"Under the current format, I will NOT PLAY at the Candidates": Magnus Carlsen

[@SenatorBluto]

Fischer never defended his title because he didn't like FIDE's terms. At least Magnus defended three times before telling them to eff off.

[@SenatorBluto]

@@fdaa3154 Four defenses, actually.

[@manuchess2023]

But they didn't like it for diferente reasons

[@Philopantheon82]

Well said

[@justgoingoutside5243]

@@fdaa3154so was yours but while his point held (i.e. he won it lots), your point was undermined by trying to correct someone while being wrong yourself …

[@potatowarrior88]

Fischer didn't defend it because they didn't give him enough money, Magnus didn't defend it because he doesn't support the amount of preparation that is needed in order to classical chess at its best. Please don't compare the two

[@tranquilitytranquility1407]

Magnus, literally in every single interview: I will not play Candidates. Commentators: Magnus, will you play Candidates? No? OMG breaking news!

[@johnnydoe3603]

Don’t forget the Fitness Question 😂 It’s Obligatory in Magnus’s Interviews

[@sarthakmahajan6336]

Why is he playing then?. Knocking out others too, gukesh could have qualified for candidates. Vidit is such a choke man, he had a golden opportunity for candidates, got a decent opponent too, and had a good position yesterday. What a let down by VD. I hope Magnus plays, don't want this Abasov guy in candidates It's like a free point to everyone.

[@Samireightyseven]

Well if he beat vidit doesn’t that mean vidit would also be an easy point at the candidates?

[@manuelbonelli3690]

​@@sarthakmahajan6336because having a spot in the candidates is just a plus for the first 3. The main objective at least for most of the ppayers is to win the tournament just to win...especially since there are many chances where you can qualify for the candidates. The World cup is just of them

[@sarthakmahajan6336]

@@manuelbonelli3690 there are not much chances, I guess they are total 8 spots out of which 3 would be from World cup, 1 is last year challenger that is Ian. You have just 4 spots left with Alireza, hikaru, rapport, duda, Anish, gukesh, MVL, some youngsters like keymer, Arjun, pragg , nordierbeg. Some of the quality players may miss & we see abasov playing that would be so bad.

[@anujshastri1458]

Magnus Carlsen - the guy who will never fight to become the WC under the current format but he'll always be known as the guy who took down everyone in the list.

[@Thegodiva1995]

In any case magnus is already qualified though based on rating. But in the event that he wins the world cup and doesn't join the candidates, then the 2nd ,3rd and 4th place of world cup will be the ones to qualify

[@ash5033938337]

Thanks to Kazuya Mishima for the question 🔥😂

[@socalkylex]

That question was electric

[@goranbandic9387]

Hahah

[@gideonturner8716]

Just got back from slaying Heihachi and Akuma in time to tune into a Chess broadcast and ask that question.

[@KillerInstinct1]

DOORYA

[@knowscheese1056]

Jinpachi wants to know 😂

[@grownupgaming]

I hope Carlsen keeps being #1 so he can get FIDE to change formats.

[@observemudau]

They won't change

[@johnnydoe3603]

They shouldn’t Change Classical. People came to Watch Tata Steel and World Cup. It shows that Classical still has that Magic. 😊

[@kornephoros]

​@@johnnydoe3603he just wants a different classical format I think

[@spiralni]

Classical chess is a format. Being a chess champion is playing classical chess. Do you want to play blitz? Fine, they have a blitz championship.

[@FunnyValentineFeign]

​@@spiralnihes the current blitz and rapid champion

[@pratikrana7684]

Magnus is truly admirable.. stuff of legends.

[@goodguycwyzz4768]

FIDE doesn’t need to get rid of classical, they just need to make it more win focused so players don’t go for draws as much

[@kk99-g7d]

And how would they do that exactly? The main championship match is 1v1. You cant make a 1v1 "win oriented".

[@glxxyz]

@@kk99-g7d3 points for a win 😂

[@apostle9209]

@@kk99-g7d magnus just wants much more matches and less prep time in a similar time period. In that way, the actual proficiency of the players can be known and not just how much they studied the engine lines upto the endgame which is basically how it is played now

[@jilow]

@@glxxyz I was thinking that might solve the problem but I don't think it does. You're in the same boat as before if they win, you need to win to tie. Maybe the first person to win gets 2 points and then every win after that is worth 1. It's hard to think of how to fix it.

[@smut_operator1179]

@@jilowmaybe forbidding perpetual draws, the one who does it loses like in xiangqi chinese chess. Also the one looking for a draw with obvious forcing or offering gets 0,5 and the other guy gets 1 point. Win gets you 2 points. Draw with black is 1 point, with white 0.5. Idk there should be some ways to avoid such stress of making one small mistake in 12 games costing you a wcc. Ding and Nepo gave us the way with crazy play, but most players won't go for that many crazy lines

[@nossenkanter]

"How can you be a Candidate when you're already the King?" - Magnum Carlos

[@da96103]

With that statement, we will have two first-timer candidates, Abasov Nijat and Pragg/Arjun in 2024 Candidates.

[@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406]

No, Abaskv will most likely qualify. But if Prag loses he won't qualify if Arjun loses he won't qualify. And unfortunately their agaidnt each other. So it is a must win or lose macth for them.

[@sillynaplord3827]

@@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 Abasov is already qualified. The guy said Pragg/Arjun meaning either Pragg or Arjun so you are litterally saying the same thing

[@PrometheanRising]

Magnus: not playing your game anymore. Still gonna slap around your candidates and champ though just to make sure the point isn't lost on anyone.

[@brianmarrero5147]

Question from Kazuya Mishima!! Lol. Love to see fellow tekken 7 players following chess

[@phantasm3207]

Fischer did not agree with FIDE's format. Kasparov did not agree with FIDE's format. Calrsen does not agree with FIDE's format. The greatest players of all-time believe the format should be changed. Conclusion: FIDE will never change

[@georgeray649]

Very true

[@kylewilliams4490]

What exactly do they want changed?

[@gold9994]

@@kylewilliams4490 Especially now (Carlsen). With engines and AI/NN, some of the lines are just too forcing, which almost always resulted in a draw. Against Carlsen (which is undoubtedly, the best player right now), people will just play that force move. Carlsen wants either: 1. Another format where more than 2 people are fighting for the championship, so this means less preparation against a certain player. 2. Shorter time control (more than rapid, less than classical). 90 minutes with increment (without time control), rather than a full 120 minutes. Play 2 games per day.

[@ramachandra776]

Caruana has then secured his spot in the Candidates . The stakes for Pragg-Arjun game tomorrow has risen . One Indian though is confirmed for the upcoming candidates.

[@grownupgaming]

Is that true? Since Carlsen wont go, the other 3 semifinalists automatically go?

[@ЙоанЙотов-у5ч]

no technically the second and third place if magnus win the tournament @@grownupgaming

[@erikchristensen822]

Yes. I looked at the FIDE regulations. If Magnus is in Top 3 and doesn't play Candidates, all the world cup semifinalists then go to candidates.

[@grownupgaming]

@@erikchristensen822 ok thank you!

[@grownupgaming]

@@erikchristensen822 the third place match will be kind of silly... the two will be like...what why are we even playing this game lol

[@TheTwistybandit]

Lol kazuya mishima asked the question

[@shivasundar]

I read all the comments. For the nincompoops out there (and a certain person in the interview - initials MC); FIDE *has changed* time controls in the classical format to make it more exciting/watchable. The 40th move time-control is already very stressful, and many 2700+ players struggle already in complex middlegames (e.g. Leinier, So, Giri, etc. ). We have Super GMs lose on time as well sometimes!! For the *people who are so ignorant of history* [may be some were probably not born then], here is a refresher: 1. FIDE used to have classical games over _two days_ - yes that's right, 2 and a half hours for the first 40 moves with longer increments I think. And games used to go on for an entire evening, then they _adjourned_ (player having the move will "write down" the move seal it and pass it to the arbiter - and that move will be played next day!) 2. FIDE then reduced it to 2 hours each - option of adjournment. 3. Then the current system 1 and 1/2 hours for the first 40 moves. So, FIDE *will not reduce it* further. People *watch golf* , they *watch test cricket* (both over several days!!) If you want quality, and determine the best, this is the format. It's only 4-7 hours now. Don't play it if you don't like it then. Or don't whine like a cry baby "waah waah - I want 2900" - and still play it!!!

[@Osea-fr7ld]

: Magnus won five consecutive world classical chess championships. A random person on youtube "magnus want's to alter the format so people can't out calculate him"

[@razinmuntasir777]

Congratulations to abasov for candidates

[@Reversely]

So basically Magnus was there just to knock some rookies out😂

[@konosuba350]

He mising WC title

[@Mrpallekuling]

Which format does Magnus prefer then? Would have been an appropriate question. A knock-out candidates? Is the difference between a knock-out and a round-robin so huge that one is OK, but not the other? I think the truth is that Magnus want new challenges and not repeat something over and over again.

[@procerator]

Difference is huge. It was a problem for Magnus in different tournaments - opponents are scared of him so they play safe drawish lines. And with only draws - you can't win.

[@chefcarry2902]

Candidates has 2hrs +1hr format which even worse than 1.5+40mins.

[@KappaBoba]

He means the current world championship format also

[@dereknichols4376]

Magnus hate all classical games format He wants to add rapid/blitz to the overall too,just like in world cup unlike in wc when u need to go for 12 classical games until tiebreak in rapid

[@nietzornietz680]

i think the format he prefers would be that the current champion play in the same tournament as the candidates. Basically whoever wins, become the world champion. No more 1 on 1 play, which is very long and exhausting to keep up not just for players but for viewers and also for all people behind the production.

[@sagarpatel9746]

My thinking says that a world championship should include all the rapid blitz & classical games so that the world champion should be master of all

[@navnnavn1226]

"A question from Kazuya Mishima" DORYA

[@harshitagrawal8859]

Change the entire format , but bring back MAGNUS WCC is not WCC without him

[@maziastro9932]

What's the format that he wants?

[@harshitagrawal8859]

@@maziastro9932 I don't know, I just want magnus back in WCC...let change the FIDE president as well

[@viniciuscaldas4143]

He wants a format with less time so people would get out faster from preparation and “play real chess” as he already said. And If I’m not wrong more matches (This one I’m not sure). He said he want to play real chess and not preparation and boring stuff.

[@maziastro9932]

@@viniciuscaldas4143 I mean we have rapid and blitz and for pure chess, fischer random too. If he doesn't wanna play, stepping down is the best decision but classical chess shouldn't be changed yk. It has its charm What's your opinion on this?

[@harshitagrawal8859]

@@viniciuscaldas4143 if FIDE can't put on world-class WCC , than they must accept MAGNUS demand on temporary basis.....if don't work get back to normal

[@Bubbirock]

But is this how it works? The first three places qualify for candidates. But in which rule did FIDE say that if Magnus doesn't want to play the candidates, that automatically place 4 gets the candidates spot? This wasn't mentioned by FIDE. Maybe they will find antoher way to fill the missing spot?

[@anmol.1338]

this is exactly how it works

[@dereknichols4376]

There 2 rules 1.if player refuse the spot right away(on the tournament)=it will go to the 4th spot,only 4 not 5/6/7 2.if player initially accept but refuse in the future(weeks/months after the tournament end)=they will take it from elo(Karjakin+radja cases)

[@vixr9557]

not a good format. Why would little people know GM be in a candidates but hey, it's hard to determine any better solution. Who knows..

[@robertm6597]

question from kazuya mishima xDDDD

[@phillytothemax]

Why is that funny?

[@robertm6597]

@@phillytothemax kazuya mishima is character from tekken , fight game

[@phillytothemax]

@@robertm6597 I thought it sounded familiar but why is that even funny lol

[@robertm6597]

@@phillytothemax omg why not. if is not for you then stop write.

[@phillytothemax]

@@robertm6597 huh lol

[@davidhurst8057]

So can we ask Magnus "under what format would he play ...?"

[@shivasundar]

Simple response to @keithbrown6014: FIDE turned out to be *right and wise* !! Don't forget Kasparov-Karpov 1984 when one had to get to "6 wins" (the Fischer proposal was *_first to ten_* !!) - and they both were exhausted after _5 months_ !! Such an idiotic proposal. Respect the man (Fischer), but not _that crazy_ idea! [Any "x number of wins" proposal is dangerous - and unworkable/unfundable with current level of prep anyway. Even 3 wins. ]

[@srinidhiramesh4725]

"69th seed" 😂

[@Josuke217]

😂😂

[@marianoyalour]

The nicest of seeds

[@Viewer13128]

1:02 Lmao @ Kazuya Mishima

[@Hi_im_Nar]

I don't understand much of the situation here. Dont knows much about how the competition works and what's suppose to be wrong, can someone help me clarifying?

[@mrs9305]

Whats wrong with current format?

[@FlashGamer521]

Players often prepare for well over a year for the world championship, dropping other tournaments to make time for study. If you are a contender, that's fine, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. If you are the world champion, however, that means you are forced into a perpetual stage of preparation. It’s a lot of work. It’s especially frustrating as it is seemingly pointless. The point of a championship is to determine the best player. In chess, the field doesn’t change very quickly; we know this because ratings exist. Ratings remain relatively steady for quite a long time, there is no need to test to see who is the best every 2 years when almost nothing has changed in that time. Even the Olympics tests on a 4 year period, and that’s in athletics, where time plays a much bigger factor due to the effects of aging.

[@kwanro9172]

If you make one mistake, you basically lose the championship because of how few games there are. The way you solve this is to have more games so it's more likely the better player will win out. But you can't have more games, when each game lasts like 4-7 hours. It would be torture to play like 20+ games that all last hours. The solution as Magnus proposes is to then reduce the time, but play more games. He proposed giving each player 45 minutes, +15min at move 40, and time increments. Also, chess has evolved from the 1900s due to engines. Time management is arguably a better measure of a chess player's skill, as engines have made exploring and memorizing entire lines trivial. Anyone can use engines to prep and solve lines. Only the best can improv in a time crunch.

[@thedeadbaby]

also should demand that each player takes a shot of alcohol every 10 moves in classical time format

[@dereknichols4376]

Then he will win easily,he drunk most of the time in his stream beating gm right and left

[@aughlnal7333]

at least he learned to be clear about these things beforehand now.

[@masyan3457]

U mean about defending his title before? About that he still discussing about the format and tried to change it so it will be generally better for player and audience, but in the end still got rejected. This time he basically just repeated what he said before, if there's no change in the format then he wouldn't play.

[@aughlnal7333]

@@masyan3457 I was more talking about that he said he would defend his title against Firouzja, so people taught he wasn't that serious about it. (all though he still was pretty clear) I guess it is unconfirmed, but I think Fabiano would've gotten second place if he was sure Magnus wouldn't defend the title. Now there should be no doubt he won't play.

[@masyan3457]

@@aughlnal7333 about firouzja, I forgot where he talked about this but he confirmed it again and he said he actually gonna play if firouzja qualify back then. But now I guessed he's actually done if there's no change in the format.

[@andreihlen7597]

@@aughlnal7333 He was crystal clear, people just decided not to believe him, that's not his fault.

[@nikolayberestok9076]

Why didn't ask what he would change in the format?? All changes should be made to see him back....

[@JSSTyger]

Hikaru might have played in the 2023 WC Championship had he known during the Candidates tourney that the #2 spot would go. Hikaru didnt go for it and offered an early draw to Nepo.

[@aglieglie998]

And that's all because he decided not to believe MC's words... Had he believed him, he might be world champion now.

[@karna6634]

he had a huge chance to win it all that year

[@dereknichols4376]

@@MaxIronsThird Dude,just look at Hikaru's face when he made a blunder to Ding U cant really believe he didnt care right,he clearly so mad when he blundered against Ding Hikaru still fighting in that game

[@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406]

​@@dereknichols4376Also Hikaru didn't know he could play WC if he got 2nd at the time. He just wanted to get the event over with.

[@wnd9434]

That called " make the chess god curse you". He has the opportunity but he didn't take it.

[@idanbarhom]

Can someone explain please the meaning of this? What wrong about playing candidates?

[@dereknichols4376]

Magnus never like round robin without rapid/blitz He want the candidate to be like world cup knockout+rapid/blitz tiebreak,not all classical Because he believe a good chess player should be good with rapid+blitz too,not relying too much on engine prep on classical

[@rohankore3504]

By format I guess he wants mixture of semi classic and more rapid games in world championship

[@sagarsawant3955]

... dude is crushing everyone without been feeling that he is in great form! Magnus is a Goat

[@juliocadavid6640]

Magnus isnt in form imo, he has beaten all of his opponents but he hasnt had a real threat, like Caruana or Duda that eliminated last World cup. Gukesh and Keymer are def top tier but he didnt show any dominance. Still magnus is the goat, don't get me wrong, im a fanboy of his. He's not in his best. I'm even worry about his next match, abasov winning over him. I just don't see it as something impossible

[@sagarsawant3955]

@juliocadavid6640 yes caruana can be threat but magnus played game against Gukesh at estimated 3600 elo according to stockfish. That is insane. Magnus knows caruana is very strong in classical so he will draw all games and beat caruana in classical like he did in world championship ! I am pretty sure he is not spending lot of time on classical chess anymore but still he crushing lot of strong GM,s. I don't see Abasov beating magnus !

[@juliocadavid6640]

@@sagarsawant3955 Fair enough. That endgame against Gukesh was amazing. But his 3600 stockfish evaluated game was against someone else i think, don't remmember. He's favourite by a Lot against Abasov yeah, i'm just worry haha i don't know why. Maybe because Abasov is qualified and doesnt have enything to lose so the pressure is on magnus, since he's only reached semifinal twice in both the WCups he's played. If magnus reaches the final, i sinceresly don't care if he wins or not, but i really root for him in the semis

[@outerdimension7276]

The guy will qualify via World Cup, Grand Swiss and rating and still not playing the thing lol

[@jilow]

I wonder if his issue is the same as Bobby Fisher's. As you climb up in rank, you need to simply memorize longner and longer lines before you begin to think creatively again.

[@Ramin2340]

this narrative was proven false by ding liren who simply played openings super gms usually don't tho it came with great risk

[@dereknichols4376]

@@Ramin2340 U must be new to chess,the opening Ding use is also engine prep U clearly not following chess if u think Ding opening is 'unique' it isnt

[@KK-wv7vz]

What is the WCC format that magnus wants

[@Marrow452]

Round robin and knockouts, I think. Fairly certain he mentioned it in an interview at some point.

[@viniciuscaldas4143]

He wants a time format with less time on the clock and more matches to be played. Another thing is he wants all the 8 candidates fight for the title, for example the WCC would play the candidate as well he said would be more fair and he would like to play more players not only who win the candidates (sometimes the person who won is great against everyone and not against him) Nepo destroys everybody but when it comes Magnus, Nepo has no chance. Ding doesn’t destroy everybody else but against Magnus he goes well (as do Firouzja).

[@harnageaa]

20-50 matches, 45 min per match . So people use less memory, less preparation and more analytical skill,tactics,time pressure,etc.

[@ChessDownUnder]

I agree that they should consider changing the format to be mixed time controls. For example - to followers of cricket, I like how the women's Ashes series between AUS and ENG was. It was one long test match, followed by three ODIs and then three T20s. I think that approach isn't just "who is the better test match team?", but instead playing against all formats is asking the more general question "who is the best team?". I think the same can be applied to Chess. Consider something like the following: 2x Classical Matches (Each win is worth 5pts) 4x Rapid Matches (Each win is worth 3pts) 6x Blitz Matches (Each win is worth 2pts) That way its more of a true test of chess ability across the different time controls, and its not simply a test of who has the better team of seconds who were able to prepare the best novelties. Don't get me wrong, there is a part of that which I love as a chess spectator, to see the battle between the two camps. For example, when Krammnik played vs Annand and had their famous battles in the semi-slav, in many ways it was a battle between the seconds and a battle of preparation. I do find that interesting, but it shouldn't be EVERYTHING - thats why we should also bring rapid and blitz into the format as well so the World Championship match is also a test of chess general intuition. I also think it will bring more general popular attention to chess in general, the mixed format would appeal to a wider audience of more casual viewers. Casual viewers don't want to follow a single game of chess over multiple hours. That is why rapid and blitz events get so much viewership these days on streaming platforms, it appeals more to the masses. Cricket has realised this with their T20 format. All countries now have updated their main summer domestic events to revolve around T20 series, because the shorter time format is what brings the spectators to the stadium.

[@thedeadbaby]

is there ever a world champion who doesnt try to change the formats of the world championship?

[@dereknichols4376]

Nope,almost all of them refuse to play and want the format change Fischer,Kasparov is the most vocal one

[@nkarrpumpky]

CLASSICAL IS CHESS. Not shorter time controls.

[@ahriman935]

And chess is engines now.

[@ekankojic2411]

He’s right. On the other side, there’s a champ like Anand who played and won in every format, with all possible rule changes and never complained. Still, Magnus has a point in his case tho 🙄

[@Roverde]

But Magnus is a world champion in every other major format too? Lol

[@crbrearley]

A good chuck of Anand's career did not involve super-computers providing "click-space" moves. I think it's quite different.

[@crispanmampness]

magnus better than anand last month he beat him 4 times in different format... dont forget 2 wwc matches .. magnus just better chess player, and have better hair, he is better human than anand.

[@dereknichols4376]

Are u drunk dude? Magnus wont all 3 wcc format,,even more than Anand

[@apostle9209]

Anand is not good enough to lace magnus's shoes lmao

[@JustinHampton-l5j]

I hope org doesnt cave to the demands to switch time controls. A player should not use his unique status to change format so it's beneficial to him.

[@dereknichols4376]

But lets be honest,the format is very bad with all super engines right now All these engine prep make the game boring and give advantage to player who research the engines more That's why Magnus still dominated and play blitz/rapid wc,because it rely on skills and tactics instead of engine preps Also it's not beneficial to him alone Magnus can still win wc in classical,he just said it needs a lot fo effort to prep with super engines

[@duongtam4096]

Question from Kazuza Mishima lol

[@JRibs]

He’s giving the other guys a shot at being #1 because he’s uninterested in classical to the point where he will start declining. He already said he hates opening prep and keeping up with databases for one particular opponent just to relearn everything for the next opponent. It’s a bit maddening I’d assume, but also uses a lot of one’s time absorbing information that needs to pay off. Magnus just doesn’t want to put in the effort for the payoff. It’s simple as that. I’d say it’s a little lazy but Magnus is giving other players a chance to shine and he seems to enjoy that.

[@karanshome]

He's not gonna sugarcoat it

[@sudowtf]

People complained that the latest WC was less accurate than those coming before it, at least the ones that took place during the engine era. But people now are starting to realise that the accuracy really makes chess less interesting and fun. Do you want your favourite player to blast 20 moves of theory and then play the engine line offered to him/her by an engine that ran on dedicated hardware at 1bln nodes, or, do you want an interesting game with mistakes, inaccuracies and the possibility to actually analyse it without knowing what is right beforehand?

[@dereknichols4376]

Ding and Nepo also use super engine preps in opening+middle,but they made so many blunders in endgame This is why Magnus want the format to change,so they add rapid+blitz,so people wont rely too much on engine preps Magnus really hate engine preps

[@xyzer586]

​​​@@dereknichols4376why does magnus hate engine preps?😂 They are professionals not club players.also it is impossible to prepare against magnus in opening or middlegame he is a well prepared guy

[@optimalbrand]

lol very tactful assessment there. 'playing with house money'. Lot of subtext.

[@PaleBlueDot711]

Ask him what changes he wants instead of "hEy yOu hEaRd it hErE fiRsT..."

[@dereknichols4376]

He already noted it so many times He didn't want all out classical matches,like 12 in the row He wanted it to be the combination He said once in Norwegian interview=he prefered it to be like classiscal+rapid/blitz So after a draw=they will play rapid/blitz until there is a decisive result,instead of playing nonstop classical with the same engine prep

[@toaster4693]

He should make way more demands like the goat Bobby Fischer.

[@Glock7eventeen]

Bobby Fischer was a global superstar, everyone knew who he was and he was incredibly famous. Magnus may be better than him in terms of elo, but he isn’t even close to Bobby’s level of fame and power. Most people outside of chess don’t know who he is.

[@salvator222]

Doesn't he already have a spot in the candidates regardless of this competition, just for being 1st rated player ??

[@dereknichols4376]

Yes,but he wont accept it anyway Magnus never take back his word

[@marcinsocha1500]

Nobody mentioning Ding Liren. Will he be defending his titile, I am not so sure.

[@dereknichols4376]

He didnt even join any events for months....

[@perkl1234]

The problem with WC tournament is that the system favors playing draws and attempting one win at the last possible moment. You minimize your risk and maximize the chance of winning the whole thing. What Magnus essentially wants is more games and less swingy results. The easiest format to achieve this would be playing until one side has won 6 games... but Kasparov - Karpov 1984 put a stop to that. 48 games which lasted for 5 months and only ended because Karpov collapsed and ended up in a hospital. Playing more shorter games, determining world champ via some other means (rating, score from classical tournaments) etc. are other options. But here's the thing: FIDE doesn't want to change the event because it's the most popular and best known chess event. It makes them the most money and gives chess the most visibility. Good luck fixing that.

[@b4nnediss_here721]

Guys noone noticed? - We have a question from audience from KAZUYA MISHIMA 😂😂

[@Divinetots]

pretty much reasonable for magnus. because its unfair for those who fight magnus early like gukesh and keymer.

[@eurabio]

What is wrong with the format according to him?

[@dereknichols4376]

Too much classical games,so its not a chess game anymore,but engine preps He want to add rapid/blitz,so people wont rely too much on engine preps Also he want to change the wc format to knockout,instead of 1 vs 1 Basically the format of world cup

[@firebug3256]

His constant whining about the format is just a cover so he doesn't have to say he's bored. He's clearly better than any of his peers and is tired of giving them a beatdown over and over again. Right now he's just waiting for the young guys to get strong enough to hopefully present a challenge.

[@Mariowatchesyt45]

What would magnus like to change about the world championship format?

[@strawmoon9963]

why cant you ask on what circumstances will he play? i mean its interesting isnt it? i dont like 7 hour matches or so. its way too long even for classical. chess cant be like that and remain interest like 50 years ago. we need changes

[@FlashGamer521]

I doubt he would want to voice his opinion on that. He probably feels that it's not his place. As for when he would play, I assume he would play if it was every 4 years instead of every 2, the preparation time seems to be the main issue -- not match time.

[@itox85]

could someone tell me what kind of format did magnus wants?

[@dereknichols4376]

A combination of classical+rapid/blitz Not all out classical with engine preps all the way,he wanted to add rapid/blitz too so people wont just use engine preps for draw as tie break

[@luzbellcam1768]

Magnus Push the fide wowww

[@MagisterVeritas]

Ding, are you the World Champion? Ding: yes Are you the best in the world? Ding: no Why? Ding: Because Norway, that's why

[@MultiFirefox23]

I hope FIDE will bring back the Candidates' Matches.

[@Bobbicaponata]

what does that even mean?

[@georgeharrisonOK]

What is wromg with the candidate's format!

[@dereknichols4376]

Too much classical with engine preps,magnus prefer to add rapid/blitz too,so people wont rely too much on engine preps,its exhausted and boring for him

[@diegojimenez6867]

What are the changes that Magnus wants?

[@rzrshrk7883]

Shorter time controls and a knockout format instead of having the Candidates Tournament and then the reigning champion only playing one really long match where most of the games end in draws.

[@togfanatic3781]

we all hate draws

[@diegojimenez6867]

@@rzrshrk7883 thanks

[@Ty-dk6qu]

The format is almost worth changing when the greatest of all time is bored of it and refuses to defend world titles anymore after doing so over and over and over

[@king0vdarkness]

what are the terms that he is not happy with?

[@ferdinandlouiepia3689]

Feel bad for all the super GMs knocked out by magnus. They all been wanting even just a spot in that candidates. Truly truly sorry for them.

[@vedanshbhardwaj6548]

But you gotta earn it anyways no ?

[@cmc2110]

I feel bad for Vincent and Gukesh. A match between the two would’ve been amazing

[@maxilexow]

Anyway, Pragg, Abbasov and Caruana clearly deserve the place in the Candidates. The GMs knocked out by Magnus just got bad luck

[@drdrjr13]

@@maxilexowWell, if they are unable to beat Magnus, they shouldn’t be world champions anyway

[@joehowa2810]

@@drdrjr13 so everyone shouldnt be Champ

[@rohan1864]

Does he ever elaborate on what it is exactly that he doesn't like about the "current format"? I don't see why he wouldn't at least want to play against other top players to fight for more elo.

[@generalmalaise2930]

by the current candidates format he is mostly referring to the classical portions i think, as for elo, he literally doesnt care

[@faisalmuhamad4893]

He had to face the winner of candidates to defend the title. So, it seems that he is boring on top.

[@DexM47]

@@generalmalaise2930 Well, I get the meme and all, but to be exact, the ELO is pretty the only thing he cares about actually, he said it himself

[@Roverde]

Yes he doesnt enjoy preparing for months in order to get a 0.3 advantage and mostly getting draws. Basically the style of chess is boring to him and does not amuse him as he has already reached all the goals he had.

[@shadow52089]

Magnus wants Four games of rapid 25+10 each day or six games of 15 +10. Match would be like best of 48 to 60 depending on time control. His reasoning was that to determine best player you have to play lots of games to minimize chance of error. Also in shorter time control the game is more about chess abilities rather than endless amount of preparation. He added that rapid format does not remove importance of preparation.

[@tym_fed]

Candidates Tournament should be double-elimination (winner and looser bracket, if you lose you go to the lower bracket, final will be played between winner from upper bracket and winner from lower bracket)

[@grievous5243]

Kinda sucks Magnus hates Classical because I did at first but now I'm used to it because there's so many talented commentators in Chess 😅

[@manuelbonelli3690]

To watch it is not as stressful as to play it obviously...look at ding...one wcc and he is out for months now just to recover

[@SelfImprovement1111]

Trust me, playing rapid chess can be stressful because I get agitated when my opponent doesn’t make a move quick enough.

[@irichakraborty2328]

king dont play candidates

[@omare7475]

Isn't his goal to reach 2900 rating? how will he do that if he won't play other high ranking players like in the candidates?

[@ahriman935]

You do realize that there's a crapload of other tournamets (like this^^ one) where he can player other top players which *aren't* the candidates?

[@omare7475]

@@ahriman935 yes, but in the other tournaments, it's usually in the semi-final and final where he faces the highest rated players, in the candidates, it's all of the players, that's the difference. Plus he can play the candidates and still turn down the world championship.

[@ahriman935]

@@omare7475 Oh no, that would be the dick move of the highest order and chess world would entirely scorn him for that. The number of places in the candidates is limited, and if he took part in it just to refuse to play the championship match should he win, that would be wasting a spot and depriving of one other player a chance at world championship match. That would be extremely unfair and selfish. For the first point, I disagree. He faces basically the same players in most tournaments as he would in the candidates. Yeah, candidates is a smudge higher rated overall tournament than some random invitational, but not enough to warrant a dick move described above.

[@ibrahim0201]

Magnus take your title back. Please People want to see you as world champion 🏆 again

[@googlemapsspeedruns777]

Fisher 2.0 just that he's a better human being overall

[@opticalmixing23]

Don't blame him

[@johnnydoe3603]

How about having a Lottery that will Decide the Opening for the Next Day and Opponents get to Remove some Openings too. 😂

[@danielw00]

Basicly fischer random?

[@shin29534]

That's just unfair it won't be classical chess anymore

[@googooboyy]

Carlsen wishful for a format change upon FIDE, is like Messi or Ronaldo wishful for FIFA to change stuffs.

[@thedeadbaby]

he should make the demand that everyone in candidates is allowed a butt engine.

[@Curze123]

They should copy the format of the World Cup also for the Candidates. It’s so much more entertaining!

[@johnnydoe3603]

This format allows for Fixing the Spots. It’s Not Fair given how some Players are Seeded without much Competition. 😂

[@stagna1959]

It already was in World Championsips, Candidates knock-out tournaments That is how Spassky qualified to W CH match in 1965 and 1968, that is how Fischer qualified to play W CH match in 1971. It was not the perfect format , but was surely better than Candidates round robin tournament, which left lot of possibilities to fix games, prearrange draws and giving away full points to leader who just "happens to be your countryman, teammate and good friend " while you already lost theoretical chance to win the tournament.

[@chesscomsupport8689]

@@stagna1959 How often has the "giving away full points" scenario happened within the current format?

[@manuelbonelli3690]

​@@chesscomsupport8689it happens a lot. If you know you don't need to win and your opponent is fine you can just do a quick draw. A format like the world cup doesn't allow that for obvious reasons

[@crbrearley]

It's not entertaining to sponsors who could see all the big names eliminated in early rounds and see the audience disappear. This format is as bad as it is good.

[@hannes8978]

KAZUYA MISHIMA

[@theguardian308]

Sad for Ding but everyone knows Magnus is the number 1. I love what Magnus is doing for chess, getting the younger and broader people interested in chess

[@rs45888]

best way to sort this is to make a voting of all players... then Magnus can decide again based on the votes...

[@manuelbonelli3690]

What do you mean? Lol

[@elonif4125]

Hear me out: 16 players qualify for the WC. There’s no Candidates, just one big tournament. They play in 4 4-men groups where the best two get to the Quarterfinals. Time Control is 90 minutes plus 30 second increment per move without additional time (which often confuses new viewers). In the Groups you play two times against each opponent which equals 6 games. In the Quarterfinals and Semifinals you play 4 games, in the Final 6. If a match is tied there could be the Tiebreak format from the World Cup. In total there would be 20 games/days of play. What do you think?

[@AnubhavShah]

carlsen needs to play. atleast so another person who may win can get the sense of achievement they deserve.

[@dereknichols4376]

we dont have the right to force him he can decide whatever he want to do

[@togfanatic3781]

what ? force someone who doesnt want to play ? how is it a sense of achievement if u beat someone who isnt on best form ?

[@AnubhavShah]

@@togfanatic3781 cause whatever his perceived form, he just won. he is the top player. is this news to you?

[@spiralni]

So u want to be champion of what? 3min chess games?

[@wertyks508]

He won everything several times

[@diskritis2076]

He is technically the current blitz WC

[@johnnydoe3603]

@@wertyks508You didn’t Answer the Question. Does Magnus want to Play Bullet for World Championship or Classical Chess ? 😂

[@johnnydoe3603]

@@diskritis2076Then why does he Want to turn WC into a Blitz Championship ? 😂

[@shadow52089]

Magnus wants Four games of rapid 25+10 each day or six games of 15 +10. Match would be like best of 48 to 60 depending on time control. His reasoning was that to determine best player you have to play lots of games to minimize chance of error. Also in shorter time control the game is more about chess abilities rather than endless amount of preparation. He added that rapid format does not remove importance of preparation.

[@Ashish_Remmersu]

69th seed abasov 😂

[@joehowa2810]

First Morphy then now Einstein become Magnus of chess, maybe someday even God become Magnus!

[@Leonhard_Euler99]

FIDE should do everything to bring Magnus back and of course I support Magnus. No wonder he doesn't want to waste months of his life to proof what doesn't have to be proved anymore. Everyone knows who's the boss. No need to waste his life for such thing. FIDE should make it not that life consuming.

[@ARS1508]

I respect his decision Because I can see how even one world championship has taken a toll on nepo and ding. While Magnus has consistently smashed through so many tournaments. He is playing so much chess. Just not classical. He has been so vocal about it. He doesn’t find the format appealing which actually was favorable to him as the reigning world champion. It’s so sad for me as a chess fan but I cannot express my joy to see him really happy playing rapid and blitz. He has given us a decade of classical chess excellence. I’m pumped and excited for his newfound love of blitz and rapid because he is CRUSHING it ❤

[@grownupgaming]

what exactly about the format would Magnus like to change it to?

[@daniellejugos2888]

I think he wants more of a rapid-ish time control.. like 30 min

[@ARS1508]

@@daniellejugos2888 no he wants more number of games as well.

[@johnnydoe3603]

@@grownupgamingHe wants Shorter Time Control so that Opponents don’t have Time to Calculate and Magnus with his Vast Experience can Out manoeuvre them. 😂

[@johnnydoe3603]

@@daniellejugos2888Don’t they have World Rapid Championship for that. 😂

[@Emil54]

Magnus Carlsen is the highest rated player in history (Now 2835) Current World Champinion in Blits nd Rapid Champion If he should go on to win also this Chess World Cup but choose not to play the Candidates and Classical World Championship match we will soon have a new world champion which is clearly NOT the best player in the world... Maybe they should change the format. Missing out on the World Championship matches of the great Magnus Carlsen is just so sad...

[@simple45679]

wdym "we will soon" . it already happened, ding liren is the world champ because carlsen didn't defend his title.

[@rainman6090]

Where have you been for the last six months?

[@Pwnz0rh3nk]

Bro we already have a new world champion, it's Ding.

[@Emil54]

Ding is not a better player at all... And that was my point... Does not matter who holds the title.... Magnus Carlsen is the GOAT and will probably be for many years to come... He would win if he played... Its like when Usain Bolt made a false start in 2011 World Championships... Everyone knew he was the best even thow Yohan Blake won the 2011 gold medal...

[@Pwnz0rh3nk]

@@Emil54 where did I say Ding is a better player? Obviously Magnus is better that's why he's on top of the rankings. But Ding is the current world champion and that's a fact.

[@sebastiansorano8025]

Magnus is the biggest G.O.A.T chess has ever seen. Magnus Opus!

[@yuvraj5405]

If for a single person FIDE changes format then we know how baised it is

[@user-xu9tq2fn8b]

He's not just any other player. He's been the highest rated player in the history of chess and the only current 2800. If they make an exception if must surely be for him.

[@swarooprajpurohit110]

@@user-xu9tq2fn8b I want all the chess players to decide. Even if they ask all the players, no one would select the current format. It sucks

[@edmund1737]

@@user-xu9tq2fn8bI don’t care who he is. One player should not dictate how fide runs things. I actually do think they should stand their ground.

[@dankake]

He won 5 times in a row, and is the current holder of the other time control formats world tiles, so, in fact, he earned the right to ask for changes without being perceived as having a selfish agenda. Not, when he pushes for the WCC to be more inclusive, so, i believe, they should ask all the players and the federations for their opinion about a change regarding the WCC. And, if there was only the classic format, i wouldn't even be posting a comment about chess...but that is just me...

[@dereknichols4376]

@@edmund1737 Remember history?it happened with Fischer and Kasparov too Fide stand their ground and look what happen in the end

[@BlckJack123]

Magnus is still the champ in my eyes.

[@finmat95]

So he doesn't want to fight against Ding. Good.

[@dereknichols4376]

Lmao,because Ding is boring,made too much blunders against Nepo

[@finmat95]

@@dereknichols4376 Yep.