{Bully Pacifist Ending} Outertale: Project Spacetime Gameplay

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@desertsandfly2277
@desertsandfly2277 4 ай бұрын
"You didn't kill anyone but you beat up a lot of people." So basically Frisk became Batman.
@Janjaoo_2000
@Janjaoo_2000 4 ай бұрын
"Twinkly, im vengance!"
@monkeyofchaos13
@monkeyofchaos13 3 ай бұрын
I am HuMAN
@JonnySpec
@JonnySpec 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason why the ending is so different from what happens if you abandon the bully route at Asriel is that we remind Asriel of when he was killed by humans long ago, and that fear is then felt by every monster.
@NPC._.l
@NPC._.l 4 ай бұрын
Asriel:Literally becomes god Bully Frisk: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eyes 😑
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 3 ай бұрын
* Forgive * Do not. ❤ Want forgiveness? Get religion.
@eli_three
@eli_three 4 ай бұрын
you missed some lines from frisk on the title screen if you close and re-open the game: (...) (You're so alone.) (...) (You're so afraid.) (...) (You'd do anything to get another chance...) (...even if it means forgetting everything you've ever known.) (...) (But the choice wasn't yours to make.) (It's someone else's choice, now.) this refers to frisk wanting the player to do a true reset also fun fact! this is the only route im aware of where you can steal from gerson/burgerpants/temmie's shops!
@aceantarctic5207
@aceantarctic5207 4 ай бұрын
You actually missed something speical in the bully route If you help monster kid when their jetpack fails instead of blocking Undyne, you get unique dialogue from her where she actually DOES respect you for your fighting ability but still not killing anyone, you even get a unique ending to her fight where you can actually wait her attacks out and she'll spare you automatically. Then if you do her date before MTT's price is right gameshow she will actually take the place of Sans during it, which leads to a lot of new outcomes for that show.
@Underplaytale
@Underplaytale 4 ай бұрын
wow
@sandtheunderman
@sandtheunderman 4 ай бұрын
@@Underplaytale ya suck the opportunity
@L1MBO12
@L1MBO12 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that's how I did this route me and undyne became besties
@Funko302
@Funko302 4 ай бұрын
is there a vid about this?
@elliethejellie
@elliethejellie 4 ай бұрын
​@@L1MBO12hm just curious. I did this during my aborted bully route (Basically not attacking the lost souls). What changes in dialogue are there for asriel if you don't abort it? Does he mention undyne?
@SIVA-Warlock
@SIVA-Warlock 4 ай бұрын
This has to be the darkest ending on any Undertale fangame ever
@fraquero3192
@fraquero3192 4 ай бұрын
crazy how they made a pacifist ending worse than a genocide, or even dark neutral one
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf 4 ай бұрын
True
@selena3467
@selena3467 4 ай бұрын
Honestly after seeing this doing a chaotic route is completly justified. You don't just leave a child to slowly die of suffocation. Yes they were horrible to the other monsters but they are a child and never went out of their way to actually kill someone. They don't have to forgive Frisk but maybe do literally anything else?!
@paradoxicaloutcome1007
@paradoxicaloutcome1007 3 ай бұрын
This ending... makes no sense no matter which way you slice it. Mind you you don't even need to be THAT much of an asshole to get this ending. All you need to do is bully spare 30 monsters, which you can do even if you never go out your way to grind, and attack the Lost Souls. That's it. You can rescue Monster Kid and gain the respect of Undyne as a fellow warrior, you can call Toriel mom, you can do nothing wrong other than attacking people who are trying to kill you and you'll be left to slowly suffocate / freeze to death alone by monsterkind. I know the game tries to justify it with "Asriel's fear gets amplified into every monster", but I dunno, it just doesn't land as enough build-up to give us an ending that's literally a worse fate for Frisk than Genocide. So what, this fear they inherited from Asriel was so strong that it made Undyne forget she respected our choices and was better friends with us than she is in the normal Pacifist route? Made Papyrus, goddamn Papyrus the guy willing to stand infront of us with open arms in runs where we murder everyone, lose faith in us? Made Toriel willing to abandon a child? What about after some time passes and the fear subsides, does nobody ever realize that what they did was unnecessarily cruel? At least, enough for literally anyone to come back and help us? Or does that fear never run out? It just demolishes every monster's character for shock value and a "being a bully is bad m'kay" message.
@nhack5137
@nhack5137 3 ай бұрын
Lmao it's a good ending for the wrong route, I like the concept of being left to die but you didint kill anyone or go after all the monsters to bully, you just were acting in self defense and they ignore that characters personalities like papyrus and toriel + you literally are the reason they could leave but they still left you for punching some monsters that are always trying to kill u lmao
@MikeAngelo-c9k
@MikeAngelo-c9k 3 ай бұрын
Yea the ending bully number requirement should be higher, To me It seemed like It's not that They inherited fear from Asriel, It's more like the beating You give to Asriel actually affects all of Them at once since He has Their souls, Also You literally beat a god and They probably never acknowledged until then that a human child could easily kill Them all xD
@nobody7204
@nobody7204 4 ай бұрын
Papyrus in genocide after we murder his brother and everyone else in Snowdin: I still believe in you! Papyrus when you spare everyone even though you beat them up a little: It's probably for the best that we never meet again. *leaves you to suffocate to your death alone*
@MeowzerzOh6
@MeowzerzOh6 4 ай бұрын
Exactly it makes no sense 😭
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@MeowzerzOh6 Tbh different timelines.
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi 3 ай бұрын
He cant kill you on Geno and well, he know you want to murder him So he tries to convince you to stop In bully, he knows you are no menace Thats why, assholes ask mercy to the strong in near death moments, but are dicks when you show them kindness
@FunnyBonemanSpamGasterBlaster
@FunnyBonemanSpamGasterBlaster 3 ай бұрын
@@CarlosSilva-bh4bi I don't think beating up everyone can be count as showing mercy.
@FunnyBonemanSpamGasterBlaster
@FunnyBonemanSpamGasterBlaster 3 ай бұрын
@@MeowzerzOh6 Maybe Pap isn't afraid of us at first. but when Azzy absorb all their souls, fear from other monsters made him also afraid of us now.
@TheGrammarNazi123
@TheGrammarNazi123 4 ай бұрын
Two wrongs don't make a right. The monsters were in the wrong to let their savior, us, even if we weren't the nicest person, suffocate to death.
@Not-olyo
@Not-olyo 4 ай бұрын
monsters probably feared they would be beat up or killed if they let us come so they let us fuckin suffocate, they should of left atleast a spare spacecraft or smh so frisk could escape but good chances frisk dyin anyways
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 4 ай бұрын
weren't the nicest person is sugarcoating it a little, in their perspective, Frisk nearly killed most of them twice. One for the normal playthrough and the other by attacking Asriel since every Monster was watching the fight from within Asriel and could feel the pain Asriel felt. (This is explained within that unique Asriel phase it's self and some additional dialogue around the outpost.) It caused them to think irrationally sure, but how else could they really react to this? Would they not suspect that Frisk could do this again to them, over and over, and perhaps eventually genuinely kill?
@TheGrammarNazi123
@TheGrammarNazi123 4 ай бұрын
@@Turbulation1 They could have at least left us with a spare shuttle so we could fly to a different homeworld. This was undeserved regardless.
@noyes24361
@noyes24361 4 ай бұрын
​@@Turbulation1 Papyrus wants to give Frisk a second chance even when they are making a genocide So it doesn't really make sense for him to be ok with leaving them behind
@The-one-who-cookss
@The-one-who-cookss 4 ай бұрын
@@TheGrammarNazi123 In this route, you are essentially beating the monsters down - but just enough as to not kill them. Its borderline torture, but I do get your point Also the route does say that you have the blueprints and materials to build your own space shuttle, but its just that the core does not have the energy to help you leave the outpost
@Yuti640
@Yuti640 4 ай бұрын
There's such an impact to the total lack of anything at the beginning, even Asriel didn't want to be in the same outpost as you
@killercat241
@killercat241 4 ай бұрын
Any monsters who wanted to bring you with them had no choice It was just like 3 monsters vs every other monster who was afraid of you
@JonnySpec
@JonnySpec 4 ай бұрын
If you flirt with a lot of monsters and do the bully route, instead of letting you choose a villain name, Mettaton will call you "Heartbreaker" Sans will also mention how you flirted with monsters.
@元気な子供
@元気な子供 3 ай бұрын
Now i really find the geno more comfortable.even if we die at the end, we'll bring all those ungrateful creatures with us.
@7Marx7
@7Marx7 3 ай бұрын
Frisk: _Finds a way to defeat a God Monster in combat._ _Gets stranded on the Outpost with no hope for survival._ Frisk: "I've won... but at what cost?"
@Waymard
@Waymard 4 ай бұрын
... the ending hits hard ngl...
@Axel-Hacedetodo
@Axel-Hacedetodo 4 ай бұрын
-Didn’t killed anyone -Saved them from Asriel -Broke the barrier “He bullied us, so we will left him”
@vavalaz
@vavalaz 4 ай бұрын
More like sought out monsters, threathened to steal shopkeepers, almost killed the lost souls and almost killed everyone by almost killing asriel.
@vavalaz
@vavalaz 4 ай бұрын
Also the ending shows there was blueprints for a shuttle, but the core didnt have enough energy by the time we found it.
@desertsandfly2277
@desertsandfly2277 4 ай бұрын
@@vavalaz I get what you're saying. But it's still pretty wild that Frisk meets a more horrible demise here than in the genocide run. Not to mention that Papyrus is still willing to forgive you in the genocide run but here in bully pacifist, he just completely abandons you.
@vavalaz
@vavalaz 4 ай бұрын
@@desertsandfly2277 He said it was a hard choice, and even then different from geno, the bully route made the fear monsters had before of humans come back, primal fear took over. thats what happened.
@TheGrammarNazi123
@TheGrammarNazi123 4 ай бұрын
"Let's kill him" - Mr. Krabs
@crazymartin526
@crazymartin526 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Twinkly doesn't show up to tells us to be better makes this ending worse (in good way). Asriel in his emotionaless form does not want to talk to us just shows that even someone like Twinkly fears us. And the fact when you load Frisk catches their breath after choking to death due to lack of air makes the ending even worse. Frisk dies, finally being freed from the time coffin, only to be revived again and forced to live it again
@delt2601
@delt2601 4 ай бұрын
I agree, this ending really sucks, the monsters could just leave a capsule for a man to fly to his home planet, and then the ending didn't suck so much! To be honest, after this ending, I don't feel sorry for the genocide monsters inthis game anymore.
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@delt2601 When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@delt2601 You cant just blame monsters for this tho. Its becasue Asriels fear and trauma towards us internalies into every soul he absorbed which literally entire underground, making monsters act irrationally and abandoning you, even papyrus due his mind also got altered becasue of Asriel absoring his soul.
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Ай бұрын
Honestly this was in the wrong place. Would be a fire genocide ending since frisk and asriel die either way. Or a dark neutral where you actually kill lots of monsters.
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Ай бұрын
@@AntError_existtheory btw, and no reason their souls should all be affected even after the fight Plus leaving a space card would not require interaction past a phone call
@jackin_it
@jackin_it 4 ай бұрын
I get why people think this route is unfair to Frisk, and in a way it kind of is considering our control over them, but the reason everyone fled was probably because of their fear of humanity being brought back. A cruel, borderline psychotic human child beats everyone half to death. Even when they free monsterkind, who’s to say the rest of humanity won’t do the same, or worse?
@nhack5137
@nhack5137 3 ай бұрын
Maybe dont attack the child first idk
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Ай бұрын
Leaving a single spaceship for a human child which saved all of you makes complete sense Also the requirement is only 30 and asriel. That’s it
@turca7461
@turca7461 Ай бұрын
Honestly there are a few points that imply we are literally beating them senseless, which yeah honestly I can maybe sorta see why they left us behind, maybe if the final call was a little less mean spirited I would really really like this ending, but I digress.
@extrathicc4460
@extrathicc4460 3 ай бұрын
The ending really does not make any sense. Majority of the time, the main cast of characters treat you like they would in the true pacifist. It's such a 180 in the narrative.
@Omega_Sans12345
@Omega_Sans12345 4 ай бұрын
Frisk could've probably use River's person's car and take parts from his own spaceship and made a new one with the remaining energy of the core. Plus he has infinite amounts of tries to try different stuff so they could've probably escape. Where is Twinkly by the way? Did he just fly away?
@mrsphealtheseal
@mrsphealtheseal 4 ай бұрын
I think what people are forgetting is that you're just hunting down monsters to beat on them until they all run away. Like that's REALLY fucked. Not to mention the things you do outside of battle. If a human child is capable of this, imagine what a grown one would be. One child is strong enough to force every monster into servitude and kill them all if they so chose. Like there's totally a gray area here where you could argue leaving them how they did was too far, but what's the alternative?
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 4 ай бұрын
A good alternative could be giving them therapy or somebody to guide them on the right direction, like, papyrus is willing to give a genocidal frisk a second chance, why not now?
@mrsphealtheseal
@mrsphealtheseal 4 ай бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 I think beating up a God instilled the fear of humanity in him. Like apparently everyone's fear combined was so strong Frisk damaged God Asriel at LV 1 and was capable of killing him. Even UNDYNE is terrified of them. This wasn't a malicious choice, but rather out of pure fear
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@kharitonov4088
@kharitonov4088 3 ай бұрын
there's more ethical ways to get rid of someone rather than straight up killing them
@MarioMoss69
@MarioMoss69 3 ай бұрын
​@@AntError_existwhere does it say this exactly?
@anotherwilliam9199
@anotherwilliam9199 4 ай бұрын
I really don't like this ending I don't get why everyone is praising it.. like I get the player and frisk in this case did a lot of bad things I mean beating everyone half to death.. however you have to remind yourself that every single battle was basically self-defense it's too excessive but it's still self-defense.. not only that but in the end they also freed monster kind.. like couldn't they just have left a single pod for them to escape? I get that they messed up but.. they left a child alone in the middle of space to suffocate without oxygen.. to meet a horrifyingly painful end.. no it is not fair at all nor is it justified nor believable.. like how can you want me to believe someone like papyrus would let you go through something like this? Even if we are a horrible person I still don't believe it.. after all even in a genocide route he still believes in us after we killed that many people.. I really just don't get it.. like I would have understood if they have left us alone with a pod or something.. but left to die like that? I don't believe it
@anotherwilliam9199
@anotherwilliam9199 4 ай бұрын
...also English is not my first language so forgive my grammar
@En-cw7cl
@En-cw7cl 4 ай бұрын
It stops being self defense the moment the kid starts going out of their way to grind and seek out monsters to beat to near death out of pure boredom
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@anotherwilliam9199 When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@Yukiharuwu
@Yukiharuwu 3 ай бұрын
It's praised because it's written well for a tragedy. Kinda like Genocide. None of it is good, but people do it and think it's well-written and paints you as the villain well. This portrays the selfishness of others pretty well, if you ask me.
@Yogapants_73
@Yogapants_73 3 ай бұрын
you know it's worse than that, because when frisk dies of the core failing they're sent back to their save point, meaning they can't die and will be stuck in an infinite loop of dying over and over in solitude for the rest of time not even for years or eons, for the rest of time. even the heat death of the universe couldn't stop this because frisk is stuck in a loop of the same few years over and over, and will never go forward in time it has no end, there is no way in any amount of time no matter how many trillions or quadrillions of years it goes on, frisk will endure this over and over
@ItzSam._.324
@ItzSam._.324 4 ай бұрын
That is the darkest ending I've ever seen
@ІлляНеклонский
@ІлляНеклонский 3 ай бұрын
I like how people opinion on this ending is "omg it's so good" or "it's doesn't make sense at all". Moral dilemmas and freedom of choice is one of core thesis of OG undertale, and ps outertale is expended it a lot. In OG amd most of all other fangames there is "despite every choice if it's still pacifist is ultimately good" and "any murder route is bad no matter what". But in ps, we can see how our actions actually changes the story and the world around. It's shows that even if you isn't kill everyone, that it's mean you can't cause pain to others and be actual villain of the story, shows selfish and actually evil side of monsterkind, and much more. It's nothing strange that people discussing every ending and has a different thoughts about them, that actually good. UTY, TS! Swap, Deltatraweler and many more of modern fangames were mostly super polished in every aspect, and people have not much complains about them. Maybe PS outer isn't as polished in many aspects, this one is really good subject to discussing about
@derekspradling7452
@derekspradling7452 4 ай бұрын
Definitely the best added route. I’ve seen so far but totally fucked at the same time and also realistic. Put this in a modern day context and let’s face it; you save the remaining of rare species and if there ain’t enough shuttles to get you out alive with them, Then the savior becomes the sacrificial lamb. And that savior doesn’t even have to be a bully. They could just be somewhat dislikable and they’re cooked.
@hirohiro5034
@hirohiro5034 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, that's why you don't trust anyone
@hirohiro5034
@hirohiro5034 4 ай бұрын
This goes for everything in life really, if you put yourself in a vulnerable position in front of others, they will throw you under the bus without a second thought if it benefits them
@derekspradling7452
@derekspradling7452 4 ай бұрын
Harsh unavoidable, truths of life.
@FireyDeath4
@FireyDeath4 3 ай бұрын
This comment section is wild lol Honestly the only thing I think is really wrong with this route is how inconsistent it is. Like there are some strange and neglected parts that need changing and refining. A few extra branching endings would be cool, too
@elliethejellie
@elliethejellie 3 ай бұрын
Theres aborted bully, and warrior.
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Ай бұрын
Nah. They’re wrong for that Leaving a shuttle is common decency even if you fear the human. It’s better to make the requirements every monster at that point
@noonecares3368
@noonecares3368 4 ай бұрын
It is funny how in the big build up to the final fight they were all their to show their support of what frisk did then abandon him to a slow horrible death once its all said and done. Forgive me if i am wrong but didn't the humans destroy monsters due to fear? if so its very ironic that frisk would suffer a fate due to fear as well if that's the case. I love this ending. its flawed and feels forced but its still fun.
@Teethingas
@Teethingas 4 ай бұрын
Frisk:im hurt yall but no kill All the monster: "Osjxodjjdks GET OUT AND LEAVE US ALONE" Maybe we traumatized the monster race kind to much.But yeah we don't want to see your friend or family ger hurt
@kilixgamer9914
@kilixgamer9914 4 ай бұрын
This is probably one of the best endings (not meaning is a good ending for frisk) i had seen because even if it's sad is really interesting how ironically this is a worse ending than genocide because at least there SPOILER ALERT: you die from a explosion, instant, you dont realize and frisk probably can still reset afterwards, and dark neutral ending, frisk escape without actual consequences rather than knowing he has been controlled all this time, dying in isolation and for lack of air must've had been horrible, knowing you tried everything and nothing can be done anyways, and the worst of all it was just a child that even saved the monster even tho he was cruel he break the barrier and defeat asriel to save them and even then they abandon you, after creating a lot of friendship and somewhat a family, i wonder what was in the mind of alphys, toriel, asgore and sans like they didn't even talk to you in the end and "tried" to protect you, save you just to abandon you in the end, they could've had done something, teach frisk to survive, maybe teach him how to put energy on the core, at least take him or let him leave that place or put him somewhere he can live and then left, but nothing, the word monsters really apply here, i honestly don't believe frisk deserve this, just being a child... Being scare in a unknown place and not being done by his own hand but the player, but even after all that i did like how this end even tho it was a "pacifists" ending it finish very bad anyways
@zeli_ii
@zeli_ii 4 ай бұрын
they
@zeli_ii
@zeli_ii 4 ай бұрын
frisk is they/them not he/him
@kilixgamer9914
@kilixgamer9914 4 ай бұрын
@@zeli_ii alright my mistake
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@zeli_ii Not Canon. Toby never confirmed Frisk's gender, therefore makes "frisk is non-binary/genderless" another headcanon which has no canon evidence.
@zeli_ii
@zeli_ii 4 ай бұрын
@@AntError_exist was i talking about gender
@dodo3095
@dodo3095 3 ай бұрын
This hits way harder than any geno route for any UT fangame honestly. A real life equivalent to this, just one day getting left being is terrifying.
@pesyton-unsane_one
@pesyton-unsane_one 3 ай бұрын
it's crazy aborted genocide was a happier ending for frisk than this. THEY REALLY GOT THE AFTON TREATMENT IN THE BULLY ROUTE (eternal suffering)
@AxenNight
@AxenNight 4 ай бұрын
This is darker then genocide some how
@egor_2222
@egor_2222 4 ай бұрын
странно, когда я бил всех и буллил, не убивая никого, Андайн сказала что уважает стиль битвы и почти сразу стала другом, даже убегать не пришлось. похоже она тут злая, потому что монстренка кинули.
@AbsolutelyAri1
@AbsolutelyAri1 3 ай бұрын
NOOO IT MADE ME SAD HOW HE BACKED UP FROM US WHEN WE TRIED TO HUG HIM :(((
@Omega_Sans12345
@Omega_Sans12345 4 ай бұрын
I need help with this Route because I cannot find where Undyne is since I abandoned her without helping her. Tell me where can I find her please?
@Underplaytale
@Underplaytale 4 ай бұрын
if she's not in her house then I think it's a fail
@Oktav99a
@Oktav99a 4 ай бұрын
Use the debug menu to tp yourself inside the kitchen to start the undyne date, then you should be able to do archive and asriel as normal
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 4 ай бұрын
Question, does this route take into account jerky ACTions like Threatening froggit to spare him or insulting papyrus or letting yourself get hit by undyne's first attack or etc.?
@barneythemusicmaker1098
@barneythemusicmaker1098 4 ай бұрын
I dont think so. All you need to do is bully-spare at least 30 monsters, don't kill anyone, and attack all of the lost souls in the end
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@barneythemusicmaker1098 The thing is that just walking foward and spare-bullying them alone doesn't get you that end, you really NEED to be an asshole, insult people, abandon Monster Kid when Undyne chases you and FR chase monsters to almost kill them (basically genocide without actually killing) You even get the message for encounters "But everyone ran..."
@teardropsadventure19
@teardropsadventure19 Ай бұрын
Just realised the only reason the ending is the way it is is because of Asriel. His thoughts affected the other monsters.
@Jaynosurname
@Jaynosurname 4 ай бұрын
This feels needlessly cruel for a pacifist ending ngl. Maybe I’m just missing context since I haven’t watched the entire playthrough, but I don’t think Frisk being an asshole justifies everyone leaving them to suffocate to death. If this was Aborted Geno, or a Geno ending I’d understand. But it’s not. I do like that the game acknowledges how you spared enemies, but I don’t think it should be so drastic where everyone hates you so much that they’ll just leave you behind to die alone. Maybe simple dialogue changes could’ve sufficed instead of an entirely different ending.
@IHateThatPotato
@IHateThatPotato 4 ай бұрын
Double check the Asriel dialogue after you beat him, he says that since he felt afraid while in his god form, the monsters really realized what you could do. They probably weren’t planning that beforehand. “ Ever since you started attacking me back there, it’s like… “ “ They understand the kind of person you are now. “ “ You never killed anyone, but deep down… “ “ The thought of you bringing them to the brink of death.. “ “ Over, and Over, and Over… “ “…They’re terrified of you, frisk. “ I think this means that when you attacked Asriel, he truly felt fear, he realized what type of person you were and what you could do, and when he realized that, the souls inside of him did as well. Even Undyne was afraid.
@Jaynosurname
@Jaynosurname 4 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@IHateThatPotatoInteresting, I’ll play the route myself to see if there’s any more context.
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 4 ай бұрын
@@Jaynosurname There's also various bits of dialogue from monsters like Gerson, Burgie, Toriel, and others you can find around the outpost that mention how they became scared of you when you started attacking Asriel.
@kinfumetsuokami8084
@kinfumetsuokami8084 4 ай бұрын
The thing is that just walking foward and spare-bullying them alone doesn't get you that end, you really NEED to be an asshole, insult people, abandon Monster Kid when Undyne chases you and FR chase monsters to almost kill them (basically genocide without actually killing) You even get the message for encounters "But everyone ran..."
@Jaynosurname
@Jaynosurname 4 ай бұрын
@@kinfumetsuokami8084Yeah, I definitely misunderstood what this route was. Looks like I have something to try out after I finish my Geno run.
@PotatioBaconio
@PotatioBaconio 3 ай бұрын
As someone who always wanted a sort of violent pacifist route in these fan games this is not the way to execute it imo.
@TvAccxd
@TvAccxd 4 ай бұрын
People defending this route is honestly disappointing, it makes no sense that they would let the one that saved them die, no one is even considering that every last one of the monsters that frisk hurt attacked them first, so it was self defense, being realistic you can't get away from a fight by acting, the most realistic and good act frisk can do is fight back and then let them off, but no monster is even able to consider it? That besides the point that they literally hung out with Frisk and know they are not a threat, and the point that they are 100% going to face more humans in the future, so they short of just murdered their savior for defending theirselves. Makes them deserve the genocide route.
@edencaraballo1858
@edencaraballo1858 4 ай бұрын
It’s not self defense if you’re making the first move
@barneythemusicmaker1098
@barneythemusicmaker1098 4 ай бұрын
@@edencaraballo1858 But the monsters encountering you is sort of the first move. Whenever a monsters name is not blue or yellow, a monster wants to fight and KILL you (in most cases). This means that when u encounter a monster, frisk can do literally nothing and the monster will attack anyway. This is further shown in genocide. When you encounter monsters in geno, their names are blue from turn 1. they dont want to fight you, in fact they want you to let them go. In geno, frisk dictates the battle, but that isnt the same in bully the monsters in bully want to kill you. if we're going by an in universe pov, frisk has no obligation to not fight at all. If you fell underground and fought monsters, wouldnt you defend yourself? Same case in the Asriel battle. He threatens to take over the timeline, erase your memories, and "keep playing" over and over again. Thats him saying he'll kill frisk over and over, since that happens in the neutral twinkly battle. Frisk had the right to fight back there too The monsters in this route always attack first. And, to even achieve the full pacifist version as shown in the vid, u have to hang out and prove yourself a nice person. Undyne even respected me in my run. Why couldnt her royal guard captain influence convince the monsters to give Frisk their own pod? And Undyne's dialogue in the phone call is weird. It's like she forgot about you being a friend. Weird ending
@akfbqoabepajsoa
@akfbqoabepajsoa 4 ай бұрын
Hunting them down is not self defense Abodoning Monster Kid is not self defense
@TvAccxd
@TvAccxd 4 ай бұрын
@@akfbqoabepajsoa When you encounter a monster it pretty much means they are the ones hunting you down🤷‍♂️ abandoning monster kid is not a good act but you don't necessarily have to act like a hero, don't act as if you wouldn't run off in that situation.
@akfbqoabepajsoa
@akfbqoabepajsoa 4 ай бұрын
@@TvAccxd it may not apply in thus route or maybe it does but The ost that plays when there are 5 enemies left is called "Apphroaching the Enemy" Rather than "Enemy Apphroaching" It would make sense that just like in chaotic frisk is hubting monsters down(if the fact you need to walk alot more for each encounter didnt make it clear that the monsters arent really looking ti fight as much)
@KCT_4
@KCT_4 4 ай бұрын
Вот конечно интересная и спорная концовка этой замечательной игры. Я бы не назвал еë справедливой по отношению к Фриску, ведь Фриск, не смотря ни на что, не убил ни одного монстра и смог спасти их из заточения под куполом. Да, Фриск их бил в отчет, но ведь и монстры тоже атаковали без стеснения. Выходит, что монстрам можно избивать Фриска до посинения, а Фриску постукать по ним нельзя за их плохие манеры. И по итогу, они просто киданули Фриска и спешно свалили, даже не оставив ему отдельный корабль, чтобы Фриск улетел себе домой и все (Если конечно он знает, куда лететь🤔). Фриск напрямую повлиял на их спасение, не смотря на несколько агрессивный метод примирения, а они по итогу плюнули ему в лицо и улетели. Но с другой стороны, сама концовка весьма примечательная и гнетущая. Такой я раньше нигде не видел. Вообщем, смешанные впечатления, но спасибо за прохождение! На телефоне с моими кривыми руками задолбаешься проходить.
@General-Kinder671
@General-Kinder671 3 ай бұрын
На телефоне невозможно пройти. Это мой вывод (по крайней мере геноцид) встроенное управление кал полный.
@charlioanimations
@charlioanimations 4 ай бұрын
That ending is fucked up, they have no right to leave a child that may i remind you SAVED THEM AND DIDN'T KILL ANYONE. They should have at least leave a shuttle for Frisk. This is the worst ending of the game, and no i don't mean it in a good way, this ending should not have existed.j
@charlioanimations
@charlioanimations 4 ай бұрын
h
@barneythemusicmaker1098
@barneythemusicmaker1098 4 ай бұрын
Fr. I see what they were going for. Bullying people will leave you alone in the dark nothingness. But it didnt have to involve the characters betraying their characterization in the run Papyrus forgives you even if you do worse. And undyne respects your fighting spirit. Half of toriels character is trying so hard to protect a human child, because theyre a child lmao. Shes literally the former queen. Wouldn't she do anything in her authority and actual power to help frisk? Sure, they punched a god a few times, but that was literally in order to save them Everyone leaving you to die is out of their normal character. Its like they got mind controlled by the fear I think a better execution of this would be if the monsters still feared you, but still liked you. So a monster wide vote is made or something to give you a shuttle, but to leave without them and dont give location. Frisk can then die by accident, slowly, in their search for a homeworld. The game can still give the player the sense that cruelty is bad and leaves you alone, all while not character assassinating everyone
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@charlioanimations When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
@@barneythemusicmaker1098 The thing is that just walking foward and spare-bullying them alone doesn't get you that end, you really NEED to be an asshole, insult people, abandon Monster Kid when Undyne chases you and FR chase monsters to almost kill them (basically genocide without actually killing) You even get the message for encounters "But everyone ran..."
@paradoxicaloutcome1007
@paradoxicaloutcome1007 3 ай бұрын
@@AntError_exist Yeah, nobody cares about the weird convoluted justification given. It makes no sense no matter which way you slice it. So what, this supernatural fear was so strong that it made Undyne forget she respected our choices and was better friends with us than she is in the normal Pacifist route? Made Papyrus, goddamn Papyrus the guy willing to stand infront of us with open arms in runs where we murder everyone, lose faith in us? Made Toriel willing to abandon a child? What about after some time passes and the fear subsides, does nobody ever realize that what they did was unnecessarily cruel? Or does that fear never run out? What about Asriel? He stays behind in the outpost normally, did he go with the monsters in this route, despite not wanting any of them to see him? It doesn't make sense and it's very difficult to make it make sense.
@tupatacoja915
@tupatacoja915 4 ай бұрын
ok i think this ending is bad, i cant understand why the monsters support you only for leaving you die, doesnt make sense, feels like a meme ending (if this ending is only a joke is ok i think)
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@Certified_baller1
@Certified_baller1 4 ай бұрын
OMG DOOOOOOOOOOOOGEEEE
@ilfrisk3300
@ilfrisk3300 4 ай бұрын
Кстати, если лодочник это робот, то почему фриск не может просто его убрать и на этом же корабле куда нибудь уехать?
@Not-olyo
@Not-olyo 4 ай бұрын
im pretty sure that ship dosent have oxygen considering the open doors, frisk could try setting up a “oxygen” system though so they could escape but theres a good chance they are absolutely screwed either way
@ilfrisk3300
@ilfrisk3300 4 ай бұрын
@@Not-olyo but this anyway best way for him, frisk could be do something with it better, than fix his old ship
@Not-olyo
@Not-olyo 4 ай бұрын
@@ilfrisk3300in the bully route ending the ship was taken from you so thats not a option
@TadrianWilbourn
@TadrianWilbourn 4 ай бұрын
@@Not-olyothey still have their old one, they could’ve taken parts from it
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, I would stright make the worst ending posible to everyone else and leave after this
@spicymanx
@spicymanx 3 ай бұрын
You just need to beat some sense into them, you know...
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf 4 ай бұрын
this is extremely tragic 4:08:10
@SuperSapphireStudios
@SuperSapphireStudios 22 күн бұрын
4:01:35 attack is timed with the music lol
@tinytiger678
@tinytiger678 4 ай бұрын
Твою мать! Фриск не заслуживает такой участи!!! Почему Твинкли не помог ей перезапустить ядро? Неужели даже в безэмоциональной форме он так боится … Это кошмар…просто кошмар Сколько Фриск провела лет на заброшенном Аутпосте? Чем питалась и где жила? Интересно послушать идеи
@m4rzb4rz-qq3yq
@m4rzb4rz-qq3yq Ай бұрын
People who say this ending as inconsistent because you're on better terms with monsters when you kill some and spare others have no sense of emotional depth
@delt2601
@delt2601 4 ай бұрын
This fan game is just awesome!⭐🌟💫☄️ But the ending of this route is simply shameful and unfair, it is many times worse than the ending of the genocide or the dark neutral. We just attacked the monsters that they attacked us first. We saved the monsters and then they throw us for beating them up, even though we didn't kill anyone and saved their lives. Yeah, any most selfish being in the creature can do something like this. The moral of this ending is more gray than ever seen. I wonder if you hate this ending too?
@AntError_exist
@AntError_exist 4 ай бұрын
Nah, its becasue Asriel, why people keep forgetting this small detail? When you fight Asriel and The Lost Souls in a violent way rather than by acting it out as in other pacifists, because of the way monsters experience the fight while absorbed as well as because Asriel's fear of you, basically all of this trauma becomes internalised into every soul he absorbed and heightened to extremely high proportions. As a result the monsters act irationally towards you after they are released. Its not becasue monsters, its becasue asriel's unnatural fear and trauma towards frisk got passed down to every monster's soul and mind, therefore making them act irrationaly against ya and abandoning you.
@delt2601
@delt2601 3 ай бұрын
@@AntError_exist Well, now I understand why monsters do that.
@elliethejellie
@elliethejellie 3 ай бұрын
"... even if you COULD beat me" "In doing so, you'd kill your friends too." "Is that what you want? To be ALONE?" I say its justified.
@elliethejellie
@elliethejellie 3 ай бұрын
Do aborted bully. Basically bully route except you don't fight the lost souls. This results in an ending with dialogue changes from regular pacifist, but not everyone abandoning you. This is also where they say stuff like "Oh you beat us up, but you also saved us"
@delt2601
@delt2601 3 ай бұрын
I should have despised that ending for nothing. But it's good that it can be avoided. Fortunately, I was wrong
@CatSlapps
@CatSlapps 4 ай бұрын
I made a story based on this You are now alone Everything is so quiet Nothing but loud sounds of the core Rumbling,shaking Was this fate You sat down on a bench Rethink everything that happened You kept telling yourself That it was a prank And that they are coming back for you Or it a dream You pinched your self so many thing Tell yourself to wake up Nothing… You felt a solid burst of anger Why oh why did they left their savor You got up Punching everything you saw You wish that you killed them You wish you took the soul You wish you took the ship and left them After they we’re sealed up for a reason But you began to cry Tears falls on your phone that you were given You know it your fault If you just.. didn’t harm them You never talk to them You never .. You gave up As the core gave it final push The air slowly drifted away You begin to choke You remember your adventures You remember your hell As nothing happened As the space continues to spin You met your end …it done Your fate is up to someone now. A will added more for you know likes 🫱
@STRR._.BLAZER
@STRR._.BLAZER 3 ай бұрын
When I try to do this route, the names don't turn blue. Does anyone know why?
@sunflwr_bees
@sunflwr_bees 3 ай бұрын
What do you do in battle? You just need to hit monsters until their names are blue. If they aren't turning blue, then it's a bug I think. You can turn developer mode (press settings in the menu, then press alt+left (left 2 times) and from there weaken them.
@STRR._.BLAZER
@STRR._.BLAZER 3 ай бұрын
@sunflwr_bees okay thanks
@Ivosaintglory
@Ivosaintglory 4 ай бұрын
Я концовки немного не понял...
@pokemoncat
@pokemoncat 4 ай бұрын
Так а сколько тут концовок путей и подпути
@Kerror11Zip
@Kerror11Zip 4 ай бұрын
Андерплей, привет! Ты, скорее всего меня не помнишь, но и это не суть важно, ну так вот, перейду к сути.. Куда ты вышел с сервера Underverse battle's? Просто интересно очень, у всех спрашивал и никто не знает.. Надеюсь на ответ
@Underplaytale
@Underplaytale 4 ай бұрын
никто и не интересовался лол я там не нужен меня ничего там не держит и когда я чистил сервера, конечно же я вышел
@Wod322
@Wod322 4 ай бұрын
Будет прохождение Vhs sans the hacker ending?
@Underplaytale
@Underplaytale 4 ай бұрын
он мне не нравиться
@Zanos960
@Zanos960 18 күн бұрын
This route just justified genocide route somehow (ik it's "chaotic route" but I don't care)
@yourtypicalutpersona
@yourtypicalutpersona 4 ай бұрын
Nice
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf
@INLIGHTOFHISTORTYANDOTHE-px7mf 4 ай бұрын
Hi
@ilfrisk3300
@ilfrisk3300 4 ай бұрын
Если честно, мне даже больно проходить на эту концовку
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@HorrortaleSans-pv5gs
@HorrortaleSans-pv5gs 4 ай бұрын
Погоди. Ты русский???
@therizzler699
@therizzler699 4 ай бұрын
rehehehhe
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Hey
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