Understanding Glute Power with Tim Woo

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@RayeAckerman
@RayeAckerman 3 ай бұрын
Guy is character and I enjoyed how he presented his thoughts... perhaps just me but we listen to enough boring podcasts and cookie cut interviews. This was a refreshing change!
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Ayyyy thank you I always promise to NOT be boring. Artist soul tryna be a doctor haha😂❤
@Edmond347
@Edmond347 3 ай бұрын
I think they call it "word salad." Can't imagine anyone would get anything of value from this guy. He charges $200/month for his "coaching." Jesus.
@MattiasThyr
@MattiasThyr 3 ай бұрын
You maybe not need more than a couple of months to get the benefits of his approach
@stevenwehling4453
@stevenwehling4453 3 ай бұрын
Ive actually purchased the program and did it for 3 weeks. One day all of a sudden i flaired up sciatica and its been over 2 years now struggling with these issues. I believe its from the band work (holds) for glutes. To be fair i never reached out to Dr Woo. I still do the activating exercises prior to my rides.
@joeackermanj
@joeackermanj 3 ай бұрын
I'll just add I've followed some of tim's programs and a lot of the lunch and learns he did back in the day on his instagram site and always learned quite a bit and found his work to be on point in getting rid of knee pain and feelings of being twisted on the bike d/t functional issues. He has great assessments to really give insight into where you need to focus on your work. Have not had an opportunity to watch this video yet, but just wanted to share my two cents that this guy absolutely knows what he is talking about and how to work w/cyclists, just may not have come across in this video.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Love you Joe! I remember you from the LnL days hope you’re well
@andrewwoffinden8671
@andrewwoffinden8671 3 ай бұрын
I think people don't talk anywhere near enough about how to actually pedal so it's good to have someone talking on this. I'm always thinking about it and unfortunately although good peddling (and recruitment) is essential to being any good wherever the energy comes from, glutes, hams, quads whatever, it's still muscle activation and muscle activation and work has an oxygen cost that's the same, energy is energy. If you can get 250 watts of FTP out of your quads then you're not getting 270 watts of FTP by bringing your glutes into the picture. You will distribute load to different muscles which is good but it won't increase power output.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Good point and thank you I agree we should be discussing pedaling and technique nuances more than we’re not in cycling. I do, however, want to add to your discussion of power output simply distributing to more muscles. And I invite you to consider the GluteDoping approach to motor control of the body for selective muscle recruitment as similar to the change in motor control a drummer uses to play the same beat soft and then loud and then soft. There ultimately is a final volume of sound but the internal “mix” of the components is balanced in a way that the bass drum (or the glutes) are “louder” than others and thus preserving fatigue elsewhere. ❤
@andrewwoffinden8671
@andrewwoffinden8671 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDoc Yes it totally works to preserve fatigue. I do it a lot. I often think of putting the power through my heel which makes me rear chain dominant and through toe for bringing it quad focused. (not literally obvs, still clipped into pedals but just as a visualising technique that works well). My point though is that it doesn't reduce the cardiovascular cost of producing power which is the limiting factor usually so though it can reduce fatigue it generally won't increase your power output though it may make putting that power out less unpleasant!
@ttb1513
@ttb1513 3 ай бұрын
Hmm. "Muscle activation and work has an oxygen cost that’s the same, energy is energy". Ok, if involving the glutes, the strongest muscle with great endurance that won’t cramp, is interchangeable with the quad, as both are just muscle activation, try getting all you power from your calves instead of so much from your quads. I’m thinking there’s something to be said for recruiting your glutes, like he said around 40:00, to get through climbs, and then have other more easily fatigued sprinting muscles ready and preserved for the sprint to the finish.
@andrewwoffinden8671
@andrewwoffinden8671 3 ай бұрын
@@ttb1513 Yes totally agree. I'm always thinking of where I'm recruiting from and often recruiting from glutes. I guess my point is that it's really beneficial but it probably won't increase your ftp or say your 5 minute power.
@Lemond75
@Lemond75 3 ай бұрын
Glute doping with a healthy dose of cocaine too it would seem. Can only presume he got his doctorate from the same place as Dr Nick Riviera from the Simpsons.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha what a reference, I talk faster than him. No cocaine though. Holy Spirit!
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 ай бұрын
Genius isn't exclusive to a select few, rather it's an ability to recognize and utilize the genius in all things.
@oitotheworld23
@oitotheworld23 3 ай бұрын
This attempt at teaching is too manic to be effective. Q: "What are the five exercises?" A: 20-min soliloquy... It's too bad bc he clearly has a lot of good information, but his presentation is so messy most listeners will not have as many actionable takeaways as they otherwise would.
@xaviernogueira
@xaviernogueira 3 ай бұрын
Everyone has their own communication style. Being able to synthesize information into takeaways can be pushed onto the viewer for more nuance things, or the responsibility of the teacher for more straightforward things. I personally prefer the longer form explanation as I don't like clear takeaways, I like to be able to synthesize new information into information I previously synthesized, to my own conclusions about what I might need to do
@alexbinder1592
@alexbinder1592 3 ай бұрын
This guy also said, “I have a frame work that doesn’t change…” people have different problems when they come to him. He addresses athlete’s issues based on his assessment… sounds like there aren’t take aways because you need to pay him to diagnose your issue and he’d probably provide an intervention.
@cosbro5389
@cosbro5389 3 ай бұрын
This was great ..thanks to both of you for some great tips on riding and moving. Attitude is everything. I see tough criticism in the comments but no actual wisdom/advice. If you have not got anything good to say then say nothing.
@danfox8819
@danfox8819 3 ай бұрын
I agree, the criticism is a bit harsh. Seems like people are always wanting the basic action points laid out for them, without understanding any of the underlying principles. While he is admittedly, a bit esoteric, when you listen to what he is saying, there’s really a lot of good information given. Also, he does this for a living, so it makes no sense for him to simply give all the information in a video.
@DDai-qd8uk
@DDai-qd8uk 3 ай бұрын
Pretty cool you had Johnny Knoxville on the channel but geez 1hr20min of nothing.
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 3 ай бұрын
Skipped to 19:30 and still don't know what the secret is...
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Hi I’m Timothy Woo, Welcome to the GluteDoping LAB. 🎸🫏
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDoc still nothing.
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 3 ай бұрын
The difference between this guy and someone like KneesOverToesGuy Ben Patrick is night and day. Both self taught, by the sounds of things, but Ben can impart useful, regessable exercises to fix things in about 3 minutes flat. This guy? I dunno I was 19:30 in and still didn't know what he was on about. No way am I going to sit here for another hour in the hopes that somewhere in there he'll describe the problem and how his stuff can help fix it.
@ariffau
@ariffau 3 ай бұрын
This fella would make a great teacher in primary school
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha thank you for the compliment! my first job was a kindergarten music teacher and I just got back from a mission to Thailand working with kids in children’s homes.
@ariffau
@ariffau 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDoc I teach English as Second Language for those aged 13 - 17. That’s how I could tell 😁 takes one to know one
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
@@ariffau respect! Thank you for what you do! ❤️
@starlitshadows
@starlitshadows 3 ай бұрын
I think some of the criticism is warranted. He did provide a lot of good information however as to why the glute shuts off. And I gather it requires practicing several exercises to engage them. I think some folks were looking for the actual exercises to do. Though I suspect you have to work directly with him for that. Regardless, I still got something from this. And will try what he says he does when cramps occur. I have spinal issues and I started dealing with them cramping got more frequent and severe. Oddly the mid back area is where I have damage right where he pushed. And low back/ hip a bit. I find that my bike position is very important. If my position leads to a rounded back and posterior rotated hips I'm screwed. Saddle height, tilt, fore/aft and reach all have to be just right. Brendan did you change anything in your position before this occurred or have you tried making changes to help remedy the problem?
@EVOQBIKE
@EVOQBIKE 3 ай бұрын
yes, all healed now! will make a full recap video. sorry a bit much to summarize here, it took 6 months! yikes
@starlitshadows
@starlitshadows 3 ай бұрын
@@EVOQBIKE no worries, looking forward to that one.
@MattiasThyr
@MattiasThyr 3 ай бұрын
You know that sprinters mounted the saddle more back when going to the tours mountain stages to not to be too spent for the sprints
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Really? Did not know that. That’s cool.
@MattiasThyr
@MattiasThyr 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDoc The gear systems had lower ratios and the options were limited. This was the first time I encountered you. I’ve been following Evoq for a long time. I like your perspective on the neuromuscular system. Everyone who knows Nordic skiing at a higher level knows that you should increase the speed of your poling when sprinting because it’s closer to the nervous system, and the legs follow the pace of the arms (less muscle mass and resistance, I suppose). So, when you talk about how the glutes need to be trained to remain dominant as long as possible in resistance training, I get excited and curious about what method can be used to achieve this. Number 2: Seeing that cycling can only be combined in six ways was refreshing and insightful, in my opinion. Thank you. I’ve found you on Skool. Looking forward to more conversations with you there.
@crowdude01
@crowdude01 3 ай бұрын
Been following Dr. Woo for a while now and even though his advice is very helpful, he seems to be struggling as of late. He sounds like he is on drugs or something.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Yo! I’m doing alright, life’s a struggle but we’re pressing through. I am grateful for each opportunity to trust God. Thanks for following me for a while. We’re getting back into teaching and training so if there’s anything you’re struggling with hit me up. ❤
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 3 ай бұрын
WOW!!! I tuned in to find out what time it was, and was given a haphazard rambling dissertation on how to build a clock and the history of time. But never came close to telling me the time. In fact, I wasted 100 mins of time. Sorry Brendan, but you could do better by just explaining it yourself. One of your less than optimal videos.
@EVOQBIKE
@EVOQBIKE 3 ай бұрын
sorry you felt this was a waste of time. While he was long winded at times, I felt like he provided some interesting insight into how we should pedal and unique topics re: the glute naturally wants to turn off for most of us when we sit down on the saddle. Taking in your feedback for future videos and thank you for commenting!
@DDai-qd8uk
@DDai-qd8uk 3 ай бұрын
​@@EVOQBIKE 100minutes to say, "the glute naturally wants to turn off for most of us when we sit down on the saddle"?
@ttb1513
@ttb1513 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@DDai-qd8ukUm, no. 41:55 He makes it clear that glutes can be "awoken" to instantly become 2x stronger just by some activation exercises. Watch 3 minutes from that point and see if you get nothing from it. It isn’t strictly about "strengthening the glutes", but also (and overlooked) about activating them. His PT work shows that people’s reaction is to think they only have to strengthen their glutes to fix problems. (Yes, it is a wicked long video, and I’m not saying it couldn’t be more concise).
@XPCTECH
@XPCTECH 3 ай бұрын
A ton of hate. No idea why. KZbin I guess. I see a passionate knowledgeable person... that's it.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! ❤ good interviews bring it out of people. I hope you were blessed in some way by watching.
@iancarson8614
@iancarson8614 3 ай бұрын
there was too much show going on here to get the actionable points. so glutes are vital, but i ride my bike and???
@carcasscrewproducer
@carcasscrewproducer 3 ай бұрын
In response to Tim's comment that riding on flat terrain makes it more challenging to activate the glutes, I wonder how exclusively training indoors during the winter impacts glute activation, and how much glute-specific work is needed to counter-balance that depending on training volume.
@EVOQBIKE
@EVOQBIKE 3 ай бұрын
yeah that's a good point! definitely one of the downsides of indoor, or even just flat riding. Gotta counter-balance those things if you want to be at your best!
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Great comment. That’s a whole field of specialty we looked into back in 2020-2021 when everybody got into trainer riding and Zwift. We found you need to almost double up the off-bike GluteDoping dose just to keep the body calibrated from riding a hamster wheel. The lack of freedom of movement biases untrained riders towards terrible technique and quad dominance. And the ERG mode/feeling of pushing rather than feeling of riding plays a huge roll in trying to translate trainer power to real world power. I found that racing in 2021-2023 was impossible to keep up unless you had developed “the Zwift” motor. Aka sustained, high intensity, perfect pedaling, with synthetic resistance smoothed out so many riders gaps in their power phase while others body’s just broke down from the trainer. I could teach a whole lecture series on what we’ve discovered and who we’ve helped get good at it. As a PT and a racer I recommend indoor training to all riders. It’s an essential part of the modern cyclists utility belt. To not have it it to play golf without your irons.
@jeremyleake6868
@jeremyleake6868 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDocI couldn’t work out from the above if you’re saying indoor training is good or bad for technique. The first bit of what you say sounds like it’s negative and then you seem to finish by saying its an important part of cycling training.
@WattsOnTheUp
@WattsOnTheUp 3 ай бұрын
If chasing one's tail were considered a glute activation exercise, then he dis a great job.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha that’s funny my dog chases his tail and I always laugh at him. I’ve found pursuing the same thing for decades and diving deep on it has revealed more benefit than I ever thought. I’ve never felt better and more confident on the bike. Come check it out!
@MattiasThyr
@MattiasThyr 3 ай бұрын
I must say that I need those outliers to wake up. Been in cycling over 35years so vanilla doesn’t move me much
@JuanAsencio-jc2ms
@JuanAsencio-jc2ms 3 ай бұрын
assuming you have a high end professional bike fit on a TT bike and have no issues with aches or discomfort, Would using Q rings or oval rings Help with glute activation? Would they help at all for cycling performance?
@EVOQBIKE
@EVOQBIKE 3 ай бұрын
Q rings def are debatable. I've heard people swear by them, but then move away from them. I can't personally speak to their plus or minus since I've never been on them -Brendan
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
I can’t say that Q rings are the critical equipment for glute activation. I’d argue that IF you have all the other things handled first (spine core glutes knees feet ALL trained up to the GluteDoping standards) then if your personal riding style or selected strategy for victory demands Q-rings then by all means use them. I had a rider who took 4th at USA TT nationals Men’s a couple years ago. And Q rings was his preference. Amongst other riders we’ve seen. They report that the mechanically induced smoothness assisted their motor control smoothness to be better. Meaning: the equipment helps them maintain ideal technique. Just like my drumset and guitars (I’m also a musician) when they’re “set up” for me how I know I want it because I’m playing at an elite level…my best ability as the person can shine through the equipment. Same same. Hope that helps!
@frankreyes4
@frankreyes4 3 ай бұрын
Automatically liked this guy’s motivation to help and his fast talk
@thecyclinggreek274
@thecyclinggreek274 3 ай бұрын
Tim needs to tighten his message significantly. This was excrutiating most of the time. I think I was able to extract how to activate glutes on the ride, but it was vague. I'll try what I think I heard.
@XPCTECH
@XPCTECH 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like, Cyclist's Syndrome, which is a common term for symptoms of pudendal nerve irritation or pudendal neuralgia. See a Neurologist.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
That too is a good thing to screen out 🫡
@TheCyclingCardio
@TheCyclingCardio 3 ай бұрын
He’s a man with lots of things in his head, but his flight of ideas gets into it. He has problem in managing it into a concrete, step by step executable ideas and program..I wonder how he survived his final doctorate presentation . On a final note, he is too busy explaining and proving himself instead of delivering the information
@greenmarketheating
@greenmarketheating 3 ай бұрын
I really liked that actually and remember you can’t fire a cannon from a canoe
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 3 ай бұрын
Yes you can fire a cannon from a canoe tho
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Glad you got a take-away! I encourage riders to use that mantra as a small reminder when trying to sustained intervals. The short coaching cue I yell is “core tuck” try that one.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγοςsmall cannon big canoe yes.
@zariaman
@zariaman 3 ай бұрын
Had to stop my ride to comment. Guest had impressive ability to redirect questions. Never answered how do I know if my glutes activated in ride? Answer: I have never changed my video workouts.
@rangle187
@rangle187 3 ай бұрын
Tim got into cat 2 and then reclassified to cat 3 where he is more competitive. Facts
@cooperk4
@cooperk4 3 ай бұрын
He later became a cat 1 and completed all 5 stages of the Redlands Bicycle Classic as a father of 3 and was awarded the Carol King Sportsmanship Award by the race directors.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
@@cooperk4and my bro Kyle whom I love was cheering me on the whole time! I miss you man. Let’s have coffee.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Ooh and fun fact, my race number for Redlands was 187
@cooperk4
@cooperk4 3 ай бұрын
@@GluteDoperDoc I’d love to. However when I text you back it doesn’t say “delivered” and turns green and says it’s sent as a text message instead of an iMessage.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
@@cooperk4 whooops. Fixed. #techishard
@cooperk4
@cooperk4 3 ай бұрын
Give me a call Tim. Let’s grab a coffee.
@GluteDoperDoc
@GluteDoperDoc 3 ай бұрын
Texted you bro ❤
@bedford4111
@bedford4111 3 ай бұрын
This is a mess.
@DavidxWebb
@DavidxWebb 3 ай бұрын
Brendon - I can hear your voice in extremely small doses in the last half of the video. Might want to listen to it again from the app.
@EVOQBIKE
@EVOQBIKE 3 ай бұрын
thank you. there is definitely something weird happening with the audio here that we didn't catch; appreciate it!
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 3 ай бұрын
Saying glute doping fixes all of your riding problems... yeah right. Sounds like woowoo. But will have a listen
@DavidxWebb
@DavidxWebb 3 ай бұрын
My glutes are mutes
@cashcash5711
@cashcash5711 Ай бұрын
Holly what ???? This video need a remake !!! To much bla bla bla … difficult to find what is important and what is just rhetoric 🥵
@emilegoguely4032
@emilegoguely4032 3 ай бұрын
Can't make it past 12min. This guest has a horrible way of communicating
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