Understanding the psyche of Vladimir Putin | Alexander Stubb

[@mokusnyusziful]

Absolutely love Nordic clarity and pragmatism! Thank you for this interview!

[@Lasagnaisprettycool]

Alexander Stubb is such an interesting and informed man, I love broadening my understanding of the situation with his views.

[@chrischarlescook]

Great interview. It's too easy to call Putin mad. He's evil, but not crazy.

[@rogerwilco2]

He might be poorly informed though, which could have the same effect.

[@rob5197]

Evil ? - - Let's start with USA what good have they done in the last 100 years if not wars and sanctions? - - they also have given us the evils Facebook and twitter, worthless, addictive means responsible for brain damage - - resulting in a zombie world - - - with Mavdonald have contributed to massive health problems world wide - - -sherif of the world what more evil is there? - Putin will go one day unfortunately for us usa is there to stay until China start speaking

[@gorgon9786]

.. He shows up all checkmarks of a psychopath..

[@vlastik]

Briliant reference. Yes, "make (whatever) great again" is an idea favorite among all dictators and wannabe dictators.

[@rogerwilco2]

They think it seals their own position in the history books. It also allows them to rally people around nationalist sentiments, without actually having to improve people's futures.

[@luishernandezblonde]

Ronald Reagan was the man who proposed such a quote, but Reagan was still truly democratic. His quote was hijacked by dictators later on.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

Biden is a weak and senile fool

[@katewilmot4375]

Very informative and accurate. Also...love the pictures in the background 😂👍

[@ritarosenberg8774]

A great interview!👍

[@marileabond]

It is called "evil."

[@pluribus_unum]

Putin is terrified of NATO. The notion that Putin called NATO's bluff misunderstands how NATO's strength comes in no small part from its defining defensive posture. Putin wanted to join NATO, but wanted to be exempted from the requirement criteria and get special treatment in terms of timing. "Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”..."

[@sb_dunk]

I'm not anti-NATO and Putin is undoubtedly the aggressor here, I'm also not anywhere near an expert on geopolitics. Now that's out the way... Are you saying that NATO by definition is a purely defensive alliance? Don't things like airstrikes in Libya serve as a counterexample?

[@rikulappi9664]

Putin is not "terrified of NATO". He knows NATO is not an threat to Russia if it has any other option. NATO is a defence union which absolutely does not threaten Russia.

[@pluribus_unum]

@@sb_dunk - The defining defensive posture of NATO -- a military alliance -- is not an ethos of pacifism. I don't understand the argument that Libya disproves NATO is a defensive alliance, frankly. It's been a pet claim of Putin's for over a decade though. The UN Security Council resolution NATO was implementing was drafted to protect civilians. UN Security Council Resolution 1973 "...demand[ed] 'an immediate ceasefire' and authoriz[ed] the international community to establish a no-fly zone and to use all means necessary short of foreign occupation to protect civilians."

[@pluribus_unum]

@@rikulappi9664 - Regarding taking on NATO forces, the context of the comment made, Putin is terrified of NATO. Regarding the possible advantage democracy and democratic reforms in Ukraine would gain with NATO membership, I believe Putin is also very worried. Saying he's not terrified of NATO expansion is accurate, however. He simply wants Ukraine and Ukraine applying for NATO membership is the excuse.

[@sb_dunk]

@@pluribus_unum I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to use a "whataboutism", I only raise this point because of the point in your original comment. I agree that Putin uses this sort of argument to justify his atrocities, but that doesn't mean it should be immediately dismissed. My point is that you say that NATO is a defensive alliance, and I agree that this doesn't explicitly mean pacifist, but what it does mean is that NATO should only act to ensure that no harm comes to a member country. NATO decided to intervene in Libya, and member countries decided to carry out airstrikes. I don't see how that is a defensive action.

[@Starsky1413]

This is brilliant. My feeling putin is finished.

[@Noneatall246]

Great insight

[@kevvere8604]

why don’t people google narcissism, it will open a lot of eyes in their own world

[@gorgon9786]

Yeah,.. Or at more daily talk,. Psychopath..

[@SerendipityChild]

Check out his lectures. They're excellent

[@glennhearn401]

make it great again hes just destroyed it

[@bobpadok5331]

Russia showed good will in 1989...all eastern European countries claimed they wanna peace and freedom...Russia granted it to them...so what Russia got back?! Mad neighboroughs with American missiles against them!!!

[@paullewin8615]

You need to understand this. Finland is not an easy target military speaking. The terrain for the Russ would be a monumental task, and most likely an impossible logistic nightmare for the Russ . Do your research before you spill out words of panic and propoganda. In my opinion Putin will go for Moldova next. Then they will control the black sea.

[@rob5197]

Next to the moon - - listent to the spooking usa narrative of the last 70 years - - Russia is not the enemy, never been , that's what USA wants Europe to believe

[@TomSkinner]

@@rob5197 The NATO countries have seen clearly who they want to be aligned with. Now more than ever. They're not, as you seem to think, children that are easily fooled.

[@Dannyboy0202]

@@TomSkinner countries wanting to join nato is only because usa created putin as bogeyman so they are paranoid and afraid while they have to pay a minimum of 2% of their gross gpd to American arms companies who get tremendous financial rewards and use their financial power to heavily influence policy. There is no profit in peace for them so do the math.

[@luishernandezblonde]

Putin is aiming to take Moldova and the Baltics. He wants to divide NATO.

[@bishopofsahs]

🇫🇮👍

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

I don't understand why rail lines in Belarus and Russia haven't been bombarded. They are the material supply line from Russia, so why not?

[@TheRilluma]

334th like from me. lol alexander stubb nauraa

[@ropersix]

You can't be a great country without a great economy. And you don't get a great economy in the 21st century by just taking over parts of a former empire. So yes, Putin is irrational here by anyone's standards. Or at least delusional about Russia's current potential.

[@duhni4551]

Putin gave public speech couple of days ago where he talked about nationalizing Russian companies, including foreign ones. On top of that he said that every Russian who is against the war and the decisions of the government are enemies of the country and state. So he is not only poking a war against West but he is also poking a civil war. Last time that happened Soviet Union was born. He really is keeping his word, as he has mentioned many times that he will rebuild Soviet Union. This means that he is very logical and takes steps towards his goals, no matter the cost. Do remember that most of the Russians did live under Soviet rule so the transition to the old is quite easy to do, specially since time tends to make old horrors look like good things, until you have to relive them again and at that point it is too late.

[@jonknestrick5219]

@@duhni4551 nice of you to join KZbin 2 years ago. Pretty standard timeframe for a troll. PS Russia's GDP per capita is equivalent 3rd world countries. They're behind Khazakstan hahahaha!

[@duhni4551]

@@jonknestrick5219 Yeah, because i was trolling? I wrote how i view things based on what Putin has said and done, that is not trolling. So take your helmet out of your head, internet might be full of them, but you are not one to fend them off since you don't even seem to recognize them. Russia's GDP was less than Italy's even before this whole Ukraine war (2014), there are long list of reasons for it, mostly because of the decisions Putin made. So what? It is not new information, also it has nothing to do with what i wrote up there.

[@KimPhilby203]

He will escalate if his forces get bogged down ,

[@sunsim8197]

Watch Ukraine on fire by Oliver stone. It is a documentary movie. It is an eye opening movie. Also follow Patrick Lancaster, Gonzalo Lira and Graham Philip. These guys are on the ground and showing the truth.

[@Love.life.ashigzoya]

Putin is not for Russia great again but Russia safe from American neocolonial democracy for short American colony. Indian Military Veterans .

[@jonknestrick5219]

I know you're a troll but you don't even understand the basic concept of colonialism. You really should since you're in some call center in India.

[@benwilson6145]

Make Russia Great Again, sounds familiar!

[@rogerratcliffe4906]

Heard this all before

[@boonedockjourneyman7979]

“What are we doing wrong?” Well, maybe it’s a bad idea to allow tiny little minds to have the mic. Please, find someone with a brain to sit behind the microphone.

[@mirekslechta7161]

MAIN REASONS A G A I N S T joining NATO : 1) Joining NATO means to serve as a target for Russia´s or China´s strategic nuclear missilles all the time in future, certainly not just untill Ukraine war would end. 2) USA may back off in case of nuclear war in Europe to save hundreds of their cities- than NATO would loose nuclear war in Europe. 3) Even if USA would not back off, they appreciate every new NATO land(Finland) to absorb some of Russia´s nukes, which otherwice would surely explode above USA´cities... 4) Finland managed alone in past, could manage in future. It is still better option than to be incenereted instead of some USA´s cities...USA likes to be nuclear state, on the other hand they can not defend themself against Russia´s nuclear forces, let alone to defend Europe against it! Finland would better to rely on Finish defensive means and not to mess with counting on USA and kind of stand up against nuclear superpowers like Russia and China to "fight" them one day... ( To "fight" them means- to absorb some of nukes which otherwise would explode above USA´cities very harmlessly for Finland.... 5) Mr. Stubb knows little about wars unfortunately. Joining NATO is the way how to assure the tottal destructin to Finland during a nuclear war between USA and Russia, or even between European NATO states and Russia... 6) If anybody thinks that USA is a morally "OK" NATO leader- kind of a "good guy" , than please try to google: "USA drone strikes" . You will find crimes committed by USA on civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen an other third world countries... 7) In case of nuclear war the desruction would be gruesome, but also very limited geographically to states involved. Joining NATO is signing completely unnecesarry death sentence, since it is signing for being targeted by SATTAN II and more of similar machines instead of some USA´s big cities.

[@duhni4551]

Stubb knows about Putin as much as child knows about Taxes. Surely he is Finnish politician but he is also the generation that didn't have to deal with Russia the way the older politicians had to. He is positioned in between, somewhat appeasing Russia and somewhat trying to tie economical ties to West. He has no idea or concept of Russia as an aggressor, like many of our ministers have. He is very idealistic to the point of slightly naive and juppi enough to believe he is right. If you really want to understand Russia, you open up history book or if you want to learn the real politics and thinking between Finland and Russia, then you interview the politicians much older than him as their legacy still lives strong in our government and it is spread all over, depending whom from you ask, even if they are in same political party. In short: it is a mess. Only thing we can agree to as a nation is that Russia is a threat, that is about it.

[@penguinista]

You say he is wrong, but don't say how or what is right. He seems quite clear that Russia is a threat and an aggressor. He also demonstrated a lot of knowledge of history in this interview. Sounds like you are from a different political party than him, but don't have anything useful to add.

[@duhni4551]

@@penguinista I did, you not understanding it is up to you. And i did mention to you that the fact that Russia is a threat is the one thing we can all agree with, what to do with that threat is another question. I don't doubt his knowledge of history either, but the conclusions he makes out of it are naive. Actually i have voted his former political party for years.

[@grassoonisolaski]

He is a former prime minister of Finland. He has had the opportunity to be informed and trained by the intelligence agencies. His knowledge of Putin and Russia greatly surpassed whatever your knowledge might be and it is ridiculous assumption that you could "grade" his knowledge.

[@duhni4551]

@@grassoonisolaski LoL, that must be thickest BS i have ever heard =D Sure, there are some basic information that they get, but they all have their own views and approaches to Russia, you don't see similar Russian politics even inside same parties in Finland, much less between politicians at large. Why this is if they all get the same memos and training? Could it be that they all represent their own views and all the information is melted to their values and principles which forms their approach to Russia question? Also you would have to dig hard to find a Finn who doesn't know a lot about Russia and its politics, what comes to their general information about Russia and Putin, let me remind you that our current PM worked as cashier in store before his current job. So assume less, study more is my recommendation to you. Also Stubb didn't ever bother so much with foreign relations, even less with Russian relations, he was focused on Finland's EU politics. So Putin and Russia were only side markers for him. So you to assume he knows as much as you think is silly, it all depends on what they think is important. Not to mention that the grading is easy, you hear what they know and what they don't know. You see it in their actions too.

[@jahnne9434]

are u a pokemon ? maybe called stupido. Try us we gor thirst 4 blood. Suomi on mailman kovin naapuri

[@patriot52realfinn22]

That's why Finland will join NATO. Stubb knows nothing about Finnish history.

[@duhni4551]

I believe he knows Finnish history quite well but he was politician in the more positive era when Russia was more friendly and open towards West. The reason why Finland joins NATO is that we, the people, had silent consensus that as long as Russia doesn't cross their border we have no reason to join NATO. Well, now they did and now we join NATO.