Understanding SPLIT and MERGE/MIXER Routing - Line 6 HELIX/HX STOMP

[@derrickmickle5491]

God, I love your videos! In 5 minutes, you cleared up a ton of confusion about splits in simple, concise language. Amazing work, as always.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! I’m trying to do some shorter videos as well as my usual longer videos, so I’m glad people have found this helpful 🤘

[@joethrelfall6370]

​@@ScottUhlMusicwhat's best to use for a stereo wet dry wet setup?

[@Rav3nghast]

Dude, you are such a blessing for musicians!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🙏🙏🙏 Thank you, I appreciate that

[@cannedmilk]

This makes sense to me. Thanks

[@Saberfist001]

Such an informative one this is..really appreciate 😊

[@lifedeath7]

Thanks for these videos, learned a lot

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for watching!

[@Franxiquito]

THIS is exactly how these things should be explained! The conciseness, examples, graphics, everything is perfect. Thank you!!!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

[@dzgear1]

Dude. You are THE GUY when it comes to Helix tutorials. Thanks again.✌

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you!

[@crocholiday]

For bass, I used splits to add dry signal into effects that don't have a blend feature. For a while I was goofing around with sending higher freq's to a guitar amp with distortion. I got some interesting sounds out of that. My downfall is patience. I lack the patience to explore all the HX Stomp can do...

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That’s a cool way to use it. And the hx stomp has so many things it can do in such a tiny space 🤘

[@KristohanongBisdakMusic]

Hx stomp is simply amazing. Thanks for this turtorial Scott. ❤

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! Glad to help 🤘

[@mikezingone9471]

I had no idea! Every time I think I know how to use this funny guitar box I see something new. Great job at explaining this!! Thanks 🙏

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 🙏

[@Drtydeeds]

Bro between you and John Nathan Cordy I've gained a lot of confidence with the Stomp in short order. Thanks!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Great to hear!

[@vandergleal]

Simple, covers the topic end to end, straight to the point without fluffy/subjective descriptions and very instructive... Even knowing and using this to a very big extend (example, on Bass I like to apply octaver only when I play from the second lower E (aka, above the 7th fret on A string) note onwards, so I use the crossover to that, so I don't lose bottom end when I move up in fret for certain songs/bands/etc I play). The Dynamic is on my backburner, I find it very cool, but haven't find a place for it just yet. Also, I would love Line6 to apply these principles on a BLOCK, not only on path. By that I mean, I would love to have a parallel dry/wet option, rather and a sequential one. 50% dry/wet is not the same of 50% dry + 50% wet, and having these options on every block would allow you to have a 50% output of a combined 100% dry and 100% wet distorted sound... and I'm very sure this audio information is there, at the block level, you just can't treat them separately simply because the blocks are still "locked" to the old limitation of analogue pedals. It's time to unleash more of the "digital-only" unexplored features. Love your work. Cheers from Down Under!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! And yeah that would be cool for sure

[@LaimisMatas]

Pro here. Got this thing 24hrs ago, programmed it yesterday for today's show - split for electric bass on L and synth bass on R. The software UI is not the friendliest, but your tutorial delivered. I had some expected issues with levels, but that's for homework on another vid of yours I watched back on the tourbus, that's global settings. Cheers

[@briansmith1182]

Dude. You're the only one that goes over this stuff. The HX Stomp manual should just say "Go watch all of Scott's videos." And yes I have seen all your videos. Thank you so much for all your content. You're the best HX Stomp guy anywhere. Thank you thank you thank you!!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Haha thanks Brian!

[@kane6529]

Split paths is killer for Bass 🤩 can do some really amazing stuff! Really having several different instruments running simultaneously!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah it’s pretty awesome!!

[@briansisco5925]

Thank you once again Scott for the informative videos very helpful.

[@frusciantegeartone]

I just got a helix and man did this clear things up for me. 🙏 God bless you

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Great to hear!

[@EdgeOfFuzz]

This is awesome! Thanks! I add a Send L block prior to the amp block to get a pseudo wet/dry setup. I have the Send going to my dry amp and the L/Mono out to the board where it's receiving only the wet effects. It's pretty fun!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Thanks for sharing how you use this 🤘

[@martinchococo]

Great bro! thanks for such a useful material!!

[@jimdockry25]

Really good video, thanks 👍

[@JohnSpo]

I've never used split crossover or split dynamic because I never really gave much thought to what they do but I'm definitely going to try them out as an alternative to just the mixer. Thanks!

[@danielbell4007]

Holy cow! This is great!! Thanks!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

You bet! 🤘

[@johnmcminn9455]

I was just wondering about splitting the signal on the HX Thanks 👍

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Happy to help!

[@schenkerrothmoore]

this is awesome last night i put some of these in and it was awkward thanks for helping

[@Johnny-oy9fh]

Amazing

[@Musicdhara]

VERY USEFUL TIPS.. THANKS MAN 🤘🏻

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@musicgearnetwork]

Great stuff as always!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Appreciate that 🤘

[@love4thetruth]

You could also create a path 1b to merge into path 1a before the amp. Instead of those 2 paths going out, have them both with guitar input. Great way to blend 2 distortions and also by putting the acoustic sim on path 1b it blends great with 1a. Just plugging your guitar into the guitar input will go to both input paths. To me it sounds fuller and gets more atmosphere.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh nice! I didn’t think of that 🤘

[@love4thetruth]

@@ScottUhlMusic Discovered it by mistake. It put a whole new life to the sound.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice man, that’s awesome! The best mistakes 😊

[@SimonVNKA]

Awesome!!!!

[@RSchmitt1966]

Awesome video

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@rkphilpot]

This is great, thank you for explaining simply and concisely. If I run a HX stomp 4CM so I can use different pre amps into my valve power amp, can I use the split and merge function to keep the modulation FX separate to my pre amp, even though they're going into the FX loop of my valve amp? If that makes sense?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And I haven’t done this with 4CM, so I’m not sure. If you are running out of inputs/outputs then getting the full helix might be better for you. But I’m not as familiar with 4CM setups tbh

[@jonathanarleys]

I want to doing this live, have 2 different IR/Cab to LR out and doing some automations balanced LR OUT. Its works if you play with 2 guitarist at the sime time, like A7X... I love how the engineer separate Syn and Zacky to LR on the LBC Concert.

[@hao-theguitarist7430]

Awesome video! I'm looking for a HX stomp now, maybe a dumb question but can we put two reverb block in a preset?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! And not a dumb question at all, yes you can 👍

[@luisferrere4381]

thanks man, great explanation!!! it's possible to use this to make a stereo setup where path A uses amp sim and path B straight to an amp?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I believe so, yes 👍 I’ve never done that but I believe you can

[@justdoyourbass5013]

Great video! just seen it and really help me a lot! I still have a question anyway. I want to split path as dual mono, path A for clean sound and B for amp'ed sound. What outputs should I use, L and R output or L and Send output (if I not merging on mixer block). I still don't know the difference between R output and Send output for dual mono path. Thanks in advance!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Best idea is to try both and trust your ears on what sounds best. You’ll be able to tell the difference…. And if you want the clean channel to go out on a separate channel as the dirty channel, or just have it all go down one channel

[@superiorjamtracks2189]

Great job man! Thank you!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤘🤘

[@Luc-nd1pi]

thank you! If I'm setting up a wet/dry setup and want just clean boring guitar DI on the dry channel, do I still need to use a block and put it in bypass to make a split?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

If I understand correctly, then yes you would 👍

[@asterzaster1]

When you split the signal to the two paths going to separate outputs, can you program an external footswitch to flip between them? (so you only ever go out one at a time.)

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup you could do that 👍 assign fs4 or something to turn on and off the output of each channel. Footswitches can do multiple commands at once 👍

[@asterzaster1]

@@ScottUhlMusic thanks so much! 🙏

[@jasonrobling7536]

Great video, great channel. Question: I use the HX Stomp live and run it into a Fryette tube power amp then into a cab w/Celestion. But I would like to run a separate line to the house PA with speaker cab sim on. So I tried splitting the signal as you show in the video, with no cab sim on channel A panned hard left and this goes to my real speaker cab on stage, and cab sim on channel B panned hard right and this goes direct to PA. Everything works, but there is a significant volume drop on the side with no cab sim. If I turn the cab sim off on channel B, the volume on channel A jumps back up. Is this normal, and do I just need to adjust the level on the mix return block?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I honestly only use it direct so I’m not sure what the answer is for that since I’ve never done it that way

[@jasonrobling7536]

@@ScottUhlMusic gotcha. And thanks for the quick reply

[@JohnnyOskam]

4:33 Is it possible to send Path B's output to the headphone output only? I want to use 2 separate stereo outputs, Main L/R and the headphone L/R, but only have a cabinet on the headphone output. I need to use the effects loop too, which is why I can't use the Send L/R as the second stereo output.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I don’t believe you can route ONLY to headphone out.

[@Allthewrongkeys821]

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[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh interesting… just looked it up. I’ve never heard of that. Pretty cool!

[@Allthewrongkeys821]

@@ScottUhlMusic it’s intended for apple watch. But you can use it if you have just an iphone. By mapping midi to apple shortcuts directly in the midiwrist phone app. Then it can be used from any of your devices under your apple account. Using siri or just having the shortcut available from your home screen. And from the watch, atleast you can use cc values not just on/off buttons. Plus its easy to set it up for mackie control to do transport controls pause,play, rec etc into Logic and other daws. Spread the word to the homies.

[@ModelT666]

Hi thanks that video help a leot but there is something i can get ... I try to separate out A & B as the video but i have an issue ( or probably i'm a dumb) On the out l/mono i have the both signal from the split i mean A&B but on the right out i have only the B signal. Can you help me ?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@ModelT666 maybe this video will help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6HYZXuoasahqKcsi=IZ1rXRxDtZA3k3xe

[@ronsampson1705]

Can I use this system while everyone else is using wedge monitors ?!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yes, definitely. If you use a direct rig, you just ask the sound guy for more of your direct signal in your monitors. I did that for a while before I switched to in ears 👍

[@jeeeeev]

The only way I can create a patch with an output that could send an amp/cab to the FOH and an amp without IR to an Amp/Return is through the Send FX Loop/block?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Send/return would be very helpful, and likely the only way on the stomp, yeah

[@jeeeeev]

@@ScottUhlMusic idk if its working as intended but I have made a patch where I split the IR at the end of the patch and panned it left and right, right being the path that has the IR with it.

[@sliverhandsonbasses]

The explanation for split Y is not correct: the balance determines the amount of each INPUT going into each path, you can always adjust the stereo balance via the panning in the mixer, in any of the given split modes. The Split y is useful only if you're using both the inputs on your stomp, otherwise is just a dimmed version of split A/B. Also any mono block put before the split y convert the signal to mono, so nullifies the vantage of the split. When using both inputs the blocks before the split should be stereo, in order to preserve the proper processing. Hope this clarifies a bit.

[@anthonylee2382]

I've got mine split so that I can send a signal with cab sims to my IEM/FOH, and the same signal without sims to a pickle if I choose to use one.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Haha nice! 😅

[@AchillesWrath1]

Can you combine 2 different fx to one stomp pedal? Like im trying to combine a distortion with an overdrive so when i hit the pedal it either turns them both on or off together.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah, but that’s not split/merge… that’s just assigning two blocks to the same button 👍

[@AchillesWrath1]

@@ScottUhlMusic How do you do that? I thought it would have something to do with the merge button but i could figure out how to do it.

[@DonaHannah-x8k]

What computer programer cause do u need to book in .

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Computer program?

[@jesserobinson20]

I'm trying to figure out why, when I turn off the y split, it still sends the signal thru the y split to the second path. Any advice?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I don’t know if there is truly a way to turn “off” a split… I guess when I use a split it’s always on

[@sejuyz]

Guys, I own an HX Stomp and have downloaded the Bill Kelliher preset which is called REVV PURPLE. I look at the signal chain and there is a split Y so I suppose this was meant to create a stereo signal but I only get sound from the left speaker because the "mixer" is disabled and I'm not able to change that... what am I doing wrong?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

You can’t change the mixer setting? That’s odd. You probably have the pan set all the way left on the hx stomp. Or on your mixer, it’s set to pan or set to stereo and you need to set it to mono. There are a lot of things that it could be

[@borgassi]

HELP, I can not change the mixer to path B (send), its greyed and can not change it. any ideas?

[@borgassi]

solved, i had an fx loop block in the chain.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad you got it working 👍

[@R3dbudd]

Not sure if they fixed it yet, but anyone coming here to figure out about routing your cab sim to output B and no cab to FX return of your amp (thru path A) into cab... When you're not using your B output it still puts the cab sim or IR in you path A. I lost my mind figuring this out. Simple Fix; Plug somethin into your Right Output even if you're not using it. Like a headphone adapter or short patch cable.

[@musicafteroldage]

I have no idea how you managed to explain this in 5 mins - when I've watched 10, 15 mins videos and still finish kinda confused lol

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Haha, I tried to keep this specifically short. Best way to understand it is to apply it 🤘

[@vijay6404]

So with the split crossover , could I use path b to have a bit crusher on the high frequencies only? Basically what I what to do is to create the 'glowing reverb' that the Erica synths nightverb can do : kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5WuhYWHa7-LqZosi=OT29N17-_5zfYdcE

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I believe so, I haven’t really used that setting too often, but I believe that would work

[@DonaHannah-x8k]

Try to imagine if people dont no nothing about operating these units. Its just absolutely pathetic

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I have a beginners guide for the hx stomp here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIvPgXiCnMqDkNEsi=O019m_7SBboKkZAB

[@douglasmiranda4674]

Ok but why!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Ok but why not?

[@mikerichter907]

So i wonder if the pan between Out L/mono and Out r could be applied in Helix Effects also- did not recognize the merge so far 🫣