, not gonna be possible to disprove that i am, that requires me actually going to one

[@Merivio]

I'm vegan, and I would absolutely help a shark in that situation. A natural predator like a shark does not farm animals like we do, does not feed them drugs or antibiotics, perform selective breeding to make them so fat they can barely stand, or rip off their beaks. Predators are good for the food chain, whereas our mass farming and consumer-centricity is bad for the food chain. As a species, we factory farm animals, we breed them, kill their offspring, slaughter them with no chance of survival, and the most capitalist and consumer centric ways to do it is brutal efficiency. So I cannot personally consume animal products as long as those two economic structures are prevalent in my society. Whatever regulations are in place have workarounds/hacks to avoid actually having to care about the animals. If you want to understand this, check out Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer. If I was starving in the wilderness and maybe I can only survive by hunting, then I would hunt. That is natural. But I won't consume animal products within our modern society.

[@Aanthanur]

well other predators absolutely would feed them drugs and stuff and keep them on farms if they could :) but i understand the vegan's objections despite not having them.

[@Merivio]

@@Aanthanur God did not intend our factory farming, otherwise the workers wouldn't have PTSD. Evolution didn't intend this either, unless you are a Nihilist in which case you can happily enjoy your carcinogens, high cholesteral, superviruses, general ill health, and the eventual ecological collapse of earth. Fun times!

[@TheRealGavyLedfo]

1:22 alright I will so apex predators only live in places where there are a lot and I mean a lot of prey in this example sharks sharks only live in places where there are a whole lot of fish like a LOT of fish so the apex predator to prey ratio is like 10,000 prey to 1 apex predator the apex predators are really there to keep the prey in check so they don’t over populate and ruin the ecosystem therefore saving an apex predator is to help the environment of the place that it lives in

[@Stevelives13]

What does the shark have to do with veganism? The people who helped it were probably not vegan. Grade your last few vids have been weak AF first kissing Trumps ass now jumping on the anti vegan bandwagon without a single real argument.

[@TheGamingGuyYT]

Answer for the first question: if apex predators die out a different one WILL show up and radically change the entire ecosystem thus killing off a lot more animals Answer for the second question: thats a very small section of the vegan community just ignore them

[@miecha4445]

GradeAUnderA is shadowboxing so hard he used one of the only vegans who wants to kill off predators as an example of a vegan who doesn't want to kill off predators.

[@brandonjolly9767]

Please make a sponsor with a vpn company about how you can get around the tik tok ban it would be comedy gold

[@SoBo-yi7kq]

I finally unsubbed. 10 years came to this bullshit.

[@LucasGault-rp5dn]

Angry boi

[@SoBo-yi7kq]

@LucasGault-rp5dn he just sucks now, what do you want from me?

[@LucasGault-rp5dn]

@@SoBo-yi7kq angry boi

[@DenKulesteSomFins]

Agreed. New level of idiocy.

[@Boye-o9e]

@@SoBo-yi7kq angry boi

[@TheRodoeht]

Oh boi was I a stupid teenager when I first subscribed to this channel or did GradeA change? All points made in this video (only 3 btw) are just so bad. Predators are bad and vegans should kill them -> No, healthy ecosystems need predators All vegans are angry and rude -> As with any group of people there always are bad actors. Generalization of those few people to the whole group is stupid Leather is bad -> Obviously there are other applications for leather than couches and luxury clothes. For shoes for example it's naturally breathable, durable and can last a long time when taken care of

[@Aanthanur]

loved all his videos until the last 2. they are not funny . something changed.

[@yeetskeet907]

​@@AanthanurBro has a few bad takes, nothings changed lol

[@darcyob-t2g]

VEGAN HERE!! I'm going to try my best to answer all the points you made :) 1. Minimising animal suffering does not mean we always want to help animals. OMG CRAZY!!! If a lizard eats a bird egg, I'm not going to k the lizard to save the baby bird egg. Thats the circle of life. HOWEVERR, the animal agriculture industry is NOT part of the circle of life. So, boycotting animal ag is one way that vegans minimise animal suffering. 2. Sharks are obligate carnivores and NEED to eat fish to survive. Humans are not obligate carnivores, meaning we do not need to eat fish. 3. "cutting out the middle man" (taking away the shark to eat the fish it would have eaten) will destroy our planet. EVERY YEAR, the fishing industry ks TRILLIONS of fish, more that 250 THOUSAND turtles, more than 100 MILLION sharks, and more than 300 THOUSAND whales and dolphins in bycatch. So, by "cutting out the middle man" you are causing MORE suffering than if you just left the ocean animals alone. 4. How many vegans have you actually known? because I've had vegan friends since before I was vegan and they were some of the nicest people I have met. This idea that 'vegans are rude' is such a chronically online take. Vegans have a bad reputation online, but the online world is NOT THE REAL WORLD! You're calling vegans rude, but I think you are the rude one. This video is rude (calling vegans dumb, um okay?) and forcing animals to suffer for your taste is also rude :). 5. b12 can be supplemented (because animals are injected with b12 anyways so why not just "TAKE OUT THE MIDDLE MAN🤣🤣🤣"). Vitamin D comes from the sun, or can be supplemented in cloudy countries. Iron deficiency is common among non vegans as well, and iron happens to be very rich in wholegrains and legumes, which are vegan staples (legumes are lentils, soy, chickpeas, peanuts, beans, etc). ZInc is in wholegrains, nuts, seeds, and legums. Calcium is in dark leafy greans, fortified plant milks, and tofu. Iodine is in iodised salt (different from regular salt). A well planned plant-based diet is healthy for all stages of life. 6. You won't look malnourished if you eat protein-rich meals and exercise. Lentils, tofu, white beans, red-kidney beans, chickpeas, peanut butter, hemp, and whole grains are my main sources of protein. There is an infinite amount of delicious dishes you can make with these ingredients! 7. Aging is more complex than "eating plants makes you old". Its based on a variety of genetic and environmental factors. For example, drinking can cause aging, so I'd hope that if you were TRUELY concerned about aging, then you would be sober. 8. I'm sorry a vegan got angry at you, that must have been hard to have your morals challenged. 9. If you're going on a holiday to a foreign country, please have the decency to learn their language and culture before going. You actually sound like a spoilt brat. 10. Again you sound like a spoilt brat. Your father bought a brand-new leather couch to replace the old one, and all you can do is complain about it. I feel bad for your father. 11. You don't want to lie down on ded cow, but you will chew on and digest a ded cow? Okay :D Any questions?

[@senorpepper3405]

I like burgers

[@Zeknix]

Lol.... wall of text..... when the memes make themselves

[@dinfar7443]

Humans are omnivores, which means we eat plants and animals. I agree with you that the animal agriculture industry lacks ethical decency, but we as humans still need meat. I know you can technically survive off plants alone, but it isn't optimal, since as you said yourself certain vitamins and minerals need to be supplemented. That's why i think a balanced diet containing ethically sourced meat and animal products as well as plants is the best. If sharks (carnivores: organisms that mostly eats meat) can eat meat because it's the circle of life. So can we since humans are omnivores (organisms that eats plants AND animals) because it is also the circle of life. If monkeys are allowed to eat plants and animals because they do it naturally, so are we. If you don't agree, please come with your perspective as to why.

[@thatguythere6161]

@@ZeknixWhat is the script of gradeAunderA’s video if not a giant wall of text complaining about vegans?

[@CleetusDaFetus]

Jesus Christ you people cannot take a joke.. y’all people missing the point like crazy

[@miecha4445]

They're criticizing his arguments as part of the joke. Try to keep up.

[@CleetusDaFetus]

@ I think it’s 50/50 ngl I think people are taking this seriously too

[@AverageSlowBloke]

hes back.. omg 😮

[@cobyedwards2693]

7:50 pulls up in leather armor: say that to my face

[@krisiskitsunegamer2967]

(Pulls up in netherite armor) So, do you want pvp chicken or parkour beef?

[@slyceth]

Point 1: sharks eat fish without destroying the oceanfloor with nets and do so balanced to counter overpopulation. Sharks have existed for millenia and there are plenty of fish that adapted for this. Humans have fished millions of fish chaotically, destroying this nature's balance Minerals: while milk does have benefits, to make milk production viable farmers keep cows inside and feed them powdered minerals so cows become glorified machines. Vegan milk has these same minerals but a machine replaces the cow's production cycle way more efficiently, same taste and product, but without the harmful co2 cow farts.

[@asafeplace4684]

your entire argument is such an oxymoron my god. had to stop watching

[@User-86204]

Cant accept facts huh?

[@Aanthanur]

@@User-86204 what facts? im not vegan nor vegetarian, but this video is just utterly stupid and ignorant and not funny.

[@asafeplace4684]

@@User-86204 these are opinions, not facts - know the difference.

[@Zoopgar]

dawg you are making "vegans are dumb" videos in 2024 it is not 2015 anymore nobody cares 😥

[@Maxie_Mack]

his rent is due

[@TheBeautyInAshes]

Apex predators fulfill an important role in their ecosystem. So yes, you can say you love animals, even after saving a shark. Vegans can come off as rude because they get asked the same stupid questions way too many times. Agree with you on leather!

[@thejas123rapperdude]

I'm not a vegan, but I weirdly respect radical vegans. Cause like the whole thing is that they see animals on the same level as humans, so like imagine you're in a country where everyone is a cannibal that eats other people they consider to be "lower life forms". Wouldn't you be angry too? Someone saying "I respect that you don't eat people, so why can't you respect that I eat people? Leave me alone to eat other people in peace." Idk just some shower thoughts.

[@Rise7]

Hell yeah. It's about fighting for the voiceless. If the arguments weren't so often like this video it would be less frustrating, but it's the same zero-thought arguments so often that it becomes just... There's no good faith to the arguments.

[@lexnight8345]

No, they DON'T see animals at the same level as humans. Because they don't give a fk about the milions of birds who are considered a pest for the grain fields and get hunted to protect crops. They're just some low iq humans who wanna feel superior and found their random bs religion( which is fine... until you try to shove your religion in my face )

[@topiasperamaki]

You actually get it and I applaud you. You made a hypothetical that perfectly aligns what a vegan stands for. Same thing can be said about dogs being raised for food in Asia but in Western countries people frown upon it and deem it illegal. But why is it ok to kill cows and pigs (pigs are even more intelligent than dogs) but not ok to kill dogs. It just doesn't make sense to me. People are just so emotionally tied to their cultures and taught beliefs that it's hard to be open minded and question what is going on in the world.

[@ziwik3916]

well, i wouldnt say vegans put humans at same level as animals, personally i think its safe to say most vegans value human life over other animals becuz same species, but its a matter of not causing unnecessary harm regardless of the animals moral hierarchy. if you think all animals are equal, cool, but they dont have to be and we can all still treat them kindly. like, i definitely dont feel as bad for a fly getting killed vs a dog or pig but i still dont think any of them should suffer or die unnecessarily, especially for taste.

[@ILikeGuns1992]

These Vegan activists care above all else about making other humans submit to them. Power play. And also if you get rid of apex predator bad and unexpected things happen. It usually launches chain reaction. Like when people got rid of cats in towns they were overran by rats. Food chains are usually important.

[@19822andy]

Vegans show me videos of slaughterhouses all the time but it has the opposite effect. As soon as the carcass is skinned and split in 2 I get hungry. I would have no qualms if I had to hunt down my own meat either. However I don't know the quickest way to dispatch an animal so it's best to leave that to the experts and not some idiot who would unintentionally cause more harm than good. Make cheaper and tastier plant based meat and I'd switch in a heartbeat. Vegan food is crap

[@Aanthanur]

most of our food is actually vegan :)

[@BenjoCovers]

only a verry small portion of people are actually psychopaths, its ok

[@noneofyourbusiness7055]

That's... not what veganism is. I used to think it was just exaggeration as part of a character he plays, but the more I see the more I think Grade is actually pretty dumb :(

[@DenKulesteSomFins]

Yeah

[@im_ammo46]

best vid ever made

[@themixedrealitytester2151]

Its the natural order of things like when yellowstone removed wolves and deer became a problem

[@pagjimaagjinen9733]

These are intentionally dumb takes, right? Like this is a humor video, so we shouldn't take the ideas seriously, right?

[@Aanthanur]

im not vegan and like making fun of people for various resons, including veganism, but this video is just stupid and ignorant and not funny. it was like watching Joe Rogan comedy special.just an old man ranting and unlike the mupped show, its not funny.

[@Tommy55_official]

3:20 throwback

[@rcameron777]

Why is it every time a vegan I'm dating goes on about how healthy veganism is, she weighs more than me?

[@firelord508]

Apex predators have a purpose in their environment, and can maintain the population in a healthy manner. Cramming 50,000 morbidly obese chickens in a box is completely different. I’m for reducing suffering, killing all apex predators because they kill more animals by mass would not reduce suffering when the prey species overgrazes. I’m not a vegan, but your logic is flawed. Saving a dying shark is fine in my book, however the practices of many animal farms are not.

[@seanotm_]

Grade used to be a teacher but doesn't know the most basic of basic ecology, wild to me.

[@mosark6554]

I'm pretty sure it was a joke

[@ilikesnow7074]

Leather is very ethical. It's animal byproduct. No animals that I know of are killed for their leather. It's all just leftovers not going to waste.

[@hehecactusboy4312]

The first installment of the "This Group is Dumb Af" series is pretty good

[@Gottaculat]

I think he just had bad leather. I'm sitting on a quality leather couch right now, and I like it a lot. Also, leather sheathes for knives, and leather holsters are very, very comfortable. Make sure you get Italian or Mexican leather, though, as those countries produce top-tier leather.

[@user-sr9bi7en9g]

True, but unless you’re riding a horse, it’s not good to sit on

[@user-sr9bi7en9g]

N

[@JackieOwl94]

Most of those “vegan” products are often made of plastic or of soy-which soy production is terrible for the soil and the environment. At least leather rots away, and other animals could eat leather if they wanted to.

[@Prismate]

No Grade sadly we can’t genocide the sharks they serve as population control for herbivores in a lot of aquatic ecosystems Stop trying to go for “haha checkmate” moments we don’t watch you for your epic dunks we watch you because you can be a creative comedian

[@Khanh1200]

3:37 wow a Vietnamese bakery store

[@kieranbanks4650]

I got a leather sofa but it's on for my dog and cats to sit and sleep on

[@febberz]

Some vegans obvs get it wrong, but as a vegan I minimise *unnecessary* animal suffering. Obligate carnivores are allowed to exist in a vegan world. That should kind of be obvious, especially as farmed animals are bred into existence. Also you made a false equivalent. It's not 'man kills fish himself' vs 'man saves shark'. It's 'man kills fish himself AND saves shark' vs 'man doesn't kill fish himself AND saves shark'. Which results in fewer fish dying? Still the second one.

[@Kurokami002]

im not even vegan nor vegetarian (in fact im currently on keto) but this was a bunch of intellectual dishonesty

[@Ugetora]

that hub joke was seen from a mile away XD

[@bingbong8239]

This video proves that Grade is allergic to research The apex predator argument should be easy for anyone to know why eliminating a species is a horrible idea

[@meateaterscringe9863]

I assume this channel is for kids, based on the content that I just watched, so I didn't expect any solid arguments, but I will still respond to some of the claims. 1. Veganism isn't about saving animals. Not participating in intentional and unjustified animal deaths isn't the same as actively saving them. Just like not killing someone isn't equal saving them. 2. Some vegans are for killing apex predators, since they violate rights of others. Vegan Gains included, he states it is more complex with marine animals, as for example shark eats some carnivorous fish, so it is hard to calculate whether shark causes more or less suffering. Most of the video was pure cringe, so I didn't finish watching. But if someone believes there were any solid arguments, you can write them down.

[@1toncheese]

bruh this is a shitpost channel run by a teacher for entertainment purposes, grade knows everything your saying already and is just chatting shit for memes. the butt of the joke is people who dont understand what they are looking at and make assumptions... i. e you

[@miecha4445]

​@@1toncheeseBro, that's the joke. You completely missed ops joke lmao

[@chrisprilloisebola]

@@meateaterscringe9863 IiI bro talking about cringe while posting nonsense cringe lmao.

[@jasonprice7707]

I gave a like just because of the tmnt music

[@SamSonicVideos]

I know this video is a joke but for the ignorant, I'd argue that it's unethical to kill apex predators for ecological reasons as taking away predators will cause the prey animals' population to burst and cause more damage to the ecosystem like the fish eating too much plants which cause there to be less oxygen in the water and render the water uninhabitable, for example. If you want another example, invasive animals that go to a different country with no natural predator, it GREATLY damages the ecosystem such as grey squirrels pushing the native red squirrels to the point of extinction, cats eating endangered Australian wildlife and rabbits eating the Australian vegetation (seriously, Australia has some serious invasive problems). And yes, rabbits have no predators in Australia but here in the UK, foxes and other predators eat them to prevent them from getting out of control.

[@Rambo007-_-]

Shut up Meg

[@billyzleef3230]

Grade's downfall needs to be studied

[@ianhabener]

Leather furniture sucks but leather glove are great for work. It helps with getting blisters and cuts and keeps your hands clean idk and rubber gloves suck tbh

[@ssj4jason737]

And then you have leather jackets which just look cool

[@MajinOsirus]

HOLY SHIT you're still alive! Im happy! :D

[@CroatianComplains]

grade its not 2016 anymore

[@theguyfromwalgreens]

Another humorous but makes sense video from Grade.

[@Minecraft_man14655]

Me who is asian : Dont worry i will end this shark problem

[@youwantgoodrng]

Come on m8, take it easy😂

[@Luwis1337]

And Dolphins!

[@gilgabro420]

dude this video is stuck in 2012

[@miriamhamouda7028]

I not saying all vegans do this but i hate it when they make their pets also vegan, i think it's really cruel because animals like cats and dogs are born meat eaters. It's also the case when parents force their kids to be vegan. Like what if they don't want to?.

[@justinpopp2549]

I love my leather jackets. They are well worn in and fit so comfortably. Plus they literally last forever if cared for properly. My leather tool belt makes me money everyday. Robust holds up to the elements and will also last forever. Gotta disagree with grade on this one.

[@NPC-bs3pm]

He may be only familiar with very low-grade bad leather. A Quality leather furniture, can be very soft and flexible without all the "squeaky" sounds and hard rigid surface. Fabric🤢 is more likely to seep in sweat and smells over time.

[@relaxationhouse2]

"leather sofas" are not actually made from real leather since it would literally cost thousands 😂

[@arghydoodles1921]

Why is it so controversial to not kill animals? Please. Why focus so much on an annoying vegan, just think about the animal, does the animal really care about the social aspect? Think about the literal happening of its life, imagine living that life.

[@speedos]

b-b-but i wanna EAT Mmmmmmm

[@nanoscapehd6179]

Woah woah woah where did that ad come from? Too smooth

[@morningstar3741]

bro is not beating the stuck in 2016 allegations

[@JeremyFinch42]

Okay, so, humans are supposed to be omnivores. Some animals are omnivores as well. These create a needed balance between a multitude of things. Some of these omnivores eat bugs, so they handle pests. Which can eat vegetation. Eliminating food for prey type herbivores. Some omnivores HUNT carnivores, putting ease on the herbivores. But if there's TOO MANY herbivores, the vegetation will also be mown down, meaning the herbivores on their own can cause risk to their very existence. So an omnivore DOES have to maintain a natural balance amongst all these things, that is their very purpose. That is our purpose.

[@speedos]

>humans are supposed to be omnivores where did you get that?

[@JeremyFinch42]

@speedos Are you seriously going to question that??? Okay, our teeth. We have sharp canines and incisors for eating meat, and molars for grinding plants. That is THE indicator of an omnivore. Are. You. Shitting me with this??? Is your brain THAT absent of creases?