UNDER 250G with GPS! - ZOHD DART 250G Fpv Wing - FULL REVIEW & FLIGHTS

[@dronecamps]

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[@danieltruffer5197]

Do you fly with the stock motor on 4s??

[@jcfpv3454]

What a great wing finally after struggling for several weekends I was able to get my first successful flight this thing is sweet it flys great once set up correctly

[@dronecamps]

Nice JC!

[@woogieman02]

Would be nice to have the ability to use the pots on your conteoller to adjust the gains of the board. Would make adjusting things much easier, espically on windy days and such. This is also screaming for an 1865p pack!

[@dronecamps]

I agree. I need to try an 18650 pack

[@ArionRaine]

You need to calibrate level with the nose up slightly at about the cruise speed level flight angle to prevent it nosing down during launch. It WILL launch just fine in stabilized mode. this goes for pretty much any fixed wing stabilizer/fc.

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

Hell yea Wiz, you fucking rock!

[@Taboloncawonthemasters]

This has a stabilization mode built in?

[@wrhythm]

You can get really good flight times with 4* 18650 LI ION cells in series.

[@AdrianoCasemiro]

3s, 1406 motor lightweight, fpv, gps all under 250g. That's the ticket. Behold the future of our hobby.

[@North49RC]

I know this is an older vid, as always a great review. However the procedure and some of the info on the Kopilot is a bit skewed, maybe it wasn't clear at the time, and you probably have it all worked out now. I use the Kopilot on my AR Wing right now, and it works great. The one thing is you need to let the GPS lock happen in either RTH or stabilized mode when you plug in the battery. If you fire up in manual it will not lock onto any sats, but it will arm. So the danger there is you may be able to launch in manual, but once you switch to RTH or stabilized it will then look for sats mid air, all the while you think it will take control, which it won't till it locks. This could happen right away or take time to find its location. This should happen on the ground before you launch. The RTH mode does have a launch assist. Plug in the battery in RTH, let the sat lock happen, it will now arm the motor and you will see the control surfaces twitch. This means the board ready for the launch. Switch off your throttle lock, and bring your throttle stick up to 80-100%. Your motor will not spool up. As you throw the model the sats and board will measure movement of 4m/s and spool up the motor to your throttle setting on its own, stabilize your model to level on the roll axis and start to climb into the RTH circuit. This is a safety feature which lets your hands clear the model before the prop spins up. At this point you do have throttle control all the way down to 50% but you will not have control surface control. This will keep the model in a RTH circuit at an altitude of 35-70 meters till you switch to either manual or stabilized mode. At this point you will fly like you would normally. Another point is if you are in stabilized mode and you notice you get unwanted climb or decent then you need to readjust your neutral calibration. If it drops, prop up the nose a bit in you neutral calibration process with something that will increase your angle a few degrees, this will tell the board what you want level to be and it will correspond in flight. The same will go for the adverse, if your model climbs, then do the neutral calibration with something to prop the tail up a few degrees. This may take a couple tries to dial in. If you get it dialed in you will be able to launch in stabilized mode as well. If your model is well balanced you should not see a difference in level flight switching from manual to stabilized mode, it should be seamless. This is just an add on to your video, just to get the more accurate information base to this video particular video. Again great channel, great reviews, and awesome gear. Keep it shiny side up and thank you.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

All good info - except for "If you fire up in manual it will not lock onto any sats." Not true I'm afraid. As soon as power is supplied to the GPS puck it will search for and acquire satellites. (May take quite some time on the first time up at your location.) The warning about not taking off before you have a valid satellite lock is golden though! If you fly off in Manual before getting lock the RTH point will be wherever the plane was when the valid sat number was acquired. Best practice is to switch to RTH mode after powering up Tx and plane. When you have a valid lock the servos will twitch and the ESC will arm and you are ready to go. Remember to put your throttle up from 0 and disable your throttle cut if you want to use "Autolaunch."

[@North49RC]

@@theoztreecrasher2647 You are correct about the sat lock, I was pre-emptive on that point. Thank you

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

@@North49RC All good now mate! We are all learning with these new gizmos. If you come across any of my mistakes (there will be plenty!) please let me know also. 😃

[@Thizlamic]

I'll be flying mine with an Orbit Stabilizer and no Ko Pilot. Saving that for the Talon GT

[@roadstar499]

Nice little plane...but to small..did you review any good planes that have similar wing design, but can be flown just view of site no gyro or camera s? Thanks

[@flyhardfpv9289]

Hi mate , I noticed you have your tail fins the wrong way round did you do that on purpose or did you assume it was supposed to be like the dart xl? Cause even on the box there facing inwards. I like the way you have put it on though!

[@dronecamps]

Yes. I wanted them that way

[@Aarons14bugs]

Thank you for your early review. Much better than the other one I saw by another.

[@dronecamps]

You’re welcome. Hope it was a good amount of info.

[@cenabitednbfpv587]

Probably going to take this EVERYWHERE!! THIS and A diatone 349hd im good to go anywhere anytime!! Great vid bro!

[@pieterpretorius1014]

i have 1 on the way now and i'm going to stick a full pixhawk in it. would probably be a little over 250g with the pixhawk but i have some 1300mah lipo's i can fly with, that should get the COG in the right place. i'm also going to be flying it without fpv since i don't have a receiver for the signal

[@cenabitednbfpv587]

I ALSO run my vtxs from the batt in via jst or w.e. however i get PERFECTLY CLEAN VID using akks all the filtering is done in the akk x2 u should give it a try! All my best brother as always!

[@BryonGaskin]

This is my first wing. I bought the TYRO119 and followed Justin's instructions and it went pretty much flawless. This wing is going to be the death of me. What is the motor direction CW or CCW. I've got my set to CW and using two blade prop that came with the Dart with the numbers on the props facing towards the direction of travel.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

CCW as you look at the rear of the plane. CW if you are looking from the nose.

[@Jacey2001]

Thinking about putting a nebula camera HD on one of these for my DJI goggles

[@mrmOoOon90]

This thing is freaking cool! Do you think it will still fly well with a dji air unit in it? It may be over 250g but the experience would be amazing

[@dronecamps]

Should still fly with a DJI unit in it. Heavy but you could de-case the DJI unit.

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Kopilot looks great, and I'd buy it right now ...... however no uarts.... I need to install a erls receiver.

[@gbro8822]

Love the plane videos. Your knowledge of all RC is awesome. Thank you.

[@fen1x_fpv]

250g orbit would be sweet! Actually zohd orbit was my first flying wing/plane

[@seifer2000]

Ordered one 2 weeks ago. Can´t wait to fly it. Thanks for the great review. Really helps me to configure it right when it finally arrives ;-)

[@batmojuice5704]

From a plane newby. I got this plane and took a maiden flight in fairly high wind. Wing came out in stab mode, resulting in a styrofoam explosion. So, just glue them in. Don’t rely on that 3M sticky tape. I fixed it, but dammit just the same. I also should have listened about the expo.

[@countryboymotovlogs926]

Justin, nice video as always, I’m new to open tx, could you do a video on switch setup for the modes on the 250G? Thanks brother!

[@papamidnightfpv]

Hey I really would like to know a good reason to use fence mode. It seems like it would be good for a plane with landing gear, so you can throttle up and it should get to altitude. Idk if that's what it's for but there's zero videos of anyone using it. I have a bunch of 3d printed planes and I still suck at taking off. Bought a second kopilot so I can try to this bf109 from 3dlabprint

[@dronecamps]

Fence mode is in case say your do t want it to fly over a neighborhood or near by government property? 🤟🏻 I mean depends on where you live.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

"Fence Mode" is useful in that, for a small plane like this, that maximum Fence distance is more than you will be able to comfortably see and operate the plane. Also, if set for "Fence" the plane will fly as for "Stabilized" but bounce off that wall into RTH mode until you move your A/E stick. Then you will get normal control back. In 'Manual" or "Stabilized" you can still fly out to the limits of your Tx signal when it will failsafe to RTH. BUT you should note! The plane will NOT latch to RTH! . In other words at the boundary of your signal range it will continually switch between RTH and your Tx selected mode. If 'Manual" you'd better be ready for it! Select RTH/Fence to bring it home. You CAN Autolaunch from the ground by accelerating in Stabilized or Manual then flicking to RTH/Fence/Autolaunch but you would need to manually use rudder before switching and hope it stayed straight at speed before lifting off. ;-)

[@bluefish3607]

Great review thanks for taking the time to produce it. I have mine on order, I notice you fitted the stabilizers leaning out towards the wing tips rather than inboard, does that affect its flight characteristics or is it purely an optional aesthetic choice?

[@dronecamps]

I like them better line this. Looks better and more efficient. 👍🏻

[@bluefish3607]

Yeah I will run mine same defo looks better and yours seemed to fly well with that orientation. Going to run mine on iNav with Matek F411 WSE.

[@dronecamps]

Oh yeah that’s the perfect combo. To me honestly the other way just looks odd.

[@jeffreyjackson1626]

I noticed the vertical stabilizers as well, glad i checked to see if anyone else mentioned it b4 i made a comment. ;>/ So, are you saying you've tried it both ways, and it doesn't affect the flight?! I would think maybe it explains some of your "instability" issues... (hee, hee). (From ai4rv.)

[@carpenterrick186]

Wicked little system!!! May just have to get one! Great review as always!!! Cheers!

[@timfelixbrosch7250]

Banggood recommends a 2/3s 900-1500mah Do you agree with that/or think it's possible, cause in your description you write about a 450-550mah battery?

[@babylonhobbiesandfpv4862]

I have the same question, just ordered it and a couple of 4s 1500 100c batteries lol

[@timfelixbrosch7250]

@@babylonhobbiesandfpv4862 The stock esc ranges from 2-4s so it could work. Just look after the CG and you should be good.

[@babylonhobbiesandfpv4862]

@@timfelixbrosch7250 sweet, just worried, any idea what max payload would be for this model?

[@WhalleyB0Y]

Noisy cam mounted against your vtx could be the reason for all the noise.

[@rohansully584]

"you get 10 points." haha, love it.

[@elcotorro]

hello good video, one question, in RTH mode my plane goes down a lot, how can I make it go higher? Thank you.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

The RTH height is fixed at 70m above boot-up height. Only way to increase it is to climb a ladder or tall building before you power up the plane. 😉

[@seba2038]

as I am EMF sensitive, I canot have 100mw on my head , sO i'd like to know if exist like a bigger antena on gogles or something to put antena away from my head as much as possible?

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Shouldn't be a problem if you wear a Faraday Cage - or tinfoil hat.

[@Aarons14bugs]

...so would a 4 inch bi-prop be OK with its pnp stock motor and esc???

[@tiankuohua5167]

Is it Spektrum compatible?

[@juniorlene839]

How does one get longer range and flying with this one? I’d like to fly at least 3km or more ..

[@isaacdalton9103]

Great set-up! Was the fpv vtx and camera plug and play? Or did you have to cut and splice your own harness for the vtx and camera connect together? I know Zohd has a fpv camera set-up but I think your Way of doing it is better.

[@jcfpv3454]

Hey jd I do appreciate the great video I have really been struggling with this wing maybe its noob error

[@virginiacamper]

Just wondering...would it be feasible to install a Runcam Split 3 Nano on this model?? It seems to small to carry a Runcam 5 or GoPro.

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

Hey Justin, I got mine the other day, after coming back from the gym I found that my crossfire receiver had arrived. I had to finish up putting together a quad, so I haven’t finished putting together my zohd 250g yet, but I can’t wait till I have it together and take it for a fly. The only problem, it’s raining, been raining on and off for a few days, which makes a nice change from the bushfires and high humidity we’ve been having in Australia lol. Just wondering though, why do you have the vertical stabilisers on the wrong sides?

[@dronecamps]

No reason other than I liked how it looked better with them going out instead of in. Looks cooler.

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

Drone Camps RC , fair enough then, I suppose that as long as it doesn’t affect the flight performance, it doesn’t matter which way they’re attached.

[@blazenicholls3590]

Great review,!! I've never flown one of these planes. Really good price 👍

[@jjj25313]

Love the new intros man!

[@cenabitednbfpv587]

Me 2!

[@ReeferNoob23]

Just love the review man, what was that weird static noise when you were plugging in the wing

[@ReeferNoob23]

@@jjj25313 i think it was his vtx causing interference with his camera or phone or whatever he was using every time he touch the wing it got worse

[@idk-ir6vv]

I've flown wings before, but with no stabilization or GPS or anything. I've also never flown fpv wings (just fpv quads) would this be a decent wing do you think? I fly quads and my goggles aren't the best so sometimes my signal just stops, so that's why I would want a gps system like this for whenever I fly fpv

[@dronecamps]

People want gps so you have peace of mind in a failsafe. Otherwise the plane crashes to the ground. With GPS if you lose signal or need RTH on a switch. You have it.

[@GKCcisco]

Setting up one now

[@OZSCQUADS]

great review. Might have to get one of these. how many amps does the PNP version use at full throttle?

[@LukRC1]

Hi man Did you connect 4S Battery to stock esc and motor ??

[@DontShootUK]

Nice review - I think i'll buy one - as the UK now has a 250G limit! by the way you have installed the black fins the wrong way around - they should point inwards

[@dronecamps]

Thanks! - I installed them the way I like them to be.

[@DontShootUK]

Drone Camps RC just out of interest for when mine arrives, does it make any difference to the way it flys? Or just looks

[@dronecamps]

Mostly looks. But I feel like it’s less resistance cambered outwards.

Any reason for not mounting the vertical stabilizers as pictured on the box?

[@idk-ir6vv]

I thought the same thing, on the box they seem tilted in, he has them straight vertical.

@@idk-ir6vv The Dart XL has them outwards too, so maybe it's to (slightly) improve horizontal stability at the expense of heading hold. But the effect's probably marginal.

[@dronecamps]

Yes design wise it looks cool tilted. But aerodynamics you want them vertical.

[@MrStrikeforce1987]

What setting is your radio on (mw) to get that kinda range. I got a jumper t8sg and I’m looking at getting this plane and wondering what kinda range I will get on the 150mw setting. Thank you for the video

[@dronecamps]

You should get further than me on 150mw. Taranis radios are set default to 100mw.

[@MrStrikeforce1987]

Drone Camps RC thanks for the reply man! That failsafe RTH feature is really making me think this might be a good little plane to have

[@dronecamps]

Yep. And so far the modes work perfectly. The RTH works like its on a rail coming back.

[@jakegriffiths2k]

you running 4s with the stock power system??

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Would this be ok to set up on a tango 2? ive only ever flown quads so no idea..

[@mikeybroe1]

probably. the fc needs a 3 position switch on the radio

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

Works great

[@irwan_rc2416]

Does the battery voltage osd come from the camera build in osd? Thanks

[@mikeybroe1]

yessir

[@ChrisCroft]

What about using a runcam split on it?

[@gujackson1]

Are these considered required to be registered as drones?

[@babilinx7969]

This plane is good for beginners ?

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Only if you enjoy smashing up perfectly good planes and wasting your money. Learn to fly first! 😜😁

[@babilinx7969]

@@theoztreecrasher2647 XD

[@Steven-er2od]

How hard is this one to fly?

[@juniorlene839]

Does the plane come with the remote control or is it sold separately?

[@mikeybroe1]

separate

[@cenabitednbfpv587]

Yea! i want a sub 250 skyhunter!! 🤩 and dose it tip stall or rude stall like the lil dart? And i dono zohd is pretty perfect, when it comes to perfect thrust to weight.. reason for the tri blade.. u can lol with those small bottom fins it means u can use one without killing props and without Ripping a motor mount out, which im super happy to see not all wings work better with a tri blade but some really do, and just going by what we have seen, i Lol imo, ive tried them on certain wings and this one im sure they tested with ever kind of prop and luckily we get high kv and tri blade, thats a need for speed! 👌 and again just going to an x2 vtx will kill all vid noise.. anything i need to know about hooking up crossfire? Thanks a million brotha! Pps @Ar iii are we, gunna get this in a neon? 😈🤯👌👍❤❤❤

[@protonus]

Title sequence says the review is for the iFlight DC3 HD ;-)

[@dronecamps]

Oh well. Mistakes happen. Life goes on.

[@rizen3467]

Can i fly the stock setup on 4s or did you do any mods?

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Since you can burn the stock motor by heavy use of the throttle with the stock 2-blade prop on 3s I doubt if it is stock on 4s. Specs say 2s for the 2-blade 5x5 prop and 3s for the 3-blade 3x5x3. Lots of folks hot 'em up. It is a nice flier with no bad stall habits.

[@chriselton1915]

Is Kopilot compatible with Spektrum?

[@dronecamps]

yes if SBUS receiver. which they sell.

[@idk-ir6vv]

If I got this, and eventually got a larger, faster wing, would it be very difficult (or possible) to take all the gps and inav stuff from this and put it into another wing?

[@dronecamps]

not at all.

[@camaro92026]

Dude put some extra capacitors on your esc's power wires up close to the ESC to clean up the video.

[@dronecamps]

Lc filter. Not capacitors

[@camaro92026]

@@dronecamps capacitors at the source of the issue stop the problem in its tracks so no need 4 lc filter.

[@dronecamps]

Not always. Sorry.

[@dougmcpheters1546]

Nice one!

[@dronecamps]

Thanks D!

[@dougmcpheters1546]

@@dronecamps always Bro... Looking forward to your Kopilot review. I've got mine installed in the Black Op Nano Talon. Pretty certain all is correct. But, I get no throttle (before launch) in RTH/Fence mode. Is that typical of the unit? Thanx

[@NotGyra]

Holy moly, that price point tho

[@dronecamps]

I want two for that price. :)

[@NotGyra]

@@dronecamps im still learning on how to make a foam board fly tho :) with brush powar

[@derrickmitchell39dm]

Why don't you or more videos like this address GC. CG issues will make it break a maiden bro, it has to be talked about more.

[@RGCbaseace]

So only the coolest fpv ers run the vertical fins canted outward I like it i like it alot

[@dronecamps]

Just looks better 😂

[@RGCbaseace]

@@dronecamps i concur at least their will be two that think that

[@BIGDRONEFLYER77RC]

Not bad for under a 100 bucks

[@jimmynoname4089]

Love to get one, but i don’t need another project...

[@dronecamps]

This doesn’t take much time. And is beyond fun

[@jimmynoname4089]

@@dronecamps But I already have a xuav clouds, skyhunter 1800, and a 3d printed plane that is in the build phase. Granted I love to have a few small planes to toss on my pack and go fly... but I think my wife would kill me... lol

[@pinlock4331]

Ordered one :-)

[@dronecamps]

Awesome. Did you get the Kopilot?

[@sergeyafonin2596]

ZOHD Dart 250G can't fly with speed like this. It becomes out of control with speed below 40 km/h.

[@christopherstarzyk9209]

Slap the Nano Talon 2204 1870kv on there!

[@jcfpv3454]

I bought this wing setup everything correctly launched it in auto launch mode and it went straight up in the air stalled and dove into the ground tearing off the entire nose $160 down the drain in 2 minutes 10% product fault 90% noob fault 👍

[@ralphquetaya4547]

Just use a very thin layer of hot glue, justs enough to also touch the other side of the break in the foam, and quickly stick together and hold for a few seconds, it will be strong like new

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

I'd venture 100% noob fault. Set servo correction on the Kopilot board first and on the radio SECOND. If you do it the other way around (and don't recheck your servo movements before flying) you are pretty well guaranteed a loop/roll of death! 🤔