Understanding What "Ignore Obstacles" means - X-wing Quick Tips

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[@thomasorest512]

It's like it's Schroedinger's obstacles.

[@kevinselzer1669]

Q: What does “ignores obstacles” mean? Do Han Solo [Pilot, Customized YT-1300] and Qi’ra [Crew] work together? What about Dash Rendar [YT-2400] and Outrider [Title]? A: When an effect says a ship “ignores obstacles,” it means that ship “ignores the effects of obstacles.” A ship that is “ignoring obstacles” does not apply the effects of overlapping or moving through them. When that ship performs an attack that is obstructed by an obstacle it ignores the effects of the obstruction, so the defender does not roll 1 additional defense die being obstructed by the obstacles the attacker is ignoring. However, the obstacles are still treated as being present for effects that check for their presence or absence. Additionally, an attack is obstructed by an obstacle even while the effects of the obstacle are ignored. This applies to cards such as Outrider, Han Solo [Pilot, Customized YT-1300], and Trick Shot (Talent). Additionally, other ships do not ignore the obstacle when resolving effects that interact with a ship that is ignoring obstacles. For instance, while a ship that is ignoring obstacles defends, if the attack is obstructed, it still rolls 1 additional defense die because the attacker is not ignoring the effects of obstacles.

[@deathsheir2035]

This video is old, so the rules may not have been as clear on this matter. So, for those, like myself, coming back and watching through these old quick tips videos, this is absolutely important; Losing the lock while already on an asteroid: Timing trigger is important. "While a ship executes a maneuver, if it moves through or overlaps an asteroid it rolls one attack die." Losing a lock, is not executing a maneuver, therefore, the damage caused by the asteroid does not occur, UNTIL the ship activates and performs its maneuver, if that maneuver causes it to move through or overlap the obstacle (stationary maneuver still counts, and therefore performing that maneuver, will still trigger the asteroid's damage). The only thing that occurs, the exact moment the lock is lost, is the ship loses the ability to make an attack that turn (assuming the ship already moved and what not, before being jammed).

[@xerokitsune]

It could be interesting to see the interaction between 4-LOM and Qi'ra, as long as there are range 0-1 ships the G-1A could park on a locked asteroid passing the stress off and gaining defense from the locked asteroid.

[@Timo7777.]

Hm, that first example confuses me even more. The rules say if you're on a asteroid, you can not perform attacks. Qi'ra says you ignore obstacles while attacking- but you still can't attack on an asteroid, so the "while"-phrase should not trigger. @Jam question: If boba moves after the reaper (final position or template overlaps it, he does not ignore it anymore)- any Qi'ra effect is gone.

[@judehandley]

FFG playing the Maul part - loves it!

[@Clappincardboard]

Awesome videos! Played a list that coulda used this help last night.

[@biwank64]

I really like the vid but I have to disagree on the trick shot point. The card says "if your shot is obstructed by an obstacle". So we agree the obstacle is here but it doesn't obstruct the shot since Qi'ra allows to ignore the "obstructing effect" of the obstacle. In that case Boba doesn't throw an extra attack dice and the tie doesn't throw an extra defense dice. In my opinion Qi'ra gives only the possibility to fly over the obstacles and shoot while standing on them. And this is already extremely strong.

[@ryrizzle319]

Could you please do a video on the calculate action, with the separatist available now it would be helpful t.y.

[@PyroTheInfernal]

Is an asteroid exploding from a seismic charge causing the damage and therefore you ignore it or does the bomb cause the damage? Apart from charges are there any differences between Qi'ra and R5-X3?

[@deathsheir2035]

The damage is not the result of the obstacle, but the result of the Seismic Charge. Therefore, Qi'ra's ability to ignore obstacles, does not apply.

[@SteveMartinable]

Hey can you do one about concord dawn and fearless and old t on a turret ship??

[@robherbst8875]

Hey guys, I want to start off by saying I love your videos. Second, do you think you could do a quick tips video on Thanisson and Phasma interaction. I want to fly First Order, but am looking for some decent combos. This looks good, but does it work. I'd like your thoughts on it. Thanks for considering it.

[@drewjoseph9876]

If rigged cargo is dropped on a ship is suffers effect right away, I say if Boba lock is jammed he rolls for damage.

[@drewjoseph9876]

I checked the ffg forum I was wrong rigged cargo is just placed under ship. But I was thinking it suffered effect because thats how it was ruled before.

[@drewjoseph9876]

It is silly that qira let's you benefit from trick shot, I know it works but it's silly.

[@BanksHanna]

I've started casually playing x-wing with family members this year, so I'm still a beginner and learning. Except for the FAQ from FFG, I haven't seen an official ruling about whether using Qi'ra allows you to initiate an attack when overlapping an asteroid. Since we ignored the effects of the asteroid when the ship moved onto it, and one effect is not being able to attack, then it seems like we should be able to attack just like the video shows. However, I can mainly only find posts where this point is being argued. This will surely come up in our family games, so I'd really like to know if this is still a point of contention or if it has been resolved. Additionally, do we now know what happens when the ship on an obstacle becomes jammed and loses the lock? If the ship maneuvers onto the obstacle when it was locked, then effects were already ignored and rolling dice for effects wouldn't apply retroactively. However, on the ship's next maneuver (or other movement) if it moves through or ends up overlapping an object that's not locked, then the effect will take place. Does this make sense, or is there a ruling or consensus for a different interpretation?

[@thrawnthelastcommand8011]

This seems correct to me. Have fun

[@PiratePake]

Hoping someone will see this. Why does it matter if either Boba or Han have an asteroid locked? What's the purpose of locking an object other than when you get jammed you lose the lock on the object rather than take a jam token?

[@PiratePake]

Oh wait, I see now. Qira has to have the object locked to ignore the obstacle's effects.

[@GoldSquadronPodcast]

😁

[@Roscinante2112]

Question, and apologize if you have covered this already...but how does all of this affect/effect Dash Rendar and the Outrider? Thanks in advance!

[@Iwantbatteries]

Outrider, Dash, and Stunned pilot?

[@arvidr]

there is no way you'd have to roll for a rock you're standing on. you only suffer the effects from overlapping obstacles while you move and overlap, not while standing still (unless you execute a speed 0 maneuver, but that's besides the point). you wouldn't be able to attack if you were standing on a rock that you were locking an suddenly lost the lock, though.

[@GoldSquadronPodcast]

The argument on the other side is the Rigged cargo shoot ruling in the rules forum which is why premier level Marshall's don't have a clear answer. Thanks for watching!

[@dotsphil]

The ruling in the rules forum simply says that when rigged cargo chute is placed underneath the ship, the ship overlaps it. For a complete picture, you then need to look at what overlapping does which is in rules reference, page 13. The only affect of an asteroid is "cannot perform attacks" (and there is nothing for debris). Every effect in the rules reference goes something like "if you performed a manoeuver, suffer X", "if you perform a move, suffer X" and finally, "while a ship is at range 0". It's just not instinctive to look up at the fine detail there.

[@sebastianzok6092]

I don't want to be rude but as long as there is no FAQ I disagree regarding Qi'ra enabling it's carrier to shoot when being range 0 to an asteroid. Rules explicitly say that you don't attack if being range 0 to an asteroid. I know that cards override rulebook but Qi'ra says "While you move and perform attacks, you ignore obstacles that you are locking." and explicitly the "while" shows me that you have to be able to attack to be able to trigger Qi'ra. It would be different if Qi'ra would be written "While you move and during engage, you ignore obstacles that you are locking." In addition it would make the Outer Rim Pioneer useless with Qi'ra.

[@GoldSquadronPodcast]

While I understand your break down of the syntax of the card. This is how Qi'ra works because not being able to shoot is part of the obstacle effects which you are ignoring. Thanks for watching!

[@sebastianzok6092]

@@GoldSquadronPodcast True ... but Qi'ra isn't ignoring the obstacle all the time ... only when moving or performing attacks and you don't get to the second point ... we have/had this discussion a lot here and agreed in the end when ruled RAW Qi'ra doesn't allow the attack. Hopefully there will be a clearing FAQ by FFG.

[@sebastianzok6092]

And in addition ... the FAQ article mentioned in the video explicitly says that ignoring obstacles means ignoring the effects of overlapping and moving through. The "no attack" effect is from being range 0 which is the third explicitly described obstacle effect trigger.

[@spbaird]

Sebastian Zok good luck dying on that hill. Go to any major tournament and you’ll be rules against. I’m not saying FFG shouldn’t make it clearer, because they still have a bunch of stuff to make clearer, but you’re not going to win that argument at a system open

[@sebastianzok6092]

@@spbaird I know I may not get that point. Therefore I will ask at any future tournament beforehand the head judge how they'll judge that. I just judged the Hyperspace in germany last weekend myself. The question didn't came up but I would have ruled it against the attack. If they want it to enable the attack why didn't they write "ignore obstacles you are locking" or "ignore during move and engage". Why did they explicitly differentiate there? And what is the outer rim pioneer for if Qi'ra already enables everything?

[@IsolatedEcho1]

Just ban the card so there isn't any confusion lol

[@GoldSquadronPodcast]

lol

[@PyroTheInfernal]

And also R5-X3?