Understanding Copyright Law and Exclusive Rights

[@Bombright]

when I made that statement I knew it would be hard to prove but the point I am trying to make is that technology is still improving at an extremely fast rate.

[@richardclarke1823]

I agree with most of you guys,I just like writing songs,but it seems where ever you find someone creating something theres someone with a pen and paper who creates nothing trying and succeeding to take all thats good about away. I hope God sees this among other things

[@JSGuitar80]

She always sounds like she's contemptuous of the music industry at large. Good stuff.

[@grammaticus00]

Yet, one may not know whether the pace of this progress wouldn't be even faster without © and patents as we know them today. Another issue is that, speaking about the technological progress conceptually we tend to personify technology, as if it was an independent being, which may also render the whole picture inaccurate. Perhaps it would be more accurate to argue that our living standards are improving or we are making an increasing use of technological advances etc.

[@grammaticus00]

I'd respectfully consider it at least disputable to hold, as U do, that "technology is improving at a faster rate than in the classical era". How have U arrived at such a conclusion? Is your calculation based on per capita rate or some other system. Then, also, what's the common denominator on which U base your comparison of the pace of progress. And how do U compare technologies of the then & now.

[@yaseedeechannel]

and if i record a cover of a famous and pubblished song. & i pubblish my version of the song online for example on youtube do i infringe someones Right....Thanks

[@MrKevin1a]

How about the incentive of the betterment of humanity? Peter Kropotkin says that once people have their basic needs taken care of, they are naturally industrius and creative and will expend their effort to better humanity. Intelectual property and copyright is a detriment to development and progress because it prevents people from building on the success of others. "Ideas are not a commodity, knowledge is not a product."

[@grammaticus00]

Yes, trying to change all that. So my point is that around the year 1 AD the world population was some ~ 200,000 K to contribute to technological progress, now it is estimated at some 6,700,000 K. Do U believe we R also advancing technologically 34 x as fast? It puzzles me.

[@Bombright]

Take a look at even more recent history, technology is improving at a faster rate than in the classical era, and we have copyright. BTW how did you get the c inside the circle symbol?

[@grammaticus00]

According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Census Bureau, the total population of the World, projected to 05/31/09 at 17:13 GMT (EST+5) is 6,783,496,710 people :)

[@MrKevin1a]

I do not deny that the American system for copyright protections has worked in the past and it is likely that it will continue to work if given the opportunity. The question, at least for me lies in whether or not it works the best. Is there an option that would work better and stimulate more innovation? Some of us think so; others disagree. Very rarely is something so black and white that one governmental policy will work 100% while the other fails 100%.

[@grammaticus00]

I appreciate your point of view, & deem it quite accurate.

[@ashyjedi]

I don't think that would really be considered infringement because you're not making money off of other artists works... you're also not hurting the artist or publisher of said works..

[@Bombright]

Are you trying to say that around 1 A.D there were only 200,000 people on the planet? or 200,000,000?

[@grammaticus00]

200,000 K[ilo] = 200,000,000. The K comes from the Greek χίλιοι ("khilioi"), meaning thousand.

[@MrKevin1a]

Additionally, is it right for us to force our ideas of copyright on other countries like we allegedly did with Sweden (correct me if I got the country wrong, I am referring to the US gov throwing it's weight around to get the pirate bay shut down. WOW! This is one of the only truly rational conversations I have had on KZbin. If anyone wants to discuss this further, feel free to contact me on AIM. My username is the same as on KZbin.

[@EHCBunny4real]

Often one creation is based on another creation. Example. The basic cake wasn't flavored. Supposed the original cake bake had a copywrite on cake. Where would cake baking be now. stuck to an unflavored mass called cake.

[@tricatrack]

I AGREE

[@grammaticus00]

By the way, God bless Wikipadia, it is nothing like © !

[@yaseedeechannel]

@tmslibrarian thanks for the reply.

[@MrKevin1a]

I still maintain that people are not necissarily greedy and selfish by nature. It is the circumstances of their lives and their existance within social constructs that renders them so. I do however respect your position and understand why you might hold it. Especially in the US, where the modern Judeo-Christian worldview reigns, human nature is portrayed in a matter very similar to how Thomas Hobbs portrayed it. I respectfully disagree, and would ask you to consider it from my point of view.

[@Bombright]

While I see your point as well (and appreciate the calm matter in which you presented it), but I do not think that copyright keeps from expanding and building on knowledge, in fact it promotes new ideas. the more people see profit in creating things, then more things will be created, not out of greed for money, but the need for a sustaining income. if what you say is true then we would see no growth of ideas in america where copyright is enforced, but we have, so I believe you are wrong.

[@PeaceRequiresAnarchy]

Copyright law is unjust. So-called "intellectual property" is not genuine property. Read Stephan Kinsella's "Against Intellectual Property."

[@grammaticus00]

Mind you I shall freely disseminate someone's intellectual property how to copy © (without patents&©) :) - go to the bottom of this page where U C © 2009 KZbin & just select the © sign & copy it, then paste in your message or comment. An alternative way is to press & hold the left ALT key & use your numeric keypad to press 0169) then release the ALT. It's that easy.

[@onelineproof]

There are many different ways to create incentive to create something. Copyright is one of those ways that forces you to give up freedom of speech and privacy. Fight copyright!!!

[@tmslibrarian]

@yaseedeechannel YES

[@grammaticus00]

This estimate I have found on wikipedia. Term: World population.

[@grammaticus00]

This meddling in the Swedish Pirate Bay trial has shown that vested interests may be at risk.

[@paulpascalau206]

Okay, let's stretch it then. Do you think working shouldn't require an economic incentive too? Because that's the foundation of an invention - hard work. Upon the obvious fact that inventors need to eat too, they devote years and years to creating something they believe is useful. If it isn't, they take the fall on their own. If it is, it is only fair they should be rewarded. You are essentially trying to justify theft.

[@grammaticus00]

These R just ifs. Take a look at history. The classical culture didn't use ©, but still stuff was invented. The widely accepted practice of the day was to adopt & work on existing ideas. I'd also examine your notion of so called "new ideas", if U C what I mean. Another issue concerns the human motivation to do things for profit. It's oversimplification and I'd refer U to psychological works (Maslow) which contradict the claim about humans being entirely income-driven species.

[@Bombright]

do you really have nothing better to do than this?

[@Bombright]

that is 100% not true. our naturual inclination as humans is and will always be to improve our own lot in life. copyright does not necessarily keep someone from building on others Ideas, it keeps them from distributing it for themselve while the original inventor get zip.

[@MAREKISBACKAGAIN]

who invented copper wire ???? 2 jews fighting over a penny........... jews = money hungry..