Understanding NASCAR's Radically Different New TV Deal

[@GordoFabulous]

Every race should have a broadcast option and a streaming option.

[@EricEstepp]

In a perfect world

[@EndlessFlame1]

Agreed

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

Exactly

[@RippingItAllSportsCards]

And lose millions upon millions of dollars?

[@wolfpackstudios3040]

yeah well with as long of a deal they are doing when the next tv deal gets going if they do another long term deal and it goes full streaming they gonna get burned when they have more then 2 streaming options they will lose big when fans dont sub to more apps cause they have enough already.

[@NR_88]

Here’s another crazy fact. The Chicago Street race only had around 100k less viewers than the Indy 500. NASCAR has its issues, but it’s still king.

[@PhotonBread]

I think the difference there is that it was the inaugural Chicago Street Race, whereas it was the 107th Indy 500. The fact that many people still watch Indy after seeing it 106 times says more about Indy than the first ever NASCAR street race, in a major city, on a holiday weekend, with a huge Motorsport name from across the pond 🤷‍♂️

[@DemonCipher13]

Look at the stands for the Indy 500 last year, compared to any given Cup race, but certainly compared to Chicago. Over 300,000. Compared to around 50-60 thousand for Chicago. With the way they are moving, NASCAR won't remain where it is for long. Especially with limiting access, locking things behind streaming. It isn't the right shoe for this foot.

[@nickmangona48]

​@DemonCipher13 The Indy 500 has 300,000 people every year because is the most historical and prestigious race in the entire world. Any other IndyCar race does not get 300,000 fans. And streaming is the future, whether you like it or not, is the future. It's not a bad move at all.

[@DemonCipher13]

@nickmangona48 Listen to what Eric said. 80% of NASCAR's audience is over 50. Do you really think that generation is running to get these streaming services? No. NASCAR'S outreach to new fans simply isn't working. You're right. Streaming is the future. And in many ways, the present. But right now, for NASCAR, access needs to be the priority. If you stream and televise simultaneously, you broaden the audience, and don't punish your core. The issue of new fans can be dealt with, but not at the expense of your core. They're getting older, dying, even. Meaning those numbers will not normalize. They'll continue to dwindle. Access. Access is the most important question NASCAR can answer right now, and this deal does not do it.

[@nickmangona48]

@DemonCipher13 It's still not a bad move. NASCAR needed to change what they were doing BAD. Half the reason people have stopped watching is because broadcasts had not changed one bit since 2001. This is a step in the right direction. And If NASCAR's gonna be anywhere in the next 20-30 years, they need to stop bending over to the older generation and try to get more younger viewers, because the older crowd is not gonna be around forever.

[@inFenity]

NBC not putting their races on Peacock completely is infuriating.

[@GCrypson]

Peacock sucks Edit. What I noticed was that when they cut to the "side by side" commercials on Roku the stream would stop and the embedded commercial took over. Was not watchable.

[@Individual_two]

NBC not offering the option of streaming NASCAR Cup races on Peacock was a surprise.

[@AfterX1]

they cant do it properly anyways, they fail miserabley with indy 500 as it is, any "side by side" on actual NBC is a full screen commercial on peacock, and the same 4 ads too. Peacock is trash and so is their UI

[@johnthefalcon2903]

​@AfterX1 Peacock is trash but for racing fans that don't watch a lot of other TV, $6 a month is a bargain over paying for something like Sling or KZbin TV to get USA Network. For Indycar races I just watch a driver's in car feed on the Indycar app during the commercials. It gets me through USA races, still use antenna for network NBC races. $6 month for the full Indycar and IMSA seasons including practice, qualifying, and feeder series is good bargain.

[@uncledaddy8675]

I usually stream from Abu Dhabi. No commericals, they carry every Truck, Xfinity and Cup race. It's not an illegal stream, it's what the network chooses to stream. They're called ADSports. @@johnthefalcon2903 You don't even need to have a VPN. I love watching the cameras between commercials, reminds me of watching races on satellite in the late 80s early 90s, but without the commentators prepping for the next segments.

[@superblindeye1]

For once, being a blind NASCAR fan pays off. I listen to all of the races on the radio, thus I only have to worry about prn and mrn.

[@joshhenderson989]

I have been saying for years NASCAR should have grown their app. We used to be able to watch the race from a few camera angles, as well as in car cameras. NASCAR could have had a tier system charging a higher monthly fee to give the subscriber access to a NASCAR exclusive broadcast on the app. This would have been a direct income for the sport. You still have ads. Or allow for an ad free subscription. NASCAR should have wrote it into their tv deal clause, allowing them the rights to produce their own app based content. This would be huge for fans. Everything would be at the finger tips of their fans.

[@justinwilliford7151]

I miss the race view option. it really was worth paying for when that was an option to use. i could follow any driver and see a 3d view of what was going on. really miss that :(

[@billsmith9737]

I agree with you .. but nascar can’t pay itself 7.7 billion dollars … it’s about money period .. it is what it is

[@mattcardarelli]

Agreed and I would’ve happily paid. What they have now is a confusing mess.

[@sharonjones3642]

I agree with you. I purchased F1 TV when ESPN pulled their disagreement stunt and I would pay for all NASCAR events to be in one place. No commercials so you don't miss anything.

[@steveeazy18]

If i have to pay to watch Nascar other then what i already have I'm not doing it!! I'll just move on like I did with football! I think you did a great job explaining it thanks 👊☘️

[@cco53587]

Xfinity really is the underrated champion of this deal. $100 a month? The CW is free!

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

Agreed.

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

Agreed

[@patmanbnl]

NASCAR needs something like F1 TV Pro. Been using that to watch a ton of classic races.

[@rescobar7929]

I have a feeling the Xfinity series will get close tv ratings to the Cup series

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

Lol, true because Nascar only has 9 on main TV in 2025.

[@markc3456]

That's kind of where I see myself ending up.

[@mrmicrowave4574]

NASCAR did well with this deal, however I don’t like the 10-race period where races will be split across Amazon and TNT. Seems a bit messy and hard to follow

[@dannyblock5267]

I feel the same way how am I gonna watch 5 races in 2025 knowing there's a possibility I may have to watch some more NHRA races in coming year because Tony Stewart is gonna be competing full time but again that's 2025 not 2024. But I might try and watch some more NHRA races. and I am not big on Amazon Prime Video I have never used it I don't know if I want to.

[@christiansmith9414]

I’ve always filled the calendar on my phone with the date/time of each race

[@harlanscudder8108]

Amazon should have got all 10

[@DerrickRG91]

​@@johnhaas2523smoothbrain alert.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Either pay for a subscription or you'll simply miss it quit crying and be glad they got the deal to keep the sport healthy and prosperous

[@Ttt11q]

My opinion is there is nothing wrong with Fox and NBC showing the races, It really sucks only being able to watch 9 Races a year now,

[@rocksreviewsreactions337]

Yeah, they need to lessen the cable races.

[@darthhull85]

Twitch is free and every race will be on there as always.

[@RDSk0]

Here's a thing I just noticed: in all 3 post-COVID seasons (22, 23, 24) the All-Star race was the 15th race on the schedule. And now FOX has it among it's 14 races. This pretty much guarantees an Easter break.

[@SMELLGOODER]

WOW!!! That's WAAAYYYY too many channels, networks, stations, planets, galaxies, sheesh. That's gonna be confusing for some. Will cause alot of people to miss alot of races. Just my opinion. Thanks Eric!!

[@NeedsLessWedge]

​​@@johnhaas2523absolutely..these guys must not remember or be too young to know what a TV guide was. Or better yet, the good ole days with Galaxy 4 and other satellites with unencrypted live feeds, watching Benny Parsons and Bob Jenkins practice their lines and normal conversations during commercials..lol

[@ihyghxstt]

I think the biggest thing about streaming everyone seems to miss is how it effects the schedule, with streaming we don't have to worry about being in something else's time slot, we have a race that gets delayed? If the track can handle it now NASCAR doesn't have pressure to end early. We have a lot of late cautions and we're pushing towards an OT restart string? Nothing else is coming on so let the boys at it! Wanna experiment with new tracks and such? Well viewers numbers don't matter because ads don't do as well monetarily on streaming platforms as they do with cable as is. It is a slippery slope and the hit to some fans wallets sucks but streaming opens up A LOT we aren't thinking of.

[@mattcardarelli]

Solid point my friend. Never realized this glaring benefit for the fans. Chicago race this year alone was influenced by the national tv timeslot.

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

Heh, my dad and I hate this new deal. We've been watching since around 2008, and we only watch main TV races. We never had cable, and especially not paid for streaming services, so of course over the years we began watching less and less races. Now we will be able to only watch 9 races in 2025. That's a huge mistake by Nascar to only have 9 races on main free TV.😐

[@nickdrumgool3416]

Cable is a dying breed. In the near future cable won't be a thing at all

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

@mjsultimate True. We watch a few of those when we can.

[@bryangriner7564]

Same here, will be watching the 9 races, hope they lose their a$$ over this and put it back on main tv. Guess will be watching Xfinity races on the CW.

[@t.c.5721]

“if it is not on broadcast TV I’ll be watching it on the radio.” If you’ve never seen a race on radio you’re missing out. MRN and PRN have their own apps and websites.

[@hart3131]

A 40 percentage increase in revenue to NASCAR just means that we will have 100 percent increase in commercials.

[@sharonjones3642]

Maybe the Amazon programming won't have commercials. I got Peacock with no commercials to watch live Moto, Indy and IMSA racing.

[@KA._.144]

@@sharonjones3642no ads just a black screen🤣 idk whats worse

[@NeedsLessWedge]

​@@sharonjones3642if I recall TNF on Prime has their logo posted up and no cameras when the real network goes commercial. I am not fully sure on this though . However the NFL actually has TV timeouts though too.

[@rickhornsby2523]

Big Canadian NASCAR fan over here just waiting to hear where to watch in a couple years.

[@Bro1up]

Same here

[@lolimadethisvid]

TSN

[@rickhornsby2523]

@@lolimadethisvid international rights are up for renewal in 2025

[@alexlambert2003]

I know MLB is very different from NASCAR. But, I can watch every 162 regular season baseball game for less than $200 a year. That includes special documentaries, MLB Network, Spring training, and Radio coverage. It is amazing and I love it! Although, NASCAR might cost over $100 monthly to watch just the 36 cup races alone. It might be cheaper to start flying out and attending the races lol.

[@davids5006]

Yeah just split fuel cost and you'll probably even save money

[@mattcardarelli]

Indianapolis went from $35 in 2023 to $50 in 2024 for general admission. They’ll get it any way they can

[@stevenrosenthal720]

I'm saying the same thing I pay $200 a year for MLB whole season and 150 a year for the NBA whole season why NASCAR could not pay $250 to $300 a year

[@RippingItAllSportsCards]

There's massive local TV deals in baseball that allow it... and that's why there are local blackouts with MLBTV.

[@davids5006]

@@stevenrosenthal720 maybe you should find another hobby lol

[@jimsoutdooradventures2748]

I cut the cord a couple years ago cuz times got tough financially. So im use to only seeing races on Fox/NBC. So now with streaming, I'll see even less races,but at least I'll get to see Xfinity races again. So i have mixed feelings. Im just not the die hard fan that i was 20 years ago and it doesn't look like accessibility is going to get any easier for older fans .

[@jakethomas1279]

All the amazon races will be streamed for free on twitch tv as well thats what the do with thursday night football

[@TheCloudCreation]

I really don't like this deal, mainly because it now splits just the cup series of NASCAR to 8 different channels. My dad is a life long racing and NASCAR fan. He moved to the states from the middle of nowhereville, Makay, Australia back in the 80s because he was a top fuel drag racer and loved NASCAR. I spent my entire life growing up, racing gokarts, onto dirt cars and the younger ranks of NASCAR. While I was growing up, both of our lives were completely and utterly consumed by NASCAR and various other racing organizations to the point where I would miss over half of all school days in order to take part in a race half way across the coutry every week. My dad, has absolutely ZERO idea what channels NASCAR is going to be on and doesn't have subscriptions to the 5 different networks that you need in order to watch every race. A man, who spent his entire life in racing, who flew across the world in a time when Australia didn't even have color tv and the closest airport was a 6 hour drive on a dirt path to Melbourne, in order to be closer to it, can not even be bothered to learn the new tv schedule because it is too complicated. TLDR: This new tv deal is all over the place, and will lose viewship for the sport.

[@TheCloudCreation]

@@johnhaas2523 oh no I remember those days. But just because I'm bashing the current TV deal doesn't mean previous deals were perfect.

[@danielmedina8194]

NASCAR is my favorite sport, and I watch every race. I live in Mexico, but it's impossible to watch it legally (with English commentators), so I have to resort to watching it on Twitch or some internet page. It's very frustrating, and this past year, I couldn't watch some races because of that.

[@DeMorcan]

If they would add a NASCAR subscription like F1 where you can stream every race.

[@elliemagdolna3269]

thanks for making the easy-to-read graphics. the new changes are a wrinkle in our routine, but your presentation smooths out any misunderstanding.

[@hi_im_sota]

I can’t imagine not being able to sell your top series to ONE live-streaming service 🙄 I guess I’m gonna miss the Amazon potentially the TNT stretch…

[@caddamackz7393]

I recently adapted to these streaming platforms. I added Amazon prime and Peacock to my TV. After dumping Netflix, HBO showtime, and HBO max for Amazon prime and peacock im actually not spending as much money a month as i previously was. As stubborn as i am, ill adapt to it and build a cheatsheet to put on my fridge to remind me what practices and qualifying sessions are on what channels lol. Ive always had KZbin TV as well, so I'll have everything on my TV in regards to nascar. Im still not a huge fan of the switch, but I'll adjust.

[@BenMyattt]

If I want to watch my football team play, I know what channel they’ll be on. Same channel, every week. I don’t want to have to Google every week to find where to watch.

[@jaggermatt]

I’m a 28 year old who up until now has had no way of watching the races because we don’t have cable or an antenna. I’ve almost exclusively listened to the races on mrn. With prime and max getting in it I can now actually watch the race so it’s a win for me.

[@chrisw443]

An antenna is 10 bucks in the back of your tv. How do you not have one? You could even find one in the garbage there everywhere and its free tv.

[@NathanChambers]

the radio broadcasts suck so bad. better to just torrent the race on Monday than to listen to the terrible radio broadcasts :)

[@chrisrosser5260]

​@@chrisw443❤

[@nickklavdianos5136]

Nascar uploads every race on KZbin after a couple of days. Sure, it's not live broadcast, but it's a pretty good way to watch if you don't have access to the live broadcasts.

[@Stormfly998]

Biggest thing I don’t like is how many are on cable. Cable is a hella lot more expensive then streaming is for me and my family. So I may just listen to the radio for those’s races. But that’s my only real problem.

[@billsmith9737]

You tube tv

[@nickhildabridle1612]

I will say this. Your channel brought me back to paying attention to Nascar races after a 20 year break. I still will not attend an event or spend the hours necessary to watch a race. I can spend 30 minutes between you & extended highlights to see what happened fir very little cost. Plus I know exactly where those are located.

[@BB60RFB]

I like the new set up. Nascar needs to grow and I support any way they go. My family hasn't used cable in years and it's Nascar evolving with today's culture

[@johncroteau1796]

Liking the look of your studio. Great job. Love your NASCAR coverage. Keep it up.

[@SN1PERx64]

One note, as someone who listens to MRN, which is wholly owned by NASCAR, usually calls out weird/bad calls by officiating, but not becasue they want to be unbiased, but becasue NASCAR loves drama. Bad calls create drama, and if that will get more clicks, NASCAR productions will talk about it.

[@billy88joe]

I hope practice and qualifying get some more content , with no commercials too fill time on streaming you’d be looking at like bearly an hour of content. Maybe we can finally go back to getting interviews with the whole field instead of just the pole winner and the poplar guys

[@guymichaels3233]

A great way to lose fans. Put your product on too many platforms that most people don't/can't/won't have access to.

[@naparacingfan9275]

They really dropped the ball with network TV races. Going from 20 network TV races to 9 is not good. If Prime/TNT replaced FOX/NBC cable races fine but it shouldn't be more streaming and more cable.

[@joshgardiner2989]

The real question is, will Prime stream the races on twitch like they stream Thursday night football?

[@UTSpeedShow]

I’ve heard that they will but can’t confirm 100%

[@hughgabalski510]

It impacts me. I’ll only be able to see 10 races a year.

[@DennyDeliversYT]

i do wonder who’s gonna commentate the prime and TNT races… i think i speak for most that we want allen bestwick back

[@fabian_balle]

If people who are interested in the series can't watch it on TV/streaming because they dont have the right subscription they might just go and attend these races in person. It's really interesting to think about what the tracks make of this deal, do they want to reach most people on TV (broadcast) or opt for the new streaming service...

[@abraham88garcia]

Could we see a scenario where some Xfinity series races get more rating than a cup race ?? Especially once we get to the streaming races

[@chrisw443]

We will and it'll embarrass the hell outta the cup series.

[@kevinclark6528]

Hey Nascar -- 69 yrs, retired, fixed income -- have u tube -- looks like I am go n 2 miss a few races etc.. THANX !!!!

[@zachhalverson69]

My biggest question is will Prime and TNT produce their own race coverage? TNT and NBC shared resources in the 2000s, and with how challenging and expensive it is to broadcast NASCAR I would have to wonder if these broadcast partners plan on sharing resources again. Potential scenarios include: 1. FOX produces the 5 Prime Video races, NBC produces the 5 TNT broadcasts 2. Prime and TNT share resources and those 10 races look the same 3. NASCAR Productions produces the 10 races for Prime Video and TNT 4. Prime Video does their own thing. Perhaps an alternate feed or two like they do with their NFL broadcasts 5. Least likely option but with the investments in the new NASCAR Productions facility and NP already doing the CW Xfinity broadcasts, does NASCAR follow F1's model and produce a world feed that the FOX/Prime/TNT/NBC adds their graphics and talent like Sky Sports does? I DON'T think this will happen but I'd have to think it has at least been considered. Looking forward to something new for a change when it comes to NASCAR on TV. Just a shame we gotta wait well over a year for it.

[@greggkiest1069]

Nothing to understand, i’m not paying to stream.

[@billsmith9737]

Get KZbin tv and cut your cord .., cause if you didn’t have cable you didn’t watch every race already anyway … which means all you did was write a comment just to bitch about nascar … every sport is moving to streaming nothing can be done to change that

[@jbor67149]

So, I think one of the reasons they are having lower viewing is that a lot have cut the cord, and the ability to get FS1 also costs, along with these other other streaming Apps you have to pay for. Been a NASCAR fan all my 67 yrs, but I turns me away when most of the races are broadcast elsewhere. You bring most of it back to regular TV, your viewing i believe will go back up. I know it's business but, without us that will turn more away, which it has done sometimes with me.

[@skydyver33]

They''ll likely show more commercial breaks (if that is possible) across the board. That aspect is ruining it.

[@diecasticdad4261]

This reminds me of the late 90’s/early 2000’s where races were not as often on regular TV. 2025 only has 9 points paying races, for regular TV comparison 1997 7 races, 1998 8 races, 1999 & 2000 had 10. Looks like we’ll be watching a lot of xfinity in 2025. Nascar may put the whole race replays on KZbin a day or two after the fact like they do now.

[@ILoveDietPepsi94]

So glad you make videos keeps me up too date on the world of nascar even in the offseason. Do you have merch? i want that hoodie

[@flyingpizza98]

ngl i really dont like this deal. i was hoping theyd all be on TV with the option to stream, not exclusively streaming or exclusively TV

[@kevinm5327]

The new broadcast package is similar to the NFL: CBS, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network, Amazon Prime (+Nickelodeon and NFL RedZone). I think that is NASCAR'S model. "If it works for football,..."

[@jbucktheman]

Why can’t they do every race on network TV and streaming at the same time?

[@jbucktheman]

@@johnhaas2523 wrong English

[@TriplePProductionz]

It's worth pointing out the the TV deal adds up to 38 races. If the 14 fox races include the all star and clash, it likely means they're giving up 2 points races, one of them being the coke 600, since the coke 600 is the 16th race of the 2024 schedule including the clash and all star. If fox is getting 14 points races, it means nascar plans to expand the schedule adding 2 more races. Either way, it implies nascar is gonna make some big changes to the 2025 schedule

[@fletch2j91]

I'm old enough to remember when we had TNN, CBS, TBS, and ESPN all in the same season, not to mention when things would get booted to ESPN2 (Which I didn't get at that time) It really does feel like I'm in this weird spot where I'm old enough to remember how popular NASCAR was in the 90's and most discourse I see now acts like it wasn't until after the original FOX & NBC deal in 2001 and Talladega Nights is when it became mainstream. Point I'm getting at is, it's not like we haven't had this many broadcast partners before, and I argue that at that time, it was big enough and promoted much better back then that people could find it. I get that more elderly people will have issues finding the Amazon races, but as far as the casual person or someone finding the races, the broadcast partners need to start promoting better. I never see ads promoting on social media anything outside the Daytona 500, but you can bet I will get a million different football ads every day for NFL and college when I don't even follow anything football related

[@ctm3922]

Don't understand why fans would be upset about this, just Google what channel / platform the race will be on. Been doing that same thing with other sports for years

[@Tvsnumber1fan]

I don’t see Formula 1 surpassing NASCAR anytime soon in overall audience. However at the end of the next television deal who knows. Plus Indycar isn’t doing all that well right now. So we will see what happens in the future.

[@dennisrupp5549]

Im worried how this is gonna efect the international viewers. I have to subscripe to multiple channels already to see all the races.

[@otaviofrn_adv]

speaking for my country, likely not much. Nascar has never been a super product here in Brazil, so we don't get a bidding war for rights. Generally we have only one broadcaster. Our current deal ends next year as well, my sincere bet is that Bandsports (our broadcaster here) retains the rights. There are no serious clash with F1 coverage (they get practices and qualis for F1), so I don't see a main reason for them to give the rights away hapeening.

[@aiwash2766]

Considering the awful news we’ve been hearing about Indycar lately I honestly think nascar is doing pretty well, maybe not great but pretty stable

[@xavierjuno4572]

Ya the sad thing about Indycar is that it's still recovering from the split despite the racing product

[@johnthefalcon2903]

For all Indycar's problems though it has a more fan friendly TV deal.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

Luckily I’ve got all of the apps/stations for NASCAR to be . Not really any different when most races where on cable and I didn’t have that growing up.

[@bman7068]

I love that they are still showing practice and qualifying I was nervous they may cut it off

[@fishingwithkar4871]

We need Spanish announcers did you ever hear them when they get a goal in soccer. Oh my God those announcers bring the energy when they get a score.

[@Glitchunlocked]

Not a fan of bringing in Amazon for streams. They've basically become the Disney of live sports. Too bad NASCAR wasn't willing to air races on TV and offer a streaming package for the whole season instead of breaking it up like this.

[@Glitchunlocked]

@@johnhaas2523 I get that, but they're basically approaching this broadcast deal the same way teams approach car sponsorship these days. NASCAR is facing an identity crisis, and fans have been complaining that they can't even tell cars apart because team colors change weekend from weekend. A sporadic broadcasting schedule is going to make things worse and harder for fans to follow IMO. They really should have bit the bullet and took a smaller deal for less networks. I feel like this new contract is going to come back to bite them.

[@tyman1014]

What's the situation for Canadian viewers like myself? Is the whole season still going to be on TSN?

[@Bro1up]

That’s what I’m hoping too.🤞

[@lolimadethisvid]

They'll all be on TSN as usual

[@alexander_324]

My perfect world: 14 Races on Big Fox 5 Races on Prime 19 races on NBC or Peacock

[@diecastcollector7982]

this sparks many ideas on the broadcasting for 2025 i wanna see kyle petty allen and maybe some more people

[@robbaxter2786]

As a Canadian I have concerns. I watch through TSN (their streaming service not through their cable channels) who picks up the current races from both fox and nbc. Decent price. $22 a month or so last time I checks. I have prime, but tnt…I don’t think I can even get that here…hopefully tsn picks it up so I still have access to a full season.

[@roncurtis8331]

The new tv deal has effectively priced me out of watching any races. I can’t afford 100 dollars to line the pockets of NASCAR. Guess I will have to depend on KZbin to get what I can find for free after the race is over. ITS ALL ABOUT GREED IN MY OPINION. l love racing but not like I used to. It’s a rich man’s sport and it has finally priced me out. By the way I’m 79 years old and have enjoyed racing for over 40 years but no more after all this B. S. If they loose my generation and aren’t attracting the younger generation then NASCAR may be doomed.

[@roncurtis8331]

@@johnhaas2523 great point

[@racegrubb2152]

It's not anymore complicated than it was in the 90s. CBS, ESPN, abc, tbs, tnn

[@chrisheinen9628]

I see Radio coverage in my future. Also please ask NASCAR if the Truck Series Analysis’ are going to be in a Studio or at the Track each race.

[@oldcdawg1]

I was almost impossible to find the races this year and it looks like it will be even harder now. I am retired and I will not pay $100 a month just to watch the races. I will just do what I did this year and watch the race recap on KZbin the nest day. Sad, I have been a Nascar fan for 30+ years and now all I can do is listen to the races on the radio.

[@donmacaskill5022]

It's pretty simple in Canada TSN for Cup & Xfinity and Fox Sports racing for Trucks.

[@tb9662]

I’m in my 20s watching nascar since I was a baby will never leave

[@justinstein4712]

I wish the truck series had TNT/NBC instead of FS1

[@brewsnoop]

Thanks for the rundown Eric, interesting times indeed. I wish NASCAR had a larger connection with KZbin.

[@atomicninja4137]

What I don’t like is, with the current schedule Amazon would broadcast the Coke 600…

[@davesnotheretv]

Hopefully like the NFL on Prime NASCAR on Prime will be available on Twitch for free.

[@bennettcom]

Well, at least i can still keep up with all of the Busch and Craftsman truck races.

[@darthhull85]

I’m thankful for those that stream the international feed for free. No commercials and no multiple channels and apps to sort through.

[@BCanterbury42]

Back in the day, Daytona 500 was on CBS, then races would either be on TNN, TBS, ABC, ESPN throughout the year with no consistent pattern. Aside from the five races streamed, you guys will be fine finding these races

[@otaviofrn_adv]

yes, the contracts were made by each track with the TV's. 2001 was the first unified contract nascar ever had

[@joealtamuro]

I bought a Peacock subscription on Black Friday for $19.99 for an entire year!!

[@battles423]

NASCAR should have kept the SPEED CHANNEL

[@AfterX1]

Eric: Thanks for the break-down. Easy answers here for Nascar: wanna win over the 'younger audience'? drop the full-screen commercials. ALL of soccer goes Commercial-free for 45+ minutes each half. F1 uses 1 sponsor for the US broadcast in ESPN and goes FULL Commercial free and not just the race but all post-race things too, until champagne happens. NFL, unless it's an injury RARELY goes full-screen commercials. STOP going full-screen during green flags, don't come back for JUST pit stops of lead lap cars when yellow. FIX THE BROADCASTING RULES. You have a chance to CHANGE EVERYTHING with Amazon races... there is ZERO EXCUSES for ads when doing STREAMING-ONLY. Also, for the cable channels, PLEASE for the love of GOD stop showing the same 4-6 ads for EVERY. F%&*ING. Commercial break. 25% of the races on over-the-air channels is F$%&ing pathetic.

[@otaviofrn_adv]

just disagree regarding the NFL, there is a ton of full screen commercials. During green flags it's outright a disrespect. Here in Brazil for F1 we are getting split screen for F1 and soccer on free and cable. It's not really a lot, so I can't complain it. If they start doing full screen commercials in green for F1 here, people will riot. For soccer? No one is crazy enough to even think about thinking such thing.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

As an F1 fan in addition to NASCAR, I can tell you that NASCAR has a better TV deal than F1 which is saying something considering the fact that ESPN promotes the heck out of F1. This is because in my view ESPN does not put any effort into their F1 coverage & simply uses Sky Sports's coverage (which isn't that good, especially when compared to what SPEED & then NBC put in before ESPN took over in 2017). The only good thing about F1 on ESPN is that it is commercial free which is something NASCAR could try in their new deal. I also think that NASCAR has a way better TV deal than Indycar which now faces a very uncertain future when it comes to its next TV deal that begins at the same time as this deal because it is very likely that NBC (Indycar's current TV partner) will dump them because they seem to prefer NASCAR over Indycar. There is also the fact that apart from the Indy 500, Indycar draws significantly less viewers & makes less ad revenue than NASCAR does for NBC even though all of the Indycar schedule is currently on the NBC family of networks.

[@DonaldWyman]

For me, the hardest races to watch will be the fs1 and USA races. I have antenna TV, I have Amazon, I have max, and peacock...but not fs1 and USA. Those I guess I will have to watch here on youtube afterwards.

[@Jenks2448]

I would like Fox to have an app like the Peacock app where you don’t have to have a cable, satellite, KZbin TV, Hulu, etc. subscription in order to pay for the Fox subscription to see their content.

[@earlreams583]

I have Hulu+, I have Prime, I have Peacock. It won't cost me any more to watch Nascar in 2025 than it does now.

[@JayStephens8]

I wish the nbc races would also be on peacock like why is it only a few are, indycar and imsa have all their races on peacock

[@tannerwilburn9203]

This is a follow up kinda to the creed news. Since jgr started having 2 or more full time drivers , 1 has always lagged behind (7th-13th) and 1 being a championship contender. Exceptions being 2020 where despite 7 wins from Harrison and jones and 0 from Riley , they were all mid . And 2021 where hemric didn’t win till the last race while Harrison and jones were once again mid and winless. 2018,2019,2022,2023 all had 1 guy be the ass kicker and 1 guy just run 10th. Of course for 3 of those seasons it was Brandon jones and another was a rookie Sammy smith but still. Something to look at with chandler and creed .

[@NASCAsual]

One thing that I don’t understand about the more money argument is that 150 million Americans have access to Amazon prime video already, right? And as you mentioned about the cable packages, if you have FS1, you’re likely to have TNT. I don’t see that it increases costs for most Americans by all that much. Will some people have to become new subscribers because of this? Yes, I’m sure they will. But it would be foolish of NASCAR and a disservice to the teams if they did not take this deal. The other thing that makes me chuckle is the notion that it is going to be complicated to find which channel a race will be on. It’s 2023 and very nearly 2024. You have nearly unlimited access to information with a 2 1/2 x 5”rectangular block that settles into the palm of your hand. I don’t care what anyone says. Finding what channel a sports program is on is not difficult. And if you say that it is, more power to you.

[@ShyteKreek46]

Looks like there will be 5 races (on Prime) that I will just have to listen to on the radio.

[@glad2be]

I've been a nascar fan since Dale Earnhardt broke into fold. I've watched a lot and attended around 20 races,mostly the 600. My racing buddies and myself have witnessed first hand nascar leaving their true fans,the fans that put them where they are, behind . 😢, from squeezing out tent camping, squeezing out small campers to now reaching out of the tv to charge us an attendance fee to watch !!! What the what ? Heck I live less than 50 miles from Wilkesboro and can't afford to go to the all star race because you can't buy single tickets. Only weekend packages, which means it makes sense to camp all weekend rite? Yeah, rite then you got to pay for that. It's all about the money . Guess I'll settle for the cw , and x-finity 😊

[@TenuousGamingYT]

Do you think tsn will still broadcast the races?

[@twopennypuppet]

Hey, as long as that Amazon Prime viewing has an on-demand option.

[@formulafish1536]

As cool as it is to see NASCAR has so many companies interested, wouldn’t it make more sense to have 3 partners, a free to air option to benefit those who are in the low-income bracket, the cable option to bring in some of the big dollars, and a streaming option that goes worldwide, such as Amazon Prime, that allows those of us overseas, such as in Australia and New Zealand, to be able to watch it and directly support NASCAR instead of watching it on our Fox Sports to Kayo Sports, which is basically recycling the Fox or NBC coverage. This also means that those who are watching know they are getting the whole season, and they don’t have to go looking, or buy multiple subscriptions. That is just my 2 bobs worth.

[@simonsmith1050]

Painted abs on a fire suit. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one...

[@kenbrien4978]

I’m in Canada. We currently get NASCAR races on TSN regardless of whether the races are on Fox or NBC.

[@kenbrien4978]

I also often listen to the races if I’m driving on Sirius XM 90.

[@HughWanztino]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! THANK YOU ERIC! NASCAR is leaving behind their loyal viewers. Never been a good move by them.

[@ethanhenrichs5677]

Yeah, whether Nascar likes it or not, the loyal viewers are the main free TV viewers.

[@motorosso3349]

In the new media deal, everyone wins except the fans. That is because there is no voice for the fans in these business meetings. Not sure how that voice could be heard except in the next season's viewership numbers. Unfortunately, that is a lagging indicator. So, we will have to suffer through this maze of broadcast crap to see NASCAR. Might end up being just too much trouble...

[@marvinlankford4167]

I guess I am open to new ideas I guess I will probably get the streaming platforms. Just hopefully I can have it for the free trial runs or a certain price for just a little bit while they are doing them on those certain platforms.

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

And let me tell you. I don't watch NASCAR on Fox. 2:32 I'm not going to touch it with a 25-ft pole.

[@dougrembowski5003]

So, if you have sling blue, you have access to all of the cable channels. The broadcast channels can be had with the addiction of an air TV device and a good antenna. This only leaves Amazon. I am amused by people who put the cost of prime membership as an additional streaming cost. You may not be aware of this, but Amazon has another side hustle called Online Shopping! I do not believe most people subscribe for the online streaming service. In fact, I would suggest most subscribers are unaware of this streaming service. I would love to see some data about its utilization, but I would believe it is below 20% of all Amazon users. So, keep up the silly season content.

[@MultiMike421]

Does anyone know how commercials we will get flooded with? We can all agree I think we get way too many commercials!