Underfloor Heating Pipes Are In! BUT...

We're making progress on our Portuguese stone building renovation. Our long-awaited parts for the underfloor heating system have arrived and it's time to crack on with the install.
In this video we lay all the pipe and connect it back to the manifold. But, as usual, not everything goes to plan. Join us for some good times, some relaxing timelapse and some good old fashioned frustration.
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[@lisaallran3029]

You guys watching paint dry would make for great viewing!!! Love your humor!! Amazing team!

[@MAKEDOGROW]

😂🤣 maybe we’ll do that one day with a glass of wine 😂

[@constancestine1020]

You all are such a great team, there’s really nothing that you can’t “redo” as long as you have each other!

[@fabrijohanna]

awwwwww romantic

[@markduncan6690]

Kylie is Great! Ever Patient, and so Amusing!

[@barbarakujawa320]

Feb. 3 2024 California watching one of your videos on smoothing walls in kitchen. As is I just enjoy each video that comes along. God bless🙏

[@lieselotte521]

Beautifully done , congrats ! Another job done . 👍 I love the underfloor heating that my husband and I installed when we built our house 28 years ago .🏠 It makes such a difference when the warmth comes from below , not from a radiator . I' m sure you' ll also be forever grateful for having gone through all the trouble . 😜 Keep up the spirit !

[@ted5620]

I hope you don't mind me questioning the use of PTFE tape on your compression fittings . The tape will prevent you tightening the nut . It looks like the seal is made by the o ring & the ferrule crimping the plastic pipe , Not at the thread , like it would be on a tapered thread , where you would use PTFE tape .

[@jamielandis4606]

I’m so invested in your project now! I can’t wait to see it finished, but, I don’t want it to end! Lol!

[@pauline-bc-com-missp]

Tedious but satisfying 👍 love it when you get her laughing.

[@alicekenworthy9603]

Kylie your logic speaks volumes … yet again you have both ensured its a job well done 👍 Durban SA 🇿🇦

[@dudleysdad]

I have suffered the pain of sore knees due to having to kneel - stiff back and overweight . Protecting your knees is important for later life. I found out too late. Best thing I ever found were Lidl/Aldi trousers with pockets for knee pads. Saving on constant moving of a 'kneeler' of some sort and always there for that unexpected need to kneel. I enjoy every minute of your vlogs and greatly admire your willingness to show the building process warts and all. You are one of the easiest most enjoyable vlogs to watch due to your laid back style quality of presentation. Many thanks for allowing us to follow along.

[@anneyday3493]

Wow, that looks like it would have tested the patience of a saint.

[@SailingCartagena]

When the heat rises all the work will have been worthwhile. A few miles away we are also installing our own lenha fueled central heating. Makes sense living by the forest.

[@monalingan9523]

Incredibly laborious project. My hat is off to the two of you!

[@ernestobastos1]

Very nice and clear explanation of a floor heated system. Well done!

[@mannydossantos9603]

Underfloor heating is such a bonus in the inland winters in Portugal. Wise decision... the hard work will be worth it. I'm impressed with your courage and skills!

[@Robert-ij9ih]

Best Portuguese "UK" Homestead Channel 🔥😅👍

[@vickyoakes4584]

Coming together nicely. I think that I would prefer the underfloor heating due to all the reasons you stated and I think it will be a more even heat as well. The walls that you finished are looking very nice also. Amazing transformation.

[@nena4215]

Congratulations on almost finishing the hard job!

[@sgrvtl7183]

Your information is very interesting. You two are amazing! hard workers.....lots of patience~wow. Thank you for sharing!

[@mariaarlen956]

You two are incredible, Great job!! From Spain

[@louishassink172]

Good choice to go for the underfloor heating. I have a remark for the pipe connections: The system with internal thule and conical ring outside the pex will seal between the pex and the liner and conical ring. Do not put tape on the thread, because it limits the force between the sealing components. Thanks for all your video’s and greetings from The Netherlands!

[@GotMoreCakes]

Yeh I agree, the tape is definitely unnecessary

[@Linnet09]

I'm so impressed by your meticulous and detailed planning! I hope the part arrived and the testing went well.

[@user-db4jt4fn5u]

Hello A little tip. There are springs that can be slipped over the tubes. This will help keep the bends in the tubes within tolerances and not damage the tube. Some of your bends look a bit very sharp. Many greetings Gerrit

[@davidfellowes1628]

What an incredible milestone for you both. Well done.

[@luminyam6145]

Amazing team, that is going to be nice and cozy in the winter.

[@LCamp-cr7fs]

I first experienced underfloor heating in the early 70s. It was fantastic, toasty feet, easy to clean, unrestricted furniture placement and even heat distribution. You’ll love it!

[@MAKEDOGROW]

We did the same in London in a large kitchen/lounge extension so it was a no brainer to do it here since we’re ripping anything out 😃

[@guydauderman1645]

I grew up in Michigan and we had radiant heat. The thermostat was set to 62F (20 C) and we ran around the house barefooted. When your feet are warm you don’t feel cold. The old mechanical contractor used to refer to forced air heating as “burnt air” LOL!

[@jenaemarieAZ]

I love Kylie! She isn’t fake ever. Down to earth and realistic. Guy and Kylie are a great team and I really enjoy the process.

[@g.f.-w.9130]

He wasn't stubborn. He persevered!!

[@teresaquintinha7361]

So much care in the details. That house is going to be amazing.

[@marianela111]

Guy, the king of innuendo 🤪🤣🤣🤣 You two are a magic combo. 😃 🌻🐈🇬🇧

[@jenaemarieAZ]

Another great thing about your work is that you never cut corners. You want to do the project (be it laying pipe or planting a garden or replacing lintels or any of the other myriad of things you do on your farm) without cutting corners. Even going to the length of redoing whatever you did incorrectly. I am so impressed!

[@carolbulmer8253]

Another task under control! Well done, Kylie and Guy❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏

[@thethreeamigos6764]

Well done guy, love you 2 ,

[@BeingLiving]

You guys are bloody awesome 🎉

[@nelsondesilva3916]

Nice catch there at the end Guy, the byyyee is critical 😉 Just saw the next video, can't wait to go home and watch it.

[@linrepboras]

Lime and metal - did not know that, thanks! Someone's done their homework properly regarding the patterm of the pipes, I got underfloor heating with water pipes and another advantage is the soft shift perceived when the system regulates the amount of heating required. Also there's no drafts or cold spots using traditional wall mounted heating elements. Another benefit is no need for slippers or even socks making your morning coffee, warm and comfortable floors. The sight of bare hobbit feets is easily avoided by not looking down, your view should always be onward and up. Keep up the good work!

[@suzzie5164]

Well done! What a bloody task! You could do with workman's trousers with knee pads - under floor heating scares me a bit... Well done 👍

[@MAKEDOGROW]

I’ve been looking for those types of trousers for years… but the ones I’ve found only come in slim-female shape 😂. Might have to make my own

[@jbyrd2516]

Well done folks, hope the replacement part arrives on time. 😊

[@nancibishof6462]

I really like the wall finish. It appears on the video like a Venetian plaster finish. Great progress!

[@lynnelewis9605]

Hi guy's your doing a fantastic job there I can c it's hard work what your doing it's just amazing. X

[@lucaspolderman6622]

“Just say: Bye”. “Oh bye”.😂😅

[@karentan5563]

Oh Wow, alot of tedious work that requires great determination and focus. Both of you are a great team. Well done... Thank you for sharing. Wishing both good health, do rest well and enjoy. God bless... Amen.

[@BritishAnts]

Relaxing video! ❤ fosters and pipe laying! Bye! 😂❤

[@BritishAnts]

I was drinking Fosters (lager) btw! 😊

[@andreacrashe9894]

*Kylie & Guy, another awesome job done.... well done.*

[@jarvis9283]

Great lessons guys maybe mention how the wood burning backup system will work when you don’t have enough solar power, when you get a minute PMSL !!

[@peternash6206]

Great video. Just a thought - many years ago I installed underfloor heating which keeps us warm some 20 years on but I did not plan the bathroom installation that well - I kept the heating pipes too far away from the toilet bowl and everytime you use the toilet your feet are standing on a cold section of floor. It bugs me 20 years on especially in the middle of a really cold night. Good luck and thanks for sharing. By the way over the years I have settled on leaving the underfloor on 24/7 on the meanest low setting ever - it really works and is cost effective.

[@RaisingVoyagers]

Brilliant! This is the same setup that we plan to work on in a few months so excited to follow the progress! We are also going to be fully electric with a wood fired assist. Brilliant work!

[@jamessteele1550]

Awesome videos and project. Bravo from Montana, 🇺🇸.

[@luisnovalez7807]

I subscribed to your channel from the beginning. The both of you make an outstanding team. I am sure your home is going to be lovely, and I am blessed to be along for the ride. Thank you both for creating this channel. May God bless you both on your journey, your friend Luis Novalez (Chicago, Illinois, USA)

[@valeriecarwithen9276]

Bye! And thanks for the really clear explanation re: your overall plan.

[@martyosullivan7233]

3 hours to attach one part...I feel your pain. You should ask my son sometime about how Dad gets on with replacing light bulbs.

[@Bobrogers99]

I hadn't thought about backup when you have a series of grey days, but you did! Being able to use a wood burner is a great idea. And there's a law about having exactly enough parts to complete a job. If you had bought extras you wouldn't have needed them.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

I have a whole box of plumbing extras from previous renovations …. you always have too many or not enough, always!! 😂

[@jamesgrover2005]

No happy ending?!. 😱 I have great confidence in your combined persistence, It's looking amazing, great job!

[@maeveskelly4686]

Thanks for the great video. I’m expecting to start building my home later this year in Ireland and expect to have underfloor heating installed so hearing your rationale behind the grid layout gave me a eureka moment and I’m now off to design my own grid!! 👍👍👍

[@eartecathy7378]

I lived with under floor heating for 20 years. I liked it , I hope you enjoy yours.

[@guydauderman1645]

Tip of the day. Cut open the rool of PEX and let it warm in the sun for a few hours and it’s much easier to layout and fasten to your grid.

[@davidcuttle4340]

Great team and what I like we get all the warts and all. Well done

[@lindamorrow7573]

Awesome progress....👍👍👍👍👍

[@WhataTry]

You guys are a great team, thanks enjoyed the video.

[@gaynor3976]

Such great progress, I'm quite excited about it all. Well done both of you xx

[@martincrook5057]

something to watch for while pouring your floor, the pipe likes to float. So make sure the mat is truly over secure. Great work by the way

[@carolg.prevette5483]

Love your videos! Such a big project you are doing! ❤❤❤

[@sherry2836]

Rust not good for under floor but love what it did to that 21:30 door!

[@patriciagale955]

Thank you for a very interesting and informative video. Great team work 👏

[@joanbroadway759]

You two really are amazing.

[@carolynkennedy7772]

Looking super, you guys! Can't wait to see you walk barefoot 😉 on your toasty warm floors when it's cold and damp. Giddy up! Thanks for sharing the progress! 😊

[@sergiolewes]

Fantastic job. This house is going to be amazing

[@robynclarke5274]

My you have been busy. I love the way you check and check till you're sure. Thanks for your informative explanations about under floor heating.

[@MrDiasJoana]

It’s going turn a wonderful stone cottage !! ❤

[@keyem4504]

Nice project. As always well researched and planned. And of course executed. I hope you'll have a lot of cosy winters in these rooms.❄️☃️

[@deirdrehickey2183]

Very well done guys, that looked like very hard and frustrating work. I. Sure you are very glad it’s done.🥰🥰🥰🥰👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@kallefriberg8766]

Thanks, especially for explaining the spiral layout! Keeping my fingers crossed that you can move on to slabbing next week.

[@brettn4337]

G'day again from downunder Kylie & Guy. I've never laid underfloor heating, but I can imagine it would be a pain in the arse to do. Seeing you two are DIYing your house, I'd love to see you design and build the backup wood burner for the underfloor heating. That would be a great video. Keep up the great work 👍

[@jameshenderson8146]

Great work you two!

[@janicehoffman8348]

I laughed when you said you have to say good bye, just luv your sense of humor and wish you both much success and can't wait for next video

[@davidcarter7055]

You made that look so easy great job

[@poodlegirl55]

Great job. We had underfloor heat in some of the rooms in our last house in Illinois. It even had it in the garage which was super nice in sub zero weather.

[@terrihulm873]

Great job... I've never done under floor heating... All the under floor heating I've seen done had silver metal reflective under it so all the heat rises... Maybe it's different when there's damp idk... But great job...

[@fxly]

16:29 When you cut PEX-AL-PEX, it sometimes has a tendency to deform (especially if your cutters aren’t 100% sharp) that’s why you need to reshape the cut end with a reamer/reshaping tool before you insert the brass compression fitting - the reshaping tools are usually supplied free with the UFH pipe but any good plumbing merchant would have them - Leroy Merlin for example. I think it’s called a calibrador interno e externo.

[@fxly]

Sorry another reason why you should use the reamer/champher tool is that it removes the sharp burr on the PEX-AL-PEX pipe that could cut or damage the O-ring on your compression fittings.

[@anapaulalopes2862]

God job...congrats👍😘

[@johanswede8200]

I will not get tired of following your life...Why? You are both intelligent. So I can learn a thing or two...😘

[@setaripantheon8801]

I have worked almost 10years as s Project Leaders in construction and some years of Carpentry and some as a Concrete/Rebar Worker. You can't really defend Electric floor heating anymore if you calculate the Floor heating cost over it's lifetime. You did the complety right decision with water carried floor heating! Well done! You will not regret it! (if you want to do an "Uppgrade", buy a air-to-air pump or even better a Geothermal heat pump with a drill hole.)

[@Cruziper]

Liked already! Let’s watch it now 😄

[@janhodgson1740]

Another masterclass in how to do a renovation in Portugal properly.. unlike knock it together then redo next week!! 😊

[@katiebice3905]

Have you thought about a rooftop wind machine? The newest ones are not that expensive, (in the US, they are a quarter of the price of solar) need only 3mph to work, is housed in a box like structure so birds cannot fly into it & are just as efficient if not more efficient than solar. You could put on one of the outbuilding so not to desecrate your beautiful old stone house. Worth looking into & planning for the future.

[@florentinalily]

Great job, well done!

[@micca1280]

Like mentioned before, don't think Teflon should be added on compression fittings. The most important part is to cut the pex pipe properly and calibrate them before adding the compression fittings.

[@rnggall9640]

Well done! you avoided what I think is the most rookie mistake you kept control of the piping so many people let it spool out and become a twisted kink prone mess! A++

[@warrenshalm550]

Well planned and installed!

[@warrenshalm550]

Heat pump should work well as in floor heating fluid is warm not hot!

[@zlatahume3134]

Good luck with the floor, it will great tick off after the slab is down😊

[@VascoHenr]

Maybe the water can be passed through a direct sunlight heating system, maybe just a bunch of black pipes inside a box, before any active heating element. Plenty of cold days in Portugal are sunny. Maybe would have to be bypassed when not enough sunlight, some valve/relay controlled by a light meter perhaps?

[@sarahlovesdonuts9601]

This might sound weird, and this is not a swinger party invitation. I love you guys. You remind me so much of my husband and I. Fortunately, I have a very rare disease, so I’ve not been able to get my husband to move to Europe…but I think we would have a great time having drinks😁

[@schoppepetzer9267]

Thanks for answering the question about electrical floor heating. We here in the Algarve have chosen electrical, for living room (approx. 30sqm) and bathroom (approx. 6sqm). It runs all day, thermostat is set to 21 degrees in living room, 23 in bathroom. The living room section draws about 3,500 Watts. We're still collecting more use data but normally runtime would be from November to March only. We complement in bathroom with infrared ceiling panel. So far we're quite happy, the response time is minutes which we like most.

[@susanfabian1521]

You answered every question I had!

[@ruthkirkparick3535]

You just may have presented the solution to heating the "tiny house" we will be renovating in the near future. We found some good information about retrofitting under-floor heating from below an existing floor (from the basement). We will be following your excellent example of thoroughly researching this possibility. It would not have occurred to us if we hadn't seen what you are doing. Thank you!

[@Philiphillos]

Hey guys great work, don't bother with the PTFE on the manifold it wont do anything to stop leaks, the olives in the pipe it what seals the pipe from leaking the PTFE on the threads just makes it harder to tighten the nut with no gain or benefit.

[@lucjanszulik7354]

hmmm, a bit different how you would do floor heating in Poland, but we are talking about different temperatures in the winter

[@dianaford6738]

Another great video! 👏🤝

[@hemlock40]

Sun Energy out of Coimbra might be another option for you. They are in the middle of installing our Vaillant heating/cooling heat pump system, which is large and complex. The demand for the equipment and a shortage of trained installation technicians are high, but they are working hard.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

Oh, thanks, will check them out. Any reason you chose Vaillant? We’ve always had their gas boilers but don’t know much about their reputation with heat pumps

[@hemlock40]

@@MAKEDOGROW I did a lot of research, and the general consensus is that Vaillant is the best in Europe for a long list of reasons. Especially in our application. Made in Germany, reliability, CoP, etc. And we're fortunate that Portugal readily receives goods from Germany.

[@nataliaghidirim1655]

love it. love it. love it. thanks

[@Techa-lo2dc]

At 15:48 I don't think that you need PTFE tape on the threads of those fittings. They appear to have either an o-ring or a taper on the inside so there is no need for tape on the thread, it just makes it harder to put together and get a good seal. I am not familiar with those particular fittings, but have done tons of other brass threads and fittings. if any of these joints leak during testing, I'd take the tape off before re-tightening. Love your videos, thanks...