Will LeBron James pass Michael Jordan as greatest NBA player ever? | UNDISPUTED

[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Will LeBron go down as the greatest NBA player ever?

[@snapbackBoi05]

no.

[@blaneries8925]

- - I don't think he can have the best legacy but better player by far is lbj

[@markquelsmith9326]

UNDISPUTED ON FS1 yes just watch

[@checkmateforever]

UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Never.

[@TheRdfrota]

If jordan didnt play baseball he would 8-peat

[@ArmandoKozomara]

the guy who joined a super tem TWICE better career than kobe? Im out of here!

[@tp-alpha3915]

Armando Kozomara twice?

[@tp-alpha3915]

Armando Kozomara anywhere lebron goes it'll be a super team gtfoh

[@MicrowavedRamen]

Yeah, except neither teams were even considered strong playoff teams before he went there. He also stayed on Cleveland for 7 years when his best player was... Mo Williams?

[@aliali8able]

Armando Kozomara well said

[@ArmandoKozomara]

Uncle Drew no they weren't but lebron didn't leave Cleveland to go to a first round exit team in Miami. he made a deal with Bosh and Wade 2 future hall of famers to team up in Miami, and they added great shooters and defenders too. so NO bron didn't go to some average team, he wanted to build a super team. and yea after Wade and Bosh got older and injured he left them to join a young super star who can drop 30 and 40 points any night in kyrie, brought Love aboard too to go along with more great shooters.

[@jackz4682]

Nick Wright such a LeBron drider its sickening

[@gloedup150]

Makaveli Pac 4 finals loses

[@austins.9856]

Jack Z it's facts so??

[@MrMuaythai84]

lebron choke against a 1 man mavs team so shut up

[@kingshottah4429]

Jack Z He is speaking facts wtf

[@thechurch5000]

Hahahahaha.

[@Fsunolesnation]

Lebron not better than Kobe. So how is Jordan even brought up?

[@ratkovac7]

Cause mainstream idiotic media who know nothing about basketball, only thing they care is money makers, which is why lebron is hyped so much, top 15 all time if he wins 1 more

[@TenguWarrior92]

Are you high?

[@ratkovac7]

Nope, realistic

[@marckus6777]

Lebron's 7 MVPs compared to Kobe's 3 says different.

[@JasonGreen2000]

Marckus Haywood 😂😂truuu

[@Kangman02]

Charles Barkley said it himself about 2 years ago that these analyst act like Kobe and Duncan didn't exist. 5-7 finals for Kobe, Duncan the 5-6 . they didn't jump ship to the next team finally win and all of the sudden gloat I'm the best there is. they keep saying he could have 3 peated. he didn't so argument dead, if he had kyrie and love he could have won, well I can say if warriors were 100 last year he would have lost, if Allen didn't hit that 3 he would have lost

[@LL-ke6ss]

Duncan had the greatest coach ever, and Kobe wasnt even MVP for 3 of his titles.

[@Kangman02]

Lado Limbe curry didn't get mvp for 2015 and was the best player on gs. what'd your point.

[@navin4984]

Wait. So you feel like jumping ship dismisses you from the goat debate? Funny.

[@tengtx]

yea but it was duncan that made pop one of the greatest coach ever not the other way around. i remember back in 1998-1999 the spurs were reading to hang pop by the neck but they gave pop another chance instead and that why they are who they are today as one of the greatest nba organization. so pop wanst even that great of a coach when he first started coaching the spurs.

[@VortexFromFire]

You forgot without Kerr and 2 other game winners Jordan would be 3-6 not 6-6 . It’s a team effort .. and without Kyrie and love getting hurt he’d won 2015

[@ravishingrookrude]

not a huge LBJ or Jordan fan. Nick is right - you can't bring up all of the negatives about LBJ, and then dismiss the negatives of MJ. neither are/were perfect in the playoffs -even though 6-0 finals record is exceptional, Jordan lost more playoffs than he won so comparisons are fair.

[@GJTrae]

Rook Rude lost more playoffs than he won ? If your bringing up the loses bring up the all time great team he lost to & look at who LeBron lost to 😂 plus Jordan didn't lose when he got another all star LeBron did in Miami badly

[@kevinflowers463]

if you want to factor in all years then essentially MJ was 6 for 15. Lebron is 3 for 13 so he falls behind on MJ as well. Keep in mind that MJ was in fact rusty in 95 when he came back (shot 41% that season and was 52% for his career when he retired in 93) Another thing is that Horace grant left which he was the X-factor in the Magic series for why the bulls lost and he said if MJ never retired he would have never left the bulls. Even with factoring that stuff in MJ is clearly better as of now. Lebron would need to have an absolutely amazing finish to his career to surpass.

[@gloedup150]

Trae 5 facts he lost with a healthy prime wade in 2011

[@GmoneyMozart]

And 15 is being nice about it, as 1year out when he lost to the Celtics in 86, almost 2 years out and he came back at the end of the season and lost to Orlando, and the 2 years in Washington which was a business venture and at no point was he looking to "win" championships.

[@lazarosmaroulis3969]

Rook Rude but you must put them into context and you can clearly see Jordan has way fewer mistakes if any

[@teezy9790]

Nope that convo ended when he decided to form not one but two superteams in the weak east for easy rings. Lebron will have to win win one more MVP, 4 more rings, at least 3 more fmvps and 9 more scoring titles and a DPOY for him to pass the goat.

[@Itallmakessense556]

ProfessorFinesser Jordan never beat a super team Lebron did !

[@RicoPointer]

The Cavs are not a superteam. Your criteria is off, John Havlicek is 8-0 Bill Russell has 11 titles so they are better than Mike by your logic.

[@teezy9790]

RJPointer nope when did I say rings were the only factor. It's a combination of rings, stats, accolades, and the eye test for me.

[@teezy9790]

Ben Osama warriors were not a superteam last yr. a superteam is team with more than one superstars or top 10 players. Steph was the only superstar on gsw last yr. klay is a star and draymond is good role player but I don't consider him a star. This yr if he beats them wit kd then yes he would've beaten a superteam but just cause the warriors won 73 games doesn't make them a "Superteam"

[@seanking9901]

ProfessorFinesser so it was only cool when Jordan had a super team in the same eastern conference that the Bulls made the playoffs going 30-52 and 3 sub .500 teams in the playoffs in 1991? In fact you could argue the only reasons the east is viewed as weak is because of LeBron if you take the Cavs out the eastern conference becomes much more entertaining. I believe Jordan is the GOAT as well but to say LeBron has to do all those things is ridiculous.

[@1327j]

MJ is the GOAT, Kobe is the second closest, LeBron? No way

[@nets4life377]

1327j You don't know basketball. Since when was Kobe better than magic and Kareem, bird and Shaq. Lebron already surpassed him.

[@DanteGoldz]

Nets 4life no. Stop hating

[@nets4life377]

TheSwagIsBack yes and stop following me

[@amanjotkhaira1985]

kobe isn't even in the top 10 discussion

[@Grimmj7w]

LeBron- More clutch, more versatile, better defender, better passer, more efficient, better post player, higher basketball IQ, bigger, stronger, faster, better rebounder, better record against Kobe, more achievements at 31 than Kobe, more Finals MVP awards than Kobe at 31, Has higher and more efficient stats than Kobe in the regular season, has higher and more efficient stats in the playoffs, has higher and more efficient stats in the finals, has higher and more efficient stats in game 7s, has higher and more efficient stats against Kobe. Your argument is invalid.

[@TenThumbsProductions]

Chris Carter "I could testify" man, brutal honesty bro! Good for you.

[@sadjetsfan1584]

Everyone always loves to talk rings- let's forget rings for a second...MJ still has more MVPs, more top 5 finishes in DPOY voting, better advanced stats (higher PER, WS/48, Ortg, Drtg), always stepped his game up in the playoffs. There just isn't an argument people. Lebron is obviously still one of the greatest ever (I have him at 3rd all time), but if you just put your biases aside and look at the resumes, where's the comparison? Lebron has played more games than MJ by the way, so this just means that MJ did more in the same amount of time.

[@ethd2286]

Recency bias. People see what Lebron is doing now and get caught up in the hysteria. Funny thing is 90% of the people on youtube making the argument that Lebron > Jordan never even watched Jordan at his peak.

[@gloedup150]

Eth D people living in the moment like always when Lebron loses another finals the hype and Jordan comparisons will go away I watched Charles Barkley say Kobe Bryant is arguably the best of all time in 2010 after Kobe buried the Suns the with multiple clutch shots nowadays Barkley is saying Stuff like that about Lebron and those same people that was on the Kobe hype train act like he's noot even top 5 also their was a time when everybody around the league talked about Kobe how they talked about Jordan half of the players called Kobe the best in the game now everybody acts like Lebron has been the best since 07 everybody just living in the moment

[@MrMakemusicmike]

Sad Jets Fan this is not a discussion

[@theprodigy7002]

+Eth D L

[@theprodigy7002]

+GLO • ENT L

[@YourTechGuide.]

these nba analysis never learn their lesson huh. STOP! comparing Leflop to the true KING Air Jordan himself pls, it's embarrassing for Jordan's image and greatness. Kobe on the other hand, you can compare even tho I don't like him he had that Jordan killer instinct when it comes to clutch time. Jordan & Kobe #DidntMoveToAnotherTeamToJoinTwoStarPlayersToWinRings Jordan & Kobe #BuiltNotBought

[@75erick75]

F McLaren Kobe was who you always wanted with the ball in the clutch, wrong man

[@75erick75]

Well watch the games, they tell a different story than the numbers. To call Kobe unclutch would be woefully ignorant

[@blackbolt3423]

F McLaren number are numbers .. the can be manipulated and used to prove any point you want . Lebron is not the same player as Jordan . The last time I check Jordan retired after his dad was killed ... not to go play baseball

[@SenseiMaverick]

F McLaren so are you saying lebron is more clutch than kobe? bc the numbers say so?

[@charlesaugust9219]

Before the achilles injury took a toll in his body (including the cracked tibia plateau in his left knee and torn rotator cuff), Kobe is still kinda untouchable and played at a very high level that few players can play at such an age. I believed before that achilles gave up, he's still the best player in the leauge coz of the high level of play he had shown on a nightly basis even though there's already a ton of mileage on him. Athough at his early 30's his athleticism is kinda diminished along his leaping ability, he compensated it with sound fundamentals and monstrous skills that even a prime lebron had a difficult time to guard.

[@EverydayElixer]

Is Lebron even better than Duncan or Kobe? This question is cringe worthy

[@hbksharpshooter]

Duncan yes, Kobe no.

[@LethalPlayers]

hbksharpshooter But Duncan is better than Kobe so how does that make sense?

[@gloedup150]

Elias El-zouki no

[@hbksharpshooter]

Bro Duncan was on the 04 Olympic team. At the peak of his powers. All I gotta say for that convo. LeBron wasn't even able to drink yet, so I don't hold that against him.

[@srt_jayp7136]

Elias El-zouki Duncan??? Lmaooo theyre not even comparable. Its not even close... lebron is top 5 top 5 top 5

[@markula_4040]

One thing people forget, when Jordan punched through and won his first title, nobody could stop him. His last 6 full seasons with the Bulls all resulted in championships. He has 2 three-peats and LeBron doesn't even have one.

[@hehateme1717]

Kobe was better than Lebron

[@chillvibes375]

He Hate me yes

[@kame99023]

Haha, no!

[@YourTechGuide.]

He Hate me what do you mean "was" Kobe "is" still better that that Lejoke!

[@Dr.Midnight]

maybe at ping pong, nothing else

[@rogerbesner1288]

at losing mvp finals

[@seveylee9865]

I thought Skip was crazy. Clearly there's a more delusional guy.

[@ericgarcia3640]

Wow Nick Wright's bias was so cringe worthy in this

[@rojeliocastro9733]

he literally brought up facts while the others brought opinions. wtf are you talking about?

[@ericgarcia3640]

Rojelio Castro TF are you talking about??? Broussard shot down every one of his arguments...Anyone can look at stats in a vacuum but Nick Wright never puts them into context and then the idiots in the comments say "he spoke nothing but facts"...He uses stats to his convenience which makes him lose all credibilty.

[@rojeliocastro9733]

eric garcia "he uses stats to his convenience which makes him lose all credibility" soo using facts makes you discreditable...??? Bro, just stop.

[@ericgarcia3640]

Rojelio Castro You obviously don't get what I meant. I meant that he uses certain stats to argue for Lebron but uses those same stats to argue agaisnt Lebron

[@rojeliocastro9733]

eric garcia he's using stats that help with his argument.. that's what you do in a debate. The same way the other guys use stats that help them with theirs (ex: finals records, 2 3 peats, all time scoring list, etc)

[@alexanderthegreat3]

Jordan was so good that he took time out and came back almost as good. In fact he was showing kids half his age a thing or two. I honestly do not think there will be another to surpass his Airness. Possibly harsh on James and Curry, but I think on the same court as them he would have upped his game again if need be. Just as he did with Bird, Magic and co. Jordan won a championship with the flu, he won after taking 2 years off. He drove and dunk and shot mid range jumpers and won against some of the best big men defenders in history, he consistently beat Hall of Famers like Magic, Bird, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, Ewing, Wilkins, Drexler.

[@AaronVillalobos]

How come nobody mentions the 2014 finals?? I dont understand how that always go under the rug....

[@ballerbaby5967]

he cramped which cost them 1 game then came back like a monster but it was no chance they needed to put pressure on first with a worse team and declining wade, rise of Kawhi and Bosh being irrelevant every Finals vs Spurs.

[@ericlegend95]

Wade was trash that finals, LeBron's number wasn't that bad tbh.

[@ericlegend95]

Numbers*

[@bryoncarter2204]

Eric Legend the 2014 finals is why he left. He saw Wade wasn't the same and saw a younger probably better Kyrie

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

The R. What's even worse is that LBJ got outplayed by a 12.8 ppg player too, this was way before Kawhi became the player he is today.

[@RayGunz101]

MJ GOAT.

[@chefcurry8712]

RayGunz 101 you probably didnt even watch a mj game.

[@jamesnta7623]

RayGunz 101 bandwa.....nvm

[@ballerbaby5967]

for now

[@liquidlight86]

Baller Baby Foever, he will go down as the most famouse basketball player ever and the face of the sport. Thats what happens when you GLOBALIZE something, the recognition is foever. Bruce Lee globalized martial arts, Elvis Presley globalized rocknroll and michael jordan globalized basketball.

[@mjthegoat6987]

Damn right

[@tomwitner874]

There is nothing that LeBron can possibly do to be considered the GOAT. It's already over. He blew it. He'll have to settle for top 5.

[@nets4life377]

Tom Witner Beating warriors twice can do it. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? No

[@tomwitner874]

Nets 4life nah bro it's too late. I wish it was possible because it would make the NBA that much more fun to watch though.

[@nate8604]

Anybody saying it's over for him when he's only 32, wants it to be over. Dude has made six straight title games, hasn't been done since Bill Russell's Celtics.

[@JasonGreen2000]

Tom Witner he's already in top 5

[@tonyboots2958]

Nate Yea, against no real competition in the East to impede his progress to the Finals. Been watching basketball for about 30 years now, and I've never seen a star have an easier road to the Finals than LeBron the past 6 years. It's ridiculous really.

[@jianye3317]

I'm sorry millenials, Lebron might be the best player you have watched but MJ back in the day, did things that destroyed other player's careers. Reggie miller, charles barkley, karl malone, john stockton, Shaq, all these players were destroyed by him, of course shaq eventually won but those other players did not win any because of MJ. Lebron has not destroyed any team's hope of a ring, warriors won one, spurs won one, dallas won one, come on.

[@jaredkens394]

CLUTCH SWAG I watch both LeBron and Jordan play and its a lot of things LeBron does statically better than Jordan. not saying LeBron is better but LeBron has the potential to become the greatest ever But right now Jordan greatest basketball player ever

[@joedagg4495]

And a lot more things Jordan did statistically better than Lebron

[@lexhobbs1050]

Umm Shaq beat Jordan in 1995 playoffs. They didn't even get to game 7

[@kam2times457]

Woahhhh u can name the others but warriors won one??? Only because kevin love and kyrie was out 😴....come on now that shouldnt even count...because if pippen and rodman was out and jordan lost everybody would say thats not fair... 🤷🏽‍♂️💯

[@alfonsosanchez766]

Im a millenial and I remember Jordan playing as a kid, even then I knew he was the greatest thing in sports world

[@pinchinat18]

Lebron has absolutely no chance, please stop. No way, no how.

[@shmoit.v6853]

I can swear this topic has been talk about 30 times already

[@kroqgar9662]

multiply that by 10 to the 4th power

[@shreepal7]

Still going on…

[@Abel-yo9mf]

It’s 2023 and they still doing this bro… too many lebron fanboys in the media, he will never be the goat

[@terenkowatsch7866]

This conversation is already over. Michael Jordan was league dominant in a harder era playing against better talent at a harder posituon to due so. LeBron is conference dominant in an easier era at an easier position to do so. LeBron is gonna be the best scorer, probably 2nd best player of all time, but he can't and never will pass Jordan.

[@terenkowatsch7866]

Jordan also did it in less years than LeBron did.

[@thomasleone18]

harder era lol Jordan faced Drexler at his position. Drexler probably not even top 50 all-time. Then Miller...lol Stop this nonsense. 90s were an expansion era, that's why the Bulls won 72 games. 80s were the best decade. 90s was the worse with Magic gojng out, Bird going out, Kareem going out...Jordan faced Ewing man....the best competition Jordan ever faced was Malone and Stockton, but are they better than Westbrook, Durant and Harden? Absolutely NO.

[@GGUOD444]

Teren Kowatsch no they didn't have better talent back in the day haha players are way more skilled now but they did play more physical then

[@terenkowatsch7866]

Thomas Leone Penny and Shaq Magic? Bad Boy Pistons? LeBron plays in a soft era and flops on calls that barely qualify as fouls, put him against Rodman Kemp or Barkley, he wouldn't do half of what Michael did.

[@jprzybyszz]

Teren Kowatsch if you look the records of all the teams lebron has played vs MJ then lebron has played way superior teams in the finials and ECF. that argument falls through if actually pay attention to pkayers and the records of each them they faced head to head

[@embreagem2284]

I'm not a huge fan of James but he is hands down the best player in the league for a long time now , but better then MJ lol we're do we draw the line , James will never ever be better then mj , he chokes way to much , MJ 6 rings 6 NBA playoff mvps , never took a game to 7 , best NBA record of all time actually winning the finals , James is good but not MJ good , all you young cats prob going to be a lil salty but sometimes the truth hurts

[@Donjasoni]

Well said.

[@andylonghoangle9115]

Xv-ANONYMOUS-vX You're right..MJ is the best...Lebron is not that level compare to MJ...The Dude afraid to lose that was why he went to Miami and joined force..Great players don't leave their teams...

[@blanktrigger8863]

To quote myself: "The idea that Jordan was "rusty" is bull. Pippen lead the team to the second round: If he was that great, adding him onto that team should have easily gotten them to the Finals, even if they would have lost due to his rust. Simole fact of the matter is that Jordan needed to be on the best team to even getnto the Finals in the first place. He's overhyped af due to the fact that he had mediocre Finals competition, as he never beat anybody when the competition was greater."

[@navin4984]

I never understood how people use "never went to a game 7 in the finals" line to "strengthen" mjs legacy. Have you seen his finals "competition"? Smh.

[@kcire-tv3wy]

What about the competition MJ had to endure to make it to the Finals? No one ever talks about that and compare to Lebrons cake-walk through the East every year. And for the cat above (Izzy Izzerton), AI took a less-than mediocre Sixers team to the Finals and at least won 1 game against the Shaq and Kobe-led LA Lakers. As I can recall, Lebron and Cleveland got smashed by San Antonio in a sweep but I guess that doesn't matter smh

[@cameramann_1]

I'm a Lebron fan and I have to say no. Lebron at the end of the day will be TOP 5 All-Time. But u won't be better than the Goat....

[@unit2083]

chris been going off

[@dredagr848]

LeBron will NEVER pass Jordan....STOP IT 🙌🏾

[@gloedup150]

DreDaGr8$ W

[@0619mike]

DreDaGr8$ L

[@hibachipapi]

DreDaGr8$ facts and stats are there for a reason. Your arguments about MJ being better means that Bill Russell is the real GOAT. 11>6.

[@theprodigy7002]

L

[@Panjabijs]

He already did

[@jahred0032]

dont get me wrong, im not a lebron hater, but this discussion about goat and comparisson with MJ should stop, he's top 5 or top 3, cant argue with that, with the gift he has, the size, speed and athleticism.. thats once in a lifetime player... but we should remember that Michael revolutionized basketball, the combination of basketball IQ, leadership, toughness, killer instinct in the clutch, hardwork, together with style, beauty, athleticism, shooting (he introduced fadeaways), elevation, hangtime, defensive skills etc... thats what MJ showed/ contributed and what we are now watching as basketball everywhere in the whole world..

[@conradotoledo5563]

lol!!!!! Where is that killer instinct when the better guys are still up... Remember he MJ was just bullied twice by Celtics lead by Larry Bird and got swept in the playoffs.. Dumped 4 consecutive nseasons by the bad boys lead by I. Thomas. MJ was in a Super team and with a better coach around him and probably with a greater teamates.. Look who's LBJ facing now a days😀😂

[@roneldeleon8704]

Super team? Are you a baby?

[@d14flare]

jordan notable wingman best season 6 rings/6 tries scottie pippen: 22ppg 8.5rb 5.0ast 2.9stl kobe notable wingman best season. 5rings/7 tries shaq: 29.7ppg 13.6rb pau gasol: 20.8ppg 9.8 rb lebron highest notable wingman best seasons 3 rings/ 7 tries dwade: 30.2ppg 7.5ast. 5.0rb chris bosh: 24ppg 10.8reb ray allen: 26.4ppg kyrie: 24.4ppg kevin love: 26.1ppg 12.5rb lebron had a superteam with 5 players who was once best player on their team and put up insane numbers and lost more than kobe and jordan and never got a 3peat.

[@94mac]

D21Exclusive that makes no sense just because wade averaged 30 or allen 26 in their best seasons doesn't mean they were the same player lol wade was breaking down and Allen was 37

[@d14flare]

Carl Clark wade was best player in 2011 finals and averaged most points on heat and he took a reduced role the later years to win and lebron got all credit for it.

[@gloedup150]

Carl Clark wasn't breaking down the first 2 years and he still gave great production while breaking down

[@d14flare]

Carl Clark wade and bosh, love, and kyrie averaged more points then pau gasol and scottie pippens best year with kobe and jordan those averages i posted on gasol and pippen came without jordan and kobe on team so they werent the same player either using your excuse.

[@kevinmarenco8914]

Wtf that makes no sense

[@tylers12345689]

This argument doesn't even matter because MJ is now at a status that he might as well be God himself, somehow he has become an even better player now having been retired for years. In most peoples eyes its impossible for Lebron to ever be the greatest. I don't know if anyone could ever pass MJ at this point honestly.

[@ericgarcia3640]

tylers 8 Because in many ways, he was a god. Lebron is super talented but Jordan had skill that is unmatched

[@Zero-wy2gx]

eric garcia He's the Goat but he's no God.

[@jimone732]

tylers 8 lol..real talk

[@ottokempa3515]

tylers 8 God is everything, God cannot be compared to anything, God knew about basketball before man kind even existed (or woman kind #genderEQUALITY God knows everything about basketball, GOD IS THE G.O.A.T and Lebron😊

[@xrpedro]

tylers 8 "We heard that... Hold our Drinks" -NBA Refs

[@jayballer8128]

Have any of the Jordan naysayers actually seen him play or even watched tape? Lol there's no denying that lebron is great, but better than Jordan? Come on now.

[@ericgarcia3640]

Jay Baller Most of them are born in the late 90s

[@delfra70]

True. When they hear us talk they think we're sounding salty or something but far from it. It's just that cats like us are older and have been around to see MJ, Magic, Kareem, etc. We've seen both eras and these youngster haven't, but I get it because they can only judge of what they have seen. But if you don't study up on the history of sports and what came before you we're born you're destined to be ignorant to it and never have an understanding of just great previous players we're. It's not like the game and players became great 10-15 years ago because that's when you started watching it, doesn't work that way.

[@Zerk1375]

Tod Wilkinson your iq so low

[@ludfoe1573]

Jay Baller in some ways no but in others yes lebron is better do the research

[@justjeetsidhu]

Failing to realize the change in leauge rules in defense to make the game more appealing and higher scoring. Allowing travels and rewarding flops.Being in the Eastern conference finals with the only super team that he put together himself. Jumping ship to a prepped team to get to the finals with two other all Stars. The list continues. I think getting 💯 on the finals speaks numbers. LeBron would be an average bench warmer in the league that Michael played in. It was a man's game in the 80-late 90s . Saying he's better than Kobe is just blasphemous. Kobe plays in the West. Where the big boys play. To get to the finals in the West is a tooth and nail affair. Getting to the eastern conference is a pillow fight in comparison. And to go at it at that with a super team that is well rested while the west wear each other out. Come on now. Watch Mike. Do your hw . " stop it, get some help"

[@andiakpan8502]

only thing stopping lebron from being the best is his mentality, as far as im concerned lebron will be the best on paper, but because he lacks the mentality of a kobe bryant or a micheal jordan he will always fall short of being called the G.O.A.T

[@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22]

Why Jordan's better then Lebron Jordan has DOUBLE Lebrons rings Jordan has him beat there 6 finals MVP , Jordan has him beat again More League MVPs then Lebron Jordan has him beat again More all stars then Lebron Jordan wins again 9 time defensive first team , Lebron has 5 Jordan wins again Jordan had defensive player of the year, Lebron had never Dunk champ twice, Lebron lied saying he would do it, never did Jordan had TEN scoring titles , Lebron has 1 Jordan wins again . Jordan never left to chase rings Jordan had 1 all star and wins 3 rings straight Lebron had 2 an lost 2 more finals Gets 2 more all stars, still loses another finals Lebron is crying needing more help in the weakest conference EVER Jordan adds rodman, wins another 3 straight ... So you're wrong. Lebron isn't even close to Jordan,

[@JasonGreen2000]

Chris Carter dunk champs means nothing and at the same age they are pretty even

[@tonyboots2958]

Jason Green At the same age, MJ was still more accomplished despite playing 4 less seasons....go by seasons played, it's not even close.

[@atown8433]

Chris Carter Well said everything is on point to me it's laughable to bring lebron's name up with Jordan how many finals did he lost exactly case closed

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Jason Green The age argument is flawed bc LBJ played more seasons than MJ. Try their first 13 seasons and you'll see the difference.

[@tjsmithers3893]

Chris Carter Lebron's career is still going so you're comparing stats from a retired man to one whose still playing lol.... not a very compelling argument

[@blakelewis5204]

This dude will forever be on Lebron's jock. He got destroyed in this argument by one of the biggest Lebron fan, Chris Broussard.

[@xrpedro]

Blake Lewis Chris is The ONLY LeBron fan I enjoy listening to. He foreal does (his best) to approach the game objectively.

[@nate8604]

Y'all act like LeBron has a legion of fans...

[@CrysisOwnsHalo]

Nate He DEFINITELY has a HUGE legion of haters though.

[@nate8604]

+CrysisOwnsHalo I don't even listen to folks when they try to state otherwise. You're absolutely right.

[@DonkeyKong5479]

Bronsexuals always trying to victimize their queen. Yeah he has many haters but he has just as many dickriders

[@ronburgandy4144]

kobe is better than lebron, no debate

[@playstationRockss]

no

[@marckus6777]

Lebron's 7 MVP's compared to Kobe's 3 says different.

[@GolmujR6]

Marckus Haywood Kobes 5 rings and 11 straight all star apperences says different

[@admiralaokiji7889]

Kobe being carried by Shaq for 3 rings says diffrent

[@Troy13x]

kobe not playing while lebron still playing says different. see how stupid that sounds? thats how stupid your "arguement' sounds

[@dwayneturner9395]

How was Jordan playing "weak" teams? That Portland team, (much like Clyde's College team!) is one of the best NOT to win a championship!!! And Stockton, Malone and Hornacek, Eaton and co.?? Always tough, Always. And KJ was underrated and we know how good of a year Sir Charles had that year in Phoenix. Seattle wasn't scrubs?? I don't get it.

[@charlesc.b2435]

This convo is Stupid...Lebron is awesome, and he will be a Top 5 player when he's all done...But I think 5 is as high as he can get .....Lebron doesn't have the killer instinct of the guys that are above him as the greatest guys like MJ, Magic, Kareem, Kobe those men were killers and would do whatever it takes to win..Lebron is a stat stuffer sure, but he IMO doesn't have that mental strength that those guys did and it shows in the way he plays....not to mention that his game skill wise isn't on those guys levels either, Lebron was blessed with BRUT abilities but his skill set in comparison doesn't quite measure up...and for the record I am not a Lebron hater..just a basketball fan.

[@2kman12]

charles crimes Not disagreeing with you but he is cerebral in his own way he has come up big in clutch games scoring 25 points in the 4th against Ben Wallace's pistons to go to the finals, clutch jumper over hedo turkgalo against the magic, scoring 14 points to bring them back against the spurs until Ray Allen hit the game winner. He may not want to take the final shot all the time but he sets he teammates up to give them the shine he has clutch defense block on igudola last finals. He is just different

[@charlesc.b2435]

I agree and I am not trying to marginalize Lebron I just cant see how anyone can put him over those guys that I named, he is not better than any of those guys..lebron is one if not the best do it all player ever, but he lacks areas in his game both skill wise and mentally that puts him behind those guys to me.

[@suabdeeg]

There is no definitive way to "win". There's no way to measure killer instinct. Just because player A plays this way doesn't mean that if player B plays a different way then it's wrong. Jacking up shots doesn't mean you have a killer instinct. Basketball is a team sport. You win and lose as a team. I'd rather take a smart play over a heroic play any day of the week. Lebron is a stat stuffer? doesn't have mental strength? Shows how objective you are. Based on those comments alone, I can tell you don't understand the game nor watch it.

[@charlesc.b2435]

Are you mad?

[@suabdeeg]

charles crimes I should be mad because? Am I missing something? lol

[@barneypurplegangstersavage9090]

LeBron already THE GOAT #JordanSexualsTriggered

[@JMG316]

L

[@jn2811]

Barney Like Kids W

[@gloedup150]

Rings Jordan ( 6 ) Lebron ( 3 ) MVPS Jordan ( 5 ) Lebron ( 4 ) Finals MVP Jordan ( 6 ) Lebron ( 3 ) All Defensive 1st teams Jordan ( 9 ) Lebron ( 5 ) DPOY Awards Jordan ( 1 ) Lebron ( 0 ) Scoring Titles Jordan ( 10 ) Lebron ( 1 ) Steals leader Jordan ( 3 ) Lebron ( 0 ) Career PPG Average Jordan ( 30.1 ) Lebron ( 27.1 ) Career Steals average Jordan ( 2.3 ) Lebron ( 1.7 ) Best Season PPG Jordan ( 37.1 ) Lebron ( 31.4 ) Best rebounding season Jordan ( 8.0 ) Lebron ( 8.0 ) Best assist season Jordan ( 8.0 ) Lebron ( 8.6 ) Best steals season Jordan ( 3.2 ) Lebron ( 2.2 ) Best blocking season Jordan ( 1.6 ) Lebron ( 1.1 ) Best Playoffs PPG wise Jordan ( 33.4 ) Lebron ( 28.0 ) Total playoff points ( Jordan played less playoff games by the way than lebron. Jordan ( 5,987 ) Lebron ( 5,572 ) Career FG% Jordan ( 48% ) Lebron ( 47% ) Career 3 point % Jordan ( 33% ) Lebron ( 32% ) Career FreeThrow% Jordan ( 82 % ) Lebron ( 74% ) Best playoff series PPG wise Jordan ( 43.7 ) Lebron ( 35.3 ) how

[@GoatGawd911]

Barney Like Kids L

[@BlackAmethyst-XAI]

some stats are wrong buddy

[@ajaxforever5473]

This Nick Wright guy is really really good

[@walterwilliams6717]

AjaxForever said no one ever

[@connorsmith6517]

Walter Williams pretty sure the guy above your just said it....

[@ericgarcia3640]

AjaxForever No he isn't lmao...Only morons agree with him

[@ajaxforever5473]

YES. I said it. And i will say it again. This Nick Wright guy is really really good.

[@ericgarcia3640]

AjaxForever How? He is so ridiculously bias that he has no credibility

[@Kevinschart]

on paper bron will be the better player. but by the eye test, it will always be michael

[@Nemo-un5rr]

Kevin Schart Precisely...

[@dustinjefferson6550]

On paper Bron rebounds and assists the ball better than Jordan. He does NOTHING ELSE better than Jordan. Stop

[@roderickl9539]

Lebron looks good on paper because he's a stat sheet stuffer! The intangibles. The things that cannot be measured is what separates MJ from the rest including Lebron! Just '87-'88 season for MJ is something that Lebron never had, I don't believe. Nick will always back Lebron. But, it doesn't mean he's right. Peace!

[@cheathamcustom336]

On paper he not better than Kareem stat-wise Championship wise pointwise defensively MVP's winning since High School lost one game high school two games in college the whole time he was there also Player of the Year while he was in high school three times College three times 6 Ring 6 MVPs.

[@lebronjames9608]

This subject is talked about way too much, but bronny will eventually be the GOAT...

[@chillvibes375]

Slim Jesus how sway

[@gloedup150]

Slim Jesus not with 4 finals loses lmao

[@GoatGawd911]

Slim Jesus L for calling another man "bronny"

[@gloedup150]

GanG Stoping Bronsexuals since 2016 June 19th GanG 😂

[@abrahammilhem8653]

so basically you're criticizing lebron for going more times to the finals than jordan did

[@boomelyh3llik]

Here's the end of the discussion: people who know ball are unable to lie to themselves... by the eye test, it is obvious that MJ is a better player. Its style, charisma, artistry, force of will. Forget numbers. Those who know... Know. If MJ went up against lebron, he would win because MJ... Its DNA. MJ is just better at Basketball. Bill Rusell has more rings. This is enough to shoot numbers down. I'm just gonna sit back and count the likes (from those who KNOW) and the lies from those who are young.

[@mariomolina6095]

Seamus Mac. well said.

[@thsu8]

Seamus Mac Very well said. Also, because Kobe is so similar to MJ, it's obvious that Kobe is better than LeBron too. LeBron is one of the 7 best players ever. But something is missing inside him to be with the true goats. Kyrie has more of that something than LeBron. It is what it is. Appreciate LeBron for his amazing talent. If you're an MJ or Kobe fan, don't hate. Appreciate. LeBron is 32. We'll never see another player like LeBron. We were lucky to see the 2nd coming of Jordan with Kobe. We got to watch Jordan for 30 years.

[@lookcloselyatmypic1326]

Seamus Mac exactly

[@Kangman02]

thsu8 well said

[@lilprincekilla]

What you're basically saying it "if you don't think Michael Jordan is the best then you're not a true fan of basketball" which is bs. Bill Russell is the greatest player of all time. Wanna do the eye test, 11 rings and 5 mvps. That's more than accountable for comparing to Jordan. Enough said.

[@MrMakemusicmike]

Nothing beats perfection. MJ 6-0 NBA Finals

[@CrysisOwnsHalo]

MrMakemusicmike Perfection is WAYYYY overrated.

[@osskeet]

CrysisOwnsHalo that makes no sense

[@CrysisOwnsHalo]

osskeet It's so simple. Being "perfect" means you weren't ever challenged or pushed enough or had to face tough adversity. It is much more meaningful to come back from failure and endure/overcome adversity than it is to be at the top and never come down. Do people forget the lessons that Rocky III taught us?

[@osskeet]

CrysisOwnsHalo or being perfect means you were just so good for everyone else that you beat them. Don't forget it's not like Michael Jordan waltzed into the finals, he had a really tough time getting there and fought his way in. but once he got there he never look back. Keep winning when it mattered most.

[@MrMakemusicmike]

osskeet 72 wins is a waltz into the finals.

[@nadtaylor4357]

#1 reason Jordan is G.O.A.T. and always will be. Hand check rules.if you can't put a hand or body on Jordan he's going to average 50 a game.paint was protected back in the day!

[@smfalconsnipers124]

FLU GAME> CRAMP GAME . Nuff said

[@ericgarcia3640]

Factoryyx Shrug Game > Cramp Game

[@tonyschimmoeller4439]

Well when you have the flu you get dehydrated and when dehydrated you get cramps so I wouldn't say totally different. lol

[@aintcomplete1822]

LBJ better than Kobe ? Yeah I'm off this video...

[@rileyschaefer4113]

Dell International bro he's been better than him for awhile lmaoo

[@shooguy8792]

Dell International me too bruh😂

[@johnjohnson6980]

Dell International Kobe better and it's not even close smh

[@TheMikee1108]

ppl like you say kobe > lbj because of "clutchness" and "5 rings" when lbj has been better than Kobe as a player even statistically in EVERY way since like 06 lol smh

[@mantouism]

lebron is better than kobe every in almost every metric lol

[@Mrforever34]

My only problem is that people say Jordan is 6-6 in the finals that's why he's the best but ignore everything else that's crucial to determining Greatness

[@Ihearttaylorswif]

I can't believe they skip Kobe . Unreal.

[@joebay9736]

Nick wright is a type of person that will argue that earth is flat and will not stop.thats how delusional he is.he probably thinks he looks like Brad Pitt 😂

[@navin4984]

As long as his name isn't Joe Bay

[@NBAKING149]

Crazy u say this and nick actually speaking facts

[@tonyy_destined]

did they forget lebron has had an easy path to the finals

[@navin4984]

Did you forget Lebron has had tough finals competition on a level that MJ has never faced?

[@NwoFresh]

@@navin4984 that jazz team beat the rockets, swept the lakers and the beat Spurs Chill bruh

[@paulalbert6970]

Lebron has a tough path in his career. He faced teams with high winning records, multiple all-stars, multiple HoFs and future HoF. You know his records are shows of how tough his competition. Jordan has a tough playoffs but an easy Finals. Lebron has a tough playoffs and tough Finals.

[@dpita3456]

Let's all remember that Lebron plays in EASTERN CONFERENCE. So of course he's able to make it to the finals that easily. Just saying.

[@DeeNice323]

Yung Daz exactly no one brings that up

[@starcenter323]

so did Jordan, and the east has always been weaker. Lets face facts though, in this era teams are more stacked than in Jordan's. By this i mean, the top teams in each conference are way better, but that does come with the lower playoff teams not being as good. Its just stupid to compare eras because none are ever the same. My generation will remember LeBron as the greatest, the previous will say Jordan, my grandpas said Oscar and Wilt and the next will say someone else. Its just how things are.

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

starcenter323 The East wasn't bad in MJ's era as it is now though. It was balanced back then for West and East, since MJ's second retirement it's been West>>>East clearly. Not to mention MJ faced way more 50+ win teams in the playoffs while LBJ has faced majority of 49 or less win teams. LBJ has it so much easier than MJ, there's a reason why he reached the finals 6x in a row bc the East is dead awful, that and he has a couple legit go to guys with him to make it easier for him.

[@CoolingKit9]

eazyduzit5150 what team in the East did Jordan have problems with?

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

jordan vandross Um Celtics, Pistons, Knicks, Magic, Cavs, Heat etc. That's not my argument I'm responding to though, its about this notion that LBJ fans thinking the East was weaker back then or the same as now when it wasn't. Teams with 50+ wins MJ's era East 51 West 49 LBJ's era East 33 West 70 Not to mention MJ faced better competition.. 21 of 31 East opp teams had 50+ wins His record was 14-7 against them 10-0 against 49 or less win teams LBJ has faced 11 of 30 East opp teams with 50+ wins His record is 7-4 against them 19-0 against 49 or less win teams The dude has had an easier path to the finals since he got there, he's been feasting on 40+ win teams the most. Was 1-5 against the East who had 50+ wins before Wade and Bosh too but was 7-0 against 49 or less win teams.

[@SeecretWeapon]

5:50 Scottie Pippen got to the Bulls in 1988 by year in 1988 he averaged 30min- 10pts/5eb/2ast & shot 46% Bulls went 4-6 3 of those wins Pippen scored 8pts, 4pts and ZERO Jordan :36, 50 & FIFTY FIVE explain to me what Scottie did to help Jordan win a game? in 1989 he averaged 17/8/4/1/1 the Bulls went 9-8 in those 9 games he cracked 20pts ONCE! and single digits TWICE! but lets just line up the contributions in wins in the playoffs for this season to Pippen: 13.4 pts/ 8.1reb/ 4.5ast/ 1.2 stls/ 0.8blk/ 47.8 % shooting & Game Score : 11.9 Jordan: 39.7pts/ 8.8 reb/ 8.1ast/ 2.6stls/ 1 blk/ shooting 55.4% and a Game score: 33.6 no i can sit here and say YES before they drafted Pippen Jordan never won a playoff game sure that's factual but everyone glosses over the fact that Pippen was mediocre when he came in then became alright then solid then good then great then fell off

[@jersey4life31]

Look at this: 6 finals appearances - 6 championships - 6 finals MVP's.....Regular season mvp's, defensive player of the year and a bunch of all star starts. If JORDAN's dad didn't die, he would have won 8 in a row. If Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3 at the end of game 6, lebron would only have 2.

[@ZTen7h]

Forget about Jordan winning 8 titles if his dad didn't die. Jordan should have won 7 more rings because he made it to the playoffs,right?

[@pramesh.gurung]

People dnt realize MJ was a phenomenon too ... worldwide .. even in third country like mine during his era everywhere there was no.23 jersey ... people who didn't watch BB knew who MJ was ...his greatness passed beyond BB 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💪🏼

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Kobe three peated and won back to back to back. where is lebron 3peat?

[@jaredkens394]

Justin Williams Shaq O'Neal 3 Finals carried Kobe to 3 Rings. Lol

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Pooh Nation don't come at me with that dumb argument shaq needed kobe and vice versa shaq even came out and said it. would mike win without pippen or Bron without dwade or kyrie 🤔😐 shut up

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Pooh Nation kobe got carried by no one. And he won 2 without shaq shaq won 1 without kobe stop it. that proves my point

[@thomashester2]

Justin Williams but he still benefitted from the most dominant player of all time in Shaq and arguably the greatest coach Phil Jackson LeBron is better and has accomplished more with less

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Thomas Hester shaq benefited from kobe too and Bron benefited from wade and bosh two all stars Gn 😂😂

[@sasarasasarasa]

There will never be another MJ23. The only and true GOAT.

[@thetruth9723x]

its over already hes the goat

[@zakariahaji5695]

Adam Barett goats don't choke against jason terry

[@thetruth9723x]

kobe did that year, in fact they got swept, move along

[@Mayhem321]

+Zakaria Haji lmao

[@SenseiMaverick]

Adam Barett those lakers were not the same. nice try.

[@marwannakouzi5274]

Adam Barett The GOAT of this generation*

[@grantcobb8345]

All that needs to be said is LBJ was on the team that has the highest negative point differential in the Finals. Best player ever doesn't play on the worst team ever in the biggest series.

[@jahleelx9270]

Bruh look at the team he had to face. Warriors with kd. Are u an idiot?

[@NotebookLives]

Are you kidding me right now? You're blaming LeBron for the fact that his team was playing terribly? You can't be someone who knows Basketball that well. Michael Jordan, who Larry Bird called "God in Sneakers", got knocked out of the playoffs for 7 straight years before his first title. Yes, the guy who was called the best player on the planet. Was it his fault as well that his team couldn't get out of the playoffs? I'll wait...because if you say "no, it was his team's fault", I know that I can't have an objective debate with you.

[@sergestrada2]

I like lebron, but he will never pass Jordan. I don't think he will win many more titles either. Maybe 1 maybe

[@getwisdomhere1035]

Totally agree. Actually, I think if he doesn't win this year, he might never win another title. GS is the younger, deeper, more talented team. They are good enough to dominate for the next 2-3 years. By the time, Lebron will be in his 17th season and won't be able to carry a team anymore.

[@smokebone6294]

sergestrada2 Jordan not the goat

[@RG-qq9eu]

sergestrada2 nah LeBron will do what he does best, recruit/join better players to head to the finals. he can still win 3 more.

[@MistahUnknown]

Oh. Look! A few more people for LBJ to prove wrong

[@adamsamuel8593]

+MistahUnknown The only how Lebron winning three more rings is if he joins Golden State.

[@stevem5787]

This ended with the "Decision"

[@cerealbawxtv]

People act like Jordan just left to play baseball just because. It was partially because the league was getting "un-challenging" to him and partially because he wanted to honor his father (playing baseball is something they discussed before the passing of his father). LeBron does however still have a decent chance of being the goat. I just wanted to put that out there.

[@navin4984]

416hezi Unchallenging? You mean weak?

[@mynor3manoso]

Nick Wright looks like middle eastern Tom Green

[@genghiskhan802]

Philip Rölz lmao

[@foofighter7683]

They should take into consideration the fact that when MJ played ,the NBA used to actually call travels

[@kcire-tv3wy]

Exactly and Jordan got called for more than a few but people swear Jordan got all the calls his way.

[@artisticskillz01]

Defense too

[@skettinbutter3635]

Lol defense. Couldn't even play zone defense or double in the paint what a joke lebron woulda tore that era a new one.

[@hoopsencyclopedia]

Even non-basketball fans came out to watch MJ. They have not returned since he left. MJ was singular - perfection really. This moment reminds me of the Kobe era when he was scoring 35ppg and everyone was comparing him to MJ. It was a good show. Eventually, it will be the totality of one's career that will answer the question best but MJ also has the most unique skill set because of his giant hands, hang time and improvisational scoring skills and those that saw him play remember that perfected game and artistry. And he had a knack of doing the greatest things on the biggest stage. Until someone else comes along with as spectacular skill set that brings out the non-serious fan, the next MJ hasn't entered the league yet. Lebron probably will be in the 2nd greatest argument with Kareem/Magic/Bill/Wilt in the end. He will challenge longevity totals but those totals alone aren't what MJ purely owned nor are what put him at the top. MJ is the only player with no weaknesses in his individual AND team dominance in ALL of sport. He is the only player who has been the best player on the biggest stage every time with the best stats. He is the only player ever who is as skilled as he his athletic, and is as mentally tough as he is physically tough. And he had moves no one else could duplicate. MJ is the only player that has every facet covered - advanced stats included. That is why he will always be the easiest argument for #1.

[@cyber6sapien]

Jordan just up and decided to take a year off in his prime to go and play another sport. It's not like his father was murdered or anything.

[@tonyboots2958]

cyber6sapien Yea exactly. Not only that, but according to Nick, MJ took a year and a half of "rest". I guess playing another sport besides basketball, doesn't count?!

[@rudy1999]

''When he wins it this year'' LOL. Too bad he lost twice in a row xD

[@aravbhatt2875]

it was kinda expected

[@TheMissiIe]

@@aravbhatt2875 doesn't matter if it was expected, he lost 2 times in a row

[@chikushodiz91]

😂😂😂😂😂lebron will never pass the goat because he isn't better than Kobe, magic or bird

[@jaredkens394]

Orest Pellumb NBA Top 10 Players 1.Jordan 2.Kareem 3.Chamberlain 4.Magic 5.LeBron 6.Duncan 7.Shaq 8.Kobe 9.Bird 10.B Russell or Oscar

[@Bigslay28]

Orest Pellumb lebron is better than bird

[@xrpedro]

Orest Pellumb the LeBron goggles are thick in homeboy's ranking ☝🏽

[@johndottaviano5113]

Orest Pellumb he's a million times better than Kobe. Kobe is the most overrated player in sports history.

[@MattnCam0408]

John Dottaviano wow ur dumb

[@tashrif46]

Nick Wright newsflash. In the 1980s the Celtics of 86 was one of the best teams ever and Larry Bird even said that MJ was God in disguise. And then the Bad Boys Pistons and then the Knicks of the 90s, Jordan took all.of them on. And took a team who had no business being in the playoffs, actually be competitive in that. And lets not forget game winning shots against Cleveland in 88 and Utah in 98

[@nirdla0822]

no way no how!!!... 6 Championships, 6 Finals MVP, 5 Season MVP.... MJ GOAT!!!

[@jasonchen2115]

LeBron ring #1 lock out season ring #2 Ray Allen gave him a second chance ring #3 Donkey got suspended and a few got injured: Iggy back spasm, Bogut out, Curry knee issue from early playoffs. The three rings LeBron has are all questionable. 2 of LeBrons losses in the finals are unexcusable. Another argument is that if LeBron doesn't leave the Cavs he would have 0 rings right now.

[@NotebookLives]

Nick Wright is refreshing. He's actually objective and factual about Jordan, and about LeBron as well. Jordan's my second favorite behind LeBron, but a lot of MJ's fans need to get disillusioned and dehypnotized when it comes to him. They ignore the 7 straight years of playoff-exits. They brush over the '95 playoff-exit. They push aside him not getting to the Finals in his last two years. The facts just need to be stated, that's all.

[@jadenkelly5969]

Did Jordan ever choke like LeBron did?

[@ZacBarnesMusic]

Nick is whack on this one. Bron is #2. Can’t pass Jordan . The Dallas series alone disqualified him. Can’t be the greatest ever and have a meltdown performance. Period.

[@wickedwood04]

I think its to late, Lebron can not catch Jordan in his greatness.

[@valour8510]

BRON>KOBE

[@MJ_Kobe-he2cl]

Valour shut up kid

[@jaredkens394]

MJ23 _Kobe24 Your Stupid because LeBron Is a better overall basketball player then Kobe

[@valour8510]

MJ23 _Kobe24 dude you are obviously a kobe and jordan fan by your name. I'm not gonna listen to a biased answer. I'm not even a lebron fan and I know that he is better than kobe.

[@MattnCam0408]

Valour ur high

[@johndottaviano5113]

MattnCam0408 no you're high

[@TenThumbsProductions]

A year later, the Cavs look old and the Warriors CRUSHED those Cavs. Jordan GOAT and Lebron greatest stat stuff, 3rd greatest player after Magic when all said and done.

[@escapableentropy9576]

For the people who are even comparing eras try this: Take Jordans best team ever, perhaps the 72-10 team and let them play Lebrons best team ever, probably the team with Wade, Bosh in their primes. Let them play a 7 game series and analyze how it plays out. Actually, let them play 2 7 game series with RULES from 1998 and one series from 2008 rules. I guarantee the Bulls MOP THE FLOOR in both series. In the bruiser series Rodman or Pippen would literally beat Lebron into a pulp and Bosh would be neutralized by the other. Then you'd have Jordan and probably Wade squaring off against each other. In another scenario maybe you'd have Lebron guarding Jordan. If any of those series went 7 games which I doubt MJ would EMBARRASS the defenses of either Lebron team. Lebron would have an incredibly difficult time handling tough physical defense whereas Jordan would be absolutely fine with it as he has played against the Bad Boy Pistons and Celtics who were the toughest teams ever. In either scenario I don't see either of Lebron's teams beating that Bulls team. Here's why. Those Bulls teams didn't have a dominant center or point guard which was UNHEARD of in the bruiser era when it came to building a championship winning team. So Lebrons teams would have NO ADVANTAGE in terms of hitting 3's or using post-play to win. Pippen or Rodman could D-up Lebron Wade or Bosh with multiple players without doubling. Jordan's post-up and fadeaway would be enough to handle Lebrons teams whereas Bosh could not be relied upon in the post or from 3 to beat the Bulls. I see the Bulls winning either series in 5 or 6 and none of the games going to 7. If anyone disagrees with that assessment tell me HOW ANY OF LEBRONS teams could dispatch that Jordan team. This is a good thought experiment because it throws away tainted stats and leaves matchups and competitiveness as the sole arbiter.

[@Makonator007]

I love when Nick starts about Jordan without Pipen...I wonder how many finals would LBJ see on that east at Jordans era...

[@NBAKING149]

Wat team u puttin him on? .. put him wit Isaiah thomas n the piston bulls aint gettin pass just goin by wat Isaiah thomas was alredy doin to his bulls 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Makonator007]

@@NBAKING149 put him in bulls, with that flopping he wouldn't see ring...

[@trevonricks5975]

@@NBAKING149 last I checked the Cavs were still a team back then so put him thier, wouldn't be surprised if he tried joining Isaiah

[@DefSquadFan]

How can you say the Bulls didn't beat great teams? Those teams had hall of famers, Dream Teamers and Top 20 All time players.

[@cmoneytheman]

Well they didnt compared

[@paulalbert6970]

Jordan beat Magic, Drexler, Shaq, Penny, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Starks, Payton, Kemp Lebron beats Duncan, Leonard, Curry, Durant, Thompson, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Green, George, Derozan, Lowry, Rose, Parker, Ginobili

[@cmoneytheman]

@@paulalbert6970 why u comparing names nothing to do with skill

[@randyholliday5626]

Jordan 14 time All Star in 15 seasons 9 time all defensive first team NBA defensive player of the year 10 time scoring champ 5 time NBA MVP 6 time finals MVP 6 rings 6-0 in finals never averaged below 29 ppg in any postseason MJ GOAT Period

[@tkkirkland3971]

So Leflop has played 14 years 3-4 in the finals Jordan played 13 with bulls and took 2years off in his prime and 6-0 6MVPs and we are comparing these two people? So I guess Lebron is just the GOAT already without getting 3 more rings and 3 more MVPs.

[@WolvesFansince]

presley gee Lebron started at 18. Jordan started at 21.

[@WolvesFansince]

presley gee and plus nobody is saying Lebron is better than Jordan YET.. he still has some ways to go

[@sparrowgao]

but how come michael not play more seasons like lebron? Can I assume michael would not be that good had he played constant 14 seasons?

[@GmoneyMozart]

yup. They will dilute Jordan as much as they can. Especially the next generation of sports media. As more younger guys grow up and get into the media they will tear Jordan down because they can't stand the fact that he is the GOAT.

[@louburgunde9719]

Gmoney Mozart I like how you expressed that point, but I do hope the somehow they can't tear Jordan down.

[@Bokaljoe]

Better than kobe? Kobe won back to back without any superstars beating a celtic team big 3..lebron cries for help lol

[@manuelpopic3200]

Carlo Roxas you are just stupid lebron is in top 5 best players ever kobe is not even in top 10

[@VortexFromFire]

A washed up big 3 Boston team..

[@cnrmoose]

then Kobe got swept by the Mavs that Lebron got TWO wins off of in the Finals, yet everyone says LBJ was bad in those Finals. LMAO!!! GOH

[@JayDaVillian1991]

Kobe beat him Iso 1v1 and in championships Jordan is better than him.

[@ballerbaby5967]

Allen Iverson beat MJ iso 1v1. lmfao its a team award and team game

[@musicsdarkangel]

Does anyone know what number jersey Lebron wears? Just curious.

[@TheFlash-je3bl]

For me Bill Russell was the GOAT of his era Kareem was the GOAT OF HIS ERA Magic was the GOAT of the 80's Jordan was the GOAT of the 90's Kobe was the GOAT of the early 2000s-2007 LeBron has been the GOAT 2008-Now

[@jaredkens394]

The Flash 2024 Wilt Chamberlain was a better All Around Basketball player the Bill Russell. Bill Russell just had a better team

[@nets4life377]

The Flash 2024 2000s? Shaq was easily better from 2000 to 2004

[@samuelrowe1454]

Early 2000's Garnett, Duncan and Shaq were better. I would say Kobe was the GOAT of the mid 2000's

[@tonyboots2958]

The Flash 2024 You obviously don't know what the term "GOAT" stands for.

[@bonitaboggan8432]

Kobe was the NBA Champion in 2009 and 2010.

[@JUANO510]

LeBron is not even better than Kobe but ppl are mentioning Jordan?! Lmaooooo

[@anthonycrager8384]

Didnt they get smoked in the finals this year? Hmmm, when did MJ do that? At full strength too????

[@chrisakokoh9118]

They need nick wright against skip bayless I would pay to see that

[@jahred0032]

he lost his chance eversince the ''decision''and to team up with bosh and wade... jordan never did that, he destroyed other great players, he did not team up with them, he made his team mates better and he did not complain or demanded for his team managers to go and trade for barkley,malone, stockton, robinson, ewing, etc.... he destroyed other great players!!... unlike lebron, kd or even kobe... he made players like longley, paxson, wennington, kukoc, etc. NBA champions.. whats the point of these conversation!!!???

[@jahred0032]

Johnny Tsunami .. no kyrie irving beat the golden state warriors.. dont fool.yourself...

[@samg2599]

Johnny Tsunami Best team in NBA history?? Where's that ring then?

[@cxx5510]

jahred0032 You think Kyrie is more responsible for the win than the guy that led both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks? Don't fool yourself.

[@jahred0032]

Kyrie still showed up in the final games and hit the most important and critical shot.. go watch it again.. dont fool yourself ...and dont be repeating my lines..

[@jahred0032]

Donut102 lebron needed great players like wade, bosh, ray allen, love and kyrie to have a championship and a good career.. but still not even close to MJ's legacy... what about now?, at a younger age, lebron is already losing a step..

[@MichaelLim24]

MJ = GOAT. End of story

[@jackjack9331]

LEBITCH isn't better than KOBE, let alone MJ.!!

[@reallife935]

jack jack LeBron is better than Kobe ever thought of being.

[@reallife935]

jack jack Jordan the greatest basketball player ever duh

[@reallife935]

jack jack Lmao LeBron James better then Kobe ever thought of being

[@jackjack9331]

LEBITCH ain't even better than tony parker, or Tim Duncan, or Dennis rodman, let alone better than KOBE.

[@imyanigmw]

jack jack Lol ian gonna go that far with it, but he def aint better than Kobe

[@kdogg257]

I mean I love LeBron but jesus Nick Wright makes the case for LeBron worse.

[@jdpena26]

"Everyone knows I'm a LeBron Fan" Yup, no argument there

[@konnan442]

Jordan > Kobe > James. James has to try and surpass Kobe before we can start talking about James starting to come close to Jordan.

[@Kingrussell529]

he talkin bout if love them never got hurt they would be on a 3 peat...STOP they wouldn't of won the last chip if bogut didn't get hurt if curry wasn't hurt if iggy back wasn't messed up if green didn't get suspended....he always talking bout LeBron would of won if love them wasn't hurt but dosnt want to say gs would of won if they was healthy last year

[@jaycos4905]

To any objective observer of basketball it's obvious that people amazed at what lebron can do because if his size and above average skills, but there can never be a comparison to MJ's drive, passion, his ability to make his teammates better and his clear desire to carry a team and be the guy in the clutch to take the shot. We can never look at the number for the shear longevity of Lebrons career but the multiple skill level of MJ is unmatchable by anyone. The closest would have been Kobe but he still came short. Come on, if you were to start any team 95% of the people would pick MJ, not only for his ability and skill, but his knack for getting other "average" player to play above average. We need to drop this argument already because it's NO ARGUMENT!

[@marcobaker1475]

lbj didn't go to college that's why his numbers well surpass other players

[@dwayneturner9395]

no, but he's EASILY the 2nd best player I've ever witnessed and the BEST all-around player I've ever seen , Period. We like basketball in Kentuckiana (Louisville). So take it for what it's worth. #2ndBestEasily #NoneOfYousawRussellorWilt

[@MichaelLim88]

nobody will ever pass Jordan as the GOAT.

[@musiclyrics4861]

except LeBron

[@aravbhatt2875]

Lebron

[@larriors9124]

Lebron

[@aaronahchee7484]

MJ is my GOAT!! If the Cavs played the 95-96 Bulls. Bulls win in 6. And if I had to chose between the 2 who makes the last play, MJ all day. Go back and watch the last 4 plays of the 98 finals, it was MJ who pulled out that win on his own.