I Learned How to Master My Music from 3 YouTuber Audio Engineers

[@Unders]

Video Links - Tools - Chapters Videos Referenced Sub Frequency Video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWS9kn-dmJuqirc WavMan Video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2abfYRsrpaVe7c Panoramic Mastering Video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIGzh5J6jMyGeMksi=hV9ll-hhddKiaPtw Streaky Mastering Video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIqpk5h6Zduel5Y Plugins Used Ozone 11 - bit.ly/Ozone11Deals IK Tape - bit.ly/IKTAPES Waves L2 - waves.alzt.net/6emdEE ProQ3 EQ - www.pluginboutique.com/meta_products/4957//#a_aid=583c0c4edc90d&a Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:19 WavMan Mastering Tutorial 22:20 Panoramic Mastering Tutorial 50:55 Streaky Mastering Tutorial 01:05:00 Outro 01:06:15 A/B Of Finished Masters

[@chrikiband]

Thank you for your time you have spent to create this very informative vid and for sharing it with us - today I have learned alot about mastering - Pre, plugins that could be used in order etc once again thank you 👍. I would go For Nic not sure between Streaky and Wana

[@Unders]

An thank you for taking a moment to share 🙏

[@audionerdlilcuz]

Nicholas is legit, he should not be mentioned with these two.

[@Unders]

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[@chriswhite7636]

The thing I really like about nick is he revisits techniques he’s previously done and tries to up his game, he’s constantly learning and experimenting and showing that to his audience. Really interesting channel. End of the day, nothing is gospel because all tracks need different treatment, techniques evolve and he at least acknowledges when he may have done something that may not have been the most optimal at that time. Good channel anyway

[@Unders]

@chriswhite7636 completely agree I may have cut it. But I talked about how I use soft clip earlier in the chain, and was sure I’d also seen Nic do that previously too. But with the video already being an hour plus I did end up cutting lots.

[@Studio22mix]

I watched a video of Colt Caperune yesterday and he said it took him 6 years before actually offering mastering to his clients. Mastering is a total different mindset than mixing and Colt let his clients blind listen to his masters and the one from his mastering engineer. When 90% of his clients picked him he decided to offer his mastering services to clients. I think he right with that approach, you need a great room and above average monitoring and a lot of practice to get good at it. If you want to learn mastering the right way then you need to put in a lot of hours to rightfully call yourself a mastering engineer. Nicolas is a great mastering engineer imo and he does a lot of KZbin video’s and I think he’s definitely legit, he always says that if he’s wrong about something to let him know and he will set it right. I don’t master anything myself but I like both mentioned engineers a lot and love seeing their approach and mindset.

[@Unders]

I don’t know if you watched the video, but I specifically said I don’t consider myself a mastering engineer. But I have a fair amount of experience.

[@Studio22mix]

@@Unders I was not talking about you but was talking in general. I liked that you said that you don’t consider yourself a mastering engineer. I just wanted to point out that mastering is not something that is done easily that’s all.

[@Unders]

@@Studio22mix Fair and I agree, Wasn't sure if you skipped using the chapters (many do) This is why its not something i offer, I do it for friends who like my approach and I master my own work an releases, an it stops there really. Going back to my older video i explained the reason i took this approach was that my engineer i used for years retired. An basically i couldn't find anyone else who fit the affordability and wasn't shit. Im blessed to be friends with an have been taught by Mike Cave who has more plats than i can recall, Lewis Capaldi being a recent one i remember. But i can't justify his prices 😆 Which i feel is also MANY MANY of us who create. Hence videos like this I felt are both fun for us and hopefully helpful too.

[@Studio22mix]

@@Unders I really liked the video, maybe only the ‘exposed’ title was more of a click bait but that’s KZbin these days I guess. I just do mixing as an out of proportion grown hobby because I love doing it. Many people underestimate both mixing and mastering. I especially don’t master my own mixes because of song fatigue which kicks in much faster than most people think. I like to mix fast, throw them on my phone and listen back as a listener not as an engineer then if really necessary I fix some things. A great mix doesn’t have to be a perfect balanced or perfect sounding mix in my opinion. For me most important is the way it makes me feel about a song or album. There are so many different ways and techniques available and so much to learn, it’s a fun ride. It took me some time to get my mixes translate well on different systems but now that they do I enjoy it even more. Great video, it got me subscribed 👍🏼

[@Unders]

it is indeed the way of youtube. I hate it, an annoying this is the best perfoming video in a couple months. I miss just being able to make a good helpful video and it being shown to subscribers 🤷‍♂️ song fatigue is absolutely a thing, I give my tracks weeks maybe months before i come back round to them. To hopefully achieve objectivity. its also a reason why i adopt a print to audio kind of workflow that means forward is the only option without extreme hassle.

[@tomverswyvel6370]

For low slope , lin phase eq . And the ssl comp , use one with a sc filter . So it keeps your low end alone . That's what works for me .

[@Unders]

Sure, i said in another comment id usually use ProQ natural phase. But the point was to follow like i was less experienced. Hence i explained why it might be an issue. But did it anyway. Sure i could have dived deeper, but the video is insanely long already 😆

[@Rhuggins]

I love your attitude. I have been in this field for several years but find this really entertaining- subbed!

[@Unders]

Thanks appreciated. What do you primarily work on?

[@Stu.6]

Definate phase issue with imager And possibly aliasing I’d never use spreader in a master

[@Unders]

Are you so immature and IK multimedia ONE, both very good if you need to add a little bit at the Mastering stage and do a very good job at avoiding phasing. You can test this with a sum to mono in utility afterwards but for sure if the track doesn’t benefit from it, don’t do it.

[@jbva804]

All are quality but Nic's is something special!

[@Unders]

I agree. He’s a good teacher on top.

[@YoungLitHippy]

I think the low end sounds more solid on streakys version. Nic’s is good too but sounds a tad thinner.

[@YoungLitHippy]

But listening more Streakys slightly distorts during certain parts. I think somewhere between Nic’s more dynamic and Streakys more compressed is perfect for your song.

[@Unders]

I can agree with that I feel it’s the use of the multiband compression option which is something I would often reach for but wasn’t present in the other tutorials.

[@Unders]

@YoungLitHippy the thing with the distortion is having to blindly copy limiter soft clipping settings and then push to a certain level. Whereas with Nick we correctly gain staged at every portion so that would not be an issue.

[@ntsakomaluleke6333]

Listening to these masters i would say streaky's low end is much more tighter, consistant and more balanced overall as well.

[@Unders]

Giving the use of multiband compression certainly allowed for that. his is also deceptively loud though as it basically said make it -8RMS, However if it does the job then winner.

[@valgimorais602]

nic is the winner all around density flavour presence and smooth vocal in control wavman 2 place vocal to upfront it sounds clipped streaky 3place to much compression thanks for the video

[@Unders]

Thanks for watching, hope it was useful as well

[@repsossa]

Friend Question: I want to give it that touch that only analogue gives and send my finalized digital mix from the daw to one of these devices: (Compressor/Limiter or Tube Preamp, both 2 channels) and return it to the daw: What do you recommend me? 1. Send my mix to an analog limiter or 2: Send it to a tube preamp and finish limiting it digitally. I have little budget and space to buy just 1 piece of equipment; I already have a harmonic exciter. Thank you for your answer.

[@Unders]

There’s whole units dedicated to this like elektron analog heat - thmn.to/thoprod/567104?offid=1&affid=1190 If you really wanted to being an analog chain for mastering though I’d look at tubetec multiband that’s a very useful unit. And one my old engineer swore by.

[@MrRafaelEPS]

@@Unders Thanks; wow, this elektron opened my mind

[@Unders]

@@MrRafaelEPS its a cool box, tried out all the elktron gear at Superbooth in 2021. And i like theri gear. Just not sure id actually use it enough to justify.

[@bangubw736]

If it sounds right to you then its what it is.

[@Unders]

Actually when it comes to mastering I completely disagree with that statement. This is literally the point of trying to make sure it translates correctly to as many systems as possible.

[@cholkymilkmirage4984]

why do you print tracks vs just bouncing them? Also how did you single solo in logic?

[@Unders]

I personally wouldn’t and don’t I bounce everything and use the colour tax system in Mac to organise. Nick explains in his video he uses it for an organisational reason and it keeps everything contained in one session. I don’t know for other DAW but I covered many years ago the different ways of bouncing in logic and how they all also sound different which would be a concern to me.

[@Unders]

Also, make more music "Sadboy" is great.

[@UncleBenjs]

I will say, the only reason you need at least a db before you can register is due to your monitoring. Go and demo some mastering grade monitors, something like the PDP MUM 8's or ATC SCM series or something, and you will hear 0.3db boosts. I don't believe the OP can hear that .3 db boost in his headphones tho, he is capping

[@Unders]

that the human ear cannot discern amplitude shift below 0.3dB an in that example, I could hear no discernible benefit. I like that you mentioned the MUM monitors I was there at the launch. Got to try some of my mixes on them even. Im way too out the loop to know WTF you mean by capping.

[@kerimallami]

To man, there’s a sudden jump at 59.10, why was that cut out?😄 Great video btw.!!

[@Unders]

Because editing the length of a short film is hard.

[@KngCamel]

Super useful. Thankyou

[@Unders]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@UncleBenjs]

New sub. Enjoying the content, cheers!

[@Unders]

You make exactly the kind of boom bap beats i love (or did the soundcloud i found is ancient.)

[@UncleBenjs]

@@Unders Haha thanks. I've been making a bunch of new stuff. One day I'll upload 😆

[@Unders]

@1337murk 👍 look forward.

[@subramaniamchandrasekar1397]

All of them should have told crap in = crap out, no matter how much best mixing/mastering happens. Many songs also sound good from production phase.

[@Unders]

i'm guessing you didn't watch much because thats literally in the first one.

[@bachelorgamer8001]

Wav mana was the best nic high to dull for me

[@Unders]

Fair enough. Making use of midnight EQ even though it wasn’t expressly taught was very useful

[@UncleBenjs]

0:59 that hpf is going to lose you a few db of headroom due to the phase shift.

[@UncleBenjs]

Ah not to worry, you go into that later into the vid haha

[@wenglish1968]

@@UncleBenjs Well, obviously if people were using M.A.T. there would be Zero chance of any errors.

[@UncleBenjs]

@@wenglish1968 looool

[@Unders]

@@wenglish1968 ProQ natural phase is where i tend to go.

[@wenglish1968]

@@Unders Of course. It's perfectly great software!

[@kojoefante]

Well it’s not the same song or beats for starters .. Also you do everything like a robot and no feeling or emotions . i do all that and I’m not even a professional and I know all that tweaking is subjective to the track or song you’re listening to .. Sometimes you feel it, sometimes you listen and you only add and subtract numbers .

[@Unders]

K 👋

[@chrikiband]

@kojoefante - I usually don't leave comment replying to a comment but on this occasion I could not stop myself.The guy spent hours and hours to create this video to share it with us - which I found very informative, He was very articulated, and that's why I watched the full video and I will probably come back again to watch it again. show some respect no need mentioning his personal feeling or emotions. He asked one simple question to choose the best or put in order 1,2,3. it sounds you did watch the full video.✌

[@charliegrey2767]

Streaky decided to test himself by only using ozone suite…so it’s slightly unfair to give him any negativity on this

[@Unders]

At no point did he say he was testing himself by only using Ozone. And from what I saw it was his 3rd one.

[@martijnbeier3150]

pretty horrible vocals on the reference

[@Unders]

lol good luck to you.